2nd edition only came out at end of April - seems to have taken a while to appear on UK websites. It is not even up on the publishers site yet! I asked the publisher about the changes - this is what they said: "If you have the first edition you won’t need this new one - there were a couple of copy errors to correct in the first edition (e.g. a reference to marriage to a “brother’s husband” rather than a “husband’s brother”), minor updates to the law where it now relates to same-sex marriages, and a couple of additional examples of interesting cases that had been raised by readers." regards Keith On 26-May-16 5:34 PM, Donna Casey wrote: > Keith, > "Marriage Law for Genealogists" is on Amazon.com and offered with both 2012 and 2016 versions. > Same author, same title, different cover. > Donna > > > > ________________________________ > From: Keith Drage <drageke@ntlworld.com> > To: Donna Casey <donnacasey@yahoo.com>; Norfolk FreeREG <freereg.norfolk@gmail.com>; "norfolk@rootsweb.com" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [NFK] Re :Illegitimate comments by vicars - thanks > > > The copy I have is dated "First published in 2012" and I cannot see a > later version referenced anywhere. > > As a university academician she has published a number of books on this > subject and related issues. > > Are you perhaps referring to "Divorced, Bigamist, Bereaved?" which is > the later book addressed to a family history readership, but not > covering the same subject matter. I have not got this one, but if the > thoroughly readable style persists then it is probably worth also reading. > > Her full list of publications can be accessed from here: > > http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/people/probert > > regards > > Keith > > > On 26-May-16 4:05 PM, Donna Casey wrote: >> Keith, Do you happen to know if the new version (2016) has any distinct advantages/information over the 2012 version of this publication. >> It looks as if it might be a very handy resource. >> Donna TILLINGHAST Casey >> Michigan, USA >> >> Duty first, self second. >> Lilibet >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Keith Drage via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> To: Norfolk FreeREG <freereg.norfolk@gmail.com>; norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [NFK] Re :Illegitimate comments by vicars - thanks >> >> >> The cleric was however wrong, at least for the period under discussion. >> >> In England and Wales, between 1660 (the restoration) and 1835, such a >> marriage was only void if challenged in the courts during the lifetime >> of the participants and ruled to be so. >> >> The assumption is that if that had occurred, the cleric would have >> mentioned it. >> >> As such the child was not a bastard. >> >> If the marriage had occurred after 1835 (and before 1907), it would have >> been void, i.e. as if it had never occurred. This law change also >> rendered any such marriage that had not been previously challenged made >> before 1835. >> >> The 1907 change removed the restriction on marrying deceased wife's >> sister, and also made valid any such prior marriages. >> >> I recommend Rebecca Probert's Marriage Law for Genealogists. >> >> regards >> >> Keith Drage >> Swindon UK >> >> >> On 26-May-16 2:25 PM, Norfolk FreeREG via wrote: >>> Hi Linda, >>> >>> I have just come across one that might interest you. >>> >>> Broxted in Essex >>> 28 Mar 1773 Samuel son of John and Sarah FRANKLIN >>> Sarah his wife so called (having privily married and contrary to >>> express statute * his late wifes sister in blood); this child in the >>> eye of the law is a bastard and the marriage null and void >>> >>> Julie >>> >>> On 15 May 2016 at 18:25, Linda Wright via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> Well you lovely people you certainly came up trumps. Thank you all so much who sent me examples some off list. I knew that you wouldn’t let me down! >>>> >>>> They were certainly different times. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>
Thanks for checking that.I hunted around for some information but did not call publisher.Thanks. Have purchased the earlier version since I was able to get it at a much more affordable price.Thanks again, I believe the section/s referring to laws etc., for the 17th C will help me a great deal.Donna Duty first, self second.Lilibet From: Keith Drage <drageke@ntlworld.com> To: Donna Casey <donnacasey@yahoo.com>; Norfolk FreeREG <freereg.norfolk@gmail.com>; "norfolk@rootsweb.com" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 12:00 PM Subject: Marriage Law for Genealogists: was [NFK] Re :Illegitimate comments by vicars - thanks 2nd edition only came out at end of April - seems to have taken a while to appear on UK websites. It is not even up on the publishers site yet! I asked the publisher about the changes - this is what they said: "If you have the first edition you won’t need this new one - there were a couple of copy errors to correct in the first edition (e.g. a reference to marriage to a “brother’s husband” rather than a “husband’s brother”), minor updates to the law where it now relates to same-sex marriages, and a couple of additional examples of interesting cases that had been raised by readers." regards Keith On 26-May-16 5:34 PM, Donna Casey wrote: > Keith, > "Marriage Law for Genealogists" is on Amazon.com and offered with both 2012 and 2016 versions. > Same author, same title, different cover. > Donna > > > > ________________________________ > From: Keith Drage <drageke@ntlworld.com> > To: Donna Casey <donnacasey@yahoo.com>; Norfolk FreeREG <freereg.norfolk@gmail.com>; "norfolk@rootsweb.com" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [NFK] Re :Illegitimate comments by vicars - thanks > > > The copy I have is dated "First published in 2012" and I cannot see a > later version referenced anywhere. > > As a university academician she has published a number of books on this > subject and related issues. > > Are you perhaps referring to "Divorced, Bigamist, Bereaved?" which is > the later book addressed to a family history readership, but not > covering the same subject matter. I have not got this one, but if the > thoroughly readable style persists then it is probably worth also reading. > > Her full list of publications can be accessed from here: > > http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/people/probert > > regards > > Keith > > > On 26-May-16 4:05 PM, Donna Casey wrote: >> Keith, Do you happen to know if the new version (2016) has any distinct advantages/information over the 2012 version of this publication. >> It looks as if it might be a very handy resource. >> Donna TILLINGHAST Casey >> Michigan, USA >> >> Duty first, self second. >> Lilibet >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Keith Drage via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> To: Norfolk FreeREG <freereg.norfolk@gmail.com>; norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [NFK] Re :Illegitimate comments by vicars - thanks >> >> >> The cleric was however wrong, at least for the period under discussion. >> >> In England and Wales, between 1660 (the restoration) and 1835, such a >> marriage was only void if challenged in the courts during the lifetime >> of the participants and ruled to be so. >> >> The assumption is that if that had occurred, the cleric would have >> mentioned it. >> >> As such the child was not a bastard. >> >> If the marriage had occurred after 1835 (and before 1907), it would have >> been void, i.e. as if it had never occurred. This law change also >> rendered any such marriage that had not been previously challenged made >> before 1835. >> >> The 1907 change removed the restriction on marrying deceased wife's >> sister, and also made valid any such prior marriages. >> >> I recommend Rebecca Probert's Marriage Law for Genealogists. >> >> regards >> >> Keith Drage >> Swindon UK >> >> >> On 26-May-16 2:25 PM, Norfolk FreeREG via wrote: >>> Hi Linda, >>> >>> I have just come across one that might interest you. >>> >>> Broxted in Essex >>> 28 Mar 1773 Samuel son of John and Sarah FRANKLIN >>> Sarah his wife so called (having privily married and contrary to >>> express statute * his late wifes sister in blood); this child in the >>> eye of the law is a bastard and the marriage null and void >>> >>> Julie >>> >>> On 15 May 2016 at 18:25, Linda Wright via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> Well you lovely people you certainly came up trumps. Thank you all so much who sent me examples some off list. I knew that you wouldn’t let me down! >>>> >>>> They were certainly different times. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>