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    1. Re: [NFK] Neeed an expert
    2. Bob Rust
    3. Thanks to all for the info and explanation. The bit that intrigued me was that all the added comments were an expansion of or related to the shown definition. I just couldn't see the connection between working in a college and "club". Perhaps there were so few that the need wasn't seen for a special category. As my Norfolk granddad was wont to say, "The man who has finished learning is dead" Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Drage" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] Neeed an expert > You can find details such as survice of the instructions to both > enumerator, and abstractor here: > > http://histpop.org/ > > If you then click on Browse (at the top), then on the page that appears, > TNA census - other, on the left hand side, then select on the page that > appears the row for the 1891 census for England and Wales. > > Here you will find the instructions for the enumerator, the registrar, the > superintendent registrar and the abstracting clerks at the census office > (and also examples of all the various forms). > > The rear of the household schedule contains the initial set of > instructions for the filling in the the occupation column. > > This is to be checked by the enumerator, and the enumerator was then > expected to take correct the household schedule in a particular manner, by > crossing out. As the completed household schedules for 1891 have not > survived, this will not be able to be detected. > > The enumerator then completed the enumeration book (these are the > documents we currently have as the census). He then sent that to the > registrar. Thus any of the additional marks do not belong to the > enumerator. > > As far as I can understand, while the registrar did some checking of both > household schedule and enumeration book, this was only to ascertain that > th profession had been filled in in accordance. > > From thence, the household schedules went direct to the census office, and > the enumeration book to the superintendent registrar. > > The superintendent did some further partial and limited check of the > enumeration book, but again this does not go beyond checking the details > are in conformance with the instructions on the back of the household > schedule. > > The enumeration books were then sent to the census office. > > At the census office various clerks acted as abstractor of the > professions, and at this point had to identify the occupations and > professions into a number of distinct classes. As such I believe the mark > you indicate would have been included by the abstractor, rather than any > of the previous officials, as this is above and beyond the instructions on > the rear of the household schedule. > > Note that some of the pages at this location are damaged, and the full > list of professions at the end is therefore incomplete. I was therefore > unable to check that it was correct to assign a "college servant" to the > "club" category. It would certainly have been incorrect to class them as > domestic servants. > > regards > > Keith Drage > Swindon UK > > > On 14/05/2014 12:31, Dudley Diaper wrote: >> Nivard is right, the local checker used to write a standard term under >> occupation if the enumerator's description didn't fit the standard >> categories, to make the collection of statistics easier. So you may >> notice >> anyone entered as a Teacher will have "School" added, an errand boy may >> have >> "Porter" in another handwriting, etc. Many servants will have "Dom" added >> to >> remind that they should be counted under Domestic Servants. >> >> You may sometimes see a number added, too. In 1881, for example, an 059 >> was >> someone in "Club or College Service" >> >> All the best >> Dudley >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >> Behalf Of Bob Rust >> Sent: 14 May 2014 11:11 >> To: Norfolk >> Subject: [NFK] Neeed an expert >> >> Strictly not Norfolk but next door. >> I am transcribing 1891 Cambridge. >> In the Profession or Occupation column a college employee is shown, i.e. >> "college servant" , "college bedmaker" et al. >> Wherever this appears, at some later time has been written "Club" against >> the entry in an entirely different hand. >> I am curious as to why. Any of the learned listers able to help? >> >> Regards >> >> Bob >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >

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