Angela - this is a very common occurrence with Outlook Express. I have this problem all the time, but I do just re-boot. Then I get a message from Windows telling me because I didn't close down properly (I have usually had no alternative but to pull the plug out because everything is frozen solid) I now have to have this scan run. I mutter dark imprecations about "well you wouldn't let me - I would have loved to have closed down properly" etc. Sometimes it does let me return to windows without re-booting, depends what sort of a mood it is in. I used to blame BT, but perhaps it's just OE. I don't think reinstalling OE would make any difference. Marj Subject: [NTH-ENG] Re: Outlook again Remember that test message I sent ? well OE allows me to compose the | message, it then brings up a window saying something wrong with my pop | server etc.etc.. and in the meantime it has sent the message ! | | Then when I go to close OE my computer freezes, won't allow me to shut | down normally or end task. | Only way is to re-boot every time which is annoying. | Can I uninstall OE some way, and then reinstall it without re-installing | the whole of Windows ? |

The answer is no Glenda, no matter which of my problems you are referring to. Jim Sharpe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Glenda R. Wilson <wrwgrw@earthlink.net> > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 2:35 AM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] scanning atachments > > > > Dear Jim, > > > > Have you found the answer to the computer problem ? > > > > Glenda > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > An alternative mailing list for genealogy research in > > Northern England, this list covers the whole of the North of England > > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > An alternative mailing list for genealogy research in > Northern England, this list covers the whole of the North of England > >

My mum's favourites were P.J.Proby with his velvet ribbon in his ponytail. That seems to be the fashion so he was well ahead of his time. As a kid I thought he was gorgeous, and I have never heard anyone sing that song from West side story as well as him "Some where's a place for us - take my hand I'll take you there, somehow, some day, somewhere " Just love it, gives me goose pimples all over. Another singer always belting out in our house was Gene Pitney, as well as Englebert Humperdink, and my dad's Merl Haggard. Best wishes Angela Cyprus

OK So I've been into advanced settings and all three boxes are checked now. So when I send this, I suspect that it will not be certified, because one of the above 3 boxes says "attachments only". We'll see! Yes - there you are you see - no certificate. So it looks as though I will have to specially check the box if I want to certify an attachment? Marged Always looking for: INGHAM, FISCHER, BENTLEY, HUGHES, PEACOCK, MOUNIER, LATINIER

Phew, you lot haven't arf been talking a lot last night. I'm forgetting what I need to reply to :) I've had to go to the office 2 mornings running and I get behind with my e-mails. First one I read though is the Northern which is my favourite. We watched the match last night with greek commentary. When Liverpool scored the first goal, I felt so sorry for them as you couldn't hear the applause they deserved with too many Olympiakos fans at the stadium. I got really mad when the commentator didn't show one bit of excitement, so off I went to the kitchen put BBC radio 5 live on and listened to some professional commentators, who showed the same excitement for whoever scored the goal. The Greeks are big headed and totally biased. Can't wait for them to play us at Anfield, we'll see what happens then ! Mind you, I bet we won't get it live then. Now, Mikey, I put my crisps in-between the 2 pieces of buttered bread, and our crisps in Cyprus are not the same taste as the English crisps, but they have improved over the years. I always ask visitors to bring me some cheese n onion crisps over, which last all of 30 seconds in this house. More to follow when I've finished reading. Best wishes Angela Cyprus

Agree about the song, Angela, but not PJ; have you never heard one of the three Tenors sing it - I think Placido Domingo? Marged ----- | As a kid I thought he was gorgeous, and I have never heard anyone sing | that song from West side story as well as him "Some where's a place for | us - take my hand I'll take you there, somehow, some day, somewhere " --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.211 / Virus Database: 100 - Release Date: 14/11/00

Hi Penny are you old enough to remember -- I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I got a girl in Kalamazoo, zoo, zoo, zoo and the Modernaires. I'm sure you're not. Jim Sharpe ----- Original Message ----- From: <Makepeacewas@aol.com> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Let it snow! > My niece drove in for the holiday weekend from Kalamazoo, about two hours or > so west of here. Had nearly a foot of snow on her car and it took her almost > an hour, just to get to the city limits! We haven't had that here yet, but > it's coming. January is usually our worst in this area. > > Penny (Wasalaski) Rowland > > from the beautiful Great Lakes State of Michigan > Searching for: Makepeace, Holmes, Fowler, Pierce, Quay, John, Spalding, > Dilworth, Wasalaski, Gill, Osborne, Shimmons > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Browse the archives, > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L/ > Search the list archives, > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=NORTHERN-ENGLAND > >

Funny the things you get asked to take with you when you visit foreign parts. My friend in Vancouver wants Thornton's chocolates, Bisto Gravy Granules, and the Pink Tablets out of Migraleve. Marj | | I always ask visitors to bring me some cheese n onion crisps over, which | last all of 30 seconds in this house. | | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.211 / Virus Database: 100 - Release Date: 14/11/00

I never liked Brawn since as a child someone told me it was made from cow and sheep brains. Last week on Oldham Market I saw Pressed Beef. I havent seen it for years and bought a pound ( no daft Kilos on Oldham market) The taste is exquisite if a little salty and not to be confused with potted beef. Jim Sharpe ----- Original Message ----- From: Marged <marged@btinternet.com> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Co-op > They've still got one of those "cash wire" arrangements in a big store in > Llandudno. > > The coffee beans probably WERE mixed with the sawdust. After all, they used to > put wood chippings in the raspberry jam in the 1950s. > > And brawn had sawdust in it, too, according to my mum. > > MARGED > > > | I remember as a child being taken to the Co-op and watching in amazement as > | the cash container shot across the shop on a wire and returned with the > | change a second or two later. I can still smell the mixture of coffee beans > | and sawdust. I don't mean they were mixed! There was a wooden floor with > | sawdust and white scrubbed counters. And a machine which ground the > | coffee - a new thing to England then I think. The assistant used to give > | me a slice of some meat, probably brawn or prem, to chew on to keep me quiet > | whilst mam or gran got the divvi sorted out. > | > | Oh, aye lad, those were the days. > | > | Brian B > | Lancashire, UK. > | > | > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.211 / Virus Database: 100 - Release Date: 14/11/00 > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > There is a map showing the areas and Counties which this list covers highlighted in red here, > http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ > >

> It wasn't until Dave reminded me of the songs of his that I remembered > what he actually sang. > I had the same problem Angela - I cheated and looked on the site I sent a url for ! Strange, as soon as I saw the title I could remember the song - so I'll admit to hearing it once ! -- snip --- > > 7.30 pm every night we were sent up to our room in the attic, where we > would stay locked in until the next morning. Perhaps she was frightened of torpedoing the guests ! -- snip -- > Then Uncle Arthur in his strong Northern accent bellowed...... > "WHO'S DONE TORPEDO IN POT ? " > > It want me it were er........honest :) > I bet you remember those words as if it was only yesterday ! > Best wishes > Angela > Cyprus > > I left somebody out - Roy Orbison ! Regards Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16-Nov-00

Someone asked what :- [} Meant. I suggested Gobsmacked which means astounded. Jim Sharpe ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda R. Wilson <wrwgrw@earthlink.net> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Bacon butties > Dear Jim, > > What does this mean ? > > >GOBSMACKED? > >Jim Sharpe > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Glenda R. Wilson <wrwgrw@earthlink.net> > >To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 11:03 AM > >Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Bacon butties > > > > > >> >| Bacon sarnies. :-[) > >> >| > >> >| Brian B > >> >| Lancashire, UK. > >> > >> Hi Brian, > >> > >> What does :-[) mean ? I don't think I have seen one like this > >> before. > >> > >> Glenda > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Add a link to your website here, > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 > >

The answer is no Glenda, no matter which of my problems you are referring to. Jim Sharpe ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda R. Wilson <wrwgrw@earthlink.net> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] scanning atachments > Dear Jim, > > Have you found the answer to the computer problem ? > > Glenda > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > An alternative mailing list for genealogy research in > Northern England, this list covers the whole of the North of England > >

Hi Angela, Prawn Curry with rice - 99p - where's the prawns ........ oh I found one ! If you run control panel from the start bar :- Select "Add/Remove Programs" Then Look for Outlook Express XX ....... Bear in mind some files are common to Internet Explorer too. What version is your OE ? It might be better to upgrade to 5.5 via Microsoft , but it is a big download :- http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/download/default.htm The above is the update page - the download page is on the same site. Download of 5.5 is between 6 and 17Mb - just time for a barbie ! To re-install OE you'll need to have the disks or CD with it on - should be on the WIN 98 CD. I keep my Win 98 and IE/OE updated - seems the only way to avoid the troubles you're having. Regards Dave "Tread carefully !" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kostas & Angela Nicolaou" <titina23@spidernet.com.cy> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 11:04 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Re: Outlook again > Remember that test message I sent ? well OE allows me to compose the > message, it then brings up a window saying something wrong with my pop > server etc.etc.. and in the meantime it has sent the message ! > > Then when I go to close OE my computer freezes, won't allow me to shut > down normally or end task. > Only way is to re-boot every time which is annoying. > Can I uninstall OE some way, and then reinstall it without re-installing > the whole of Windows ? > > Best wishes > angela > Cyprus > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list in mail mode send a message to > NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains the word unsubscribe and nothing else. > If you are in digest mode, then send the command instead to > NORTHERN-ENGLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16-Nov-00

In a message dated 24/11/00 17:34:06 GMT Standard Time, sharpe@britishlibrary.net writes: << Plenty of practice, nearly 50 years married. Jim Sharpe >> That is fantastic - many congratulations to you both. Best wishes, Maggie Searching for: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH - Kent BICKER - Notts

In a message dated 24/11/00 16:13:26 GMT Standard Time, sharpe@britishlibrary.net writes: << never liked Brawn since as a child someone told me it was made from cow and sheep brains. >> I hate to tell you but my late father-in-law used to make it from boiling a complete pigs head and stripping the meat off. Quite put me off too - I used to like it before I saw it in the pot. I don't know if the commercial version is made that way - probably just have a bigger pot!!! It is probably banned nowaday because of BSE. You couldn't make it from sheep because they get scrapie - which is similar to BSE and has been around for hundreds of years. Regards. Maggie Searching for: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH - Kent BICKER - Notts

In a message dated 24/11/00 15:01:49 GMT Standard Time, marged@btinternet.com writes: << telling me because I didn't close down properly (I have usually had no alternative but to pull the plug out because everything is frozen solid) I now have to have this scan run. I mutter dark imprecations about "well you wouldn't let me - I would have loved to have closed down properly" etc. >> Not you as well Marged!!! I usually add "you stupid thing" and more along that line...lol. Annoying, isnt it. I also find my computer can 'hang' when I switch it off at night - usually when it is late at night and I want to get to bed. I usually try the Alt Ctrl Del but if all else fails then I switch off at the plug...but then I have to switch on again because I know I won't sleep if I think it has gone wrong!!!! No 20 again????? Regards, Maggie Searching for: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH - Kent BICKER - Notts

What version of IE are you using? I understand there are some problems with 5.5 so it might pay you to check the Microsoft pages. Maggie Searching for: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH - Kent BICKER - Notts

Hi All Latest AVG database is 101 , program 6.0.215. I must change the default update settings. Download is about 1.5Mb Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16-Nov-00

> Don't know if the OE tick does anything else - but I just love to see that > certificate on my mail. > > No one has come forth to tell me how to make AVG scan files that I send - it > actually puts a note on saying "File has not been scanned". > > MARGED Marged, I've just done a test on a message with an attachment - I changed the outgoing e-mail option ( Advanced Settings ) and checked : "Certify Outgoing Messages" "With attachments only" Which produces the message "file has not been not scanned" I assume the message relates to the email itself and not the attachment. Unchecking "with attachments" removes the message. I looked in the help file , which , unfortunately doesn't mention advanced settings at all ! Would be more logical if the message said "only the attachment has been scanned ?" if that is what the program is doing. I think this is worth a query to Grisoft - I'll see if I get a response ! Dave :-) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.211 / Virus Database: 100 - Release Date: 14-Nov-00

AVG Control Centre has an "ADVANCED SETTINGS" box to click. Incoming mail and outgoing mail can have a "Certify Messages" box ticked with or without attachments. Brian B Lancashire, UK. brian_bramhall@lineone.net http://website.lineone.net/~brian_bramhall/index.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged@btinternet.com> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] "J" & AVG. > Thanks Brian - I do, of course, have a long list of folders in OE (I've got > files on all of you!) but there doesn't seem to be a problem with speed in > changing from one to the other. Perhaps it's me that's a bit slow and this is > the speed I go at! > > Don't know if the OE tick does anything else - but I just love to see that > certificate on my mail. > > No one has come forth to tell me how to make AVG scan files that I send - it > actually puts a note on saying "File has not been scanned". > > MARGED > | > | Folders are listed down the left hand side of OE and clicking on one brings > | up a list of messages in the top box. As each is highlighted the message > | appears in the lower box. > | > | I found, as suggested, that by unticking the OE5 box in AVG my movement [if > | you'll pardon the expression] was speeded up so I have included the AVG > | certificate in my signature block as below. > | > | I don't know if ticking this box does anything else apart from include the > | certificate. Does it? > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.211 / Virus Database: 100 - Release Date: 14/11/00 > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > An alternative mailing list for genealogy research in > Northern England, this list covers the whole of the North of England > >