Hi everyone I am hoping that SKS may be able to assist me with a census lookup. I am looking for Thomas and Mary Whorlton somewhere around the Stockton, Durham area. Thomas would have been 42 and Mary 30 in 1841. Any year of the census would do. I am trying to establish exactly who my ancestors parents are and hope this may help as I have a great deal of conflicting information. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Suzanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hello Gang Can someone please define the difference or meanings of Liverpudlian's and Scousers? Curious me, Soph --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 2/12/01

<<Any RIDLEY or COLLINSON connections ?>> No sorry but the folks who recently moved in next door are called Ridley :-)))) TTFN Marion

Hi all, My cousin ( bless him ) has just rung with some new names for the family tree: William BRYAN born 29th July 1844 ( gg grandfather ) Parents William BRYAN ( son of Henry Bryan below ) and Isabella RIDLEY Ann BRYAN ( daughter of Henry BRYAN ( ggg grandfather ) and Mary BROWN ) married Robert COLLINSON on 24th May 1840 Monkwearmouth ( Sunderland ). Any RIDLEY or COLLINSON connections ? Regards Dave. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 12-Feb-01

> Einstein dies and goes to heaven. At the Pearly Gates, Saint >> > Peter tells him, "You look like Einstein, but you have NO idea the >> > lengths that some people will go to to sneak into Heaven. Can you >> > prove who you really are?" >> > >> > Einstein ponders for a few seconds and asks, "Could I have a blackboard >> > and some chalk?" >> > >> > Saint Peter snaps his fingers and a blackboard and chalk instantly >> > appear. Einstein proceeds to describe with arcane mathematics and >> > symbols his theory of relativity. >> > >> > Saint Peter is suitably impressed. "You really ARE Einstein!" he says. >> > "Welcome to heaven!" >> > >> > The next to arrive is Picasso. Once again, Saint Peter asks for >> > credentials. >> > >> > Picasso asks, "Mind if I use that blackboard and chalk?" >> > >> > Saint Peter says, "Go ahead." >> > >> > Picasso erases Einstein's equations and sketches a truly stunning mural >> > with just a few strokes of chalk. >> > >> > Saint Peter claps. "Surely you are the great artist you claim to be!" >> > he says. "Come on in!" >> > >> > Then Saint Peter looks up and sees George W. Bush. Saint Peter >> > scratches his head and says, "Einstein and Picasso both managed to >> > prove their identity. How can you prove yours?" >> > >> > George W. looks bewildered and says, "Who are Einstein and Picasso?" >> > >> > Saint Peter sighs and says, "Come on in, George." Jean in Nova Scotia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 1/25/01

Hummingbird? Jean in NS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mikey" <painter@onetel.net.uk> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Puzzle sort of? > What bird can fly backwards? > Not the Oomigoolie Bird either!:-)) > One for real! > > Regards, > > Mikey. > Spectemur Agendo. > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > An alternative mailing list for genealogy research in > Northern England, this list covers the whole of the North of England > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.230 / Virus Database: 111 - Release Date: 1/25/01

Hi For the last few years I have been researching WENSLEY families from Hebden near Grassington, and Grinton in North Yorkshire. My interest is in the following: Thomas Henry WENSLEY (1906-79) married Amelia Miller John Thomas WENSLEY (1871-1920) married Christiana Hartley. Higham, Lancashire, then Bradshaw, Bolton. Richard WENSLEY (1829-1901) married 1. Hannah Grange and (2) Jane Bushby. Coldstones then Higham, Lancashire Robert WENSLEY (1806-70) married Sarah Parker. Hebden, Nr Grassington, North Yorks Charles WENSLEY (1770- ) married Nelly Birkbeck. Grinton, North Yorks It then gets a little uncertain but I suspect the following may be related: Ralph WENSLEY married Jane Coates (Thought to have been Charles's parents) Robert WENSLEY married Ann ?. Grinton, North Yorks (Thought to have been Ralph's parents) Charles WENSLEY (1653-ca.85) married Debrah ?. Grinton, North Yorks(Thought to have been Robert's parents) Thomas Henry and John Thomas were farmers; Richard, Robert, and Charles were blacksmiths. I have quite a lot of information connected to the above which I will gladly pass on to any one with a shared interest. I would also be pleased to hear from anyone with information on WENSLEY's from the North Yorkshire area particularly those around Grinton and Bolton Castle Cum Redmire. Clive clive.hodgson@btinternet.com Researching: HODGSON, Preston, LAN WENSLEY, Grinton, NRY DEATH, Shoreditch, LND HARTLEY, Higham, LAN MILLER or MILNER, Askrigg, NRY

Hi I have only recently subscribed to this list and wondered if anyone can help with the following: Trying to find more information about a James HODGSON, thought to have been born circa 1783, possibly Wigan, Lancashire, although he appears to have spent most of his life in Preston, Lancashire. He was at Ribbleton Lane, Preston when he died 27 October 1851 and on his death certificate his age was given as 68. His occupation was brickmaker. Have not been able to find him on 1851 Census with any degree of certainty although there was the following person at Ribbleton Street, Preston. James Hodgson Visitor U 60 General Labourer Wigan He was known to have been a widow in 1851 having been married to someone called Ann. Assuming that the details on the census regarding his marital status and age were shown incorrectly this could be the person I am looking for. This is also why I say he may possibly have been born in Wigan. I would very much like to hear from anyone who thinks they may have some information on this person. Clive clive.hodgson@btinternet.com Researching: HODGSON, Preston, LAN WENSLEY, Grinton, NRY DEATH, Shoreditch, LND HARTLEY, Higham, LAN

What bird can fly backwards? Not the Oomigoolie Bird either!:-)) One for real! Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

The answer is, an egg or eggs. In his case it was Partidges eggs as were the ones I ate from a garden in Suffolk. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

eyeyeyeyeh...I'm getting a migraine, but yet still addicted to thoughts! Smiles, Soph --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 2/12/01

The hummingbird. I watch them all summer long at our cottage in northern Wisconsin. They are beautiful and fun to watch. But oh, so quick! Gail in Wisconsin genereau@vbe.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mikey <painter@onetel.net.uk> > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:23 AM > Subject: [NTH-ENG] Puzzle sort of? > > > > What bird can fly backwards? > > Not the Oomigoolie Bird either!:-)) > > One for real! > > > > Regards, > > > > Mikey. > > Spectemur Agendo. > >

Another good one Glenda...thanks. Maggie

Thanks Glenda....they are great. I like a play on words...makes the brain work...lol Maggie

>Old country ways with words!! Hi Mikey, Would the answer be grain ? Regards, >Old country ways with words!! Hi Mikey, Would the answer be grain ? Regards, Glenda

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Wow, you are one Elaine! Now that is an interesting thing for me to think about! No, but how does one define Honey? You are getting me into deep water where I cant swim!!:-)) It also, as others suggestions have done, reminded me yet again of other lines to the original riddle! They were along the lines of: I looked down, saw somthing on the ground I picked it up and put it in my Jacket pocket. So! Many thanks for pushing me! I hope you will not get angry with me when I give the answer in 9 hrs!!! I dont wish to confuse you but a Clue: A common question/puzzle which they think is a paradox, that people often pose, I give the answer, "Niether A Lizard."!! Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo. ----- Original Message -----

Cheers Glenda, Some beauties amongst those. They gave me great chuckles and laughs, thanks. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo. ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda R. Wilson <wrwgrw@earthlink.net> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:57 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Daffynitions > >DAFFYNITIONS, > > >~ Allege: A rocky platform on a mountain > >~ Arbitrator: A cook that leaves Arby's to work at McDonald's > >~ Arson: Our daughter's brother > >~ Autobiography: A history of cars > >~ Avoidable: What a bullfighter tries to do > >~ Backward: Patient rooms at the rear of a hospital > >~ Baloney: Where some hemlines fall > >~ Bassinet: What every fisherman wants > >~ Belong: To take your time > >~ Bernadette: The act of torching a mortgage > >~ Brain: The apparatus with which we think that we think > >~ Budget: A method for going broke methodically > >~ Burglarize: What a crook sees with > >~ Carpet: A dog that enjoys riding in an automobile > >~ Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular > >~ Coffee: Break fluid > >~ Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage > >~ Condescend: A prisoner escaping down the wall using a rope > >~ Consciousness: that annoying time between naps > >~ Control: A short, ugly inmate > >~ Counterfeiters: Workers who put together kitchen cabinets > >~ Democracy: Four wolves and a lamb voting on lunch > >~ Diplomacy: The art of letting other people have your own way > >~ Document: Repeating what your doctor told you in your own words > >~ Dogma: A mother dog > >~ Eclipse: What a gardener does to your hedge > >~ Eyedropper: A clumsy ophthalmologist > >~ Fairy Tale: A horror story to prepare children for the newspapers > >~ Falsehood: Someone who pretends to be a gangster > >~ Fission: What Huck Finn did when he played hookey > >~ Flashlight: A case for holding dead batteries > >~ Flattery: Phony express > >~ Grateful: What it takes to build a good fire > >~ Ground beef: A cow with no legs > >~ Handicap: A ready-to-use hat > >~ Hanging: A suspended sentence > >~ Hari-Kari: Transporting a wig > >~ Heroes: What a guy in a boat does > >~ Hunger: What the posse did to the lady rustler > >~ Hypothesis: What a boy says to his father on the telephone > >~ Intense: Where campers sleep > >~ Jury: People who determine which client has the best lawyer > >~ Laughing stock: Cattle with a sense of humor. > >~ Laundress: A gown worn while sitting on the grass > >~ Left Bank: What the robber did when his bag was full of loot > >~ Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. > >~ Midget: Center engine of a three-engine fast plane > >~ Minimum: A very small mother > >~ Misty: How golfers create divots > >~ Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once > >~ Nitrate: Cheapest price for calling long distance > >~ Observatory: What George Washington asked his spies to do > >~ Pandemonium: A housing development for pandas > >~ Paradise: Ivory cubes used in craps and backgammon > >~ Paradox: Two physicians > >~ Paraffins: Found on the sides of fish > >~ Paralyze: Two untruths > >~ Parasites: What you see from the top of the Eiffel Tower > >~ Pharmacist: A helper on the farm > >~ Polynesia: memory loss in parrots > >~ Primate: Removing your spouse from in front of the TV > >~ Rampage: Section of a book about male sheep > >~ Relief: What trees do in the spring > >~ Selfish: What the owner of a seafood store does > >~ Sesame: A seed useful for opening caves > >~ Sherbet: A tip on a horse race or sporting event > >~ Shin: A device for finding furniture in the dark > >~ Skier: A person who jumps to contusions > >~ Sleet: A slipcover > >~ Stirrup: What you do with cake batter > >~ Subsidy: A town underneath another town > >~ Suburbia: where they tear out the trees and then name streets after > them > >~ Sudafed: Brought litigation against a government official > >~ Sweater: A garment worn by a child when the mother feels chilly > >~ Teenager: An adolescent whose hang-ups do not include his clothes > >~ Teenagers: People who express their desire to be different by dressing > >alike > >~ Tenure: A year after nineure > >~ Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary > >~ Thursday: How you feel crossing the desert on a hot day > >~ Trapeziod: A device for catching zoids > >~ Unabated: A fishhook without a worm > >~ Valorous: A big animal vit tusks vot lives in vater > >~ Vanguard: A person who protects trucks > >~ Violinist: A high-strung musician > >~ Warehouse: What you ask when you are lost > >~ Wholesale: Where a gopher goes to buy a home > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Add a link to your website here, > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 >

Lovely Jean, Many thanks most enjoyable. Regards, Mikey. Spectemur Agendo.

Thanks for the input d. very interesting. Pitman would cover everyone in the pit. Miner would be anyone concerned with actually working in the districts, even development workers who keep the faces accessible. Colliers are specifically coal getters or winners who work at the coal face. A miner can be a collier, a packer, a ripper, a back ripper, a foot rider or dinter. The other jobs are haulage hand and Tunneller who drove level tunnels through solid rock to access the coal seams. Then there are the executive grades beginning with shot lighter or fireman, then pit deputy, overman, undermanager and at the top the pit manager. There are also not by any means least electricians, engineers, pipe fitters and and their executive grades and locomotive engine drivers because a big pit would have extensive electric underground railway system. Jim Sharpe Manchester U K ----- Original Message ----- From: d wilcox <dwilcox@lightage.demon.co.uk> To: Jim SHARPE <sharpe@britishlibrary.net> Cc: <COMPUTERS-L@computers.rootsweb.com>; Mlfhs <mlfhs@sentinel.mcc.ac.uk>; <LIVING-L@living.rootsweb.com>; <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 19/mm/01 9:10 PM Subject: Re: MLFHS: Digi cameras > > Jim, > > I've just been down that road myself, starting with a Jenoptic of 1.3 > megapixels. The quality was not bad, but I was unable to read > inscriptions on headstones. Think about that. I doubt that such a low > resolution as those cameras would be much use for original documents. > > I finally settled on a Fuji 2400 which gives me 2.1 megapixels, has the > lcd and 3x zoom (which is nice) and upto 40 shots on a 16mb Smart media > card. 8mb supplied. The camera compresses the files on the card to > around 350Kb each - full colour of course. Very pleased with it. I've > photographed old newspapers and the clarity is marvellous About £250 > plus VAT. But I'm also told the Canon is a better camera. It all comes > down to the CCD fitted. > > Other points. You will need some pretty useful graphic software to > handle the shots - Paint Shop Pro is still a favourite, but you usually > get some supplied. I also found that Smart Media cards allow you to use > a floppy disk adapter to upload the shots. This is something like a > floppy disk which allows you to insert the memory card into it and > access the files through your floppy drive- honest! That's about another > £40, but no cables, or UB ports and you can delete the files on the card > after uploading. And much faster. > > Try the Digital Camera Company - very good range and prices and credit. > I was able to reclaim the VAT so that made them very attractive, but I > reckon they are competitive with anyone. > > Final q for you. Is there a difference between a collier, a miner, and a > pitman? Or are the terms used interchangeably? > > Let me know if I can help any further. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 12/02/01