Hi Marged Rootsweb doesn't allow attachments full stop. I was accused by my cousin of sending a virus attachment - I denied it of course. He later e-mailed me and apologised , saying he'd just discovered the virus he'd received just copied the sender information from the last e-mail he'd had - which was mine ......... Suggest you send me an e-mail off list - if it's clear it's clear ! Dave > Here's where I need the help. > > I have received a message from one man on another list (published to the whole > list) stating that he has received the W95 virus from me with my e-mail. I am > writing to Northern because I am fairly confident, having checked via AVG, and > sending myself several e-mails, that I do not have a virus, and have not had > one! > > I also feel confident that Rootsweb will not let my mail in if it is infected. > > At the moment I am very worried, but when I have finished being worried, I am > going to be very angry! > > Hope no-one has cause to get angry with me! > > MARGED --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22-Dec-00

Well, it's more or less what we said, isn't it! BOXING DAY Origins: Few Americans have any inkling that there even is such a thing as Boxing Day, let alone what the reason might be for a holiday so named. However, before one concludes we're about to rag on Americentric attitudes towards other cultures, we should quickly point out that even though Boxing Day is celebrated in Australia, Britain, New Zealand, and Canada, not all that many in those countries have much of a notion as to why they get the 26 of December off. Boxing Day might well be a statutory holiday in some of those lands, but it's not a well understood one. Despite the lively images suggested by the name, it has nothing to do with pugilistic expositions between tanked-up family members who have dearly been looking forward to taking a round out of each other for the past year. Likewise, it does not gain its name from the overpowering need to rid the house of an excess of wrappings and mountains of now useless cardboard boxes the day after St. Nick arrived to turn a perfectly charming and orderly home into a maelstrom of discarded tissue paper. The name also has nothing to do with returning unwanted gifts to the stores they came from, hence its common association with hauling about boxes on the day after Christmas. The holiday's roots can be traced to Britain, where Boxing Day is also known as St. Stephen's Day. Reduced to the simplest essence, its origins are found in a long-ago practice of giving cash or durable goods to those of the lower classes. Gifts among equals were exchanged on or before Christmas Day, but beneficences to those less fortunate were bestowed the day after. And that's about as much as anyone can definitively say about its origin because once you step beyond that point, it's straight into the quagmire of debated claims and dueling folklorists. Which, by the way, is what we're about to muddy our boots with. Although there is general agreement that the holiday is of British origin and it has to do with giving presents to the less fortunate, there is still dispute as to how the name came about or precisely what unequal relationship is being recognized. At various times, the following "origins" have been loudly asserted as the correct one: a.. Centuries ago, ordinary members of the merchant class gave boxes of food and fruit to tradespeople and servants the day after Christmas in an ancient form of Yuletide tip. These gifts were an expression of gratitude to those who worked for them, in much the same way that one now tips the paperboy an extra $20 at Christmastime or slips the building's superintendent a bottle of fine whisky. Those long-ago gifts were done up in boxes, hence the day coming to be known as "Boxing Day." b.. Christmas celebrations in the old days entailed bringing everyone together from all over a large estate, thus creating one of the rare instances when everyone could be found in one place at one time. This gathering of his extended family, so to speak, presented the lord of the manor with a ready-made opportunity to easily hand out that year's stipend of necessities. Thus, the day after Christmas, after all the partying was over and it was almost time to go back to far-flung homesteads, serfs were presented with their annual allotment of practical goods. Who got what was determined by the status of the worker and his relative family size, with spun cloth, leather goods, durable food supplies, tools, and whatnot being handed out. Under this explanation, there was nothing voluntary about this transaction; the lord of the manor was obligated to supply these goods. The items were chucked into boxes, one box for each family, to make carrying away the results of this annual restocking easier; thus, the day came to be known as "Boxing Day." c.. Many years ago, on the day after Christmas, servants in Britain carried boxes to their masters when they arrived for the day's work. It was a tradition that on this day all employers would put coins in the boxes, as a special end-of-the-year gift. In a closely-related version of this explanation, apprentices and servants would on that day get to smash open small earthenware boxes left for them by their masters. These boxes would house small sums of money specifically left for them. This dual-versioned theory melds the two previous ones together into a new form; namely, the employer who was obligated to hand out something on Boxing Day, but this time to recipients who were not working the land for him and thus were not dependent on him for all they wore and ate. The "box" thus becomes something beyond ordinary compensation (in a way goods to landed serfs was not), yet it's also not a gift in that there's nothing voluntary about it. Under this theory, the boxes are an early form of Christmas bonus, something employees see as their entitlement. d.. Boxes in churches for seasonal donations to the needy were opened on Christmas Day, and the contents distributed by the clergy the following day. The contents of this alms box originated with the ordinary folks in the parish who were thus under no direct obligation to provide anything at all and were certainly not tied to the recipients by a employer/employee relationship. In this case, the "box" in "Boxing Day" comes from that one gigantic lockbox the donations were left in. Whichever theory one chooses to back, the one thread common to all is the theme of one-way provision to those not inhabiting the same social level. As mentioned previously, equals exchanged gifts on Christmas Day or before, but lessers (be they tradespeople, employees, servants, serfs, or the generic "poor") received their "boxes" on the day after. It is to be noted that the social superiors did not receive anything back from those they played Lord Bountiful to: a gift in return would have been seen as a presumptuous act of laying claim to equality, the very thing Boxing Day was an entrenched bastion against. Boxing Day was, after all, about preserving class lines. Sightings: Good King Wenceslas' gifts of bread, wine, and firewood to a poor man whom he observed struggling through the snow took place "on the Feast of Stephen." Last updated: 7 November 2000 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

Clear here Marged, Go to it girl and tell him it's not from you, or that he needs AVG. From Bryan, The Wild Celt, Dum Spiro - Spero. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marged <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 6:53 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] HELP ME! > Hi Everyone > > Boxing Day - 18.50pm GMT > > I have just arrived home from my daughter's and switched on. We had a lovely > time, and hope you all did too. > The star of Christmas to us this year was Lucy, who sparkled the whole time we > were there. > > Here's where I need the help. > > I have received a message from one man on another list (published to the whole > list) stating that he has received the W95 virus from me with my e-mail. I am > writing to Northern because I am fairly confident, having checked via AVG, and > sending myself several e-mails, that I do not have a virus, and have not had > one! > > I also feel confident that Rootsweb will not let my mail in if it is infected. > > At the moment I am very worried, but when I have finished being worried, I am > going to be very angry! > > Hope no-one has cause to get angry with me! > > MARGED > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00 > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Visit the lists Pulse Page here, > http://212.19.69.91/north/ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

Hi Everyone Boxing Day - 18.50pm GMT I have just arrived home from my daughter's and switched on. We had a lovely time, and hope you all did too. The star of Christmas to us this year was Lucy, who sparkled the whole time we were there. Here's where I need the help. I have received a message from one man on another list (published to the whole list) stating that he has received the W95 virus from me with my e-mail. I am writing to Northern because I am fairly confident, having checked via AVG, and sending myself several e-mails, that I do not have a virus, and have not had one! I also feel confident that Rootsweb will not let my mail in if it is infected. At the moment I am very worried, but when I have finished being worried, I am going to be very angry! Hope no-one has cause to get angry with me! MARGED --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

Hi Everyone, Hope you all had a good Christmas and too worse for wear. Brian B. has just called me and has asked me to put a message on for him. He's okay, not drunk, but Lineone is playing up and won't let him get on line. So this is the reason he is not sending any messages out to you all. He will be back just as soon as he is able to. Best wishes to you all. Pam Stoke on Trent

Probably means they are taking my money but not working for it. Sorry to any one trying to get in touch but it appears I can send out and not receive. Very much like Freeserve! Anyway, I might catch up with you later, if you get this. Brian B Lancashire, UK. [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Happy belated birthday Maggie, I knew someone on the list had a birthday around the same time as my daughters and I couldn't for the life of me remember :) My sons went to the Pokemon movie too. Seems to be the craze here and scooters. I remember the scooter when I was a kid, which was the poor kids bike. We used to make our own from wood and old pram wheels. The scooters we have just bought our sons for christmas are very hi-tech, hard wearing stainless steel, fold up and pack type with special keys. Hope they are still around next christmas, for the price we had to pay for them. Best wishes Angela Cyprus

Dave and Bryan, Just come on line to 53 e-mails, most of which are digest mode. Dave I checked connections, they are ok, it doesn't do it all the time, just sort of flickers the screen for a bit especially when reading the mail. It's bearable, so not to worry at this stage. Bryan, strictly tee-total on my part I'm afraid. I realized almost too late, almost 3 years ago that I never knew when to stop, and was allowing the drink to control me instead of the other way around :) I feel 100 times better now, and hopefully my liver has recuperated. All the best, Angela

I know that feeling well Glenda, many people have "Green Fingers" for gardening and have something else for Computers, me, I just seem to have the kiss of death for things that are inanimate. >From Bryan, The Wild Celt, Dum Spiro - Spero. ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda R. Wilson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 5:40 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Happy Birthday Maggie ! > Happy Birthday, Maggie ! > > Apparently from what Angela wrote, the birthday must be past. > I am sorry I missed it...when was it ? > > > My puter and I are having a session wherein we must come to > an agreement ! it must work ! I have done something to get > it messed up so am currently trying to untangle the problem > and get back to 'normal' again ... hope that this will be > soon. > > Take good care, > > Glenda > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Add a link to your website here, > http://pub23.bravenet.com/freelink/show.php?usernum=1926973379&cpv=1 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

Merry christmas Brian and all ! How is it the date of your posting is Wednesday 27th December Bri ? Best wishes angela Cyprus

Merry christmas Glenda, I also have experienced a lab pup, this one golden and named "Brian". We have lived through all of that destruction! Love Florida at this time of year, hope all is well, Anne "Glenda R. Wilson" wrote: > > Merry Christmas Anne, > > Your little "Charlie" reminds me of the time we had our black Lab pup > named "Bear" who had everything toppled over, torn up, plus the phone > was all chewed up and when we saw what all had happened...she just > "smiled" at us and wagged her tail merrily ! - didn't even have the > decency to act guilty ! Florida doesn't normally have snow, either. > > Regards, > > Glenda > > >Marion, how right you are, my christmas present, a pure white kitten > >"Charlie" has demolished our beautiful tree. Future daughter in law > >Elise, who is English and homesick for a 'white' christmas is absolutely > >devastated, as she says, not only does she have to put up with hot > >weather, the cat has ruined the tree. > > > >To al of my friends on this list. Merry Christmas and happy New Year. > > > >Anne, Melbourne, Australia, (very mild 24C today) > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list in mail mode send a message to > [email protected] > that contains the word unsubscribe and nothing else. > If you are in digest mode, then send the command instead to > [email protected]

Sure wish there were somebody that can 'heal' the puter problem in one easy step ! and in a very short time ! It is my own self that got it messed up...my happy little Mac workds perfect until I start to move things around to make room for other things...usually I don't have much trouble but now that I want to get all the ecards and everything...it doesn't want to cooperate ! Ugh ! Sure would love to see all the cards everyone has sent ! Help ! :o Glenda >I know that feeling well Glenda, many people have "Green Fingers" for >gardening and have something else for Computers, me, I just seem to have the >kiss of death for things that are inanimate. >>From Bryan, >The Wild Celt, >Dum Spiro - Spero. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Glenda R. Wilson <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 5:40 PM >Subject: [NTH-ENG] Happy Birthday Maggie ! > > >> Happy Birthday, Maggie ! >> >> Apparently from what Angela wrote, the birthday must be past. >> I am sorry I missed it...when was it ? >> >> >> My puter and I are having a session wherein we must come to >> an agreement ! it must work ! I have done something to get >> it messed up so am currently trying to untangle the problem >> and get back to 'normal' again ... hope that this will be >> soon. >> >> Take good care, >> >> Glenda

Hi Everyone, If you have emailed or sent anything to me over the last few days, please resend it; it seems that all has not been arriving in the Cyber-box and opening up. Lost about 30 just a short while ago and I know I lost a bunch yesterday as well as the day before. Thank you. Regards, Glenda

Happy Birthday, Maggie ! Apparently from what Angela wrote, the birthday must be past. I am sorry I missed it...when was it ? My puter and I are having a session wherein we must come to an agreement ! it must work ! I have done something to get it messed up so am currently trying to untangle the problem and get back to 'normal' again ... hope that this will be soon. Take good care, Glenda

Same to you David - wouldn't mind a stroll in Roundhay Park Mike in Jeddah ----- Original Message ----- From: David Spark To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Christmas Merry Christmas and a healthy,prosperous and succesful New Year to all contributors David Spark (Leeds, UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 3:20 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Christmas > > Bill Hine, Omemee, Ontario, Canada. > Born and raised, Bradford and Clayton, Manchester. > > Merry Christmas and a Joyous and Happy New Year, may all your dreams and > missing ancestors be found, and keep the old memories and banter going. > Bill. > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > This list also allows Trivia postings about the region as well as serious genealogy research postings. > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== Browse the archives, http://archiver.rootsweb.com/NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L/ Search the list archives, http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=NORTHERN-ENGLAND

A White Christmas in Shildon ! I can see it all clearly Marion - the chill - quiet roads - lights in pub windows - black ice in the morning - racing at Sedgefield? Mike in Jeddah ----- Original Message ----- From: Marion To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] A White Christmas Greeting to all on the List I'm jealous, only flurries of snow here , none lay :-( I hope everyone has had a very special day !! We are all stuffed full and have had a lovely day, going to relax in front of the TV for the evening now. Merry Christmas !!!!!!!!! Ho,ho,ho ! TTFN Marion the Merry LOL ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the list in mail mode send a message to [email protected] that contains the word unsubscribe and nothing else. If you are in digest mode, then send the command instead to [email protected]

Thank you Anne for the "Merry Christmas" - it is appreciated. My last dog was a golden retriever/golden Lab mix; trained by the time he came into my life. Very smart dog with lots of person- ality, Nugget was the best dog anyone could own and is dearly missed. I don't live in Florida now but in Indiana. Haven't been down to Florida since 1976 when I moved to Okinawa. From snowy Indiana, Glenda >Merry christmas Glenda, I also have experienced a lab pup, this one >golden and named "Brian". We have lived through all of that >destruction! Love Florida at this time of year, hope all is well, > >Anne > >"Glenda R. Wilson" wrote: >> >> Merry Christmas Anne, >> >> Your little "Charlie" reminds me of the time we had our black Lab pup >> named "Bear" who had everything toppled over, torn up, plus the phone >> was all chewed up and when we saw what all had happened...she just >> "smiled" at us and wagged her tail merrily ! - didn't even have the >> decency to act guilty ! Florida doesn't normally have snow, either. >> >> Regards, >> >> Glenda >> >> >Marion, how right you are, my christmas present, a pure white kitten >> >"Charlie" has demolished our beautiful tree. Future daughter in law >> >Elise, who is English and homesick for a 'white' christmas is absolutely >> >devastated, as she says, not only does she have to put up with hot >> >weather, the cat has ruined the tree. >> > >> >To al of my friends on this list. Merry Christmas and happy New Year. >> > >> >Anne, Melbourne, Australia, (very mild 24C today) >> >> ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ====

Marion, how right you are, my christmas present, a pure white kitten "Charlie" has demolished our beautiful tree. Future daughter in law Elise, who is English and homesick for a 'white' christmas is absolutely devastated, as she says, not only does she have to put up with hot weather, the cat has ruined the tree. To al of my friends on this list. Merry Christmas and happy New Year. Anne, Melbourne, Australia, (very mild 24C today) Marion wrote: > > The Twelve Cats of Christmas > On the first day of Christmas when I brought home my tree > My 12 cats were laughing at me > > On the second day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the third day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the fourth day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the fifth day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 5 shredded gifts > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the sixth day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 6 fallen angels > 5 shredded gifts > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the seventh day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 7 half-dead rodents > 6 fallen angels > 5 shredded gifts > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the eighth day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 8 shattered ornaments > 7 half-dead rodents > 6 fallen angels > 5 shredded gifts > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the ninth day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 9 chewed-through light strings > 8 shattered ornaments > 7 half-dead rodents > 6 fallen angels > 5 shredded gifts > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the tenth day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 10 tinsel hairballs > 9 chewed-through light strings > 8 shattered ornaments > 7 half-dead rodents > 6 fallen angels > 5 shredded gifts > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the eleventh day of Christmas I saw beneath my tree > 11 broken branches > 10 tinsel hairballs > 9 chewed-through light strings > 8 shattered ornaments > 7 half-dead rodents > 6 fallen angels > 5 shredded gifts > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > On the twelfth day of Christmas I looked at my poor tree > 12 cats a-climbing > 11 broken branches > 10 tinsel hairballs > 9 chewed-through light strings > 8 shattered ornaments > 7 half-dead rodents > 6 fallen angels > 5 shredded gifts > 4 males a-spraying > 3 missing Wise Men > 2 mangled garlands > and my 12 cats laughing at me > > Ho Ho,Ho!!! > Marion > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > There is a map showing the areas and Counties which this list covers highlighted in red here, > http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/

I'm jealous, only flurries of snow here , none lay :-( I hope everyone has had a very special day !! We are all stuffed full and have had a lovely day, going to relax in front of the TV for the evening now. Merry Christmas !!!!!!!!! Ho,ho,ho ! TTFN Marion the Merry LOL

Merry Christmas and a healthy,prosperous and succesful New Year to all contributors David Spark (Leeds, UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 3:20 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] Christmas > > Bill Hine, Omemee, Ontario, Canada. > Born and raised, Bradford and Clayton, Manchester. > > Merry Christmas and a Joyous and Happy New Year, may all your dreams and > missing ancestors be found, and keep the old memories and banter going. > Bill. > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > This list also allows Trivia postings about the region as well as serious genealogy research postings. > >