Dear Jean & Marged, Unless I am mistaken, the last time I took an interest, currently only unless then acceptable conversion by the Orthodox is fully carried out. However that doesnt nullify what Bryans wife stated!Failure to take other factors into consideration only compounds the matter further. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean White <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > I have been told by Jewish friends that one's mother must be Jewish to be > Jewish. Admittedly they came from very observant families. It must depend on > the particular group of Jews. > > Nowadays I understand Israel will allow entry of anyone, like myself, with > Jewish ancestry through a male line. Anyway my friends did not consider that > a Jewish grandfather made me Jewish - especially as I was brought up > Anglican and therefore a result of assimilation. > > Jean in NS > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Douglas-Matthews" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > > > > Hi Marged, > > > > I honestly hate to say this but, in this statement that you cannot be > Jewish > > unless the mother is a Jew, you are not right. I am married to a Jewess, > and > > I have it from the horses mouth so to speak, no!! I am not saying she > > nags(grin) > > From Bryan, > > The Wild Celt, > > Dum Spiro - Spero. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Marged <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > > > > > > > And yet, if you look at the beginning of St Matthew's Gospel, you will > see > > > Jesus's line traced back to Jesse through his mother's line. And Jews > are > > not > > > allowed to BE Jews unless the MOTHER is a Jew! > > > > > > Marj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | I never noticed that, Mikey! In fact all the female line in ancient > > times is > > > | left out. Its stuff like this that made me a feminist. :-)) > > > | > > > | The lady in question is now hurling abuse at the Cheshire listers. She > > feel > > > | their caveats are mere jealousy because they lack such a distinguished > > > | genealogy. Her last words are "to H* with them". She says Rootsweb > lists > > are > > > | never worth it.as they all react with the same sort of jealousy, etc.! > > > | > > > | > > > | ----- Original Message ----- > > > | From: "Mikey" <[email protected]> > > > | To: <[email protected]> > > > | Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:05 AM > > > | Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > > > | > > > | > > > | > Dear Jean et al, > > > | > > > > | > Eve was left out; I wonder why!:-)) > > > | > "refs available"!; on & in which Planet & Universe.......... > > > | > > > > | > Coppock's Reward Notice seen on the Ark. > > > | > > > > | > caveat emtor, > > > | > > > > | > Elvis Presley & Gromit. > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > | > Hi! > > > | > > | > My name's Annie, and I'm researching mostly COPPOCKS, > ancestors > > of > > > | > Aaron > > > | > > | in Mobberley & the area around Wilmslow ... but I'm also trying > to > > > | > structure > > > | > > | the rest of the COPPOCK lines in NE Cheshire, including COPPOCK > > > | > variations & > > > | > > | collateral lines like COATE COULSON COX SHORT LOWE ORRELL > BRADBURY > > > | > WILSON > > > | > > | WILKINSON LEIGH GOULDEN LEICHESTER...& also DIGBY TOMLINSON > SUTTON > > de > > > | > BURGH > > > | > > | MALLORY , Any information of course will be greatly appreciated. > > > | > > | > > > > | > > | > Generation 148 : Annie Marie* COPPOCK-KRANSDORF, Jean Marie* > > > | COPPOCK, > > > | > Paul > > > | > > | Wilke* COPPOCK, Horace* COPPOCK, David Miles* COPPOCK, Benjamin > > > | COPPOCK, > > > | > > | Benjamin Sr* COPPOCK, Joseph COPPOCK, Margaret COULSON, Joseph > > > | COULSTON, > > > | > > | Anne BORROW, Humphrey BORROWE, Humphrey BORROW, William BORROW, > > Robert > > > | > > | BORROW, William BORROW, John BORROW, William BORROW, Robert > Borrow > > Or > > > | > BURGH, > > > | > > | Robert (Burgh) STOCKTON, Robert DE STOCKTON, William DE > STOCKTON, > > Mary > > > | > > | DIGBY, John DE DIGBY, Sir John DE DIGBY, Arabell DE HARCOURT, > Sir > > > | > William DE > > > | > > | HARCOURT, Orabella DE QUINCY, Margaret DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, > > 3Rd > > > | Earl > > > | > Of > > > | > > | Leicester DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, 2Nd Earl Of Leicester DE > > BEAUMONT, > > > | > > | Elizabeth (Isabel) DE VERMANDOIS, Hugh MAGNUS, Henry I KING OF > > FRANCE, > > > | > > | Robert II KING OF FRANCE, Hugh Capet KING OF FRANCE, Hedwif OF > > SAXONY, > > > | > Henry > > > | > > | I, The Fowler, EMPEROR OF GERMANY, Otto, The Illustrious, DUKE > OF > > > | > SAXONY, > > > | > > | Hatwige D.Of EBERHARD, Gisele D.Of LOUIS I, Louis I KING OF > > FRANCE, > > > | > GERMANY > > > | > > | & ITALY, Hildegarde OF SWABI! > > > | > > | > A, Imma OF ALEMANIA, Nebi DUKE OF ALEMANIA, Houching DUKE OF > > > | ALEMANIA, > > > | > D. > > > | > > | Of Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Fara > > DUKE > > > | OF > > > | > > | BAVARIA, CLODOSINDIS, Sigebert I KING OF AUSTRASIA, Clothaire I > > KING > > > | OF > > > | > > | FRANKS, Clovis I KING OF FRANKS, Childeric I KING OF FRANKS, > > MEROVEE, > > > | > > | Clodius V "The Long Haired" KING OF FRANKS, PHARAMOND, Marcomir > > DUKE > > > | OF > > > | > > | FRANKS, Clodius DUKE OF EAST FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, > > Genebald > > > | > DUKE > > > | > > | OF FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, Walter KING OF FRANKS, > Clodius > > III > > > | > KING > > > | > > | OF FRANKS, Batherus KING OF FRANKS, Hilderic KING OF FRANKS, > Sunno > > > | > (Huano) > > > | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Farabert KING OF FRANKS, Clodmir IV KING OF > > FRANKS, > > > | > Marcomer > > > | > > | IV KING OF FRANKS, Odomir KING OF FRANKS, Richemer KING OF > FRANKS, > > > | > Ratherius > > > | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Antenor IV KING OF FRANKS, Clodomir III KING OF > > > | FRANKS, > > > | > > | Marcomer III, CLODIUS II, FRANCUS, ANTHARIUS, CASSANDER, > > MEROVACHUS, > > > | > > | CLODOMIR II, ANTENOR III, CLODIUS I, MARCOMER II, NICANOR, > > CLODOMIR I, > > > | > > | Bassanus MAGNUS, DIOCLES, HELENUS I,! > > > | > > | > PRIAMUS, ANTENOR, MARCOMIR I, Antenor II KING OF CIMMERIANS, > > > | Helenus > > > | > IV > > > | > > | KING OF CIMMERIANS, Priam IV KING OF CIMMERIANS, Marcomir KING > OF > > > | > > | CIMMERIANS, Dilulius II KING OF CIMMERIANS, Plaserius III KING > OF > > > | > > | CIMMERIANS, Helenus III KING OF CIMMERIANS, Dilulius I KING OF > > > | > CIMMERIANS, > > > | > > | Almadius KING OF CIMMERIANS, Gentilanor KING OF CIMMERIANS, > Priam > > III > > > | > KING > > > | > > | OF CIMMERIANS, Alexandre KING OF TROY, Basebelian II KING OF > TROY, > > > | > Plesron > > > | > > | II KING OF TROY, Helenus II KING OF TROY, Priam II KING OF TROY, > > > | Antenor > > > | > I > > > | > > | KING OF TROY, Plaserius II KING OF TROY, Zaberian KING OF TROY, > > > | Eliacor > > > | > KING > > > | > > | OF TROY, Plesron I KING OF TROY, Plaserius I KING OF TROY, > > Basabelian > > > | I > > > | > KING > > > | > > | OF TROY, Zelius KING OF TROY, Esdron KING OF TROY, Francus KING > OF > > > | TROY, > > > | > > | Zenter KING OF TROY, Helenus KING OF EPIRUS, Priam KING OF TROY, > > > | > Laomedon > > > | > > | KING OF TROY, Illus KING OF TROY, Tros KING OF TROY, > Erichthonius > > KING > > > | > OF > > > | > > | DARDANIA, Darda KING OF DARDANIA, ZERAH, Judah KING OF GOSHEN, > > Jacob > > > | > KING OF > > > | > > | GOSHEN, ISAAC, ABRAHAM, TERAH, N! 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