Hi Jean, Just in case you missed my posting about another church and war memorial site the link is below or accessible from my own site Links Page. It is: http://www.carog.com run by Carl Rogerson [email protected] [currently list organiser of Cheshire list] and if there is anything you want photographing in his [the north Cheshire] area he is always pleased to oblige. Brian B Lancashire, UK. Happy New Year to all. [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean White" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] What has happened ? > I have been getting email today. It has made up in quality any lack in > quantity. So far I have received census information for 1841 and 1851 for my > HADFIELD forebears. Then I got an email from another Hadfield cousin with > more information too.. > > There were photos of the gravestones of my GLEAVE Ggrandparents and several > of their children with many complete birth and death dates. Also included > was their farmhouse (built by my Henshall ggrand father) and the church > they attended. These were taken by Bill Moston who has a website for > Cheshire Churches. He put these photos on a temporary web site for me. Then > a lady on the Cheshire list sent me the address of a possible GLEAVE > relative. > > It certainly restores faith in the goodness of people when you receive such > generosity. > > Jean in Nova Scotia > > > Subject: [NTH-ENG] What has happened ? > > > > Hi Listers, > > > > No mail today. Something happen ? > > > > Checking, > > > > Glenda > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Visit the lists Pulse Page here, > http://212.19.69.91/north/ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 23/12/2000 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Morning Glenda, When you sent this it was 3:45am in the morning here ! We're obviously missing Marged's input already ........... Past 3 O'clock on a cold and frosty morning ! Just going to take my walk and collect the morning paper. Regards Dave > Hi Listers, > > No mail today. Something happen ? > > Checking, > > Glenda > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Browse the archives, > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/NORTHERN-ENGLAND-L/ > Search the list archives, > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=NORTHERN-ENGLAND > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22-Dec-00

That's what dads are for. Isn't it nice to know someone has such confidence in you? Thank you all for your good wishes. I did have a nice day but woke this morning to find a flat tyre on my car. Oh, well. Such is life. Brian B Lancashire, UK. Happy New Year to all. [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] family - who'd 'ave 'em? > Hi Brian, > Mydaughter has just asked me to build her a pc, something I know absolutely > nothing about, why is it that if your usefull about the house , they think > you can do anything?:-))) > Cheers > Danny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian B" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 4:33 PM > Subject: [NTH-ENG] family - who'd 'ave 'em? > > > > What a beut of a daughter I am lucky to have. > > > > Not only did she bring me my birthday present on time, but she got out of > > her sick bed to do it and even while I was in the pub. > > > > I arrived home to find my pressy on my favourite chair together with > cards. > > On top of that my pressy was a replica of a radio set we used a long time > > ago, in days gone by, and all that, which I didn't even know my daughter > > knew about. > > > > Wonderful world. > > > > Brian B > > Lancashire, UK. > > Happy New Year to all. > > > > [email protected] > > http://www.gortonian.com > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000 > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > There is a map showing the areas and Counties which this list covers > highlighted in red here, > > http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > This list also allows Trivia postings about the region as well as serious genealogy research postings. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 23/12/2000

Hi Jean, This is great news ! I am very happy for you to be able to locate this information on your family. And photos, too ! What a special thing this is. You struck pay dirt ! It is such a good feeling when things turn up. I found a new cousin, too. I noted the name of PEET on one of the lists and wrote inquiring about this, and a lady wrote back and asked me what name was I looking for. Abigail PEET who was married to RIGGS (my ggggggrandparents). This lady said the brother of Abigail's father is her father ! She said she had all kinds of information... all completed ! Real nice lady...so now, another found cousin; this makes about six so far. She also has the information on the RIGGS side ! So, this has been a good week for the both of us ! Take care, Glenda >I have been getting email today. It has made up in quality any lack in >quantity. So far I have received census information for 1841 and 1851 for my >HADFIELD forebears. Then I got an email from another Hadfield cousin with >more information too.. > >There were photos of the gravestones of my GLEAVE Ggrandparents and several >of their children with many complete birth and death dates. Also included >was their farmhouse (built by my Henshall ggrand father) and the church >they attended. These were taken by Bill Moston who has a website for >Cheshire Churches. He put these photos on a temporary web site for me. Then >a lady on the Cheshire list sent me the address of a possible GLEAVE >relative. > >It certainly restores faith in the goodness of people when you receive such >generosity. > >Jean in Nova Scotia > > >Subject: [NTH-ENG] What has happened ? > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> No mail today. Something happen ? >> >> Checking, >> >> Glenda

When visiting the Manchester Record Office the other day I saw a book that would interest any 'Hamer' researchers - at a glance it seemed to include a lot of data such as census details etc; it is only a small paperback so is not likely to be too expensive 'The History of Hamer' by Geoffrey Hamer published by Manchester Free Press Unit E3 Langford Trading Estate Thomas Street Salford M32 0JT

Hi all, Just in case I don't get online again today may I wish you and yours a very Happy New Year and may 2001 be your best year ever. Maggie

I have been getting email today. It has made up in quality any lack in quantity. So far I have received census information for 1841 and 1851 for my HADFIELD forebears. Then I got an email from another Hadfield cousin with more information too.. There were photos of the gravestones of my GLEAVE Ggrandparents and several of their children with many complete birth and death dates. Also included was their farmhouse (built by my Henshall ggrand father) and the church they attended. These were taken by Bill Moston who has a website for Cheshire Churches. He put these photos on a temporary web site for me. Then a lady on the Cheshire list sent me the address of a possible GLEAVE relative. It certainly restores faith in the goodness of people when you receive such generosity. Jean in Nova Scotia Subject: [NTH-ENG] What has happened ? > Hi Listers, > > No mail today. Something happen ? > > Checking, > > Glenda

Hi Listers, No mail today. Something happen ? Checking, Glenda

Hi Brian, Mydaughter has just asked me to build her a pc, something I know absolutely nothing about, why is it that if your usefull about the house , they think you can do anything?:-))) Cheers Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian B" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 4:33 PM Subject: [NTH-ENG] family - who'd 'ave 'em? > What a beut of a daughter I am lucky to have. > > Not only did she bring me my birthday present on time, but she got out of > her sick bed to do it and even while I was in the pub. > > I arrived home to find my pressy on my favourite chair together with cards. > On top of that my pressy was a replica of a radio set we used a long time > ago, in days gone by, and all that, which I didn't even know my daughter > knew about. > > Wonderful world. > > Brian B > Lancashire, UK. > Happy New Year to all. > > [email protected] > http://www.gortonian.com > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000 > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > There is a map showing the areas and Counties which this list covers highlighted in red here, > http://www.genealogy45.fsnet.co.uk/ >

Happy Birthday Brian Sue Kendal --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Good lord Becky I've not stirred for three days because we've got four inches of snow. Jim Sharpe Manchester U K ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: Canada! > In a message dated 12/29/00 11:18:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Hi Becky et al, my son spent some time working around Bismark, North Dakota > > some years ago and I remember him telling me that the parking places had > > cables provided to plug in to the cars [automobiles] in order to stop the > > engines freezing solid. > > > > Jim Sharpe Manchester UK > > > > Hi Jim, > Just a quick note before I go to lunch (something I haven't had the > privilege of in a long while). Yes, there are places to plug in your > vehicles. This does help tremendously with a cold start. However, sometimes > it is cold enough that the diesel (will turn to gel, engine shuts down) & air > lines will freeze up as you go down the road. This is what the additives > help tremendously with. Imagine, if you will, driving a vehicle which weighs > a minimum of 60,000 pounds (what that is in metric's I don't know) at 50 > miles an hour. The air lines have frozen, but you don't know that because > you haven't watched your gauges or maybe a gauge malfunctions. Then, you try > to brake & there is nothing there. There has to be at least 125 pounds of > air pressure for the brakes to function. My trucks, when loaded, weigh > between 40,000 & 72,000 pounds. It takes quite a lot to stop these trucks, > something that the average driver doesn't think about. There are some trucks > out there with the capability of loading heavier. Well, so much for a quick > comment on air brakes. > > Take care, > Becky > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG Anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 12/21/00 > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Don't forget you can also post your surnames or any other messages you may want to share in our on line forum message board, > http://amazingforums.com/forum/NORTH/forum.html > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 12/22/00

Hi, Winnipeg reminded of a time in the 1950s when I got itchy feet when I saw an advertisement for miners which was what I did at that time. I applied to some proprietary company and they sent me the papers saying my experience was what they were looking for. I read them and then approached my wife who shot it down immediately. Apparently the location was Northern Manitoba, the only way in was by light aeroplane and we got two weeks back in Winnipeg every six months. We were guaranteed a log cabin to ourselves and the ore was I think lead. I really fancied that job. Jim Sharpe Manchester U K ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: Canada! > In a message dated 12/29/00 5:27:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Hi, I used to semis drive out of Winnipeg servicing Radar bases across > > Canada and northern States, the only acess to some of the bases was to drive > > on old logging tracks and across frozen lakes in the winter, crossing the > > Frazer River in a truck on a rope bridge in winter is quite an ordeal, > > Regards Stan a pom > > A particularly trying ordeal I am sure! A rope bridge---not something I > would want to be on even if I were walking! > > Becky > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG Anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 12/21/00 > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > The aims of this list are to create a comradeship of Northerners and those descendent from Northerners which can be beneficial to tracing the family history of the region. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 12/22/00

In a message dated 30/12/00 18:45:08 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Whatever would you do if you had the 27" that fell in some places yesterday ? >> Over 2ft in one day!!! I presume that it is not usual for that amount to fall in one day. The temperatures have hovered around freezing all day again today. At least I managed to get the shower working again. For some reason the hot water supply to it freezes. I live in an old house, no felt under the tiles so the wind blows straight in and out again. The pipes are lagged well but for some reason this particular pipe will freeze as it crosses the cold water pipe as it stands up a bit. Anyway we think we have sorted it this time - I have turned the heating up so the landing is quite warm now and I have put the heating on in my son's bedroom. I usually keep the radiator's turned to the defrost setting but my middle son pointed out it was false economy to only keep low heat in an unused room and then have to pay a plumber to repair a burst pipe!!! I think what he was really complaining about was the fact that to get in the roof you have to pull yourself up through the loft hatch and I can't do it easily now - so guess who I call for !!! It is a very small trap door - just wide enough to get your shoulders through diagonally. Maggie

It's funny how kids stick things in their ears etc. My youngest son, aged about 5, told us he had stuck an eye from a rubber snake up his nose. This was a small round ball on a stalk. We took him to A & E but they couldn't see anything and said it must have dropped out. A couple of years later, when he had his adenoids out as he was having a lot of bother, guess what they found!!! Maggie

I think I may have posted this before but here goes again. Speaking as we are of photographs there is a lovely free calendar to download from Bayfair Magazine at www.bayfair.co.uk When you are on the site select the NEWS link and you will find twelve beautiful coloured pictures of Robin Hood's Bay a lovely unspoiled fishing village on the coast of North Yorkshire. There is one for each month. I did the download, printed them out, punched two holes, affixed hole reinforcements, fitted one of those paper laces with tags on and hey presto! I've got a beautiful calendar which reminds me of a holiday I spent there four years ago. Jim Sharpe Manchester U K ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean White <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Snowy photos > I had no trouble seeing one but couldn't find the other. It was a lovely > view though. > > Jean in Nova Scotia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian B" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 4:12 AM > Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Snowy photos > > > > Morning Sue, > > > > Hope you are well. > > > > I tried, Sue but couldn't get past their home page. > > > > Brian B > > Lancashire, UK. > > > > [email protected] > > http://www.gortonian.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 6:57 PM > > Subject: [NTH-ENG] Snowy Weather > > > > > > > Hi again > > > I've playing with the camera again and there are two photos of snowy > > Kendal > > > at this url http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00019817f00000001.jpg > > > Typically one of our dogs got in the way! > > > > > > Sue > > > Ps Be glad I didn't post the rest of the attempts - they were deleted > > before > > > they got to the computer! > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000 > > > > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > > The aims of this list are to create a comradeship of Northerners and > those > > descendent from Northerners which can be beneficial to tracing the family > > history of the region. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 23/12/2000 > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > > [email protected] > > A mailing list for those whose ancestors moved between County Durham and > > Yorkshire, discussion of the history and migration of the region as well > as for people looking for ancestors in either County. > > > > > > > ==== NORTHERN-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > The aims of this list are to create a comradeship of Northerners and those descendent from Northerners which can be beneficial to tracing the family history of the region. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 12/22/00

What a beut of a daughter I am lucky to have. Not only did she bring me my birthday present on time, but she got out of her sick bed to do it and even while I was in the pub. I arrived home to find my pressy on my favourite chair together with cards. On top of that my pressy was a replica of a radio set we used a long time ago, in days gone by, and all that, which I didn't even know my daughter knew about. Wonderful world. Brian B Lancashire, UK. Happy New Year to all. [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Glad to hear she's not colour pred. :-)) Brian B Lancashire, UK. [email protected] http://www.gortonian.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean White" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] The Month After Christmas > That reminds me of the time I took Elizabeth aged 6 to the doctor for her > yearly school checkup. He looked in her ear and said there is something red > in here. The red object was a red pencil lead tip. > > A month later, Catherine aged 3 complained her ear was sore. This time it > was a blue pencil tip. .......................[snip]................................. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - checked by AVG anti-virus system . Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000

Certainly peaceful is the right description ! So quiet and serene... Remembering, Glenda >The banks were like huge white frozen walls. Took a lot >of thawing that year to see ground again. I couldn't see out of my living >room window, as the snow was so deep. It was peaceful, though.

In a message dated 12/30/00 1:25:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > > Good lord Becky I've not stirred for three days because we've got four > inches of snow. > > Jim Sharpe Manchester U K > As much snow as we have, I have seen it worse. While we have had hard winters in the interim, in 1978 we had a surprise blizzard which lasted 3 days & literally everything's was shut down. When the weather broke, front-end loaders had to clear the way for traffic & main roads were barely passable for weeks. During the storm, people were stranded in places other than their homes with no provisions for a minimum of 3 days. Local restaurants were very popular as soon as these people were freed from their prisons. There were some that were trapped on oil rig sites out in the middle of nowhere, some of these were friends & family. One small box of provisions for 5 men did not last. By the time the front-end loaders got to these sites & the men drove out, the road was reduced to one lane with every quarter mile having a pull off for two-way traffic & the banks were so high you couldn't see over them. When I went to view the area, this was one spot that fascinated me. The banks were like huge white frozen walls. Took a lot of thawing that year to see ground again. I couldn't see out of my living room window, as the snow was so deep. It was peaceful, though. Becky Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 12/21/00

Whatever would you do if you had the 27" that fell in some places yesterday ? Four inches ! truly amazing ! Washington DC gets 1" and the whole city shuts down ! They are not equipped to handle snow. Indiana where there is about a 10" blanket of snow (probably more since I last checked but felt safe with that amount) Glenda >Good lord Becky I've not stirred for three days because we've got four >inches of snow. > >Jim Sharpe Manchester U K >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 4:52 PM >Subject: Re: [NTH-ENG] Fw: Canada! > > >> In a message dated 12/29/00 11:18:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> >> > Hi Becky et al, my son spent some time working around Bismark, North >Dakota >> > some years ago and I remember him telling me that the parking places had >> > cables provided to plug in to the cars [automobiles] in order to stop >the >> > engines freezing solid. >> > >> > Jim Sharpe Manchester UK >> > >> >> Hi Jim, >> Just a quick note before I go to lunch (something I haven't had the >> privilege of in a long while). Yes, there are places to plug in your >> vehicles. This does help tremendously with a cold start. However, >sometimes >> it is cold enough that the diesel (will turn to gel, engine shuts down) & >air >> lines will freeze up as you go down the road. This is what the additives >> help tremendously with. Imagine, if you will, driving a vehicle which >weighs >> a minimum of 60,000 pounds (what that is in metric's I don't know) at 50 >> miles an hour. The air lines have frozen, but you don't know that because >> you haven't watched your gauges or maybe a gauge malfunctions. Then, you >try >> to brake & there is nothing there. There has to be at least 125 pounds of >> air pressure for the brakes to function. My trucks, when loaded, weigh >> between 40,000 & 72,000 pounds. It takes quite a lot to stop these >trucks, >> something that the average driver doesn't think about. There are some >trucks >> out there with the capability of loading heavier. Well, so much for a >quick >> comment on air brakes. >> >> Take care, >> Becky