Hi Danny, I thought I would take a new page to reply to your very eloquent writing. I am particularly interested to read about AJP Taylor's roots, as he ended up living somewhere around here, in Royal Birkdale. I don't think it was a grand place, but a very nice Victorian house, all the same. I know from what research I have done that what you write is almost a common story in Liverpool. My answer was to something Mikey said but he was referring to something completely different - we had been talking about the use of animals for food. Marged Always looking for: INGHAM, FISCHER, BENTLEY, HUGHES, PEACOCK, MOUNIER, LATINIER --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16/11/00