We all look at this differently, I don't much care where I end up but on cemeteries/graveyards I take this view- that the churches and chapels concerned were quite happy to take the burial fees from everyone, including those who had to scrape around to find the money, and should have to honour their contract to those who buried their relatives. I would wager that those buried at Methwold and those who buried them did not expect any digging up to happen.If the last burials at Methwold were in the late 1920s it is not that long ago there could still be people living who knew the interred. At the very least, in the case of a sale of a chapel the graves should be left as garden and the stones carefully conserved. At Lammas the grave of Anna Sewell ( Black Beauty) and others at the Old Quaker Meeting house met with a without permission, bulldozery end-the stones are set in a wall. And a plague on churchwardens/sextons etc everywhere who moved and broke up grave stones so that they could mow the grass more easily. Rosie. On 03/01/2012 21:58, David Booty wrote: > Perhaps we can get too excited about these things. > > A graveyard, or a place of worship, can only be preserved if someone pays > for it - who should that be? > > After the huge boom in Methodism in the late 18th and 19th C fizzled out, > hundreds of Methodist chapels fell out of use, and many are now private > houses or places of business. > > Our medieval ancestors reused space in graveyards again and again, which is > why you so often see that the churchyard has a higher ground level than the > church door. The graves of some of my own ancestors - at St. Peter Southgate > in Norwich, for example, are now replaced by housing. > > Only when the repeated re-use of graveyards was recognised in the 1850's as > a health hazard was the practice brought to an end and new corporation > burial grounds opened. Some of these are now in turn derelict and beg > questions about their future. > > Certainly I agree that records of who was buried where and memorial > inscriptions should be recorded before they are obliterated, but it is far > too late, at least in England, to worry too much about disturbing graves. We > have always done it - google "charnel house" if you don't take my word for > it. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Martin Fisher > Sent: 03 January 2012 20:16 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] Homes to be built on Methwold Methodist graveyard > > > Hello Rosie& Listers, > > Thank you, Rosie for sending this link. > > I have e-mailed the West Norfolk Planning Department > (borough.planning@west-norfolk.gov.uk) and told them of my objections to > this plan. I've said they should make every effort to contact families of > the dead before they desecrate the graveyard. > > Martin Fisher > > Researching COCKS in Hockwold and it's area (includes Methwold) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xpn11<xpn11@aol.com> > To: Nofolk list<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:17 > Subject: [NFK] Homes to be built on Methwold Methodist graveyard > > > http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/business-news/homes_to_be_built_on_a_methwold > _graveyard_1_3377747 > ust seen this and thought I would post it in case there is anyone on > he list who has an ancestor interred there and wants to make a last go > t looking at headstones or make a last minute objection. A shockingly > nsensitive bit of work from the planners, on the same line as that at > pwell a while back. > osie > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree... those interred deserve to be treated with the utmost care and respect. My Cobb ancestors, who helped to settle the states of Virginia, the Carolinas, and ultimately, Tennessee (and whom I believe to have originated in Norfolk) were buried in a family graveyard, which was flooded when the Tennessee Valley Authority built a dam and created Cherokee Lake: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=10643 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Reservoir We're still trying to find the records (if any) created beforehand! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: xpn11 <xpn11@aol.com> Date: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] Homes to be built on Methwold Methodist graveyard To: norfolk@rootsweb.com We all look at this differently, I don't much care where I end up but on cemeteries/graveyards I take this view- that the churches and chapels concerned were quite happy to take the burial fees from everyone, including those who had to scrape around to find the money, and should have to honour their contract to those who buried their relatives. I would wager that those buried at Methwold and those who buried them did not expect any digging up to happen.If the last burials at Methwold were in the late 1920s it is not that long ago there could still be people living who knew the interred. At the very least, in the case of a sale of a chapel the graves should be left as garden and the stones carefully conserved. At Lammas the grave of Anna Sewell ( Black Beauty) and others at the Old Quaker Meeting house met with a without permission, bulldozery end-the stones are set in a wall. And a plague on churchwardens/sextons etc everywhere who moved and broke up grave stones so that they could mow the grass more easily. Rosie. On 03/01/2012 21:58, David Booty wrote: > Perhaps we can get too excited about these things. > > A graveyard, or a place of worship, can only be preserved if someone pays > for it - who should that be? > > After the huge boom in Methodism in the late 18th and 19th C fizzled out, > hundreds of Methodist chapels fell out of use, and many are now private > houses or places of business. > > Our medieval ancestors reused space in graveyards again and again, which is > why you so often see that the churchyard has a higher ground level than the > church door. The graves of some of my own ancestors - at St. Peter Southgate > in Norwich, for example, are now replaced by housing. > > Only when the repeated re-use of graveyards was recognised in the 1850's as > a health hazard was the practice brought to an end and new corporation > burial grounds opened. Some of these are now in turn derelict and beg > questions about their future. > > Certainly I agree that records of who was buried where and memorial > inscriptions should be recorded before they are obliterated, but it is far > too late, at least in England, to worry too much about disturbing graves. We > have always done it - google "charnel house" if you don't take my word for > it. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Martin Fisher > Sent: 03 January 2012 20:16 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] Homes to be built on Methwold Methodist graveyard > > > Hello Rosie& Listers, > > Thank you, Rosie for sending this link. > > I have e-mailed the West Norfolk Planning Department > (borough.planning@west-norfolk.gov.uk) and told them of my objections to > this plan. I've said they should make every effort to contact families of > the dead before they desecrate the graveyard. > > Martin Fisher > > Researching COCKS in Hockwold and it's area (includes Methwold) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xpn11<xpn11@aol.com> > To: Nofolk list<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:17 > Subject: [NFK] Homes to be built on Methwold Methodist graveyard > > > http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/business-news/homes_to_be_built_on_a_methwold > _graveyard_1_3377747 > ust seen this and thought I would post it in case there is anyone on > he list who has an ancestor interred there and wants to make a last go > t looking at headstones or make a last minute objection. A shockingly > nsensitive bit of work from the planners, on the same line as that at > pwell a while back. > osie > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message