Dear all, May I suggest, that if anyone now suddenly sees the light could they please post it to me off list to give the others an opportunity especially now that I have posted further clues in one on list response. Virtual awards given in say a couple of days First Honours to one for coming forth first with all the correct answers!! Second Hon's to one for also coming first!! Third Hon's for all runners up. A Wooden Spoon may be awarded for sheer entertainment given too? Good luck. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did creating it. Lovely to have us all entering into the spirit of it. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

Dear June, It is not a cryptogram; so sorry, its nothing like that. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

So there is a chance for me....lol Maggie

In a message dated 17/02/01 14:25:58 GMT Standard Time, painter@onetel.net.uk writes: << Superb, on track and very warm, but taken a few wrong turns with some of the lines. You need to rethink your alternatives and apply some, but not all. >> Mikey.....I've haven't even got that far.....but then I don't have a good sense of direction so wrong turns are usual for me...lol Maggie

In a message dated 17/02/01 11:41:40 GMT Standard Time, mm@mmaychell.freeserve.co.uk writes: << You have to inform five different sales people in the same store that you're just browsing. >> But when you are in a hurry and know what you want.......there isn't one in sight. Thanks Marion for those.....I could identify with quite a few.....lol Maggie

Lovely Marion, smiles and chuckles with an odd guffaw. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marion <mm@mmaychell.freeserve.co.uk> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 11:41 AM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Life's little annoyances > You have to try on a pair of sunglasses with that stupid > little plastic thing in the middle of them. > > The person behind you in the supermarket runs his cart > into the back of your ankle. > > The elevator stops on every floor and nobody gets on. > > There's always a car riding your tail when you're slowing > down to find an address. > > You open a can of soup and the lid falls in. > > It's bad enough that you step in dog poop, but you don't > realize it till you walk across your living room rug. > > The tiny red string on the Band-Aid wrapper never works > for you. > > There's a dog in the neighborhood that barks at > EVERYTHING. > > You can never put anything back in a box the way it > came. > > Three hours and three meetings after lunch you look in > the mirror and discover a piece of parsley stuck to > your front tooth. > > You drink from a soda can into which someone has > extinguished a cigarette. > > You slice your tongue licking an envelope. > > Your tire gauge lets out half the air while you're > trying to get a reading. > > A station comes in brilliantly when you're standing > near the radio but buzzes, drifts and spits every > time you move away. > > There are always one or two ice cubes that won't > pop out of the tray. > > You wash a garment with a tissue in the pocket and > your entire laundry comes out covered with lint. > > The car behind you blasts its horn because you let > a pedestrian finish crossing. > > A piece of foil candy wrapper makes electrical > contact with your filling. > > You set the alarm on your digital clock for 7pm > instead of 7am. > > The radio station doesn't tell you who sang that > song. > > You rub on hand cream and can't turn the bathroom > doorknob to get out. > > People behind you on a supermarket line dash ahead > of you to a counter just opening up. > > Your glasses slide off your ears when you perspire. > > You can't look up the correct spelling of a word in > the dictionary because you don't know how to spell > it. > > You have to inform five different sales people in > the same store that you're just browsing. > > You had that pen in your hand only a second ago and > now you can't find it. > > You reach under the table to pick something off the > floor and smash your head on the way up. > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list in mail mode send a message to > NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains the word unsubscribe and nothing else. > If you are in digest mode, then send the command instead to > NORTHERN-ENGLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com >

You have to try on a pair of sunglasses with that stupid little plastic thing in the middle of them. The person behind you in the supermarket runs his cart into the back of your ankle. The elevator stops on every floor and nobody gets on. There's always a car riding your tail when you're slowing down to find an address. You open a can of soup and the lid falls in. It's bad enough that you step in dog poop, but you don't realize it till you walk across your living room rug. The tiny red string on the Band-Aid wrapper never works for you. There's a dog in the neighborhood that barks at EVERYTHING. You can never put anything back in a box the way it came. Three hours and three meetings after lunch you look in the mirror and discover a piece of parsley stuck to your front tooth. You drink from a soda can into which someone has extinguished a cigarette. You slice your tongue licking an envelope. Your tire gauge lets out half the air while you're trying to get a reading. A station comes in brilliantly when you're standing near the radio but buzzes, drifts and spits every time you move away. There are always one or two ice cubes that won't pop out of the tray. You wash a garment with a tissue in the pocket and your entire laundry comes out covered with lint. The car behind you blasts its horn because you let a pedestrian finish crossing. A piece of foil candy wrapper makes electrical contact with your filling. You set the alarm on your digital clock for 7pm instead of 7am. The radio station doesn't tell you who sang that song. You rub on hand cream and can't turn the bathroom doorknob to get out. People behind you on a supermarket line dash ahead of you to a counter just opening up. Your glasses slide off your ears when you perspire. You can't look up the correct spelling of a word in the dictionary because you don't know how to spell it. You have to inform five different sales people in the same store that you're just browsing. You had that pen in your hand only a second ago and now you can't find it. You reach under the table to pick something off the floor and smash your head on the way up.

Thank you Marion. I will look into it. j.c. -----Original Message----- From: Marion [mailto:mm@mmaychell.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 4:09 AM To: NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Carse Search I noticed some CARSE queries at genforum, you probably already aware of them but here they are anyway, better to have double info than none LOL http://genforum.genealogy.com/carse/messages/1.html TTFN Marion ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== Visit the lists Pulse Page here, http://212.19.69.91/north/

William CARSE is as far back as I have, and if it wasn't for the wife. I would never have got that bit of info. William Carse , born 1745 in Longframlington, Northumberland, England; The reason I'am on other list is because. I would like to know if my family is from Ireland or scotland.

Hi all. I'am new at this , so please give me a break, if I make a few mistakes. I'am looking for info on the name CARSE Thank you. P.S. I'll be adding a web page in a few days to my signature. Jim

Hi Pauline, welcome. I don't suppose any of your mob ever worked at Bradford Colliery. Jim Sharpe Manchester U K ----- Original Message ----- From: Pauline Kirschner <quercus@nex.net.au> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15/mm/01 8:50 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Just to say hello > Hi > > My parents were born at Manchester, Walter Edward LEGGOTT, married Bertha ETTENFIELD. I, and my siblings were also born at Manchester. We're a bit scattered now though. I'm researching both sides of my family. I've got quite a bit of info on the Leggott side, (found to my surprise that they were originally from Lincs), but am having difficulty with the ETTENFIELD's. I can't find anything beyond grandparents but I keep looking and asking. > My husband, children and I came to Australia in 1969. The children are grown up now and I have two grandchildren. The children all live in various suburbs of Melbourne while we live in this most beautiful area of Gippsland which is south east of Melbourne, about 100 kms. Green and beautiful usually. At the moment it's a bit dry and hot but then it is summer! Wonthaggi used to be a mining town but our last remaining coal mine is now a tourist mine - where we are volunteers. > > Best wishes from Oz > Pauline Kirschner (nee Leggott) > Wonthaggi, Victoria > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Visit the lists Pulse Page here, > http://212.19.69.91/north/ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 12/02/01

Hi My parents were born at Manchester, Walter Edward LEGGOTT, married Bertha ETTENFIELD. I, and my siblings were also born at Manchester. We're a bit scattered now though. I'm researching both sides of my family. I've got quite a bit of info on the Leggott side, (found to my surprise that they were originally from Lincs), but am having difficulty with the ETTENFIELD's. I can't find anything beyond grandparents but I keep looking and asking. My husband, children and I came to Australia in 1969. The children are grown up now and I have two grandchildren. The children all live in various suburbs of Melbourne while we live in this most beautiful area of Gippsland which is south east of Melbourne, about 100 kms. Green and beautiful usually. At the moment it's a bit dry and hot but then it is summer! Wonthaggi used to be a mining town but our last remaining coal mine is now a tourist mine - where we are volunteers. Best wishes from Oz Pauline Kirschner (nee Leggott) Wonthaggi, Victoria

An elderly couple were driving across the country. The woman was driving when she got pulled over by the highway patrol. The officer said, "Ma'am did you know you were speeding?" The woman turned to her husband and asked, "What did he say?" The patrolman said, "May I see your license?" The woman turned to her husband and asked, "What did he say?" The old man yelled, "He wants to see your license!" The patrolman said, "I see you are from Arkansas. I spent some time there once and went on a blind date with the ugliest woman I've ever seen." The woman turns to her husband and asks, "What did he say?" The old man yelled, "He thinks he knows you!" Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

Hi Dave! Good jokes! Thank you for sharing. I didn't get to read my mail till now, haven't been able to for a few days & am working my way through them. Only thing, I tend to work backwards. It must be the late hour here in the states. Becky (Hall) Cole Researching: Brewer, Brewster, Clark(e), Hall, Kile, Launder, Legg, Moon, Pickup, Wonsey, Wyckoff, Cole, Sheffer, Piette Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.232 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 2/12/01

Mikey! This one & the presidential suicide----funny! Lightened up an otherwise down evening. Thanks. Becky (Hall) Cole Researching: Brewer, Brewster, Clark(e), Hall, Kile, Launder, Legg, Moon, Pickup, Wonsey, Wyckoff, Cole, Sheffer, Piette Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.232 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 2/12/01

Hi Folks, I asked my gallery owner today if there had been any interest in my paintings that he has had on show. "I have good news and bad news," he replied. "The good news is that a gentleman was very interested in your work and wondered if I thought it would appreciate in value after your death. I told him it most certainly would & he bought all of your paintings, 20 of them." I said, "Wow, that's fantastic!". "What's the bad news?" "The gentleman was your Doctor." <VBG> Iv'e, sent mail out, taken the rubbish out and dog out, been out, driven flat out, got in and out, walked in and out, taken books out, sorted out, thinned out, drank out, eaten out & got blown out, written out, paid out, turned pockets inside out, Bank account is without, didnt fall out, counted out, talked out and read out, worn out & stoves out. I'm IN, so out to crash out before I pass out. Lights out. Over and out. Luckily no Cat! Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

One day a Marine colonel was on his way home from work at the Pentagon came to a dead halt in traffic and thought to himself, "Wow, this traffic seems worse than usual. Nothing's even moving." He notices a police officer walking back and forth between the lines of cars so he rolls down his window and asks, "Excuse me, Officer what's the hold up?" The Officer replies, "The President is just so depressed about all the problems going on that he stopped his motorcade in the middle of the Highway and he's threatening to douse himself in gasoline and set himself on fire. He says his family hates him and he doesn't have the $33.5 million he owes his lawyers. I'm walking round taking up a collection for him." "Oh really? How much have you collected so far?" "So far only about a hundred gallons but I've got a lot of folks still siphoning." Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

regards Dave After leaving the oval office for the last time, Bill Clinton was seated next to an elderly priest on his flight to New York. Because of a minor technical problem, the pilot announced that the airline was offering a free round of drinks as an apology. When the charming flight attendant came by, Clinton ordered a double scotch. He leaned back with his drink as the attendant asked the priest if he would like a drink. "Oh, no thank you," replied the priest. "I would rather commit adultery than drink alcohol." Choking on his swallow of scotch, Clinton quickly put his drink back on the beverage cart. "Excuse me, miss, I didn't know we had a choice." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hank was a not too smart kind of guy. Everyday when he walked home from work, he would get stopped by three nasty men and they would beat him up and steal his money. Finally, Hank decided that it would serve his best interest to walk a different route and then take up some self-defense classes so this wouldn't happen again. He joined a karate class and soon was doing very well to defend himself. So, one day, on the way home from work Hank took his old route home and sure enough there they were. He walked up to them and the battle ensued. The next afternoon Hank went to his karate class with a black eye, a broken nose and a busted lip. His instructor, shocked, asked him what happened. "Well," explained Hank, "I took my old way home last night so I could beat these guys up who were stealing my money, but they beat me up before I could get my shoes and socks off!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- A guy walks into a post office one day to see a middle-aged, balding man standing at the counter methodically placing "Love" stamps on bright pink envelopes with hearts all over them. He then takes out a perfume bottle and starts spraying scent all over them. His curiosity getting the better of him, he goes up to the balding man and asks him what he is doing. The man says "I'm sending out 1,000 Valentine cards signed, 'Guess who?'" "But why?" asks the man. "I'm a divorce lawyer," the man replies. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 12-Feb-01

Hi Pauline Welcome ! There are 58 Ettenfields listed on the IGI ( ttp://www.familysearch.org ) - 3 or 4 are Manchester latest being 1851. Might be worth a look. There are 7 Ettenfields on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com including a couple from Salford. I take it you haven't found your grandparents marriage , which should give you their fathers names ? Regards Dave Strangely it's been sunny here for 2 days now ......... ( UK that is ! ) > Hi > > My parents were born at Manchester, Walter Edward LEGGOTT, married Bertha ETTENFIELD. I, and my siblings were also born at Manchester. We're a bit scattered now though. I'm researching both sides of my family. I've got quite a bit of info on the Leggott side, (found to my surprise that they were originally from Lincs), but am having difficulty with the ETTENFIELD's. I can't find anything beyond grandparents but I keep looking and asking. > My husband, children and I came to Australia in 1969. The children are grown up now and I have two grandchildren. The children all live in various suburbs of Melbourne while we live in this most beautiful area of Gippsland which is south east of Melbourne, about 100 kms. Green and beautiful usually. At the moment it's a bit dry and hot but then it is summer! Wonthaggi used to be a mining town but our last remaining coal mine is now a tourist mine - where we are volunteers. > > Best wishes from Oz > Pauline Kirschner (nee Leggott) > Wonthaggi, Victoria --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 12-Feb-01

The Missing Soup Ladle. Karl invited his mother over for dinner. During the meal, his mother eyed his beautiful roommate. Suspicious that there was more than just a "roommate" situation going on. Karl saw her staring at Ellen. "I know what you're thinking, mom, but Ellen and I are just friends." A week later, Ellen said, "Karl, ever since your mother came to dinner, I can't find the silver soup ladle. Surely she wouldn't have taken it, would she?" "I really don't think so," Karl replied. "I'll write her a letter to ask, though." He got a sheet of paper, sat down, and wrote: "Dear Mom, I'm not saying you took our silver soup ladle, and I'm not saying you didn't take it. But our soup ladle has been missing ever since you came to dinner." A few days later, he received a reply from his mother. "Dear son, I'm not saying that you're sleeping with Ellen, and I'm not saying that you're not sleeping with Ellen. But if she were sleeping in her own bed, she would have found the soup ladle by now. Love, Mom." Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.