I find it hard to understand why LineOne or BT let all connections through on the second try when they cut off at the first attempt. Could it be that they are making money out of forcing subscribers into making TWO phone calls? Brian B Lancashire, UK. [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000