Oh yes, when Aunty used to give us artichokes I knew what to expect from hubby on the way home......windows open even if it was raining...well a girl has to breathe... Maggie Surname interests: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent MATTHEWS, GRANT, COAFFEE, BERESFORD, SWEENEY in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere