My condolences too. Sue Kendal --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 25/01/2001

Dear Angela, Please accept my deepest sympathies on the loss of your father. Jean in Nova Scotia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 1/25/01

I too would like to add my condolences to angela, Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "List Admin" <listowner@btinternet.com> > Hi Dave, > Thanks for letting us know I am sorry to hear of Angela's loss, and > would also like to send her our condolences at this sad time. > > Mike > Admin Northern-England-L@rootsweb.com > http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ > check out Dave's bits & bobs here, > http://212.19.69.91/north/ > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > The aims of this list are to create a comradeship of Northerners and those descendent from Northerners which can be beneficial to tracing the family history of the region. > >

Dear Angela, I also send my deepest sympathy. Cherish your memories, Gail Genereau Appleton, Wisconsin USA

Hi Listers, Here is a freeware calendar program for genealogists. http://octhygesen.homepage.dk/EngDage.html Regards, Glenda

Hi Listers, I just recieved this site address for Genealogy Search Engines For Ancestry Research; hope that it helps. http://www.genealogysearchengines.com/ Best wishes, Glenda

I will endorse that. Jim Sharpe Manchester U K ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Allen <dave@cdcatalogues.co.uk> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 07/mm/01 10:17 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Angela , Cyprus > Hi all, > > I've just heard that Angela from Cyprus is in the UK. Regrettably, it's > because her father died suddenly of a heart attack, and she's here for the > funeral. I'm sure you'll join me in sending Angela our condolences. I > believe she's here till the 14th. > > Dave Allen > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 25-Jan-01 > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Visit the lists Pulse Page here, > http://212.19.69.91/north/ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.227 / Virus Database: 109 - Release Date: 17/01/01

Please add my condolences to Angela and her family at this sad time - sincerely Rosa Hocking

Talking of automatic voice mail, When I contact my current account bank which is Alliance and Leicester, Girobank the drill goes like this: -. Dial bank's tel. number, wait for voice to say 'please press star key' then 'please key in account number' then 'please key in PIN'. At this point a voice usually tells me my balance amount. This last week it hasn't been able to recognise my account and transfers me to a real person after a wait who after certain security checks tells me my balance but has no idea why the automatic teller doesn't work and can't suggest a solution. Furthermore the BT operator couldn't help except to transfer me to Business Lines who again couldn't help. I guess I'll just have to hang on and hope it heals itself. Jim Sharpe Manchester U K ----- Original Message ----- From: <MagsB1942@aol.com> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 07/mm/01 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG]Internet and help lines etc..... > Hi Dave, > > And the other bone of contention......help lines. Don't you just love > hanging on to a phone line and hearing the recorded message say "may we > remind you that .......... online at www........ aaaarrrgh!!!!! I wouldn't > be hanging on the help line if I could have sorted it out > online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the time I get a human voice at the other end I > could strangle my phone.....lol > > Regards, > Maggie > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Add a link to your website here, > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.227 / Virus Database: 109 - Release Date: 17/01/01

To Angela, her Family Below is a poem I always felt some sort of comfort when reading, I hope the message sends comfort to Angela and all others who have lost loved ones too. My Condolences, Sophiee McCooey, Canada The Rose Beyond the Wall A rose once grew where all could see, sheltered beside a garden wall. And as the days passed swiftly by, it spread its branches straight and tall... One day a beam of light shone through a crevice that had opened wide - The rose bent gently towards its warmth then passed beyond to the other side... Now you who deeply feel its loss, be comforted - the rose blooms there - Its beauty even greater now - nurtured by God's own loving care --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 1/25/01

Oh they are good Dave, Maggie

Joe was a clerk in a small drugstore but he was not much of a salesman. He could never find the item the customer wanted. Bob, the owner, had had about enough and warned Joe that the next sale he missed would be his last. Just then a man came in coughing and he asked Joe for their best cough syrup. Try as he might Joe could not find the cough syrup. Remembering Bob's warning he sold the man a box of Ex-Lax and told him to take it all at once. The customer did as Joe said and then walked outside and leaned against a lamp post. Bob had seen the whole thing and came over to ask Joe what had transpired. "He wanted something for his cough but I couldn't find the cough syrup. I substituted Ex-Lax and told him to take it all at once," Joe explained. "Ex-Lax won't cure a cough!" shouted Bob angrily. "Sure it will" Joe said, pointing at the man leaning on the lamp post. "Look at him. He's afraid to cough!" Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

Hi Dave, Thanks for letting us know I am sorry to hear of Angela's loss, and would also like to send her our condolences at this sad time. Mike Admin Northern-England-L@rootsweb.com http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ check out Dave's bits & bobs here, http://212.19.69.91/north/

Hi all, I've just heard that Angela from Cyprus is in the UK. Regrettably, it's because her father died suddenly of a heart attack, and she's here for the funeral. I'm sure you'll join me in sending Angela our condolences. I believe she's here till the 14th. Dave Allen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 25-Jan-01

Regards Dave Two elderly couples were enjoying friendly conversation when one of the men asked the other, "Fred, how was the memory clinic you went to last month?" "Outstanding," Fred replied. "They taught us all the latest psychological techniques-visualization, association-it has made a big difference for me." "That's great! What was the name of that clinic?" Fred went blank. He thought and thought but couldn't remember. Then a smile broke across his face and he asked, "What do you call that flower with the long stem and thorns?" "You mean a rose?" "Yes, that's it!" He turned to his wife..."Rose, what was the name of that clinic?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An expectant mother was being rushed to the hospital, but didn't quite make it. She gave birth to her baby on the hospital lawn. Later, the father received a bill, listing "Delivery Room Fee: $500." He wrote the hospital and reminded them the baby was born on the front lawn. A week passed, and a corrected bill arrived: "Greens Fee: $200." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A man staggers into an emergency room with two black eyes and a five iron wrapped tightly around his throat. Naturally the doctor asks him what happened. "Well, it was like this, said the man. I was having a quiet round of golf with my wife, when she sliced her ball into a pasture of cows." "We went to look for it, and while I was rooting around I noticed one of the cows had something white at its rear end. I walked over and lifted up the tail, and sure enough, there was my wife's golf ball........stuck right in the middle of the cow's butt. That's when I made my mistake." "What did you do?" asks the doctor. "Well, I lifted the tail and yelled to my wife, "Hey, this looks like yours!" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 25-Jan-01

Hi Maggie, I think the biggest problem with help lines is the 50p or £1 per minute jobs ......... It's a strange world where products are almost given away and nobody can afford the staff to provide support ............ Well known script from what used to be my office when ringing the spares department of a well known manufacturer: Welcome to xxxxxxxxxx You are currently 4th in the queue, one of our operators will be with you shortly (music ......................... ) You are still 4th in the queue, we will attend to your call as soon as possible ........ ( more music) You are 5th in the queue ..... one of our operators has retired ........ (repeat until no more music, the line goes dead or hell freezes over) "yes" Can you tell me the price and availability of xxxxxxxxxxx ? "Have you got a part number ?" No, you haven't issued a manual for xxxxxx yet ...... "Sorry can't help you if you haven't got a part number, we haven't got a manual see ...." How do we get a part number then? "You'll have to order a manual (true!) or ring this number - but there are 10 people waiting ........... we close at 4:30 you know ?" Thanks ........ Click! Meanwhile, call from sales "xxxx wants to know why you haven't rung him about the spare part xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ". Tell him the spares manager's been taken away by men in white coats ....... Or by e-mail ........ What happened about that query on xxxxxxxxx I sent 3 weeks ago ? "Sorry mate, the factory in /China/Taiwan/Outer Mongolia/ is closed for xxxxxxxxxxx holiday, won't get an answer till they're back at work, then I'm away for a fortnight on a customer care course." Then there's always the old standby : "sorry, you'll have to ring back - the computer's down again" If I mentioned the brand names - you'd recognise them ! Regards Dave :-) > Hi Dave, > > And the other bone of contention......help lines. Don't you just love > hanging on to a phone line and hearing the recorded message say "may we > remind you that .......... online at www........ aaaarrrgh!!!!! I wouldn't > be hanging on the help line if I could have sorted it out > online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the time I get a human voice at the other end I > could strangle my phone.....lol > > Regards, > Maggie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 25-Jan-01

Hi Maggie, There are plenty of lessons regarding e-mail ! It's strange how, since the Internet, E-mail and Voice Mail, it's become extremely difficult to <talk to> an actual human being ! I rang a company on behalf of client this morning - what did I get ? - voice mail saying "leave a message , our response time is ..... " . I've e-mailed them, wonder what <that> response time is ! Regards Dave > An unemployed man goes to try for a job with Microsoft as a cleaner. > The manager there arranges for an aptitude test (Section: Floors, > sweeping of...). After the test, the manager says: You will be appointed > on the > scale of $30 per day. Let me have your e-mail address, so that I can > send you a form to complete and advise you where to report for work on > your > first day. > [snip] > Moral of the story: > > 1: The Internet, e-mail and e-commerce do not need to rule your life. > 2: Get e-mail, if you want to be a cleaner at Microsoft. > 3: If you don't have e-mail, but work hard, you can still become a > millionaire. > 4: Seeing that you got this story via e-mail, you're probably closer to > > becoming a cleaner than you are to becoming a millionaire. > 5: If you do have a computer and e-mail, you're already being taken to > the cleaners by Micro soft --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 25-Jan-01

Here are stray marriages, etc. Maybe they belong to someone on the list. Jean in NS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hignett" <hignetts@enterprise.net> To: <CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 3:04 PM Subject: [CHS] Various Stragglers > recently i was going through two copies of the Parish Magazine bound > volumes covering the years 1890/91/92 and came across these few `out of > towners` maybe someone may just spot a hole in their wall?? here goes. > > DEc 10th 1889 buriel John PLIMLEY, Hulme Manchester aged 36. > > April 18th 1882 buriel Cadwaladr EVANS of Wolstanton, Staffordshire aged > 83. > > May 15th 1890 Marriage by Rev w.l.Richards > Thomas MORTON, Thornton Hough, Cheshire to > Margaret Ellen WILDE of maesbury. > > June 3rd 1890 Marriage > Francis EVANS of Liverpool to Amelia Maria WHARTON of Oswestry. > > Aug 4th 1890 Marriage > John Frederick BECKINGHAM of Manchester to > Alice Emma COTTON of Oswestry. > > Aug 4th 1890 Marriage > George Bailey HEWITSON of Liverpool to > Elizabeth FIELD of Oswestry. > > Aug 30th 1890 Marriage > Morriss SMITH of Oswestry to Frances Zillah ROBINSON of Liverpool. > > One for our Canadian Friends > July 15th 1890 Marriage > Joseph Eli HUXLEY of Montreal Canada to Mary Cecil ELLIS, mount Oswald, > Oswestry. > > Feb 10th 1891 Marriage > Oliver STEELE, Allerton, Liverpool to Ann PRICE, Trefonen. > > Dec 1st 1891 Marriage by Rev r.f. Markham. > Henry Hornby HOWE of High Compton, Co Lancashire to > Annie VAUGHAN, Gobowen Near Whittington. > > Jan 23rd 1892 Marriage by Rev t. Redfern > Walter Ernest Albert HUNTER of Manchester to > Sarah Ann RICHARDS of Oswestry. > > Apr 19th 1892 Marriage by Rev j.h.Rees > Henry LLOYD of Runcorn and Sophia Jane Griffiths of Coney green. > > June 6th 1892 Marriage > Robert ELLIS of Ellesmere Port, Cheshire to > Mary Jane HUXLEY of St Martins Moors. > > June 15th 1892 Marriage > Joseph BURTON of Horwich, Lancs to Edith Ellen JONES of Berghill > > June 16th 1892 Marriage > Richard WILLIAMS of Earlstown, Lancs to Annie WITHERS of leaton. > > July 25th 1892 Married at st Barnabas` church, Ottowa, Ontario > John James JENKS to Minna G. V. Glasscodine. > > Oct 16th 1892 Baptism at Selattyn > Charlotte Elizabeth, daughter of George and Elizabeth WOODWARD of > Northwich. > > Thats all for now folks > good hunting > mark hignett > hignetts@enterprise.net > > > ==== CHESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cheshire Surnames Interest Directory: > http://www.fhsc.org.uk/surnames/ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 1/25/01

Hi Dave, And the other bone of contention......help lines. Don't you just love hanging on to a phone line and hearing the recorded message say "may we remind you that .......... online at www........ aaaarrrgh!!!!! I wouldn't be hanging on the help line if I could have sorted it out online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the time I get a human voice at the other end I could strangle my phone.....lol Regards, Maggie

An unemployed man goes to try for a job with Microsoft as a cleaner. The manager there arranges for an aptitude test (Section: Floors, sweeping of...). After the test, the manager says: You will be appointed on the scale of $30 per day. Let me have your e-mail address, so that I can send you a form to complete and advise you where to report for work on your first day. Taken back, the unemployed man protests that he is neither in possession of a computer nor of an e-mail address. To this the MS manager replies: Well, then, that really means that you virtually don't exist and can therefore hardly expect to be employed. Stunned, the man leaves. Not knowing where to turn and only having about $10 left, he decides to buy a 10kg box of tomatoes at the supermarket. Within less than 2 hours, he sells the tomatoes singly at 100% profit. Repeating the process several times more that day, he ends up with almost $100 before going to sleep that night. And thus it dawns on the man that he could quite easily make a living selling tomatoes. Getting up early and earlier every day and going to bed late and later, he multiplies his hoard of profits in quite a short time. Not too long thereafter, he acquires a cart to transport several dozen boxes of tomatoes, only to have to trade it in again shortly afterwards on a pick-up truck. By the end of the first year, he is the owner of a fleet of pick-up trucks and manages a staff of several hundred former unemployed people, all selling tomatoes. Considering the future of his wife and children, he decides to buy some life insurance. Calling an insurance adviser, he picks an insurance plan to fit his new circumstances. At the end of the telephone conversation, the adviser asks him for his e-mail address in order that he might forward the documentation. When the man replies that he has no e-mail, the adviser is stunned: What, you don't even have e-mail? How on earth have you managed to amass such wealth without the Internet, e-mail and e-commerce? Just imagine where you would have been by now, if you had been connected from the very start! After a moment's silence, the tomato millionaire replied: Sure! I would have been a cleaner at Microsoft! Moral of the story: 1: The Internet, e-mail and e-commerce do not need to rule your life. 2: Get e-mail, if you want to be a cleaner at Microsoft. 3: If you don't have e-mail, but work hard, you can still become a millionaire. 4: Seeing that you got this story via e-mail, you're probably closer to becoming a cleaner than you are to becoming a millionaire. 5: If you do have a computer and e-mail, you're already being taken to the cleaners by Micro soft