Hello from Australia! On the subject of certificates, I thought I should let you know that I have had excellent service through www.genfindit.com. I have obtained many birth, death and marriage transcripts through them. They only charge A$18 per certificate and that is probably about half the cost of obtaining it through the Record Offices. All you have to do is give them the year that relates to which ever transcript you want, the names of the parties involved, and if you can, the reference numbers from the films that are at the local LDS centres. They will send back a wonderful photostat of the transcript within a couple of weeks. This saves a lot of hassle and gives you all the information you need. I recommend them highly! Beth Glenfield

James E. KERR posed some interesting questions in his message. Certainly all of the Marriage Certificates he was after SHOULD be obtainable as they are on or after the crucial year of 1864 when Civil Registration commenced in Ireland. What his message raises in my mind are the 'pros and cons' of researching at either the GRO in Belfast or Dublin. Having spent a lot of time at both places I trust you will bear with me as I impart some knowledge of the practicalities. I would say to anyone coming over to Ireland that they should do their homework so far as it's possible before arrival. When time is tight preparation is invaluable. As all of the Marriages James was after would be on the Indeces for Irish Marriages which are on microfilm at the LDS, the important data is there - Year, Quarter (after 1877) place of Registration, Volume and Page number. The same applies for Birth and Death certificates. However, Belfast GRO cannot supply you with Marriage Certificates. The registers are still held at the local Registration offices throughout N. Ireland. Belfast GRO is certainly the most 'user-friendly' of the two establishments. Dublin has a small search room which soon gets crowded. Where Dublin really scores is that you can get a photocopy of the B., M. or D. register entry there and then. This is a great help when you are unsure that the details you have from the respective Index are for the particular family you're searching. In Belfast, although you would get the opportunity to copy down the B. or D. entry from the Registers, a copy of this entry would cost you £4 STERLING. The photocopy in Dublin costs I£1.50 PUNTS. Let me finish by dealing with the questions James put:- 1. Will they let me search their archives as an alien? - YES, the only requirement is to pay the search fee. Belfast like a pre-booking. For Dublin, you just turn up. 2. Can I expect to get certificates on the same day? - NO for Belfast and Dublin if you want Full Certified Certificates UNLESS they are Priority. You pay £10 for this in Belfast. Don't know what the corresponding charge is in Dublin. But YES for the photocopies in Dublin. 3. Should I try to get Data from the local church where they were probably married? - Not necessary in the case of 1864 and onwards. 4.Is their any logic in applying by mail in advance of applying in person? - If there is no hurry YES. Both places will accept postal applications. There are usually long waits! 5. Are their files readily accessed or do you have to wait for a clerk to find the record volumes that you need?- In Belfast you have personal access to the Index books. Don't forget that although the Birth's are all-Ireland up to 1922, after that it's only for N. Ireland. Death and Marriage Index books in Belfast are only post 1922. With an Assisted Search (£15 per hour) the Clerk brings you the Registers you are interested in. In Dublin you only get to look at the Index books, which are all-Ireland. If you want a copy of an entry you fill out a form, pay your money to the Clerk who then gets you a photocopy of the entry. Hope all that is clear and I haven't bored you all to death! If there's any clarification needed on any of these points please get in touch. Yours aye Robert C Davison Hon. Secretary Clan Davidson Association (UK) Visit us at <http://www.phdavison.com/clandavidson

Thank you to all of you who have helped me with information and advice with my REID line. It is very well received and hopefully I will get the opportunity to check out ALL the resources you have all suggested. It is a truly wonderful world we live in when people so unselfishly help others, like l'il ol' me. I appreciate it so much! launie reid graffeo

Maybe these will help. As I'd mentioned to Launie privately, this info is from another list I'm on: Here is a book which may be useful: EUROPEAN PASSENGER STEAMSHIP ARRIVALS, MORTON ALLAN DIRECTORY OF, FOR THE YEARS 1890 TO 1930 AT THE PORT OF NEW YORK, AND FOR THE YEARS 1904 TO 1926 AT THE PORTS OF NEW YORK, PHILADELPHIA, BOSTON AND BALTIMORE. This work is a very helpful aid in the use of the indexes of immigrant passenger lists in the National Archives, for they are arranged in the chronological order of the ships' arrival dates, and thereunder by the names of the vessels or the passenger lines, and only then by passengers' surnames. This directory provides a ready means of ascertaining information that will be helpful, for it is arranged by year and steamship company, and thereunder by port of entry, the vessel name, its arrival date and port of embarkation. 268 pp. (1931), repr. Balto., 1993. [GP80] $20.00. I could no longer find an internet site for Genealogy Unlimited - US books (found only their Canadian books site). Perhaps the Canadian site could tell one how to access the US books site for Genealogy Unlimited Books. NEW WORLD IMMIGRANTS. A CONSOLIDATION OF SHIP PASSENGER LISTS AND ASSOCIATED DATA FROM PERIOODICAL LITERATURE. Michael Tepper. Ship passenger lists are the delight of the genealogist for they provide the first record of an ancestor on American soil. Numerous passenger lists have appeared in articles in a wide variety of periodicals. This work is a collection of ninety-seven articles from some fifty perioodicals, mostly totally unknown to the researcher. This collection gives access to material previously difficult to locate for no library in the country can clain to have every issue of every periodical in this compilation. Periodicals drawn on range from the obscure Pennsylvania Dutchman to the scholarly American Genealogist, from bi-weeklies to annuals, and, within the general time frame 1618-1878, the articles identify upwards of 27,500 emigrants, mainly English, Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss, French, Norwegian, and Russian-German. Note: this work does not include articles from The Pennsylvania Magazine of History and Biography, The new England Historical and Genealogical Register or The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record. 2 vols. 568, 702 pp. incexed. Balto, 1988. [GP5755] $25.00. Look for Tepper's Ships of Our Ancestors. About the steamships of the shipping lines: North German Lloyd, White Star, Cunard, Guion, Red Star, Inman, and Hamburg-American. Photos of 900 steamships. Also by Michael Tepper, American Passenger Arrival Records. A Guide to the Records of Immigrants Arriving at American Ports by Sail and Steam. The Genealogy Unlimited - US Books site, last year listed nine pages on books about immigration. Today I could not get to their site. Perhaps someone who knows how to wend through the net better than I can find it and post it. I think that these books could be of tremendous help. If I had a digital camera, I would take pictures of the Scandinavian passengers and crew lists which I found on my copy of the NARA film T715, roll 2663. Many, many Swedish and Norwegian passengers are listed on this film for the dates July 15-July 31, 1919. If I have the time, I will go to the public library, copy the film, and scan it for the list. But, I don't know when I will have the time. If your ancestor came during that time frame, through New York City harbor, this is your film number. ------------ Here are a couple more addresses: Independence Seaport Museum Penn's Landing 211 S. Columbus Blvd. At Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19106 215-413-8639 www.libertynet.org/~seaport/ New Bedford Whaling Museum 18 Johnny Cake Hill New Bedford, MA 02740 508-997-0046 508-997-0018 fax www.newbedford.com/whalingmuseum.html National Archives and Records Administration Constitution Ave., & 7th St. NW Washington, D.C. 20408 www.nara.gov Inland Seas Maritime Museum P. O. Box 435 Vermillion, OH 44089 216-967-3467 216-967-1519 www.inlandseas.org Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kinston 55 Ontario Street Kingston Ontario Canada K7L 2Y2 613-542-2261 613-542-0043 www.novatech.on.ca/history/musem.html Mystic Seaport Museum G.W. Blunt White Library P O Box 6000 Mystic, CT 06355 860-572-0711 www.mystic.org John D. Rockerfeller, Jr. Library Colonial Williamsburg Foundation 313 First Street Williamsburg, VA 23185 757-220-7410 757-220-7711 fax Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum P O Box 636 St. Michaels, MD 21663 410-745-2916 410-745-6088 www.cbmm.org -------------- Listers, 1. Photos of ships www.oceanliner.com/pcphqz.htm 2. Scandinavian Emigrant ships www.vii.com/~nelsonb/ship_desc.htm 3. Immigrants to Canada - Montreal Ocean steamships http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/!marj/genealogy/mosc1870.html 4. Nordic Link http://www.nordiclink.org/history.htm 5. http://lcweb.loc.gov/rr/genealogy/bib_quid/danish.htm#gen -------- Listers, Found this site on The Wilson Line, a feeder service between Norway and other Scandinavian ports and Hull, England. http://digidesk.jbi.hioslo.no/~emigrant/feeder.htm ------ Hope this helps... Cindy in Virginia Seeking info on PRIESTLEY, MACAULAY & OTHER SPELLINGS, SHILLADY AND LINTON...COUNTY DOWN.

I believe this is the site that Cindy was looking for: http://www.itsnet.com/~genun/index.html Cheers, Marg

Dear Bob, I am descended from Sir Robert Bruce DE POLLOCK (born 1580) whose descendents were in Donegal, NIR for several generations before some emigrated to Maryland, USA. My line is as follows: Sir Robert Bruce De Pollock(1580-?) Robert B. Pollock (1606-1660)married Annabel Stewart, Donegal Robert B. Pollock(1640NIR-1704 Somerset Co.,MD) married Magdelen Tasker John Polk(1660 NIR-1708 Somerset Co., MD) married Jane Polk(? her parents) William Polk(1695 -1726/7 MD) married Priscilla Roberts(See line below) Ann Polk ( born cir. 1713-1725 MD) married William Chenoweth William I.S. Chenoweth married M. Catherine Rinker John Chenoweth married Suzanne Seal Catherine Chenoweth married George S. Collom William N. Collom married Louisa Miller Bessie L. Collom was my grandmother. Robert Bruce Pollock and Magdelena Tasker (See line above) Anne Polk( 1669 NIR- 1699 MD) married Francis Roberts Priscilla Roberts married William Polk(See his line above.) Happy to share whatever other info may be of interest. Nicole May [email protected]

I'm sorry to be posting this question to so many of my lists, but I need serious help here. You all know I've been at a VERY TALL brick wall with these people and I can't stand not finding them on ANY ship lists. I know that they showed up in the Philadelphia area census in 1857. This means that James and Agnes HAD TO SAIL BETWEEN 1853 AND 1857, right??? Every site I go to that has ship lists and dates skip from 1850 to 1860, then I get frustrated. Are there ANY ships that ANYONE knows about that sailed between 1853 and 1857 and where I might find the lists??? Ok, I think I feel a little better now. :D launie reid graffeo (getting ready to deny my reid part, just kidding.)

I just found a really informative and extensively detailed link for research for emigrants to the US, etc. Check it out! Hope it helps someone. http://www.primenet.com/~langford/gen_page.htm launie

Would anyone who has knowledge of persons or groups who a have particular interest in POLLOCK family history in Ulster please tell me of them. Thanks Bob

Oh dear! There is a big problem here. The Townlands Index of 1851 lists 6 Templemoyle Townlands. 3 in Co. Londonderry, 2 in Co. Galway and 1 in Co. Donegal. Hopefully Dick will be able to obtain some more information that will help narrow it down to one of those locations. Yours aye Robert C Davison Hon. Secretary Clan Davidson Association (UK) Visit us at <http://www.phdavison.com/clandavidson

I have recently discovered that British Telecom has the telephone directory for the whole of the UK on-line at http://www.bt.com/phonenetuk/ This may be of use to all researchers and for those of us who loose contact with relatives by losing a telephone numbers. By the way REMEMBER that some telephone numbers in the UK are changing. More details at http://www.bt.com/ J Alan MacArthur [email protected]

Hi Nancy....what a neat place. Thanks. BUT......I typed in Ballywalter for the town and Down for the County..(that's all I have).....And I didn't get anything. Am I supposed to have more information? xxxxxo Louise AIKEN King La Jolla, CA In a message dated 6/11/99 17:01:50, [email protected] writes: << I did a quick search of the IreAtlas Townland database at http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/ire-srch By typing in Templemoyle in the Townland field, it returned the following: TOWNLAND ACRES COUNTY BARONY CIVIL PARISH POOR LAW UNION Templemoyle 151 Galway Tiaquin Monivea Loughrea Templemoyle 82 Galway Tiaquin Moylough Mountbellew Templemoyle 1645 Londonderry Keenaght Banagher NewTnLimavady Templemoyle 498 Londonderry Keenaght Bovevagh NewTnLimavady Templemoyle 144 Londonderry Tirkeeran Faughanvale Londonderrye Although this site is reputedly still under construction, I have found it a good source for finding those tiny places. Nancy Barnett >>

I did a quick search of the IreAtlas Townland database at http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/ire-srch By typing in Templemoyle in the Townland field, it returned the following: TOWNLAND ACRES COUNTY BARONY CIVIL PARISH POOR LAW UNION Templemoyle 151 Galway Tiaquin Monivea Loughrea Templemoyle 82 Galway Tiaquin Moylough Mountbellew Templemoyle 1645 Londonderry Keenaght Banagher NewTnLimavady Templemoyle 498 Londonderry Keenaght Bovevagh NewTnLimavady Templemoyle 144 Londonderry Tirkeeran Faughanvale Londonderrye Although this site is reputedly still under construction, I have found it a good source for finding those tiny places. Nancy Barnett (Researching ROSBOROUGH, WHITESIDE and LYNDSAY/LINDSAY in NIR)

Dear Howard, Since you have been a working genealogist in Ireland for some time I am calling on you for some advice on obtaining marriage certificates on my trip to Ireland in September 1999.We are planning to land in Belfast on September 10,1999 for a ten day stay.While there I would like to get marriage certificates for the five marriages listed below.Since the marriages are prior to 1922 I assume that I will have to go to Dublin for them. Quetions: 1. Will they let me search their archives as an alien? 2. Can I expect to get certificates on the same day? 3. Should I try to get Data from the local church where they were probably married? 4.Is their any logic in applying by mail in advance of applying in person? 5. Are their files readily accessed or do you have to wait for a clerk to find the record volumes that you need? These are just a few of the questions that I can think of .I would appreciate any advice that you might have in this pursuit.Below are the list of marriages that I am researching. Grandparents Marriage Note 1. Boyd,Rachel, Ballyoughagh, A. Married c.1892 Probably Ballyoughagh, District of Croagh, Antrim B. Born c.1873 Married Mcvicker,Daniel A. Married c. 1892 Probably Ballyouglagh,District of Croagh, Antrim B. Born c. !873 2. Brown,Jane, Ballymulderg, District of Magherafelt A. Married c. 1893 Probably Ballymulderg, District of Magherafelt, Londonderry B. Born c, 1873 Married: McQuillan, Edward A. Married c. 1893 Probably Ballymulderg,District of Magherafelt,Londonderry B. Born c. 1873 3. Hanna,Jean, Knockaholet A. Married c. 1864 probably Knockaholet, District of Castlequarter, Antrim B. Born c. 1844 Married:Kerr, William A. Married c. 1864 Probably Knockaholet, District of Castlequarter, Antrim B. Born c. 1844 4. Kerr, Christopher A. Married c. 1886 Probably Knockaholet, District of Castlequarter, Antrim B. Born c. 1865 Married: Mcvicker, Ann A. Married c. 1886 Probably Knockaholet , District of Castlequarter, Antrim B. Born c. 1865 5. Mcarthur, Jane A. Married c. 1893 Probably Magheraboy, District of Croagh,Antrim B, Born c. 1873 Married: McKinnon, James Francis A. Married c. 1893 Probably Magheraboy, District of Croagh,Antrim B. Born c. 1873 Sincerly Yours James E. Kerr

Dear Listers, I am calling on you for some advice on obtaining marriage certificates on my trip to Ireland in September 1999.We are planning to land in Belfast on September 10,1999 for a ten day stay.While there I would like to get marriage certificates for the five marriages listed below.Since the marriages are prior to 1922 I assume that I will have to go to Dublin for them. Quetions: 1. Will they let me search their archives as an alien? 2. Can I expect to get certificates on the same day? 3. Should I try to get Data from the local church where they were probably married? 4.Is their any logic in applying by mail in advance of applying in person? 5. Are their files readily accessed or do you have to wait for a clerk to find the record volumes that you need? These are just a few of the questions that I can think of .I would appreciate any advice that you might have in this pursuit.Below are the list of marriages that I am researching. Grandparents Marriage Note 1. Boyd,Rachel, Ballyoughagh, A. Married c.1892 Probably Ballyoughagh, District of Croagh, Antrim B. Born c.1873 Married Mcvicker,Daniel A. Married c. 1892 Probably Ballyouglagh,District of Croagh, Antrim B. Born c. !873 2. Brown,Jane, Ballymulderg, District of Magherafelt A. Married c. 1893 Probably Ballymulderg, District of Magherafelt, Londonderry B. Born c, 1873 Married: McQuillan, Edward A. Married c. 1893 Probably Ballymulderg,District of Magherafelt,Londonderry B. Born c. 1873 3. Hanna,Jean, Knockaholet A. Married c. 1864 probably Knockaholet, District of Castlequarter, Antrim B. Born c. 1844 Married:Kerr, William A. Married c. 1864 Probably Knockaholet, District of Castlequarter, Antrim B. Born c. 1844 4. Kerr, Christopher A. Married c. 1886 Probably Knockaholet, District of Castlequarter, Antrim B. Born c. 1865 Married: Mcvicker, Ann A. Married c. 1886 Probably Knockaholet , District of Castlequarter, Antrim B. Born c. 1865 5. Mcarthur, Jane A. Married c. 1893 Probably Magheraboy, District of Croagh,Antrim B, Born c. 1873 Married: McKinnon, James Francis A. Married c. 1893 Probably Magheraboy, District of Croagh,Antrim B. Born c. 1873 Sincerly Yours James E. Kerr urs=20 James E. Kerr =20 =20

Hi Susan, I'm sorry that I can't help you with the Carrickfergus Old Graveyard Inscriptions book. I have a few copies of pages sent to me from a friend (possibly relative), in England. He was born in Carrickfergus, so I'm assuming that he got a book from there. On the top of the pages, he wrote, "St. Nicholas Parish Church," so he could have gotten them there. I wish I could have been more help! Perhaps the Ulster Historical Society would have something? Hazel

According to MacLysaght's book of SURNAMES OF IRELAND, Dennison is found in the Province of Ulster and Dennis (same name) is found in Cork and Dublin. Don't know what time frame you are searching, but in the Griffith's Valuation (1848-1864) found a few Dennis's in Armagh, Fermanagh and Tyrone. Dennison and Dennisson was found in Armagh, Antrim, Down and Tyrone, with the name most numerous in County Down. In the 1890 Matheson Report of Irish Births, the name Dennison is shown with 6 births in County Armagh. Slan go foill, Margaret (Mairead) >Has anyone heard of the surname Denison in Ulster. If so where, I have >been unable to find any record. > >

Dick...there is a Templemore in Tipperary....but that is the closest I can find of that name in the London Times Atlas of the World that I own. It is a pretty good Atlas....one of the best. It's possible the name could have been changed. I'm new to this Irish list but I do know that many places or small Villages in France and Alsace ......have many different names for them. Don't know if this is true of Ireland. x xxxxoo Louise King La Jolla, CA (researching AIKEN) Ballywalter, County Down In a message dated 6/10/99 7:59:14, [email protected] writes: << I have a copy of an 1848 letter from a person in Templemoyle, Ireland. I am unable to find Templemoyle on any map. Can anyone place this town? Dick Pollock >>

I have a copy of an 1848 letter from a person in Templemoyle, Ireland. I am unable to find Templemoyle on any map. Can anyone place this town? Dick Pollock

Has anyone heard of the surname Denison in Ulster. If so where, I have been unable to find any record.