Hi Sophie, I dont think he ate those being a man of discernment, tho one never knows!!:-)) A worm would be classed as meat. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo. ----- Original Message ----- From: SOPHIEE <2sophiee@home.com> To: Mikey <painter@onetel.net.uk> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Old country ways with words!! > Neither Furred nor Feathered > Tis not scaled nor leathered > Nor was it either Fish or Meat > > My first thought was a human, but how about an earth worm? (what a combonation of thoughts!) > Soph > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 2/12/01 >

After reading recently some discussion about digital still cameras and noting that some are quite satisfied with the performance of quite low resolution and therefore cheap cameras for ordinary snap photography and indeed copying of original documents I have been looking at cameras in catalogues. If I go into a shop I usually end up paying more than I had intended. I've sorted out the following: - JENOPTIC 350 £99.50 350,000 pixels MPEG movie 8 Mb internal memory --- LCD display --- Optical viewfinder --- Fixed focus lens --- Auto exposure --- Flash with auto, fill, off and red eye reduction modes --- 10-second self timer --- Tripod mount --- Serial or USB interface (cables supplied) --- Complete with batteries, case and imaging software. £119 for above with 28 fps video mode. Kodak EZ 200 £99 640X480 pixcel resolution. Internal memory stores up to 128 pictures. Capture 10 second video clips. Make live video conferencing calls. Create personalised video with audio. Burst capture. USB connectivity. Polaroid Photomax. 640 £129.99 640X480 pixcel 1.8 inch colour LCD display monitor 2Mb internal memory Built in flash Includes photo editing software and cables to make a complete digital imaging kit. I know very little about the digital photography but I appreciate the different quality that people require but I want a bog standard camera which will give 'snap' quality pictures with *perhaps* the added facility of producing digital copies of original documents. I will value any discussion about these particular cameras because I want to be as sure as is humanly possible that I don't buy a white elephant. I have in the past had a surfeit of white elephants. TYIA. Jim Sharpe 10374 Manchester U K --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 12/02/01

>From Missing Links, Rootsweb Review, [In ML 6:6, New Zealand's Anna Kerr started things off with: Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we first marry and conceive. Readers thus inspired responded as follows. Eds.] Oh, much greater still the fright If first we fail our troth to plight. David Leggett David.Leggett@fns.usda.gov And knottier still the twisted thread If we conceive and never wed. Oscar Turnill, Twickenham, England oscar@turnill.freeserve.co.uk But when conceived and never married, Turns out "Gramps" is Uncle Harry. Great-grandma Maggie lived on boats, But made a fortune raising goats. Grandma Kate married Ed; His brother, Joe, shared her bed. Dad thought his "real name" was Lowry, but it turns out he's half Maori. Mom would roll over in her grave if she knew about Uncle Dave. The family's history got so wild I can't explain it to my child! (With apologizes to my ancestors for poking fun at them.) Annie, San Francisco, California, USA amp@transbay.net * * * * * HUMOR. Thanks to Bruce Gamble brgamble@voyager.co.nz , who writes from New Zealand, "Here's a bit of doggerel, apropos of our interest, that my grandmother used to recite." It wasn't the cough that carried him off, it was the coffin they carried him off in. * * * * * >From Missing Links Rootsweb Review Vol. 6, #7. Jean in Nova Scotia jphwhite@ns.sympatico.ca --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 1/25/01

Dear Folks, The line, "Now Michael cast this one!", should have read: Now Michael cast into this one! Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

I need help. My records show that gr'gr'grandmother Mary Ann was born in Rothean, Eng. Sept 1812. Can anyone tell me where it is? Or is it really Rotherham, & if so, where is it located. All help greatly appreciated. Searching for: Crothers/ Carothers/ Crowthers & other variations of same name. Elaine McBride Chester Co. Pa. U.S.A.

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Dear all, Thanks for your appreciation. It has encouraged me to compose a quick one for a bit of fun along the same lines. What Am I? II. Clues: It is not coloured like some Ladies bra's but is similar. I am found amidst 24". Now in cities often too. I work like a fence. Bin said I can travel on oats. Now here I am. In short can be placed before a disk. My second is a cartoon single spec. Afore the Forth is the head of the river. My fourth was seen on Caps. My fifths simply rhymes with me. First word's ending is my third. My alpha is a part of coast. My sec'd at times go's before h. Now Michael cast this one! And this my fourth makes two. An agreement sounded. Finally maybe short for you. MJWC 19.2.2001. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

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I will send out the answer at say 11am Tues here UK time. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

Dear Friends, A litle riddle was once posed to me by a lovely old man, a Shepherd by the name of Ken. I worked very happily with him on the same 2000 acre Kent farm for several years. He spent his entire life in the country and there was no food he had not at one time drunk or eaten. He lived a rich simple life; my current Sheepdog Hey is a descendant of one that was a gift to me from him out of a lovely pair of his. Between us one weekend we travelled a total of 754 miles to aquire them. He asked me the riddle one late summers harvest day as we were tippling Ken Cramps notorious double fermented 13% Kent Cider called "Double Vision". He was full of little sayings. One was: Beer on Cider makes a good rider, Cider on beer makes you feel queer. How very true!:-)) I never saw him without a smile. I have tried to recall & reconstucted the Riddle as this. One day walking in the fields On my strolls I discovered Something very good to eat. . Neither Furred nor Feathered Tis not scaled nor leathered Nor was it either Fish or Meat Was niether vegetable nor Fruit Not a Herb, Seed, Nut nor Fungi, What was it I took home to eat? Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

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Hi Dave Thanks for the bits and bobs - nice when the genealogy bits are stressing me out. Still looking for any ETTENFIELD relatives in Manchester area. My mother's name was Bertha ETTENFIELD, her father Joseph ETTENFIELD, mother Annie Elizabeth LEWIS. Haven't had ANY success with Annie Elizabeth LEWIS, except hundreds of emails from USA! I doubt my grandmother went further than the local village never mind the USA. Regards Pauline

Dear Glenda, Congratulations you are home first with the correct word ahead of all on both web lists answering What I am. The answers to the first 3 lines are ingenious and put you on the right track but not right it being in itself a seperate puzzle!? If you give it further thought and unite them with an aspect relating to your correct answer perhaps then you will see as it was intended it gives different answers to all the others! Every line has its own answer. You just need now the remaining 3 Also tho your 9th letter is correct once again for another reason, perhaps if you 'read' the clue very slowly & try to see what you could hear, you will get it!!:-)) I liked very much your additional speculative insight into the 9th letter giving the additional possibility of an answer of three letters. However as you have so quickly discerned and correctly deduced all have only one. Brilliant, a wonderful bit of deduction. With very best wishes. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

Hi Maggie, Yeah it seems these little things are sent to try us LOL <<<<But when you are in a hurry and know what you want.......there isn't one in sight. Thanks Marion for those.....I could identify with quite a few.....lol

I noticed some CARSE queries at genforum, you probably already aware of them but here they are anyway, better to have double info than none LOL http://genforum.genealogy.com/carse/messages/1.html TTFN Marion

Hi Clive, Welcome to tthe list, I see MACHELL among your interests, I have a few MAYCHELL which may have come from MACHELL but havent got very far back, you can see my Maychell at , http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~capstick/html/names2.htm#Mayc hell TTFN Marion CAPSTICK, BENTHAM,SEDGWICK, BANNISTER,CHRISTON, Yorkshire MAYCHELL / MACHELL, Lancaster OMARA (MARA),NOLAN,Ireland. TANIAN,COPLEY, Ireland & India http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~capstick/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~capstick/html/surnames.htm

Hi everyone Just subscribed to this list. I would like to make contact with anyone who may have an interest in any of the following with a view to exchanging information. BALL Tarleton e1770 BEARDSWORTH Little Hoole e1648 BERRY Askrigg, YKS e1784 BIRKBECK Grinton, YKS e1770 BIRTWISTLE Padiham e1160 BOLTON Leyland e1761 BUSHBY Aysgarth, YKS e1806 COATES Askrigg, YKS e1786 COATES Bolton Castle Cum Redmire, YKS e1769 COATES Grassington, YKS e1749 COLLISON / COLLINSON Clayton Le Dale, Nr Blackburn e1808 CROSS(E) Penwortham e1683 DEATH Edwardstone, SFK e1786 EMMOT Burnley c1840 FRYER Low Row, Swaledale, YKS e1731 GARDNER Upper Rawcliffe e1814 HAMAN/HAIMAN/HAMMONDS Stepney, London e1803 HARGREAVES Padiham e1800 HARRISON Bretherton e1660 HARTLEY Higham, nr Padiham e1786 HARTLEY Marsden e1841 HEAP Worsthorne, nr Burnley e1838 HESELTINE/HESLETINE Newbiggin, YKS e1797 HODGON/HODGSON Ribbleton, Preston e1841 HORN Padiham e1761 IBBOTSON Preston e1806 JOHNSON Bretherton e1789 MACHELL Grinton e1739 MARGISON/MARGINSON * Samlesbury e1751 MARSDEN Eccleston e1761 METCALFE Askrigg, YKS e1786 MILNER/MILLER Askrigg, YKS e1756 MOOR(E) Aysgarth, YKS e1803 MOORHOUSE Padiham e1786 MORPHIT/MORFITT Grassington, YKS e1735 MORRY North Wingfield, DBY e1840 MOSSE Much Hoole e1650 OSBORNE Edwardstone, SFK e1786 PARKER Grassington, YKS e1710 PICKLES Grassington c1712 PORTER Upper Rawcliffe (St Michael¹s on Wyre) e1792 POTTER Preston e1813 ROBERTS Higham, Nr Padiham e1800 ROSE Eccleston e1767 SKEATS Stepney, London e1803 TALBOTT/TALBOT Walton le Dale, Preston e1784 TATTERSALL Burnley e1868 TAYLOR Croston? e1791 TAYLOR Hesketh with Becconsall e1775 TERRY Askrigg, YKS e1727 TOMLINSON Bainbridge, YKS e1805 TOWNSEND Preston e1813 WENSLEY Bolton Cum Redmire, YKS e1770 WETHERALD/WETHERELT Askrigg, YKS e1727 WILKINS Hutton e1744 WILKINSON Padiham e1741 WILKINSON North Wingfield, DBY e1840 WILSON Tarleton e1843 * or MARGESON / MARGERISON Clive Hodgson clive.hodgson@btinternet.com

Hello Everyone, Just wanted to say welcome to our new subscribers and encourage you all to post your interests in the region. Don't forget to visit the list web page and Dave's bits and bobs pages URLs below. This list is different from some genealogy lists in that this list also allows Trivia postings as well as serious genealogy research postings, it also encourages posters who are maybe not yet researching there family tree but who live in or have an insight into the region or are looking for living relatives/friends they may have lost touch with. Mike Admin Northern-England-L@rootsweb.com http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ check out Dave's bits & bobs here, http://212.19.69.91/north/

Hi all, Thomas Seward wrote and published a poem called "Jesus". The author was what may be described as a liberal in a high church conservative Petworth during the second half of the nineteenth century. Seward was very much involved in the establishment and subsequent management of a local working man's institute and went to great lengths to promote free libraries for the masses. As far as Petworth is concerned Seward and his poem are of immense importance. I am trying to solve the riddle of his pseudonym, T.O.O.N. and trace a copy of the Poem for a gentleman, Miles of Petworth. Does any one know of this Poem please and especially have a copy they could kindly forward to me. Many thanks. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

Hi Richard et al, Superb, on track and very warm, but taken a few wrong turns with some of the lines. You need to rethink your alternatives and apply some, but not all. "(A... or L if you're making a Hebrew pun.)" I 'Bet', it is not, 'ombre, I, lef-t, Hebrew out! "Ay is fer orses" & "ell is fer leather!" Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.