Dear Jim, Thank you for sharing your nice evening out...and good for you ! singing Happy Birthday ! It is always so nice to see people really enjoying themselves. Regards, Glenda >We had a night out with friends last night. Went to The Old Original pub >near Scouthead for dinner. Had a lovely time. There were two birthday >parties in. One was two little girls both aged about seven and the other was >a girl of 21. >Now I'm not in favour usually of children in pubs but this particular >country pub is different and the restaurant area is rather cosy. >The girls were very well behaved and the proprietor brought a lovely cake in >and everyone whether in the party or not applauded and sang happy birthday, >yours truly included. >The same was done later in the evening for the elder girl. >Everyone thoroughly enjoyed themselves and it made for a uniquely satisfying >evening. >This is one of the better weekends. > >Jim Sharpe Manchester UK >

In a message dated 11/26/00 7:43:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, MagsB1942@aol.com writes: > Yes, and programmes like Wagon Train, The Virginian...not to mention my > favourite film..Oklahoma !!!! Now I am hearing that....O K L A H OOOOO > MMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > How about Rawhide? A short-lived show, but good. Came on shortly after my parents got television. Or, Marshall Dillon in Gunsmoke (both the TV & radio versions)? We had a lot of radio before the television was installed. Becky

Further to the previous one I forwarded on. ------------------------------------------------------------------- James & Maggie - I decided to follow my own suggestion about searching the Internet. Take a look at the following URL. The entire story is there. >http://www.retroactive.com/may98/penn65000.html As Becky says - not the white house. Maggie Surname interests: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent MATTHEWS, COAFFEE, SWEENEY, GRANT, BERESFORD, RICHARDS in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere

Dear Jim, What is the Goon Show ? Glenda

After skimming through all the Pennsylvania 65000 messages I'm amazed to say nobody gets the banana. 65000 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington is the White House. Jim Sharpe Manchester UK ----- Original Message ----- From: Mikey. <painter@onetel.net.uk> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Pennsylvania 65000 > You might well be right Marged. > > Mikey. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marged <marged@btinternet.com> > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 8:10 AM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Pennsylvania 65000 > > > > I thought it was a telephone number - not necessarily a real one? > > > > Marged > > > > > > > > > > | Good morning all, > > | > > | The question has been puzzling me as I can hear the words and sound of > it in > > | my head very clearly but cant recall what it exactly was & meant! > > | > > | However I hazard the guess that it was the "Call Sign" > > | of the 'Radio Station' that hosted "Big Band Swing": > > | > > | "Pennsylvania 65000" Can you hear it! > > | > > | In America, "The Golden Age of Swing" the 30's. > > | > > | Regards, > > | > > | Mikey. > > | > > | > > | ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > | The aims of this list are to create a comradeship of Northerners and > those > > descendent from Northerners which can be beneficial to tracing the family > > history of the region. > > | > > | > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16/11/00 > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > Visit the lists Pulse Page here, > > http://212.19.69.91/north/ > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list in mail mode send a message to > NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains the word unsubscribe and nothing else. > If you are in digest mode, then send the command instead to > NORTHERN-ENGLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00

In a message dated 11/26/00 7:30:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, sharpe@britishlibrary.net writes: > > After skimming through all the Pennsylvania 65000 messages I'm amazed to say > nobody gets the banana. > 65000 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington is the White House. > > Jim, I hate to burst your bubble, but the White House is at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20510. You'll have to go some to try & convince me that is what the song, Pennsylvania 6-5000, referred to. Sorry, Becky

In a message dated 26/11/00 16:50:17 GMT Standard Time, northern@genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk writes: << Sorry for being quiet I just haven't had time to reply much but I am always here listening and lurking <bg> >> Was that 'Cold Comfort Farm' where something nasty was lurking in the woodshed? Sorry Dada, no offence meant....lol Just the phrase struck me and I hate it when that happens and I can't remember. Maggie Surname interests: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent MATTHEWS, COAFFEE, SWEENEY, GRANT, BERESFORD, RICHARDS in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere

Dear Brian, Perry Como...never could stand him. Regards, Glenda

I'll probably say it BETTER after a couple of bottles. Brian B Lancashire, UK. brian_bramhall@lineone.net http://website.lineone.net/~brian_bramhall/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kostas & Angela Nicolaou" <titina23@spidernet.com.cy> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 9:13 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Re: slivovitch > > Jim, > > Try saying it after a couple of bottles :) > > angela > cyprus > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > An alternative mailing list for genealogy research in > Northern England, this list covers the whole of the North of England > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16/11/2000

I thought I would forward this mailie on to the list. It is self explanatory and I thought you might be interest to know the real answer. Amazing where our messages get to...lol Maggie - As a result of my PML subscription to RootsWeb, I picked up the following message because it included the two magic words in one of my search criteria - "Pennsylvania" and "Richards" (that's just so you'll know how I happen to be reading over your shoulder). >Subject: PML Search Result matching Richards AND (Pennsylvania OR PA) AN >Sent: 11/22/20 1:03 PM >Received: 11/26/00 9:29 AM >From: MagsB1942@aol.com >To: wlrich@erols.com > >===================================================================== >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >===================================================================== >Source: NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Pennsylvania 65000 > > >In a message dated 26/11/00 12:30:00 GMT Standard Time, >sharpe@britishlibrary.net writes: > ><< After skimming through all the Pennsylvania 65000 messages I'm amazed to >say > nobody gets the banana. > 65000 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington is the White House. >> > >So that's it - I know I had heard the explanation in a programme on Glen >Miller but it escaped me.....good job someone has more memory than me ...lol > >Maggie > >Surname interests: >BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent >MATTHEWS, COAFFEE, SWEENEY, GRANT, BERESFORD, RICHARDS >in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere First of all, the address of the White House is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Secondly, the story is that Pennsylvania 6-5000 (the hyphen is required) was the telephone number of the hotel in New York at which the Glenn Miller band was staying at the time. The tune was written back in the early 1940s when telephone numbers in the United States used a "word plus five numbers" designation (such as my aunt's old number which was "Tuxedo 8-4545" - her husband worked for the C&P Telephone Company so they got an "easy to remember" number). "Tuxedo 8" was the "exchange" designation and "4545" was the individual number within that exchange (I also worked for the telephone company at that time). In a name/number combination, only the first two letters of the name were dialed but a name/number combination was used as it was easier for someone to remember a name and five numbers than to remember 7 numbers. However, the "names" only allowed for a limited number of exchanges (some number combinations are impossible to substitute with names) so about 40 years ago, with the advent of "area codes", the names were dropped. I hope the above clears up any confusion among our Northern England friends about the origin of the title of the tune. I wish I could remember the name of the hotel where the band was staying at the time. At one time I knew what it was (it may have been the Ritz) but I no longer can recall it. If there is a Glenn Miller web page, you might find the answer there. Maggie Surname interests: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent MATTHEWS, COAFFEE, SWEENEY, GRANT, BERESFORD, RICHARDS in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere

Dear All, Wyoming is still the least populated state in the USA. The mountain streams and rivers run clear, pure and cold. Fishing is a wonderful pasttime. The mountains...ohhhhhhh...The wonder of them all ! They are majestic and .... they are beckoning me back home ! Just nothing like the mountains ! I can picture them so clearly...and tears come to my eyes...guess I had better quit... Still homesick, Glenda

Sammy Cahn was a character, he had a truly terrible voice but had an act in which he sang his own songs at the piano and told anecdotes. He was actually very entertaining. Jim Sharpe Manchester UK ----- Original Message ----- From: <RHALL451@aol.com> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Let it Snow > In a message dated 11/25/00 3:18:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > michael@ae.net.sa writes: > > > > Try this for the real thing: > > http://www.homestead.com/stnick/christmassongs23.html MikeC in saudi (back > > on line) > > > > > > > > If I read this right, it WAS a Sammy Cahn & Jule Styne's song. I believe > Frank Sinatra, Rosemary Clooney & others from that time also did the song in > their styles. > Thank you all for the help. I won't have nightmares about it now! > > Becky > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > This list also allows Trivia postings about the region as well as serious genealogy research postings. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00

Dear Brian, Ok, I will ask: Who is Bertha Krupp ? Glenda >Come on, someone ask "Who's Bertha Krupp?" > >Brian B >Lancashire, UK. > >brian_bramhall@lineone.net >http://website.lineone.net/~brian_bramhall/index.htm > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James SHARPE" <sharpe@britishlibrary.net> >To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 1:57 PM >Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re:CO-OP > > >> It was a big gun named after Bertha Krupp. >> >> Jim Sharpe Manchester UK >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <MagsB1942@aol.com> >> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 9:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Re:CO-OP >> >> >> > In a message dated 25/11/00 17:36:57 GMT Standard Time, >> > sharpe@britishlibrary.net writes: >> > >> > << I remember the Co-op Laundry vans used to backfire like Big Bertha >> who's >> > Big Bertha?). >> >> > >> > Wasn't it a gun on the Western Front...WW1? Or.....some large lady who >> had >> > been eating Jeruslam artichokes......lol >> > >> > Maggie >> > >> > Surname interests: >> > BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent >> > MATTHEWS, GRANT, COAFFEE, BERESFORD, SWEENEY >> > in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere >> >

Dear Brian, How cold is it there ? Shivering in Indiana, Glenda

Hi, Both Bing and Andy made recordings of this but Bing was the first one; Andy Williams came later. Glenda

Krupp was a big ordanance maker....now makes coffee machines etc. Bertha was his wife? Or daughter? Maggie Surname interests: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent MATTHEWS, COAFFEE, SWEENEY, GRANT, BERESFORD, RICHARDS in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere

Yes Jim, you do...well done!!!!!!!!!!!! Mags Surname interests: BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent MATTHEWS, COAFFEE, SWEENEY, GRANT, BERESFORD, RICHARDS in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere

In a message dated 11/26/00 6:15:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, titina23@spidernet.com.cy writes: > This is driving me crazy, and does definitely have a Bing ring to it or > Andy whatchamacallhim........ > Hi Angela! Are you talking Andy Williams? I could hear him singing it too! Becky

I thought Sir Alec Douglas Holme (pronounced Hulme) was his name, later Lord Holme. Jim Sharpe Manchester UK ----- Original Message ----- From: Mikey. <painter@onetel.net.uk> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] HUME Title. > Hi Maggie, > > I dont think so. Wasnt he honoured and accepted, then becoming Sir Alec > Douglas Hume. > > There is no earlier record of a family of either the Peerage or Baronetage > with the name Hume. > > There was a Catherine Hume entitled to a courtesy title in the 70's and that > (I assume ) was obtained not through marriage but being the daughter of; > prior to marriage in her own right in Ancaster. > > Best wishes, > Mikey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MagsB1942@aol.com> > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 9:18 PM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] That Mad Cow > > > > In a message dated 25/11/00 17:37:15 GMT Standard Time, > > sharpe@britishlibrary.net writes: > > > > << Wedgie Benn the greatest Prime Minister we didn't get. > > Politicians nowadays scrabble about for a peerage he rejected one (Lord > > Stansgate) to do a politicians job. > > As everywhere in the world honesty and integrity gets a politician > nowhere. > > >> > > > > Wasn't it Douglas Hume who also had a title and rejected it? > > > > Maggie > > > > Surname interests: > > BICKER, MILLER, SPRATT, MARSH mainly in Kent > > MATTHEWS, GRANT, COAFFEE, BERESFORD, SWEENEY > > in Middx, Bucks, USA and elsewhere > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > Visit the lists Pulse Page here, > > http://212.19.69.91/north/ > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Add a link to your website here, > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00

Mikey Speaking of Tonto did you hear that one about KIMASAHBI meaning stupid white git. <G> Jim Sharpe Manchester UK ----- Original Message ----- From: Mikey. <painter@onetel.net.uk> To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] EATING MEAT > Aint defeated any purpose Jim, > > Mind you yer might have a point there, EEC free range chukkie eggs aint what > they are reckened to be, a load of Myth. > > But I would rather have eggs and meat from free rangers outside my back door > that have eaten rats and ever other goddarn thing, rambling free, healthy > and happy than that rubbish. > > There free range and free range none of them are Farmyard free. I'l call my > first one Tonto, it will be a > Rhode Island Red for sure. > > Mikey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James SHARPE <sharpe@britishlibrary.net> > To: Mikey. <painter@onetel.net.uk>; <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:54 PM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] EATING MEAT > > > > Well I for one would have preferred not to have been told that hens eat > > rats. > > You've defeated your purpose Mikey people will now prefer battery eggs. > > > > Jim Sharpe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mikey. <painter@onetel.net.uk> > > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] EATING MEAT > > > > > > > Marged, > > > > > > Pigs eat meat by god you should see what they eat in large wild > enclosures > > > same with chickens! > > > > > > Ever thought about how much rat meat gets into your supermarket free > range > > > chickens? They are excellent rat killers you see one get cornered and > > rats > > > are fast but a hen can be hell and it doesnt waste it either, gobbled > and > > > gone. Not too mention the odd other sister Hen that dies....... They > > waste > > > nothing that is edible as neither do Pigs and Boar. Simple converters > > like > > > us. > > > > > > Jeeps Marged you live a comfortable life and have the freedom of choice > > and > > > life though I am afraid I have to say, passes you by. Very convenient > > > blinkers you wear and having it both ways. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mikey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Marged <marged@btinternet.com> > > > To: <NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:42 PM > > > Subject: [NTH-ENG] EATING MEAT > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if I have said this before - hit the delete button if I > > have. > > > > > > > > I am a meat eater, but I would prefer to be a vegetarian. However, it > > is > > > > something that I find too difficult to do. So I try to make sure that > > the > > > meat > > > > I eat is from a decent source. > > > > > > > > There are some meats that we are not supposed to eat (see Leviticus) > and > > > > examination of the types mentioned there will show that these, like > > lions > > > etc., > > > > are animals which eat meat themselves and have different digestive > > systems > > > to > > > > things like cows and sheep. > > > > > > > > I think there is some confusion over pigs - and I am sorry I eat them, > > > because > > > > yes, they are intelligent, and I think they would eat meat if it was > > given > > > to > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marged > > > > > > > > Always looking for: > > > > INGHAM, FISCHER, BENTLEY, > > > > HUGHES, PEACOCK, MOUNIER, LATINIER > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 16/11/00 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > > > Don't forget you can also post your surnames or any other messages you > > may > > > want to share in our on line forum message board, > > > > http://amazingforums.com/forum/NORTH/forum.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > > Add a link to your website here, > > > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00 > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Add a link to your website here, > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00