HI, I know - and have asked for more information - still waiting for answers. Often people tell me they haven't got much to go on, but after questioning, they have more than they initially thought and they just didn't think to pass it on. Unfortunately, some people don't answer emails as quickly as I'd hope them to d - o so I try to get head by asking on the list. One never knows who is on any particular list and sometimes a person following the same branch(s) pops up and surprises me. King is like my BRIGGS - too many of them :) Many thanks for replying. Ann in very hot Perth. Subject: [NFK] KING surname Hi, the answers to some of this problem may be in the certificates of marriage 1882 and the death cert of ??? the marriage will give the father`s full name and occupation ...........what you have here is simply not enough with King for a surname .