That's not quite what I meant. I mean we have to stand up and be counted - and I was very glad to see the back of Enoch Powell. But don't let's get political at Christmas Bri - let's save it for the New Year! Marj | They can issue their Fatwahs all they like until they are driven back to the | sea. If I can't respect my own faith in my own country in my own way it's | about time we stopped them taking over. | | A week ago Heath was being interviewed by Frost and he said no-one had ever | objected when he sacked Powell. Obviously he never listened, like most | politicians. | | I just managed an hour in my local pub before all the kids came in with the | women who should be home making mince pies. I always was, when I had kids | at home instead of being a 30 year old yob as we have now. And I didn't | need foul language to have a conversation. | | Anyway, another time another place. | | I'm off to try to sleep through this so called festive season of goodwill. | | Brian B | Droylsden, UK. | Seasons Greetings to all | | [email protected] | http://www.gortonian.com | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Marged" <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 12:38 PM | Subject: [NTH-ENG] OUR BELIEFS | | | > Thanks for that Brian. | > | > In this country, we seem to allow people to make jokes which are insulting | to | > Jesus and the Christian Faith. sometimes we hear things in which, if we | > substituted the word "Mohammed" for "Jesus", there would be a public | outcry and | > Fatwahs would be issued. | > | > I am all for respecting anyone's right to the Faith of their choice, and | to | > respecting their Faith myself, and I would like the same consideration | myself | > for my own Faith. | > | > Nothing will change until Christians stand up to be counted. | > | > | > MARGED | > | > | > --- | > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00 | > | > | > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== | > Add a link to your website here, | > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 | > | > | | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000 | | | | ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== | Add a link to your website here, | http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 | | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

They can issue their Fatwahs all they like until they are driven back to the sea. If I can't respect my own faith in my own country in my own way it's about time we stopped them taking over. A week ago Heath was being interviewed by Frost and he said no-one had ever objected when he sacked Powell. Obviously he never listened, like most politicians. I just managed an hour in my local pub before all the kids came in with the women who should be home making mince pies. I always was, when I had kids at home instead of being a 30 year old yob as we have now. And I didn't need foul language to have a conversation. Anyway, another time another place. I'm off to try to sleep through this so called festive season of goodwill. Brian B Droylsden, UK. Seasons Greetings to all [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 12:38 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] OUR BELIEFS > Thanks for that Brian. > > In this country, we seem to allow people to make jokes which are insulting to > Jesus and the Christian Faith. sometimes we hear things in which, if we > substituted the word "Mohammed" for "Jesus", there would be a public outcry and > Fatwahs would be issued. > > I am all for respecting anyone's right to the Faith of their choice, and to > respecting their Faith myself, and I would like the same consideration myself > for my own Faith. > > Nothing will change until Christians stand up to be counted. > > > MARGED > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00 > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Add a link to your website here, > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

To all on the list. I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Here in Bjerkvik, North Norway we finally got the snow, so this morning started with traffic problems and a job of snow clearing. Best wishes Pål W. Martinussen Bjerkvik, North Norway

A Genealogist's Christmas Eve 'Twas the night before Christmas and inside my house Little was stirring, except my computer mouse. Our descendants were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of ancestors danced in their heads. So I at my laptop, near trusty old printer Put the finishing touches to the project of winter, The gift I had promised for under the tree A product of love, the family genealogy. My table with clutter galore was aspread with pedigree charts of the living and dead; old yellowed photos, letters of yore, wills and diaries chronicling days from before. While others bought gifts at Wall-Mart or Sears, I’d spent my time searching birth dates and years. No need for ribbons or fancy gift wrappings, This gift had a way of transcending the trappings. While surveying the charts with one final proof, I must have missed the sound on the roof. For what to my wondering eyes did appear, But the jolly old elf, replete in his gear. Searching my face, old Santa could sense My Christmas spirit was extremely intense. He spied my research on the table spread out, "A genealogist!" he exclaimed, "that removes any doubt." As I climbed up the stairs feeling quite in the pink, I looked back at Santa and shared a sly wink. For he and I know that the gift of oneself, Beats anything bought from a department store shelf.

Thanks for that Brian. In this country, we seem to allow people to make jokes which are insulting to Jesus and the Christian Faith. sometimes we hear things in which, if we substituted the word "Mohammed" for "Jesus", there would be a public outcry and Fatwahs would be issued. I am all for respecting anyone's right to the Faith of their choice, and to respecting their Faith myself, and I would like the same consideration myself for my own Faith. Nothing will change until Christians stand up to be counted. MARGED --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

| Wear out don't rust out. | Let people know what you stand for, and what you won't stand for. | Learn to recognize the inconsequential, then ignore it. | Do battle against preudice and discrimiation wherever you find it. | Never take action when you are angry. | Be tough minded but tenderhearted. | Don't waste time responding to your critics. | Overtip breafast waitresses. | Use the good silver. | Buy great books evern if you never read them. | Drink champagne for no reason at all. | If in a fight, hit first and hit hard. | Return all the things you borrow. | Treat everyone you meet like you want to be treated. | Learn to identify the music of Chopin, Mozart and Beethoven. | Make new friends but cherish the old ones. | Don't postpone joy. | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

Best Christmas wishes to Everyone ! Hope All of you are well ! Glenda Nadolig Llawen Nollaig Shona Duit Best Christenmas

Latest version is 6.0 225 [see below]released 23/12/00. Brian B Droylsden, UK. Seasons Greetings to all [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 11:35 AM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Re: [SCOUSERS] Virus is still about > Hi Marge, > As to virus protection progs, ie AVC, etc, I have been told that they only work on past virus's or known virus's so when a new one comes along it just gets through. > Danny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: joy > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 7:48 AM > Subject: [SCOUSERS] Virus is still about > > > The latest version of AVG is 60.219. its what they called a Minor update that I got the other day. I get a reminder every time I log on to update. But, if there is no update they let you know that you have the latest version. > > I have both AVG and InnoculateIT and both let the mail download, the warning that it contained a virus only came when I deleted it. > I wonder if I had tried to open it if it would have come up with the warning and not allowed me to. I'm not about to try it though to find out. > > Thanks to Albert for the early warning. > Joy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SheilaG > To: Marged > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 12:47 PM > Subject: Re: [SCOUSERS] Virus is still about > > > Marj, I wouldn't have known about the pegbe virus if someone hadn't told > the list. My AVG didn't let me know either. Each night this week I have > tried to update it from the net and I get a message saying it doesn't need > updating. sheila.g. > > > >Still don't understand why AVG lets it in? > > > > > >Marged > >Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year > >2001 - WOW! > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 05/12/00 > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 2000-12-05 > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > There is a map showing the areas and Counties which this list covers highlighted in red here, > http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Hi Marge, As to virus protection progs, ie AVC, etc, I have been told that they only work on past virus's or known virus's so when a new one comes along it just gets through. Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: joy Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 7:48 AM Subject: [SCOUSERS] Virus is still about The latest version of AVG is 60.219. its what they called a Minor update that I got the other day. I get a reminder every time I log on to update. But, if there is no update they let you know that you have the latest version. I have both AVG and InnoculateIT and both let the mail download, the warning that it contained a virus only came when I deleted it. I wonder if I had tried to open it if it would have come up with the warning and not allowed me to. I'm not about to try it though to find out. Thanks to Albert for the early warning. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: SheilaG To: Marged Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [SCOUSERS] Virus is still about Marj, I wouldn't have known about the pegbe virus if someone hadn't told the list. My AVG didn't let me know either. Each night this week I have tried to update it from the net and I get a message saying it doesn't need updating. sheila.g. >Still don't understand why AVG lets it in? > > >Marged >Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year >2001 - WOW! > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 05/12/00 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 2000-12-05

Is anybody out there without a hangover in addition to me? Brian B Droylsden, UK. Seasons Greetings to all [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 23/12/2000

Did you hear the silliest suggestion yet. On this mornings Good Morning Sunday with Don MacLean it was revealed that some bright person has claimed that our children's human rights might be being infringed by teaching them Christianity! We are a Christian country and that is our belief. Why then should we not be allowed to teach our children our beliefs? Where is this world going, I ask myself. Why don't these "knowalls" boil their heads? Brian B Droylsden, UK. Seasons Greetings to all [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 23/12/2000

Hi All, Just a quick email to wish everyone a very Happy Christmas and a brilliant New Year. Take care over the holiday period, ready to come back and knock down the brick walls. May peace and happiness come your way. Take care, ttfn, Trish, ex Hull lass, Central Coast of NSW, Oz where it's warm, dry, windy and summer is finally here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Morning Bryan, It is midnight here in Australia and I am answering because I can't sleep - have a nice Xmas and I send my best wishes to all on the list - keep your chin up Glenda - we are all thinking of you I'm sure - Merry, Merry, Xmas to all - cheers Rosa -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Douglas-Matthews <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, 23 December 2000 6:39 Subject: [NTH-ENG] Good Morning All, >What a sleepy crowd indeed, I'm up and running like a train. Not on time, >all behind and prone to mishaps. > >Still I am alive and well and awaiting lots of letters (or is this just >wishful thinking.) > >If I don't get them today, I can't answer, I'm going away, from tomorrow >morning till Boxing Day I shall miss my friends and have to face my >relations,(the In Laws) God Bless 'Em every one. > >So then, if you write to me, make it soon, now I'm off to my front room, >there to sit and warm my toes as it's cold and I'm alone with no mail, (Glad >I spelt that right). >>From Bryan, >The Wild Celt, >Dum Spiro - Spero. > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 05/12/00 > > >==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== >Browse the archives, >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L/ >Search the list archives, >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=NORTHERN-ENGLAN D >

> Nice one, Mike. Just thought I'd mention, you're behing on AVG. That should have read "behind" of course. Seasons Greetings to all and thanks to all who have worked so hard to make our lives a little easier. Brian B Droylsden, UK. [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Nice one, Mike. Just thought I'd mention, you're behing on AVG. Brian B Droylsden, UK. Seasons Greetings to all [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Admin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 11:16 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Think of the ladies <g> ....................[snip]...................................... > > Mike > Admin [email protected] > http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ > check out Dave's bits & bobs here, > http://212.19.69.91/north/ > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 05/12/2000 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Don't you think the sender should be named, Marj? Or at least the other list owner told? Is it the same person we discussed a while back? How did you put the sound on? Hope you enjoyed your lie down :-) Brian B Droylsden, UK. Seasons Greetings to all [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 9:43 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] VIRUS > I have just received another virus containing attachment from a member of > another list. > > This guy has been sending them out for months. They follow any e-mail he sends > to the list. Fortunately we know what they look like now and don't open them. > > I've just looked through the e-mail section of AVG and one of the checked boxes > is "incoming e-mail certified virus free". > > I have put a "sound" on now to be played if a virus containing e-mail comes in. > I am perplexed. > > > MARGED > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00 > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Don't forget you can also post your surnames or any other messages you may want to share in our on line forum message board, > http://amazingforums.com/forum/NORTH/forum.html > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Not at all, dear boy. Still here earwiggin' :-)) Brian B Droylsden, UK. Seasons Greetings to all [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Douglas-Matthews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Mail, what mail > Hi Marged, > > I think they are all out at parties or dead, (drunk in Brian's case, I > suspect)(Grin) > > >From Bryan, > The Wild Celt, > Dum Spiro - Spero. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marged <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 7:39 PM > Subject: [NTH-ENG] NO MAIL AGAIN > > > > It all seems to have slowed down again, doesn't it! > > > > Marj > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00 > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > Add a link to your website here, > > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00 > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Browse the archives, > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L/ > Search the list archives, > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=NORTHERN-ENGLAND > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

A Woman's Version of The Night Before Christmas 'Twas the night before Christmas and all through the kitchen, I was cooking and baking, and moanin' and bitchin. I've been here for hours, I can't stop to rest. This room's a disaster, just look at this mess! Tomorrow I have thirty people to feed, They expect all the trimmings; Who cares what I need? My feet are both blistered, I've got cramps in my legs, The cat just knocked over a bowl full of eggs. There's a knock at the door, And the telephone's ringing; Frosting drips on the counter as the microwave's dinging! Two pies in the oven, dessert's almost done; My cookbook is soiled with butter and crumbs. I've had all I can stand, I can't take any more; Then in walks my husband, spilling rum on the floor. He weaves and he wobbles, his balance unsteady, Then he grins as he chuckles, "The egg nog is ready!" He looks all around and with total regret, says, "What's taking so long..aren't you through in here yet?" As quick as a flash I reach for a knife, He loses an earlobe, I wanted his life! He flees from the room in terror and pain and screams, "MY GOD WOMAN, YOU'RE GOING INSANE!" Now what was I doing, and what is that smell? Oh darn! it's the pies! They're burned all to hell! I hate to admit when I make a mistake, But I put them on BROIL instead of on BAKE. What else can go wrong? Is there still more ahead? If this is good living, I'd rather be dead. Lord, don't get me wrong, I love holidays; It just leaves me exhausted, all shaky and dazed. But I promise you one thing, if I live 'til next year, You won't find me pulling my hair out in here. I'll hire a maid, a cook, and a waiter; and... If that doesn't work, I'LL HAVE IT ALL CATERED! Mike Admin [email protected] http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ check out Dave's bits & bobs here, http://212.19.69.91/north/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 05/12/2000

Off to bed now - no chairs to sit on in this room (been cleaned - still wet). MARGED --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

Good to see you back with us marged, I nearly had kittens when I saw your unsub come trough <vbg> Strange how the robot can pick out the word unsubscribe from a message and take you seriously yet at other times people can try and unsub and nothing happen . Mike Admin [email protected] http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ check out Dave's bits & bobs here, http://212.19.69.91/north/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 05/12/2000