The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry for Cecil Frances Alexander identifies " John Humphreys, a second lieutenant in the Royal Marines and later brigade major in the Tyrone yeomanry" and "Milltown House, Strabane, co. Tyrone, where Major Humphreys served as agent to the marquess of Abercorn". I would have thought the first line of attack would be to identify any Royal Marine records, for which you will have to visit The National Archives to see (there is virtually nothing online), and which might contain a place of birth. Records you should be looking at: ADM 6/406 Register of Marine officers' commissions, including warrants to Marine Surgeons, Agents, &c.. 1755-1814 Possibly also ADM118/230-336, ADM192 If a service record still exists it should be in ADM196 but this is indexed and he does not appear. See also: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/royal-marines-officers/ Have you researched the Tyrone Yeomanry? The Wikipedia page for Cecil Frances Alexander does give a number of references. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Frances_Alexander Have you researched all of these, and do any of these contain more information on the father? www.thepeerage.com identifies John Humphrey as Deputy Lieutenant (presumably for the county of Tyrone) and gives as a reference for this: Montgomery-Massingberd, Hugh. /Burke's Irish Family Records/. London, U.K.: Burkes Peerage Ltd, 1976 Is there more information here? Another source of information might be the Abercorn family papers, though it is not clear how much survices for this period. See Public Record Office of Northern Ireland. regards Keith Drage Swindon UK On 09/02/2016 13:45, J Dyble via wrote: > He was married in 1818 in Dublin. I do not have any army records just a book saying he was a major in the marrines at Copenhagen 1801. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Peter J Richardson via" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 09/02/2016 13:37 > To: "norfolk@rootsweb.com" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NFK] Major john Humphreys > > Hello Jeremy, > > What do you know already? Do you have his army records? Did he live long > enough to appear on census information? Do you know where he lived after > discharge and where and when he died or have any details of other family > members? > > In other words please give us any clues that already have. > > Regards > Peter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of J Dyble via > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 13:25 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Major john Humphreys > > Hi > > Does anyone know of the birthplace of major john Humphreys born about 1780 > in Norfolk. > > Thx Jeremy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Incidently, if he was at Copenhagen under Nelson in 1801, he should be listed on the relevant muster book for that quarter at The National Archives, and that should give his place of birth. There were 30 odd ships in Nelson's division, but not all of them would have been large enough to carry any marines - so accomplishing this in a days work might well be possible. Also, once you have one muster book entry you should also be able to work backwards and forwards and trace the rest of his Royal Marines career. Wikipedia and other sources list the ships present at Copenhagen. regards Keith Drage Swindon UK On 09/02/2016 15:31, Keith Drage via wrote: > The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry for Cecil Frances > Alexander identifies " John Humphreys, a second lieutenant in the Royal > Marines and later brigade major in the Tyrone yeomanry" and "Milltown > House, Strabane, co. Tyrone, where Major Humphreys served as agent to > the marquess of Abercorn". > > I would have thought the first line of attack would be to identify any > Royal Marine records, for which you will have to visit The National > Archives to see (there is virtually nothing online), and which might > contain a place of birth. > > Records you should be looking at: > > ADM 6/406 > Register of Marine officers' commissions, including warrants to Marine > Surgeons, Agents, &c.. > 1755-1814 > > Possibly also ADM118/230-336, ADM192 > > If a service record still exists it should be in ADM196 but this is > indexed and he does not appear. > > See also: > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/royal-marines-officers/ > > Have you researched the Tyrone Yeomanry? > > The Wikipedia page for Cecil Frances Alexander does give a number of > references. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Frances_Alexander > > Have you researched all of these, and do any of these contain more > information on the father? > > www.thepeerage.com identifies John Humphrey as Deputy Lieutenant > (presumably for the county of Tyrone) and gives as a reference for this: > > Montgomery-Massingberd, Hugh. /Burke's Irish Family Records/. London, > U.K.: Burkes Peerage Ltd, 1976 > > Is there more information here? > > Another source of information might be the Abercorn family papers, > though it is not clear how much survices for this period. See Public > Record Office of Northern Ireland. > > regards > > Keith Drage > Swindon UK > > > On 09/02/2016 13:45, J Dyble via wrote: >> He was married in 1818 in Dublin. I do not have any army records just a book saying he was a major in the marrines at Copenhagen 1801. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Peter J Richardson via" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: 09/02/2016 13:37 >> To: "norfolk@rootsweb.com" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [NFK] Major john Humphreys >> >> Hello Jeremy, >> >> What do you know already? Do you have his army records? Did he live long >> enough to appear on census information? Do you know where he lived after >> discharge and where and when he died or have any details of other family >> members? >> >> In other words please give us any clues that already have. >> >> Regards >> Peter >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of J Dyble via >> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 13:25 >> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NFK] Major john Humphreys >> >> Hi >> >> Does anyone know of the birthplace of major john Humphreys born about 1780 >> in Norfolk. >> >> Thx Jeremy >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Keith A big thank you for all this help. He is a relative to my wife. I now have enough to keep me busy. Cheers Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: "Keith Drage via" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: 09/02/2016 15:31 To: "norfolk@rootsweb.com" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NFK] Major john Humphreys The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry for Cecil Frances Alexander identifies " John Humphreys, a second lieutenant in the Royal Marines and later brigade major in the Tyrone yeomanry" and "Milltown House, Strabane, co. Tyrone, where Major Humphreys served as agent to the marquess of Abercorn". I would have thought the first line of attack would be to identify any Royal Marine records, for which you will have to visit The National Archives to see (there is virtually nothing online), and which might contain a place of birth. Records you should be looking at: ADM 6/406 Register of Marine officers' commissions, including warrants to Marine Surgeons, Agents, &c.. 1755-1814 Possibly also ADM118/230-336, ADM192 If a service record still exists it should be in ADM196 but this is indexed and he does not appear. See also: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/royal-marines-officers/ Have you researched the Tyrone Yeomanry? The Wikipedia page for Cecil Frances Alexander does give a number of references. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Frances_Alexander Have you researched all of these, and do any of these contain more information on the father? www.thepeerage.com identifies John Humphrey as Deputy Lieutenant (presumably for the county of Tyrone) and gives as a reference for this: Montgomery-Massingberd, Hugh. /Burke's Irish Family Records/. London, U.K.: Burkes Peerage Ltd, 1976 Is there more information here? Another source of information might be the Abercorn family papers, though it is not clear how much survices for this period. See Public Record Office of Northern Ireland. regards Keith Drage Swindon UK On 09/02/2016 13:45, J Dyble via wrote: > He was married in 1818 in Dublin. I do not have any army records just a book saying he was a major in the marrines at Copenhagen 1801. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Peter J Richardson via" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 09/02/2016 13:37 > To: "norfolk@rootsweb.com" <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NFK] Major john Humphreys > > Hello Jeremy, > > What do you know already? Do you have his army records? Did he live long > enough to appear on census information? Do you know where he lived after > discharge and where and when he died or have any details of other family > members? > > In other words please give us any clues that already have. > > Regards > Peter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of J Dyble via > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 13:25 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Major john Humphreys > > Hi > > Does anyone know of the birthplace of major john Humphreys born about 1780 > in Norfolk. > > Thx Jeremy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message