And yet, if you look at the beginning of St Matthew's Gospel, you will see Jesus's line traced back to Jesse through his mother's line. And Jews are not allowed to BE Jews unless the MOTHER is a Jew! Marj | I never noticed that, Mikey! In fact all the female line in ancient times is | left out. Its stuff like this that made me a feminist. :-)) | | The lady in question is now hurling abuse at the Cheshire listers. She feel | their caveats are mere jealousy because they lack such a distinguished | genealogy. Her last words are "to H* with them". She says Rootsweb lists are | never worth it.as they all react with the same sort of jealousy, etc.! | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Mikey" <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:05 AM | Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro | | | > Dear Jean et al, | > | > Eve was left out; I wonder why!:-)) | > "refs available"!; on & in which Planet & Universe.......... | > | > Coppock's Reward Notice seen on the Ark. | > | > caveat emtor, | > | > Elvis Presley & Gromit. | > | > | > | > > | > Hi! | > > | > My name's Annie, and I'm researching mostly COPPOCKS, ancestors of | > Aaron | > > | in Mobberley & the area around Wilmslow ... but I'm also trying to | > structure | > > | the rest of the COPPOCK lines in NE Cheshire, including COPPOCK | > variations & | > > | collateral lines like COATE COULSON COX SHORT LOWE ORRELL BRADBURY | > WILSON | > > | WILKINSON LEIGH GOULDEN LEICHESTER...& also DIGBY TOMLINSON SUTTON de | > BURGH | > > | MALLORY , Any information of course will be greatly appreciated. | > > | > | > > | > Generation 148 : Annie Marie* COPPOCK-KRANSDORF, Jean Marie* | COPPOCK, | > Paul | > > | Wilke* COPPOCK, Horace* COPPOCK, David Miles* COPPOCK, Benjamin | COPPOCK, | > > | Benjamin Sr* COPPOCK, Joseph COPPOCK, Margaret COULSON, Joseph | COULSTON, | > > | Anne BORROW, Humphrey BORROWE, Humphrey BORROW, William BORROW, Robert | > > | BORROW, William BORROW, John BORROW, William BORROW, Robert Borrow Or | > BURGH, | > > | Robert (Burgh) STOCKTON, Robert DE STOCKTON, William DE STOCKTON, Mary | > > | DIGBY, John DE DIGBY, Sir John DE DIGBY, Arabell DE HARCOURT, Sir | > William DE | > > | HARCOURT, Orabella DE QUINCY, Margaret DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, 3Rd | Earl | > Of | > > | Leicester DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, 2Nd Earl Of Leicester DE BEAUMONT, | > > | Elizabeth (Isabel) DE VERMANDOIS, Hugh MAGNUS, Henry I KING OF FRANCE, | > > | Robert II KING OF FRANCE, Hugh Capet KING OF FRANCE, Hedwif OF SAXONY, | > Henry | > > | I, The Fowler, EMPEROR OF GERMANY, Otto, The Illustrious, DUKE OF | > SAXONY, | > > | Hatwige D.Of EBERHARD, Gisele D.Of LOUIS I, Louis I KING OF FRANCE, | > GERMANY | > > | & ITALY, Hildegarde OF SWABI! | > > | > A, Imma OF ALEMANIA, Nebi DUKE OF ALEMANIA, Houching DUKE OF | ALEMANIA, | > D. | > > | Of Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Fara DUKE | OF | > > | BAVARIA, CLODOSINDIS, Sigebert I KING OF AUSTRASIA, Clothaire I KING | OF | > > | FRANKS, Clovis I KING OF FRANKS, Childeric I KING OF FRANKS, MEROVEE, | > > | Clodius V "The Long Haired" KING OF FRANKS, PHARAMOND, Marcomir DUKE | OF | > > | FRANKS, Clodius DUKE OF EAST FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, Genebald | > DUKE | > > | OF FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, Walter KING OF FRANKS, Clodius III | > KING | > > | OF FRANKS, Batherus KING OF FRANKS, Hilderic KING OF FRANKS, Sunno | > (Huano) | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Farabert KING OF FRANKS, Clodmir IV KING OF FRANKS, | > Marcomer | > > | IV KING OF FRANKS, Odomir KING OF FRANKS, Richemer KING OF FRANKS, | > Ratherius | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Antenor IV KING OF FRANKS, Clodomir III KING OF | FRANKS, | > > | Marcomer III, CLODIUS II, FRANCUS, ANTHARIUS, CASSANDER, MEROVACHUS, | > > | CLODOMIR II, ANTENOR III, CLODIUS I, MARCOMER II, NICANOR, CLODOMIR I, | > > | Bassanus MAGNUS, DIOCLES, HELENUS I,! 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I was thinking about this myself, Marged. After all a fair amount of the bible is devoted to begats. A close friend once pointed out her family were Levites and therefore the males were priests or entitled to be. Obviously they felt they could trace their ancestry back to Abraham.Whether or not one could come up with a written down genealogy to show this nowadays is a moot point. Since my friend's family came from a village on the Russian -Polish border and had been subjected to pograms there may be good reason for following the maternal line. Her grandparents left before WWII and came to the US luckily for them as the entire village was wiped out in WWII. Jean in NS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > And yet, if you look at the beginning of St Matthew's Gospel, you will see > Jesus's line traced back to Jesse through his mother's line. And Jews are not > allowed to BE Jews unless the MOTHER is a Jew! > > Marj > > > > > | I never noticed that, Mikey! In fact all the female line in ancient times is > | left out. Its stuff like this that made me a feminist. :-)) > | > | The lady in question is now hurling abuse at the Cheshire listers. She feel > | their caveats are mere jealousy because they lack such a distinguished > | genealogy. Her last words are "to H* with them". She says Rootsweb lists are > | never worth it.as they all react with the same sort of jealousy, etc.! > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Mikey" <[email protected]> > | To: <[email protected]> > | Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:05 AM > | Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > | > | > | > Dear Jean et al, > | > > | > Eve was left out; I wonder why!:-)) > | > "refs available"!; on & in which Planet & Universe.......... > | > > | > Coppock's Reward Notice seen on the Ark. > | > > | > caveat emtor, > | > > | > Elvis Presley & Gromit. > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > Hi! > | > > | > My name's Annie, and I'm researching mostly COPPOCKS, ancestors of > | > Aaron > | > > | in Mobberley & the area around Wilmslow ... but I'm also trying to > | > structure > | > > | the rest of the COPPOCK lines in NE Cheshire, including COPPOCK > | > variations & > | > > | collateral lines like COATE COULSON COX SHORT LOWE ORRELL BRADBURY > | > WILSON > | > > | WILKINSON LEIGH GOULDEN LEICHESTER...& also DIGBY TOMLINSON SUTTON de > | > BURGH > | > > | MALLORY , Any information of course will be greatly appreciated. > | > > | > > | > > | > Generation 148 : Annie Marie* COPPOCK-KRANSDORF, Jean Marie* > | COPPOCK, > | > Paul > | > > | Wilke* COPPOCK, Horace* COPPOCK, David Miles* COPPOCK, Benjamin > | COPPOCK, > | > > | Benjamin Sr* COPPOCK, Joseph COPPOCK, Margaret COULSON, Joseph > | COULSTON, > | > > | Anne BORROW, Humphrey BORROWE, Humphrey BORROW, William BORROW, Robert > | > > | BORROW, William BORROW, John BORROW, William BORROW, Robert Borrow Or > | > BURGH, > | > > | Robert (Burgh) STOCKTON, Robert DE STOCKTON, William DE STOCKTON, Mary > | > > | DIGBY, John DE DIGBY, Sir John DE DIGBY, Arabell DE HARCOURT, Sir > | > William DE > | > > | HARCOURT, Orabella DE QUINCY, Margaret DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, 3Rd > | Earl > | > Of > | > > | Leicester DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, 2Nd Earl Of Leicester DE BEAUMONT, > | > > | Elizabeth (Isabel) DE VERMANDOIS, Hugh MAGNUS, Henry I KING OF FRANCE, > | > > | Robert II KING OF FRANCE, Hugh Capet KING OF FRANCE, Hedwif OF SAXONY, > | > Henry > | > > | I, The Fowler, EMPEROR OF GERMANY, Otto, The Illustrious, DUKE OF > | > SAXONY, > | > > | Hatwige D.Of EBERHARD, Gisele D.Of LOUIS I, Louis I KING OF FRANCE, > | > GERMANY > | > > | & ITALY, Hildegarde OF SWABI! > | > > | > A, Imma OF ALEMANIA, Nebi DUKE OF ALEMANIA, Houching DUKE OF > | ALEMANIA, > | > D. > | > > | Of Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Fara DUKE > | OF > | > > | BAVARIA, CLODOSINDIS, Sigebert I KING OF AUSTRASIA, Clothaire I KING > | OF > | > > | FRANKS, Clovis I KING OF FRANKS, Childeric I KING OF FRANKS, MEROVEE, > | > > | Clodius V "The Long Haired" KING OF FRANKS, PHARAMOND, Marcomir DUKE > | OF > | > > | FRANKS, Clodius DUKE OF EAST FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, Genebald > | > DUKE > | > > | OF FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, Walter KING OF FRANKS, Clodius III > | > KING > | > > | OF FRANKS, Batherus KING OF FRANKS, Hilderic KING OF FRANKS, Sunno > | > (Huano) > | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Farabert KING OF FRANKS, Clodmir IV KING OF FRANKS, > | > Marcomer > | > > | IV KING OF FRANKS, Odomir KING OF FRANKS, Richemer KING OF FRANKS, > | > Ratherius > | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Antenor IV KING OF FRANKS, Clodomir III KING OF > | FRANKS, > | > > | Marcomer III, CLODIUS II, FRANCUS, ANTHARIUS, CASSANDER, MEROVACHUS, > | > > | CLODOMIR II, ANTENOR III, CLODIUS I, MARCOMER II, NICANOR, CLODOMIR I, > | > > | Bassanus MAGNUS, DIOCLES, HELENUS I,! > | > > | > PRIAMUS, ANTENOR, MARCOMIR I, Antenor II KING OF CIMMERIANS, > | Helenus > | > IV > | > > | KING OF CIMMERIANS, Priam IV KING OF CIMMERIANS, Marcomir KING OF > | > > | CIMMERIANS, Dilulius II KING OF CIMMERIANS, Plaserius III KING OF > | > > | CIMMERIANS, Helenus III KING OF CIMMERIANS, Dilulius I KING OF > | > CIMMERIANS, > | > > | Almadius KING OF CIMMERIANS, Gentilanor KING OF CIMMERIANS, Priam III > | > KING > | > > | OF CIMMERIANS, Alexandre KING OF TROY, Basebelian II KING OF TROY, > | > Plesron > | > > | II KING OF TROY, Helenus II KING OF TROY, Priam II KING OF TROY, > | Antenor > | > I > | > > | KING OF TROY, Plaserius II KING OF TROY, Zaberian KING OF TROY, > | Eliacor > | > KING > | > > | OF TROY, Plesron I KING OF TROY, Plaserius I KING OF TROY, Basabelian > | I > | > KING > | > > | OF TROY, Zelius KING OF TROY, Esdron KING OF TROY, Francus KING OF > | TROY, > | > > | Zenter KING OF TROY, Helenus KING OF EPIRUS, Priam KING OF TROY, > | > Laomedon > | > > | KING OF TROY, Illus KING OF TROY, Tros KING OF TROY, Erichthonius KING > | > OF > | > > | DARDANIA, Darda KING OF DARDANIA, ZERAH, Judah KING OF GOSHEN, Jacob > | > KING OF > | > > | GOSHEN, ISAAC, ABRAHAM, TERAH, N! 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Hi Marged, I honestly hate to say this but, in this statement that you cannot be Jewish unless the mother is a Jew, you are not right. I am married to a Jewess, and I have it from the horses mouth so to speak, no!! I am not saying she nags(grin) From Bryan, The Wild Celt, Dum Spiro - Spero. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marged <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > And yet, if you look at the beginning of St Matthew's Gospel, you will see > Jesus's line traced back to Jesse through his mother's line. And Jews are not > allowed to BE Jews unless the MOTHER is a Jew! > > Marj > > > > > | I never noticed that, Mikey! In fact all the female line in ancient times is > | left out. Its stuff like this that made me a feminist. :-)) > | > | The lady in question is now hurling abuse at the Cheshire listers. She feel > | their caveats are mere jealousy because they lack such a distinguished > | genealogy. Her last words are "to H* with them". She says Rootsweb lists are > | never worth it.as they all react with the same sort of jealousy, etc.! > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Mikey" <[email protected]> > | To: <[email protected]> > | Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:05 AM > | Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > | > | > | > Dear Jean et al, > | > > | > Eve was left out; I wonder why!:-)) > | > "refs available"!; on & in which Planet & Universe.......... > | > > | > Coppock's Reward Notice seen on the Ark. > | > > | > caveat emtor, > | > > | > Elvis Presley & Gromit. > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > Hi! > | > > | > My name's Annie, and I'm researching mostly COPPOCKS, ancestors of > | > Aaron > | > > | in Mobberley & the area around Wilmslow ... but I'm also trying to > | > structure > | > > | the rest of the COPPOCK lines in NE Cheshire, including COPPOCK > | > variations & > | > > | collateral lines like COATE COULSON COX SHORT LOWE ORRELL BRADBURY > | > WILSON > | > > | WILKINSON LEIGH GOULDEN LEICHESTER...& also DIGBY TOMLINSON SUTTON de > | > BURGH > | > > | MALLORY , Any information of course will be greatly appreciated. > | > > | > > | > > | > Generation 148 : Annie Marie* COPPOCK-KRANSDORF, Jean Marie* > | COPPOCK, > | > Paul > | > > | Wilke* COPPOCK, Horace* COPPOCK, David Miles* COPPOCK, Benjamin > | COPPOCK, > | > > | Benjamin Sr* COPPOCK, Joseph COPPOCK, Margaret COULSON, Joseph > | COULSTON, > | > > | Anne BORROW, Humphrey BORROWE, Humphrey BORROW, William BORROW, Robert > | > > | BORROW, William BORROW, John BORROW, William BORROW, Robert Borrow Or > | > BURGH, > | > > | Robert (Burgh) STOCKTON, Robert DE STOCKTON, William DE STOCKTON, Mary > | > > | DIGBY, John DE DIGBY, Sir John DE DIGBY, Arabell DE HARCOURT, Sir > | > William DE > | > > | HARCOURT, Orabella DE QUINCY, Margaret DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, 3Rd > | Earl > | > Of > | > > | Leicester DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, 2Nd Earl Of Leicester DE BEAUMONT, > | > > | Elizabeth (Isabel) DE VERMANDOIS, Hugh MAGNUS, Henry I KING OF FRANCE, > | > > | Robert II KING OF FRANCE, Hugh Capet KING OF FRANCE, Hedwif OF SAXONY, > | > Henry > | > > | I, The Fowler, EMPEROR OF GERMANY, Otto, The Illustrious, DUKE OF > | > SAXONY, > | > > | Hatwige D.Of EBERHARD, Gisele D.Of LOUIS I, Louis I KING OF FRANCE, > | > GERMANY > | > > | & ITALY, Hildegarde OF SWABI! > | > > | > A, Imma OF ALEMANIA, Nebi DUKE OF ALEMANIA, Houching DUKE OF > | ALEMANIA, > | > D. > | > > | Of Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Fara DUKE > | OF > | > > | BAVARIA, CLODOSINDIS, Sigebert I KING OF AUSTRASIA, Clothaire I KING > | OF > | > > | FRANKS, Clovis I KING OF FRANKS, Childeric I KING OF FRANKS, MEROVEE, > | > > | Clodius V "The Long Haired" KING OF FRANKS, PHARAMOND, Marcomir DUKE > | OF > | > > | FRANKS, Clodius DUKE OF EAST FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, Genebald > | > DUKE > | > > | OF FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, Walter KING OF FRANKS, Clodius III > | > KING > | > > | OF FRANKS, Batherus KING OF FRANKS, Hilderic KING OF FRANKS, Sunno > | > (Huano) > | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Farabert KING OF FRANKS, Clodmir IV KING OF FRANKS, > | > Marcomer > | > > | IV KING OF FRANKS, Odomir KING OF FRANKS, Richemer KING OF FRANKS, > | > Ratherius > | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Antenor IV KING OF FRANKS, Clodomir III KING OF > | FRANKS, > | > > | Marcomer III, CLODIUS II, FRANCUS, ANTHARIUS, CASSANDER, MEROVACHUS, > | > > | CLODOMIR II, ANTENOR III, CLODIUS I, MARCOMER II, NICANOR, CLODOMIR I, > | > > | Bassanus MAGNUS, DIOCLES, HELENUS I,! > | > > | > PRIAMUS, ANTENOR, MARCOMIR I, Antenor II KING OF CIMMERIANS, > | Helenus > | > IV > | > > | KING OF CIMMERIANS, Priam IV KING OF CIMMERIANS, Marcomir KING OF > | > > | CIMMERIANS, Dilulius II KING OF CIMMERIANS, Plaserius III KING OF > | > > | CIMMERIANS, Helenus III KING OF CIMMERIANS, Dilulius I KING OF > | > CIMMERIANS, > | > > | Almadius KING OF CIMMERIANS, Gentilanor KING OF CIMMERIANS, Priam III > | > KING > | > > | OF CIMMERIANS, Alexandre KING OF TROY, Basebelian II KING OF TROY, > | > Plesron > | > > | II KING OF TROY, Helenus II KING OF TROY, Priam II KING OF TROY, > | Antenor > | > I > | > > | KING OF TROY, Plaserius II KING OF TROY, Zaberian KING OF TROY, > | Eliacor > | > KING > | > > | OF TROY, Plesron I KING OF TROY, Plaserius I KING OF TROY, Basabelian > | I > | > KING > | > > | OF TROY, Zelius KING OF TROY, Esdron KING OF TROY, Francus KING OF > | TROY, > | > > | Zenter KING OF TROY, Helenus KING OF EPIRUS, Priam KING OF TROY, > | > Laomedon > | > > | KING OF TROY, Illus KING OF TROY, Tros KING OF TROY, Erichthonius KING > | > OF > | > > | DARDANIA, Darda KING OF DARDANIA, ZERAH, Judah KING OF GOSHEN, Jacob > | > KING OF > | > > | GOSHEN, ISAAC, ABRAHAM, TERAH, N! 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I have been told by Jewish friends that one's mother must be Jewish to be Jewish. Admittedly they came from very observant families. It must depend on the particular group of Jews. Nowadays I understand Israel will allow entry of anyone, like myself, with Jewish ancestry through a male line. Anyway my friends did not consider that a Jewish grandfather made me Jewish - especially as I was brought up Anglican and therefore a result of assimilation. Jean in NS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Douglas-Matthews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > Hi Marged, > > I honestly hate to say this but, in this statement that you cannot be Jewish > unless the mother is a Jew, you are not right. I am married to a Jewess, and > I have it from the horses mouth so to speak, no!! I am not saying she > nags(grin) > From Bryan, > The Wild Celt, > Dum Spiro - Spero. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marged <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > > > > And yet, if you look at the beginning of St Matthew's Gospel, you will see > > Jesus's line traced back to Jesse through his mother's line. And Jews are > not > > allowed to BE Jews unless the MOTHER is a Jew! > > > > Marj > > > > > > > > > > | I never noticed that, Mikey! In fact all the female line in ancient > times is > > | left out. Its stuff like this that made me a feminist. :-)) > > | > > | The lady in question is now hurling abuse at the Cheshire listers. She > feel > > | their caveats are mere jealousy because they lack such a distinguished > > | genealogy. Her last words are "to H* with them". She says Rootsweb lists > are > > | never worth it.as they all react with the same sort of jealousy, etc.! > > | > > | > > | ----- Original Message ----- > > | From: "Mikey" <[email protected]> > > | To: <[email protected]> > > | Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:05 AM > > | Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: [CHS] Iintro > > | > > | > > | > Dear Jean et al, > > | > > > | > Eve was left out; I wonder why!:-)) > > | > "refs available"!; on & in which Planet & Universe.......... > > | > > > | > Coppock's Reward Notice seen on the Ark. > > | > > > | > caveat emtor, > > | > > > | > Elvis Presley & Gromit. > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > | > Hi! > > | > > | > My name's Annie, and I'm researching mostly COPPOCKS, ancestors > of > > | > Aaron > > | > > | in Mobberley & the area around Wilmslow ... but I'm also trying to > > | > structure > > | > > | the rest of the COPPOCK lines in NE Cheshire, including COPPOCK > > | > variations & > > | > > | collateral lines like COATE COULSON COX SHORT LOWE ORRELL BRADBURY > > | > WILSON > > | > > | WILKINSON LEIGH GOULDEN LEICHESTER...& also DIGBY TOMLINSON SUTTON > de > > | > BURGH > > | > > | MALLORY , Any information of course will be greatly appreciated. > > | > > | > > > | > > | > Generation 148 : Annie Marie* COPPOCK-KRANSDORF, Jean Marie* > > | COPPOCK, > > | > Paul > > | > > | Wilke* COPPOCK, Horace* COPPOCK, David Miles* COPPOCK, Benjamin > > | COPPOCK, > > | > > | Benjamin Sr* COPPOCK, Joseph COPPOCK, Margaret COULSON, Joseph > > | COULSTON, > > | > > | Anne BORROW, Humphrey BORROWE, Humphrey BORROW, William BORROW, > Robert > > | > > | BORROW, William BORROW, John BORROW, William BORROW, Robert Borrow > Or > > | > BURGH, > > | > > | Robert (Burgh) STOCKTON, Robert DE STOCKTON, William DE STOCKTON, > Mary > > | > > | DIGBY, John DE DIGBY, Sir John DE DIGBY, Arabell DE HARCOURT, Sir > > | > William DE > > | > > | HARCOURT, Orabella DE QUINCY, Margaret DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, > 3Rd > > | Earl > > | > Of > > | > > | Leicester DE BEAUMONT, Sir Robert, 2Nd Earl Of Leicester DE > BEAUMONT, > > | > > | Elizabeth (Isabel) DE VERMANDOIS, Hugh MAGNUS, Henry I KING OF > FRANCE, > > | > > | Robert II KING OF FRANCE, Hugh Capet KING OF FRANCE, Hedwif OF > SAXONY, > > | > Henry > > | > > | I, The Fowler, EMPEROR OF GERMANY, Otto, The Illustrious, DUKE OF > > | > SAXONY, > > | > > | Hatwige D.Of EBERHARD, Gisele D.Of LOUIS I, Louis I KING OF > FRANCE, > > | > GERMANY > > | > > | & ITALY, Hildegarde OF SWABI! > > | > > | > A, Imma OF ALEMANIA, Nebi DUKE OF ALEMANIA, Houching DUKE OF > > | ALEMANIA, > > | > D. > > | > > | Of Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Theodon II DUKE OF BAVARIA, Fara > DUKE > > | OF > > | > > | BAVARIA, CLODOSINDIS, Sigebert I KING OF AUSTRASIA, Clothaire I > KING > > | OF > > | > > | FRANKS, Clovis I KING OF FRANKS, Childeric I KING OF FRANKS, > MEROVEE, > > | > > | Clodius V "The Long Haired" KING OF FRANKS, PHARAMOND, Marcomir > DUKE > > | OF > > | > > | FRANKS, Clodius DUKE OF EAST FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, > Genebald > > | > DUKE > > | > > | OF FRANKS, Dagobert DUKE OF FRANKS, Walter KING OF FRANKS, Clodius > III > > | > KING > > | > > | OF FRANKS, Batherus KING OF FRANKS, Hilderic KING OF FRANKS, Sunno > > | > (Huano) > > | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Farabert KING OF FRANKS, Clodmir IV KING OF > FRANKS, > > | > Marcomer > > | > > | IV KING OF FRANKS, Odomir KING OF FRANKS, Richemer KING OF FRANKS, > > | > Ratherius > > | > > | KING OF FRANKS, Antenor IV KING OF FRANKS, Clodomir III KING OF > > | FRANKS, > > | > > | Marcomer III, CLODIUS II, FRANCUS, ANTHARIUS, CASSANDER, > MEROVACHUS, > > | > > | CLODOMIR II, ANTENOR III, CLODIUS I, MARCOMER II, NICANOR, > CLODOMIR I, > > | > > | Bassanus MAGNUS, DIOCLES, HELENUS I,! > > | > > | > PRIAMUS, ANTENOR, MARCOMIR I, Antenor II KING OF CIMMERIANS, > > | Helenus > > | > IV > > | > > | KING OF CIMMERIANS, Priam IV KING OF CIMMERIANS, Marcomir KING OF > > | > > | CIMMERIANS, Dilulius II KING OF CIMMERIANS, Plaserius III KING OF > > | > > | CIMMERIANS, Helenus III KING OF CIMMERIANS, Dilulius I KING OF > > | > CIMMERIANS, > > | > > | Almadius KING OF CIMMERIANS, Gentilanor KING OF CIMMERIANS, Priam > III > > | > KING > > | > > | OF CIMMERIANS, Alexandre KING OF TROY, Basebelian II KING OF TROY, > > | > Plesron > > | > > | II KING OF TROY, Helenus II KING OF TROY, Priam II KING OF TROY, > > | Antenor > > | > I > > | > > | KING OF TROY, Plaserius II KING OF TROY, Zaberian KING OF TROY, > > | Eliacor > > | > KING > > | > > | OF TROY, Plesron I KING OF TROY, Plaserius I KING OF TROY, > Basabelian > > | I > > | > KING > > | > > | OF TROY, Zelius KING OF TROY, Esdron KING OF TROY, Francus KING OF > > | TROY, > > | > > | Zenter KING OF TROY, Helenus KING OF EPIRUS, Priam KING OF TROY, > > | > Laomedon > > | > > | KING OF TROY, Illus KING OF TROY, Tros KING OF TROY, Erichthonius > KING > > | > OF > > | > > | DARDANIA, Darda KING OF DARDANIA, ZERAH, Judah KING OF GOSHEN, > Jacob > > | > KING OF > > | > > | GOSHEN, ISAAC, ABRAHAM, TERAH, N! 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