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    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Rootsweb lists
    2. Pat Connors
    3. It start this past week, those list that are on Rootsweb that are not being used are being taken down.  So, if you have lists that you use now and then and do not want them to be taken down, how about sending a message to it now and then.  If you have not found all your ancestors, write for help.  If you do have all your ancestors, write with research clues and places to use on the internet that helped you. In the past, these have been good lists that helped me find my ancestors. Thanks, -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    03/05/2019 01:54:36
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Rootsweb World Connect family trees
    2. Pat Connors
    3. I am happy to say, that Rootsweb/Ancestry finally put the family tree section back online (World Connect).  Of course, they new have new addresses.  You can not find mine at: https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=nymets&recno=0 You can search World Connect trees here: https://wc.rootsweb.com/ -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    03/02/2019 12:48:17
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] New Records, free to search at FamilySearch.org
    2. Pat Connors
    3. FamilySearch expanded its free online archives in September 2018 with almost 13 million new indexed family history records and over 500,000 digital images from around the world. New historical records were added from Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Colombia, England, France, Italy, Lesotho, Liberia, Mexico, Netherlands, Peru, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Wales, and the United States, which includes Arkansas, California, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Virginia. New digital images were added from BillionGraves and Georgia. Links for new records online: https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/records-familysearch-september-2018/?et_cid=1182192&et_rid=111122986&linkid=https%3a%2f%2fwww.familysearch.org%2fblog%2fen%2frecords-familysearch-september-2018%2f&cid=em-fsn-8011 Australia, South Australia, Immigrants Ship Papers, 1849-1940 Australia, South Australia, School Admission Registers Australia, Victoria, Inward Passenger Lists England: National Index of Wills and AdministrationsEngland, Derbyshire, England and Wales, 1858-1957 Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1537-1918 Devon and Cornwall Marriages, 1660-1912 Devon Bishop's Transcripts, 1558-1887 Lancashire, Oldham Cemetery Registers, 1797-2004 Northamptonshire, Non-conformist Records, 1647-1840 Wales, Parish Registers, 1678-2001 United States: Arkansas, Sevier Co, Birth Recrods, 1914-1923 California County Naturalizations, 1831-1985 Georgia Probate Records, 1742-1990 Georgia, Fulton County, 1827-1955 Idaho, Bingham County Records, 1885-1920 Illinois, County Naturalization Records, 1800-1998 Many more from Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montanta, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregan, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia US:  Border Crossing from Canada, WW1 deaths Many more from France, Italy, Mexico, South Africa, Peru, Netherlands, Liberia, Lesotho, Peru, Spain, Sweden Billion Graves Index -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    10/28/2018 12:42:31
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Rootsweb news
    2. Pat Connors
    3. As many may or may not know, since the middle of August, many of us did not receive any Rootsweb mail.   Seems like AT&T and other email providers did not like all the anti-spam stuff that was put in our posts.  While us list owners were told that first, it was ATT's fault and then that ATT had banned Rootsweb, the long and short of it is that ATT treated the anti-spam code as spam so didn't deliver any posts that had it in it to us. You may have noticed a few days ago, the links in the emails are now clean, without any spam warning.  Check the link below my name at the end of this post.  It is a clean link, no gobably gook.  After of couple of days of clean emails, ATT, yesterday started allowing emails from Rootsweb to go through. So now that we are back 100%, lets start communicating.  Do every single one of you, have your family tree completed and back more than one generation?  I have one branch back to my 4th great grandfather by finding my 3rd great grandmother was born in County Down, Ireland in 1790.  It took me 19 yrs to find her place of birth.  She married a Smith in 1809 in New York City and that did not make it easy but by following her in the various censuses, I had a time when she didn't show up in them anymore so it was time to find her death certificate. Using the Italian Genealogy Group website, I found her death date and was able to get a copy of her death cert using Family History Library films.  It gave me her baptism date, her maiden name and her place of birth.  So with that info, I found her baptism record with the name of her father and also found four brothers. Here is the link for the Italian Genealogy Group.  Their records do not cover just Italian ancestors, mine was Irish. http://italiangen.org/records-search/ Now I think we have to get our lists busy again.  So, why not share one of your research journeys that was successful in finding one of your ancestors.  Share how you found a record that opened doors -- Pat Connors mcantyhttp://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    10/20/2018 05:58:42
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] IGP Update for September
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. Hi! Below you will find the major files added to the IGP Archives in September. FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Church Records Aghadrumsee; Burials, Clones Parish 1858-1866 Aghadrumsee; Marriages, Clones Parish, 1829-1836 Galloon Burial Index (CoI) 1860-1881 Galloon Register, Dio. of Clogher Burials, (CoI) 1860-1881 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2JtJljo&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=zLGxw_ta-hGxL9_fG_pTBGKPEYgyOc7uPfwdbjtCRJk&m=j2CFckQoCnMEKodVxBvS29LiXipYMyXwveIGmnZivnc&s=G-uQmnl7Za9ucrN4nmbuJRMwebrNJnzJvXjaxMY-Zh8&e= MONAGHAN & FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Church Records Clones Parish Registers, Baptisms, 1838-1841 Clones Parish Registers, Baptisms, 1842-1845 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2L95AjW&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=zLGxw_ta-hGxL9_fG_pTBGKPEYgyOc7uPfwdbjtCRJk&m=j2CFckQoCnMEKodVxBvS29LiXipYMyXwveIGmnZivnc&s=ZEXzHAuI7pVgGMHFlH_cf-g5mZf4Hy4RaYDzQv2HJec&e= All the best, Christina https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.igp-2Dweb.com_IGPArchives_&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=zLGxw_ta-hGxL9_fG_pTBGKPEYgyOc7uPfwdbjtCRJk&m=j2CFckQoCnMEKodVxBvS29LiXipYMyXwveIGmnZivnc&s=NdNGx362cBZOLZUL9DBK1CNrDpVb2ZGpN7AV8F8RK1Y&e=

    10/02/2018 07:17:54
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: Tithe Applotments
    2. Pat Connors
    3. What is URL for your website? > ConnorsGenealogy .com > > I have just added the following civil parish tithe applotments to the > > Co. Down section of my website: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.connorsgenealogy.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=zLGxw_ta-hGxL9_fG_pTBGKPEYgyOc7uPfwdbjtCRJk&m=4hZZuCn8kyxpGF4ns51hhFTb0659LH7tS-8rSRrl_kA&s=yhyEfq0Z2KcJooRGRLp4VkyqELYVpV8EjFgphUD7zew&e= [email protected]

    09/03/2018 11:52:21
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: Tithe Applotments
    2. Colin Brooks
    3. Pat, What is URL for your website? On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 7:31 PM Pat Connors <[email protected]> wrote: > I have just added the following civil parish tithe applotments to the > Co. Down section of my website: Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected]

    09/03/2018 08:24:20
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Tithe Applotments
    2. Pat Connors
    3. I have just added the following civil parish tithe applotments to the Co. Down section of my website: Aghadaderg Annahilt Hillsborough Magheralin I also added Shankill Tithes to the Co. Armagh section of my website, now all tithes for County Armagh are online. -- Pat Connors https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.connorsgenealogy.com&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=zLGxw_ta-hGxL9_fG_pTBFy4LCz53sjwliM8G4JAcDo&m=oncf6ZgSnDdAEpSdOaJLtZbj1tcyOXukN6v0DtEdwpA&s=UiM0OrWm5N-7d1vxpSqISx9SE7hwp82Mp9a3AVCds0M&e=

    09/03/2018 05:31:25
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Files added to the IGP Archives in August
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. Here are the latest files added to the IGP Archives for Northern Ireland. ============ FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Church Records Aghadrumsee; Burials, Clones Parish 1829-1857 (3 files) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.igp-2Dweb.com_IGPArchives_ire_fermanagh_church.htm&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=zLGxw_ta-hGxL9_fG_pTBGKPEYgyOc7uPfwdbjtCRJk&m=BBaMq3UjB6MRc82R9gogr_iMqhctAqsUFRfNrg7KV9Y&s=GFbZTffw9QjE0zETB_v_tET_bylFoiq946J5rIzIB9Y&e= MONAGHAN & FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Church Records Clones Parish Registers, Baptisms, 1834-1837 Clones Parish Registers, Baptisms, 1799-1804 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.igp-2Dweb.com_IGPArchives_ire_monaghan_clones.htm&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=zLGxw_ta-hGxL9_fG_pTBGKPEYgyOc7uPfwdbjtCRJk&m=BBaMq3UjB6MRc82R9gogr_iMqhctAqsUFRfNrg7KV9Y&s=QfVOfk1hprOqCHHBI1WpUmWCmofFUpEDhfQglBlaabQ&e= Thanks, Christina https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.igp-2Dweb.com_IGPArchives_&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=zLGxw_ta-hGxL9_fG_pTBGKPEYgyOc7uPfwdbjtCRJk&m=BBaMq3UjB6MRc82R9gogr_iMqhctAqsUFRfNrg7KV9Y&s=3mpC9Q4yOBgkg4PKrZ79e5jD8ebpxUYtS7OpW-kQWzA&e=

    09/02/2018 11:55:30
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Broken Link
    2. Dave Marshall
    3. The link for Unsubscribe and Archives is not working. Please remove me from this list. Thank you! https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/northern-ireland

    08/21/2018 12:07:03
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Brownlee surname registry
    2. Pat Connors
    3. I have started a Brownlee surname registry on my website at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Brownlee/ If you would like to add your name(s), please read the instructions at the bottom of the surname page. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    08/19/2018 08:35:28
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Brownlee surname registry reminder
    2. Pat Connors
    3. I have started a Brownlee surname registry on my website at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Brownlee/surnames.htm I have surname registries on all of the surname sections of my website and they help people connect with others looking for others with Brownlee surname in their family tree.  Over the years, I have heard from many that made connections and were able to get their tree larger and had more data about their families. If you want to add your name(s), follow the instructions on the bottom of the registry and I will will get your data online when I do my next update. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    08/19/2018 05:58:16
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] County Down surname registry updated
    2. Pat Connors
    3. I have just updated the Co Down Surname Registry on my website at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Down/ This is a very new addition to my website which I added  a couple of months ago when I found that my 3rd great grandmother, Mary Ann Brownlee was born in Magheradartin, Hillsborough Civil Parish in 1790. So this is first update and pleasantly surprised when almost 20 added their names. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    08/18/2018 03:51:12
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 45
    2. Craig Fulton
    3. Thanks for your responses. Good to know you are not blindly following other peoples trees. I too, have people with the same name living in the same area. Very hard to discern. Anyone on this list have surname Fulton from Co. Tyrone, 1800s- 1900s? One was a tailor in NTS, the other 2 lines were farmers. Please contact me. Craig > On Aug 17, 2018, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NORTHERN-IRELAND digest..." > > mime format > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43 (Gregory) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 19:24:01 -0400 > From: Gregory <[email protected]> > Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue > 43 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > I agree with what you are saying there are a lot of people out there that use other trees to further their trees. That is because so > many trees are out there with incorrect information in them. Ancestry and Family Search are two of the companies that have trees that > aren't correct put if you add this incorrect information to these sites will sometime confirm them. I have a John Gregory born 1666 in > Goagh, Ireland and I was sent that his father was John Gregory 1640 and his father was John Gregory 1610. I further investigated them > and the John Gregory 1640 was married 10 years after my John Gregory 1666 was born. So I deleted John Gregory 1640 and John Gregory > 1610. Now this John Gregory 1640 and John Gregory 1610 may be related to my John Gregory 1666, put till I can prove it they will be > someone I'm going to keep searching for > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craigfulton via > NORTHERN-IRELAND > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Craigfulton > Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43 > > Sorry to send this again, but my content was cut off in previous > Sends. > > Yes, those are the types of original sources I am speaking of. No offense, but I see so many people online who just use other peoples > trees as a source. > > I have been doing this for 20 years along with some cousins. I've been to PRONI and Co. Tyrone in person, as well as hired a > professional genealogist. I am still stuck in the middle 1800s. > > Many of the sources you mentioned may validate a name, but there's no way to confirm the "John Smith" they list, is the John Smith in > my tree. Without a date of birth or at least age and locality there is no guarantee it's the right person. Tithes and griffiths have > never done anything for me except create a spreadsheet of people with the same surname. Most sources do not list parents or children, > except marriage, birth & death. > > Your claim of having traced back to 1610 would mean about 16 generations. Sorry but I feel that's a very hard claim to prove. Starting > with current day working backwards, if you make one error or assumption, the rest is also wrong. > > > > Craig Fulton > [email protected] > >> On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Send NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body >> subscribe to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and >> body unsubscribe to [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of NORTHERN-IRELAND digest..." >> >> mime format >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Source documents (Pat Connors) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 10:59:07 -0700 >> From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> >> Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: Source documents >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]om> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Are you referring to church records and/or land records? Each church has a >> different time period that their records have survived to. I have 1700 >> records for Kilkenny Church of Ireland, also some in Co. Down. Then in >> Tipperary RC churches do not seem to go back that far. For each church the >> date is different. >> >> Land records start with the Flax Growers 1796, then the Tithe Applotments >> between 1823-1837 and then the Griffith's Valuation between 1848 and 1864, >> all given name, civil parish and county. >> >> Civil records (bmd) are available starting with non-Catholic marriages in >> 1845. Registration of births, marriages and deaths for entire population >> did not begin until 1865. >> >> Sadly, while censuses were taken every 10 years starting in 1821, however, >> only 1901 and 1911 have survived. >> >> >> >>> Just curious as to what exact written proof (source documents) >>> You would have for each generation going back to 1610? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to >> %(real_name)[email protected] >> >> To post a message to the NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list -- [email protected], send an email to >> %(real_name)[email protected] >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)[email protected]%(host_name)s >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43 >> ************************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > Post messages in plain text only. no attachments > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/northern-ireland > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)[email protected] > > To post a message to the NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list -- [email protected], send an email to %(real_name)[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)[email protected]%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 45 > ************************************************

    08/17/2018 06:10:20
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43
    2. Gregory
    3. I agree with what you are saying there are a lot of people out there that use other trees to further their trees. That is because so many trees are out there with incorrect information in them. Ancestry and Family Search are two of the companies that have trees that aren't correct put if you add this incorrect information to these sites will sometime confirm them. I have a John Gregory born 1666 in Goagh, Ireland and I was sent that his father was John Gregory 1640 and his father was John Gregory 1610. I further investigated them and the John Gregory 1640 was married 10 years after my John Gregory 1666 was born. So I deleted John Gregory 1640 and John Gregory 1610. Now this John Gregory 1640 and John Gregory 1610 may be related to my John Gregory 1666, put till I can prove it they will be someone I'm going to keep searching for -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craigfulton via NORTHERN-IRELAND Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:15 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Craigfulton Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43 Sorry to send this again, but my content was cut off in previous Sends. Yes, those are the types of original sources I am speaking of. No offense, but I see so many people online who just use other peoples trees as a source. I have been doing this for 20 years along with some cousins. I've been to PRONI and Co. Tyrone in person, as well as hired a professional genealogist. I am still stuck in the middle 1800s. Many of the sources you mentioned may validate a name, but there's no way to confirm the "John Smith" they list, is the John Smith in my tree. Without a date of birth or at least age and locality there is no guarantee it's the right person. Tithes and griffiths have never done anything for me except create a spreadsheet of people with the same surname. Most sources do not list parents or children, except marriage, birth & death. Your claim of having traced back to 1610 would mean about 16 generations. Sorry but I feel that's a very hard claim to prove. Starting with current day working backwards, if you make one error or assumption, the rest is also wrong. Craig Fulton [email protected] > On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NORTHERN-IRELAND digest..." > > mime format > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Source documents (Pat Connors) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 10:59:07 -0700 > From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> > Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: Source documents > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Are you referring to church records and/or land records? Each church has a > different time period that their records have survived to. I have 1700 > records for Kilkenny Church of Ireland, also some in Co. Down. Then in > Tipperary RC churches do not seem to go back that far. For each church the > date is different. > > Land records start with the Flax Growers 1796, then the Tithe Applotments > between 1823-1837 and then the Griffith's Valuation between 1848 and 1864, > all given name, civil parish and county. > > Civil records (bmd) are available starting with non-Catholic marriages in > 1845. Registration of births, marriages and deaths for entire population > did not begin until 1865. > > Sadly, while censuses were taken every 10 years starting in 1821, however, > only 1901 and 1911 have survived. > > > >> Just curious as to what exact written proof (source documents) >> You would have for each generation going back to 1610? >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)[email protected] > > To post a message to the NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list -- [email protected], send an email to > %(real_name)[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)[email protected]%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43 > ************************************************ _______________________________________________ Post messages in plain text only. no attachments _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/northern-ireland Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    08/16/2018 05:24:01
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: record sources
    2. Pat Connors
    3. What records like the tithes, the griffiths and the flax growers are good for is giving you a lead where your ancestors* may* have lived in Ireland. With those leads/clues, one's next step are the church and/or civil records, baptisms, marriages and deaths. By themselves, the land records prove nothing, as you have pointed out. Yes, those are the types of original sources I am speaking of. No offense, > but I see so many people online who just use other peoples trees as a > source. > > I have been doing this for 20 years along with some cousins. I’ve been to > PRONI and Co. Tyrone in person, as well as hired a professional > genealogist. I am still stuck in the middle 1800s. > > Many of the sources you mentioned may validate a name, but there’s no way > to confirm the “John Smith” they list, is the John Smith in my tree. > Without a date of birth or at least age and locality there is no guarantee > it’s the right person. Tithes and griffiths have never done anything for me > except create a spreadsheet of people with the same surname. Most sources > do not list parents or children, except marriage, birth & death. > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com [email protected]

    08/16/2018 12:34:45
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43
    2. Craigfulton
    3. Sorry to send this again, but my content was cut off in previous Sends. Yes, those are the types of original sources I am speaking of. No offense, but I see so many people online who just use other peoples trees as a source. I have been doing this for 20 years along with some cousins. I’ve been to PRONI and Co. Tyrone in person, as well as hired a professional genealogist. I am still stuck in the middle 1800s. Many of the sources you mentioned may validate a name, but there’s no way to confirm the “John Smith” they list, is the John Smith in my tree. Without a date of birth or at least age and locality there is no guarantee it’s the right person. Tithes and griffiths have never done anything for me except create a spreadsheet of people with the same surname. Most sources do not list parents or children, except marriage, birth & death. Your claim of having traced back to 1610 would mean about 16 generations. Sorry but I feel that’s a very hard claim to prove. Starting with current day working backwards, if you make one error or assumption, the rest is also wrong. Craig Fulton [email protected] > On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NORTHERN-IRELAND digest..." > > mime format > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Source documents (Pat Connors) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 10:59:07 -0700 > From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> > Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: Source documents > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Are you referring to church records and/or land records? Each church has a > different time period that their records have survived to. I have 1700 > records for Kilkenny Church of Ireland, also some in Co. Down. Then in > Tipperary RC churches do not seem to go back that far. For each church the > date is different. > > Land records start with the Flax Growers 1796, then the Tithe Applotments > between 1823-1837 and then the Griffith's Valuation between 1848 and 1864, > all given name, civil parish and county. > > Civil records (bmd) are available starting with non-Catholic marriages in > 1845. Registration of births, marriages and deaths for entire population > did not begin until 1865. > > Sadly, while censuses were taken every 10 years starting in 1821, however, > only 1901 and 1911 have survived. > > > >> Just curious as to what exact written proof (source documents) >> You would have for each generation going back to 1610? >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)[email protected] > > To post a message to the NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list -- [email protected], send an email to %(real_name)[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)[email protected]%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43 > ************************************************

    08/16/2018 06:14:55
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: Source documents
    2. Pat Connors
    3. Are you referring to church records and/or land records? Each church has a different time period that their records have survived to. I have 1700 records for Kilkenny Church of Ireland, also some in Co. Down. Then in Tipperary RC churches do not seem to go back that far. For each church the date is different. Land records start with the Flax Growers 1796, then the Tithe Applotments between 1823-1837 and then the Griffith's Valuation between 1848 and 1864, all given name, civil parish and county. Civil records (bmd) are available starting with non-Catholic marriages in 1845. Registration of births, marriages and deaths for entire population did not begin until 1865. Sadly, while censuses were taken every 10 years starting in 1821, however, only 1901 and 1911 have survived. > Just curious as to what exact written proof (source documents) > You would have for each generation going back to 1610? > > > > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com [email protected]

    08/15/2018 11:59:07
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: County Monaghan Flax Growers 1796
    2. Jocelyn Gould
    3. Thanks Pat for sharing - it is much appreciated.  I was lucky to find my Bell family in Co. Armagh recently. Jocelyn On 13/08/2018 11:51 am, Pat Connors wrote: > I have just added to the County Monaghan section of my website 5 pages > of names listed in the 1796 Ireland Flax Growers list on cd#271 of > Family Tree Maker's.  Each entry gives full name and the civil parish > where they resided. > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Monaghan/index.htm >

    08/14/2018 09:52:21
    1. [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 39
    2. Sharon McArdle
    3. Could be Louth? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2018, at 11:55 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NORTHERN-IRELAND digest..." > > mime format > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: County Monaghan Flax Growers 1796 (Teva Scheer) > 2. Re: County Monaghan Flax Growers 1796 (Gregory) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 18:51:16 -0700 > From: Teva Scheer <[email protected]> > Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: County Monaghan Flax Growers 1796 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > There is no such county as Cough, nor has there ever been one. I would guess your ancestor meant Cavan County. Cavan County was traditionally part of Ulster, most of which became Northern Ireland when that entity was established in the 1920s. Cavan County sits on the border with Northern Ireland, but is part of the Republic of Ireland. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 13, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I was told it was in the Northern Ireland back in 1610, what it is called now I don't know, but I would like to know if I get back >> to Ireland and see it. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Connors >> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 3:29 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: County Monaghan Flax Growers 1796 >> >> Lucky you. Where is Cough County in Ireland? >> >> >> I Have Gregory family back to 1610 in Cough County, Ireland. >>> >>> >> -- >> Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Post messages in plain text only. no attachments >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/northern-ireland >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Post messages in plain text only. no attachments >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/northern-ireland >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 23:55:01 -0400 > From: Gregory <[email protected]> > Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: County Monaghan Flax Growers 1796 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > It is Coagh, County Tyrone, Ireland, not Cough > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Teva Scheer > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: County Monaghan Flax Growers 1796 > > There is no such county as Cough, nor has there ever been one. I would guess your ancestor meant Cavan County. Cavan County was > traditionally part of Ulster, most of which became Northern Ireland when that entity was established in the 1920s. Cavan County sits > on the border with Northern Ireland, but is part of the Republic of Ireland. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 13, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I was told it was in the Northern Ireland back in 1610, what it is called now I don't know, but I would like to know if I get back >> to Ireland and see it. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Connors >> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 3:29 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [NORTHERN-IRELAND] Re: County Monaghan Flax Growers 1796 >> >> Lucky you. Where is Cough County in Ireland? >> >> >> I Have Gregory family back to 1610 in Cough County, Ireland. >>> >>> >> -- >> Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Post messages in plain text only. no attachments >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/northern-ireland >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Post messages in plain text only. no attachments >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/northern-ireland >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Post messages in plain text only. no attachments > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/northern-ireland > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)[email protected] > > To post a message to the NORTHERN-IRELAND mailing list -- [email protected], send an email to %(real_name)[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)[email protected]%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NORTHERN-IRELAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 39 > ************************************************

    08/14/2018 07:01:53