On 10/05/2016, 7:23 AM, "Ian Layton via" <norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Here, I hope, is the Dropbox link for Chapter 5: > >https://www.dropbox.com/s/7pjgztzpu76i39i/NEW%20Chapter%205%20Edward.docx? >dl=0 > >Good luck! > >Ian > >On 18 April 2016 at 17:23, Tod Brown via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Re: John Henry Brown >> >> My apologies to those who spent so much time trying to find information >> about my gf, John Henry Brown. I did not intend for it to generate so >> much activity but I should have known, since I know how much the members >> of this board love to do research. I was trying to keep it simple and >> see if I could find out about some possible military service that my gf >> may have been involved in. >> >> I do know much more about JHB and I have traced him through all of the >> censuses from 1871 to 1901 which is where I have lost him. As others >> have discovered, he lived in Halvergate while very young and then moved >> with his family to Yarmouth where they resided for about 20 years. >> Around 1890, the family, with some of the children, moved to Byker, in >> Newcastle. I am guessing that it was a result of the decline in boat >> building in Yarmouth that precipitated the move. Altogether, Elizabeth >> Hannah Howard and Samuel Brown had 13(!) children, the last two born in >> Newcastle. The last child, named for the mother, died at birth or >> shortly after. The other child born in Newcastle is mid-identified in >> some censuses. Her correct name is Isabella Myra. In 1892, John Henry >> was recruited by a coal-mining company in Pennsylvania and traveled to >> Philadelphia to join workers in the coal fields. He did not last long, >> for in 1893 he had met and married his wife, my grandmother, Ellen >> Blemmings, who was born in Glaslough, County Monaghan, Ireland, in 1863. >> They were married in Philadelphia. The couple returned to the Newcastle >> area after their marriage and it was there that my father, John Albert >> Brown, was born in 1895. On my father's birth reg it identifies JHB as a >> "wire rope maker". By 1901, another child, a daughter, also Ellen, had >> been born (1898) and the family was living outside of Bradford and JHB >> was a "carter for railway". When JHB and EB were married, JHB identified >> himself as a "coachman". In 1902, one more child, Margaret, was born. By >> 1909, JHB had abandoned the family and Ellen and the three children had >> come to Philadelphia where Ellen's sister was living. Four years later, >> in 1913, Ellen died, leaving her unmarried sister, Margaret, to raise >> the children. >> >> JHB may have had a drinking problem, as that is the family lore. My >> father clearly was very ashamed of his background and never revealed any >> of the circumstances of his arrival in America to me. On the other hand, >> he was quite prone to fabricating stories and one of the recurring ones >> was that his father was in the military. I have discovered in my journey >> to uncover my father's story (and there is quite a lot to it!) that >> often times there was a kernel of truth in his tales, hence the query >> about his father's military connection. It does not seem likely however, >> given what I have found, but you never know. >> >> In the past, there have been some folks on this board, Ian Layton in >> particular, who have helped me enormously in tracing my family back in >> Merry Olde. I have made one unforgettable trip to Norfolk and walked >> around in the churchyards of Halvergate, Reedham, Wickhampton and >> Cantley to visit some of my ancestors. Ian and I visited the grave of >> Edward Layton, my third and Ian's fourth great gf in Cantley. Edward and >> his first cousin, Sarah Browne, had two illegitimate children, the >> second, John, being my gg-gf (hence my surname). You can find some of >> Edward's story in the archives of this Board, if you care to. An >> interesting genealogical detective story as it were. >> >> I began my search for my ancestry when my father died in 1988. Until >> that time, my knowledge of his lineage was spotty, at best, and often >> contradictory due to his fabrications. Until just before he died, he had >> maintained that he had been born in Virginia. It was only literally on >> his deathbed that he told me one day, quite out of the blue, that he had >> been born in England. I realized then that I had to find out and I have >> been at it ever since. What I have found has been exciting, >> exhilarating, scandalous, puzzling at times and occasionally >> heartbreaking, but it is my story and it now can be passed on to my >> daughters and their children. What I have discovered has been >> life-changing and extremely personal, probably enough to fill a book >> (maybe some day). As all of you know, you can only know yourself when >> you know where you came from. Thank you all for all your help. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/18/2016 3:00 AM, norfolk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. John Henry Brown (Gloria) >> > 2. 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