Hi Mike - I didn't realise you were teaching in Saudi. I have a friend - Marge Davidson - teaching out there.....if you know her, and get a chance to get a word in edgeways, please say "Maggie from Green Fingers says Hi". What is it about you all out there - my daughter is teaching in Egypt. I thought it was the sun, but perhaps it is the rain.....makes you feel more at home...lol Maggie --- mikemail <michael@ae.net.sa> wrote: > No I didn't get it - I did send a contribution to > your Jesus chain - Guess you missed it. trust you > are well - I just had a severe experience in the > Great Flood of Jeddah. > > Who says it doesn't rain in Saudi Arabia? > I was in my student's 'chateau' at Al Shatee next to > Consulate near the Red Sea. > I left at 9.30pm with the driver in their poorest > car, a new Toyota estate, and arrived home in > Araabeen St at 1.45am! (it takes 20 mins normally) > > I can hardly describe the horror of negotiating > Jeddah-the streets were fast running streams the > water in the car was at seat level I had my feet on > the dashboard. We sat at one point for almost 2 > hours at a stop light junction where there had been > an accident. People were almost swimming the > streets - families - all of course amidst the chaos > of downtown Jeddah on Thursdays. > > We (Indian driver) finally got free when I insisted > in breaking a police cordon (I figured they wouldn't > stop me as they are fairly incompetent) and came via > the airport road to the highway. > > What an experience ! I finally had to wade > barefooted into our flat - which is ground floor but > did escape water. > > Tell me about York! I lived it here. Of course, > today the streets are drying up. There are no drains > in Jeddah - not really needed. Water comes from a > complicated system of tankers -the water comes from > the sea via the Desalination Plant and is > distributed to the underground and rooftop water > tanks. Similarly sewage is taken from each house > by tanker fro disposal out of town. > > It has rained I think 3 times in 18 months - one > year without rain. > > Mike in Saudi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mikey. > To: NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 3:53 AM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches/Something > Beautiful for God > > > Dear Mike, > > A pleasure to see you back on list. > > It is possible that my off list em to you re > "Murderers" has gone astray. > > I would appreciate confimation one way or the > other? > > Best wishes, > > Mikey. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mikemail <michael@ae.net.sa> > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches/Something > Beautiful for God > > > > You can (could) buy this as a book(also > paperback) Marged it was on one of > my shelf favourites for a long time. Alas such > books are not allowed in > Saudi Arabia so it boxed somewhere. > > For example of a society who spent it all on > glittering churches look no > further than my ex country of abode - Portugal. > > In the 16th century they were leaders of the > world (something like > 1.Portugal 2. Holland 3.Britain at that time) they > blew the lot, the riches > of the East, Brazil, Africa mostly on processions > and churches etc. > > A glorious past which can't be forgotten - the > Portuguese word 'SAUDADES' > expresses it all really, one of those words, which > to paraphrase Pascal, is > know 'only to the heart' - of a Portuguese. > > > > Boa tarde > > > > Mike C > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Marged > > To: NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches > > > > > > I suppose when they built beautiful Churches > dripping with gold, they > > thought they were building something beautiful > for God. > > > > But I remember in the 70s a television > programme called "Something > Beautiful > > for God", presented by Malcolm Muggeridge, and > it was all about Mother > > Teresa of Calcutta, and the children she was > saving from death on the > > streets. No cathedral there. Just something > beautiful that went on for > a > > long time, all over the world. > > > > Marj > > > > ps But I do like beautiful Churches. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kostas & Angela Nicolaou > <titina23@spidernet.com.cy> > > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 4:38 PM > > Subject: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches > > > > > > > I had to come back and say I agree with > Mikey on this about the > > > churches. > > > > > > When I go into any church, no matter what > creed, I have to feel that > > > special feeling. If I don't I walk out. > > > I usually walk out of churches that are > dripping of Gold. > > > > > > I have my own relationship with God as well, > and I don't have to make > a > > > show (as some people here in Cyprus do) of > visiting the Church for the > > > sake of appearance. > > > > > > I agree that it should be a meeting place > for people to share their > love > > > of God and Jesus, and especially of each > other, which they tend to > > > forget. > > > People tend to ignore the wonderful > teachings of Jesus, including the > > > parables. The most difficult command to keep > I believe is to love thy > > > neighbour. > > > > > > Look around, it's broken all the time. 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I ask myself this question often Maggie - only been here just over a year, came from Pakistan where I spent a few years. It all began in the 80's in London......................... I am in Jeddah what about your friend? Yesterday a car bomb exploded in Riyadh - a British couple - the husband died in hospital, the wife was not injured but has suffered serious breakdown. I hope this is not the start of another anti-Brit/USA campaign I had my share of this in Pakistan where I lived almost on the Indian border. After The Great Flood all is drying up. A flash flood in a Wadi near here yesterday killed a family of seven - this doesn't happen often but you cannot escape apparently -a wall of water over 10ft just 'appears' - a bit like the Severn Bore I guess. Knowing Bedouins never camp in a valley area always higher, whatever the weather. It is said if you can see the water coming it is too late. Normally it's around 40c daily higher in the Summer - humidity often 100% - electricity is cheap so it's AC's always. Best Regards Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie To: NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches/Something Beautiful for God Hi Mike - I didn't realise you were teaching in Saudi. I have a friend - Marge Davidson - teaching out there.....if you know her, and get a chance to get a word in edgeways, please say "Maggie from Green Fingers says Hi". What is it about you all out there - my daughter is teaching in Egypt. I thought it was the sun, but perhaps it is the rain.....makes you feel more at home...lol Maggie --- mikemail <michael@ae.net.sa> wrote: > No I didn't get it - I did send a contribution to > your Jesus chain - Guess you missed it. trust you > are well - I just had a severe experience in the > Great Flood of Jeddah. > > Who says it doesn't rain in Saudi Arabia? > I was in my student's 'chateau' at Al Shatee next to > Consulate near the Red Sea. > I left at 9.30pm with the driver in their poorest > car, a new Toyota estate, and arrived home in > Araabeen St at 1.45am! (it takes 20 mins normally) > > I can hardly describe the horror of negotiating > Jeddah-the streets were fast running streams the > water in the car was at seat level I had my feet on > the dashboard. We sat at one point for almost 2 > hours at a stop light junction where there had been > an accident. People were almost swimming the > streets - families - all of course amidst the chaos > of downtown Jeddah on Thursdays. > > We (Indian driver) finally got free when I insisted > in breaking a police cordon (I figured they wouldn't > stop me as they are fairly incompetent) and came via > the airport road to the highway. > > What an experience ! I finally had to wade > barefooted into our flat - which is ground floor but > did escape water. > > Tell me about York! I lived it here. Of course, > today the streets are drying up. There are no drains > in Jeddah - not really needed. Water comes from a > complicated system of tankers -the water comes from > the sea via the Desalination Plant and is > distributed to the underground and rooftop water > tanks. Similarly sewage is taken from each house > by tanker fro disposal out of town. > > It has rained I think 3 times in 18 months - one > year without rain. > > Mike in Saudi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mikey. > To: NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 3:53 AM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches/Something > Beautiful for God > > > Dear Mike, > > A pleasure to see you back on list. > > It is possible that my off list em to you re > "Murderers" has gone astray. > > I would appreciate confimation one way or the > other? > > Best wishes, > > Mikey. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mikemail <michael@ae.net.sa> > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches/Something > Beautiful for God > > > > You can (could) buy this as a book(also > paperback) Marged it was on one of > my shelf favourites for a long time. Alas such > books are not allowed in > Saudi Arabia so it boxed somewhere. > > For example of a society who spent it all on > glittering churches look no > further than my ex country of abode - Portugal. > > In the 16th century they were leaders of the > world (something like > 1.Portugal 2. Holland 3.Britain at that time) they > blew the lot, the riches > of the East, Brazil, Africa mostly on processions > and churches etc. > > A glorious past which can't be forgotten - the > Portuguese word 'SAUDADES' > expresses it all really, one of those words, which > to paraphrase Pascal, is > know 'only to the heart' - of a Portuguese. > > > > Boa tarde > > > > Mike C > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Marged > > To: NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches > > > > > > I suppose when they built beautiful Churches > dripping with gold, they > > thought they were building something beautiful > for God. > > > > But I remember in the 70s a television > programme called "Something > Beautiful > > for God", presented by Malcolm Muggeridge, and > it was all about Mother > > Teresa of Calcutta, and the children she was > saving from death on the > > streets. No cathedral there. Just something > beautiful that went on for > a > > long time, all over the world. > > > > Marj > > > > ps But I do like beautiful Churches. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kostas & Angela Nicolaou > <titina23@spidernet.com.cy> > > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 4:38 PM > > Subject: [NTH-ENG] Re: Churches > > > > > > > I had to come back and say I agree with > Mikey on this about the > > > churches. > > > > > > When I go into any church, no matter what > creed, I have to feel that > > > special feeling. If I don't I walk out. > > > I usually walk out of churches that are > dripping of Gold. > > > > > > I have my own relationship with God as well, > and I don't have to make > a > > > show (as some people here in Cyprus do) of > visiting the Church for the > > > sake of appearance. > > > > > > I agree that it should be a meeting place > for people to share their > love > > > of God and Jesus, and especially of each > other, which they tend to > > > forget. > > > People tend to ignore the wonderful > teachings of Jesus, including the > > > parables. The most difficult command to keep > I believe is to love thy > > > neighbour. > > > > > > Look around, it's broken all the time. 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