Hi Carol My g grandfather Norman Bamber was not married to my g grandmother, Fanny Shenton, when my maternal grandmother Florence Nellie Shenton was born in 1884. Norman went on to marry Clara Jane Teague in 1888, but not before they had 2 children, Orlando in 1886 and Norman in 1887. They went on to have 5 more children. Meanwhile Fanny married Daniel Pulling in 1885 and they went on to have 6 children. I can find no evidence of my grandmother ever living with her mother. She appears to have been raised by her father and stepmother. My g grandmother was not a good mother. Her husband and children all spent time in a workhouse, but she did not. Daniel worked hard to get his children out of the workhouse. Fanny eventually died as the result of alcohol. To answer your question, yes, I believe a man could have custody of his son if there was a woman in the picture to help raise the child. Wendy, Australia This is not truly related to Norfolk alone but I wondered if anyone could answer a query for me. My great grandfather seems to have had a illegitimate son in 1885 -g-g-grandfather marries as a bachelor in 1887 and again as a widower in 1890. My query is - would he have custody of the son born 1885 if the mother was still alive. I have searched for a death for her but found nothing. The surname of the wife in 1887 is not the surname of the mother of the son born in 1885. The child is with my great grandfather on census returns in 1891 and 1901. I seem to have been going around in circles trying to work this out and thought it was time to try the experts on the Norfolk Mailing List . Thank you in anticipation Carol

Thank you for that Wendy - another line to take - I will check to see if the mother married someone else. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Wendy Cooksey via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Carol > > My g grandfather Norman Bamber was not married to my g grandmother, Fanny > Shenton, when my maternal grandmother Florence Nellie Shenton was born in > 1884. > > Norman went on to marry Clara Jane Teague in 1888, but not before they had > 2 > children, Orlando in 1886 and Norman in 1887. They went on to have 5 more > children. > > Meanwhile Fanny married Daniel Pulling in 1885 and they went on to have 6 > children. I can find no evidence of my grandmother ever living with her > mother. She appears to have been raised by her father and stepmother. > > My g grandmother was not a good mother. Her husband and children all spent > time in a workhouse, but she did not. Daniel worked hard to get his > children out of the workhouse. Fanny eventually died as the result of > alcohol. > > To answer your question, yes, I believe a man could have custody of his son > if there was a woman in the picture to help raise the child. > > > Wendy, Australia > > This is not truly related to Norfolk alone but I wondered if anyone could > answer a query for me. My great grandfather seems to have had a > illegitimate son in 1885 -g-g-grandfather marries as a bachelor in 1887 > and > again as a widower in 1890. My query is - would he have custody of the son > born 1885 if the mother was still alive. I have searched for a death for > her but found nothing. The surname of the wife in 1887 is not the surname > of the mother of the son born in 1885. The child is with my great > grandfather on census returns in 1891 and 1901. I seem to have been going > around in circles trying to work this out and thought it was time to try > the > experts on the Norfolk Mailing List . Thank you in anticipation Carol > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >