I believe C Berry was addressed in one of the Who do you think you are - Uk programs I've seen so many on YouTube I can't recall which celebrity has him as an ancestor but maybe someone else does Best Pam Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2016, at 2:00 AM, norfolk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. BERRY (elizgh@btinternet.com) > 2. Re: GOODY (Bob Vine) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:08:40 +0100 > From: <elizgh@btinternet.com> > Subject: [NFK] BERRY > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <84B820A2A720468BA5DFCEDA6010FE69@userPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi again , Christopher Berry is a bankrupt by 1812 according the Norwich Chronicle and various properties are being auctioned to cover his debts . Lot 3 is a comfortable and convenient dwelling house in good repair in the occupation of Mr Christopher Berry , fronting Pottergate St. His widow Mary Berry aged 50, widow of the late Mr Christopher Berry , printer and bookseller died in March 1837, in St Giles Norwich . Earlier in June 1809 there is a further commission for anyone owing money to Christopher Berry , the elder and Robert Rochester , of the city of Norwich , booksellers, stationers, dealer, chapmen and partners, bankrupts , are required to make their payments to the Union Bank. In 1810 the partnership between Christopher and John Berry is dissolved by mutual consent and all payments and debts will be paid and received by Christopher Berry who is carrying on the business . Again in 1809 a notice is put in the Norfolk Ch! r! > onicle to state that Christopher Berry , junr, and John Berry , sons of the late John Berry are completely unconnected with the firm of Berry and Rochester , printing and bookselling in Dove Lane Norwich . 1748 is the earliest date in the Britishnewspaperarchive of Christopher Berry and his firm of Booksellers, printers etc. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 10:42:50 +1200 > From: Bob Vine <bob.vine@paradise.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY > To: elizgh@btinternet.com, norfolk@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <004201d18dfa$27b77550$77265ff0$%vine@paradise.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Please have a look at > http://bobvine.gen.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ChristopherBerry3LivesPt1.p > df which shows where the Underwoods come in. What started me on tracing the > full story were the Baptisms of John Berry on 27 Dec 1802 and Christopher > Christmas Berry just 18 days later, both with the same parents, same Church. > The conclusion I came to was that John and Christopher were one and the > same. This was eventually proven with the discovery of the Marriage of > "Christopher Christmas Underwood" to Elizabeth Newdick, 6 June 1822, St > Nicholas, Kings Lynn and the Banns notices which gave "Salmon" his obviously > adopted mother's maiden name as an alias. QED! > Freereg has another Underwood connected Baptism: Maria Underwood Berry, > daughter of Christopher and Margaret, St Nicholas, King's Lynn, 29 January > 1799. It occurs to me that something catastrophic occurred within the > Underwood family that must have had some connection to the Berry family. I > am still working on this one and have in mind a search of Workhouse records. > > Cheers > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: elizgh@btinternet.com [mailto:elizgh@btinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 1:42 AM > To: Bob Vine; norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] GOODY > > Hi , Freereg has the baptism of a > Christopher Christmas Berry at St Nicholas King`s Lynn on 14th Jan 1803 , > his birth date is given as 25th Dec 1802 . He is the son of Christopher and > Elizabeth Berry . Christopher Berry married Elizabeth Salmon in St > Nicholas King`s Lynn on 23 Jan 1800 , she may have been the dau or sister of > > Samuel Salmon who witnesses the marriage . However there is a bapt in St > Margaret`s King`s Lynn of a John son of Christopher and Elisabeth Berry , > 27th Dec 1802 . No date of birth is given for this John in the register . > I am not sure where the Underwoods come in . > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Vine via > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 6:00 AM > To: 'Christine Benson' ; norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY > > This below might provide an answer to a conundrum that has been bugging me > for some years now. My target relates to a Christopher Christmas Berry whose > first Baptism (there were actually 4 which has exacerbated my search) as > John Christmas Underwood, parents William Underwood and Mary Gooddy, All > Saints, Norwich 8 January 1797 having been born according to the > transcription of the Parish Register, 15 December 1796. A later Baptism > record carries a note "Born Christmas Day". Looking closely at the image > from the Register there is a strong possibility that the "15" is actually > "25". Any way that is off the subject. > It now occurs to me, from that below, that "Gooddy" could be an abbreviation > for "My Goodwife" and not the surname of his Birth Mother. I have tried to > verify this from records but have not been able to do find anything that > provides a true "link". > The closest I can get to discovery is a Marriage Transcription, Mary > Ditchfield and William Underwood, Norwich 10 May 1787 through findmypast. > Is there someone out there please who could provide a link to verify that > this Mary (Anne) Ditchfield is the mother of John Christmas Underwood? > My research for C C Berry may be found at http://bobvine.gen.nz/ Thank you > Bob Judy & Bob's Place > 11 Ngaio Crescent, Lower Hutt 5010, NEW ZEALAND > Tel: 64 4 9711192 > Mobile NZ: +64 21510682 > Mobile: when in Australia: +61 4523308354 > Skype: bobvine > Website: www.bobvine.nz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Benson [mailto:christinebenson313@btinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:34 AM > To: Norfolk Mailing List > Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY > > Hi All, > > I have always believed it to be an abbreviation of Goodwife and a title like > Mrs. However, looking for Goody as a forename in Ancestry I found several. > Some looked as if Goody was given as a surname used as a forename but there > were several where Goody was the only forename at birth. > > So it seems to me that both possibilities exist. > > Christine > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NORFOLK list administrator, send an email to > NORFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NORFOLK mailing list, send an email to NORFOLK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NORFOLK Digest, Vol 11, Issue 37 > ***************************************

If it was Norwich and he is the printer it was Mary Berry the cookery writer of BBC British Bake Off fame. It might be available on iplayer catch up in the UK or on You Tube. Goody I have only seen in burials for older or widowed women. I have not come across it in marriages. Goody is a surname found in East Anglia As Underwoods were ten a penny on Timberhill and vicinity in Norwich, enough perhaps to occasion a coincidence of baptismal names rather than a link between Norwich and Lynn and there were plenty of Underwoods in Lynn to provide a maiden name and even cousin name duplication with Berrys I think I would be concentrating on all the Lynn churches. Especially if the earlier Berrys were mariners. This caught my eye because there were / are Berry and Newdick families in the village near KL where I spent part of my childhood. And some of my husband's family lived on and around Clough Lane Lynn . The Middleton near Kings Lynn Berrys might be worth a look to see if they are descended from a left behind Elizabeth Newdick/Berry. Very interesting web site Bob . Rosie On 04/04/2016 16:50, PS via wrote: > I believe C Berry was addressed in one of the Who do you think you are - Uk programs > I've seen so many on YouTube I can't recall which celebrity has him as an ancestor but maybe someone else does > Best > Pam > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 4, 2016, at 2:00 AM, norfolk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. BERRY (elizgh@btinternet.com) >> 2. Re: GOODY (Bob Vine) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:08:40 +0100 >> From: <elizgh@btinternet.com> >> Subject: [NFK] BERRY >> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <84B820A2A720468BA5DFCEDA6010FE69@userPC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi again , Christopher Berry is a bankrupt by 1812 according the Norwich Chronicle and various properties are being auctioned to cover his debts . Lot 3 is a comfortable and convenient dwelling house in good repair in the occupation of Mr Christopher Berry , fronting Pottergate St. His widow Mary Berry aged 50, widow of the late Mr Christopher Berry , printer and bookseller died in March 1837, in St Giles Norwich . Earlier in June 1809 there is a further commission for anyone owing money to Christopher Berry , the elder and Robert Rochester , of the city of Norwich , booksellers, stationers, dealer, chapmen and partners, bankrupts , are required to make their payments to the Union Bank. In 1810 the partnership between Christopher and John Berry is dissolved by mutual consent and all payments and debts will be paid and received by Christopher Berry who is carrying on the business . Again in 1809 a notice is put in the Norfolk Ch! > r! >> onicle to state that Christopher Berry , junr, and John Berry , sons of the late John Berry are completely unconnected with the firm of Berry and Rochester , printing and bookselling in Dove Lane Norwich . 1748 is the earliest date in the Britishnewspaperarchive of Christopher Berry and his firm of Booksellers, printers etc. >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 10:42:50 +1200 >> From: Bob Vine <bob.vine@paradise.net.nz> >> Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY >> To: elizgh@btinternet.com, norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <004201d18dfa$27b77550$77265ff0$%vine@paradise.net.nz> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Please have a look at >> http://bobvine.gen.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ChristopherBerry3LivesPt1.p >> df which shows where the Underwoods come in. What started me on tracing the >> full story were the Baptisms of John Berry on 27 Dec 1802 and Christopher >> Christmas Berry just 18 days later, both with the same parents, same Church. >> The conclusion I came to was that John and Christopher were one and the >> same. This was eventually proven with the discovery of the Marriage of >> "Christopher Christmas Underwood" to Elizabeth Newdick, 6 June 1822, St >> Nicholas, Kings Lynn and the Banns notices which gave "Salmon" his obviously >> adopted mother's maiden name as an alias. QED! >> Freereg has another Underwood connected Baptism: Maria Underwood Berry, >> daughter of Christopher and Margaret, St Nicholas, King's Lynn, 29 January >> 1799. It occurs to me that something catastrophic occurred within the >> Underwood family that must have had some connection to the Berry family. I >> am still working on this one and have in mind a search of Workhouse records. >> >> Cheers >> Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elizgh@btinternet.com [mailto:elizgh@btinternet.com] >> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 1:42 AM >> To: Bob Vine; norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NFK] GOODY >> >> Hi , Freereg has the baptism of a >> Christopher Christmas Berry at St Nicholas King`s Lynn on 14th Jan 1803 , >> his birth date is given as 25th Dec 1802 . He is the son of Christopher and >> Elizabeth Berry . Christopher Berry married Elizabeth Salmon in St >> Nicholas King`s Lynn on 23 Jan 1800 , she may have been the dau or sister of >> >> Samuel Salmon who witnesses the marriage . However there is a bapt in St >> Margaret`s King`s Lynn of a John son of Christopher and Elisabeth Berry , >> 27th Dec 1802 . No date of birth is given for this John in the register . >> I am not sure where the Underwoods come in . >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob Vine via >> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 6:00 AM >> To: 'Christine Benson' ; norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY >> >> This below might provide an answer to a conundrum that has been bugging me >> for some years now. My target relates to a Christopher Christmas Berry whose >> first Baptism (there were actually 4 which has exacerbated my search) as >> John Christmas Underwood, parents William Underwood and Mary Gooddy, All >> Saints, Norwich 8 January 1797 having been born according to the >> transcription of the Parish Register, 15 December 1796. A later Baptism >> record carries a note "Born Christmas Day". Looking closely at the image >> from the Register there is a strong possibility that the "15" is actually >> "25". Any way that is off the subject. >> It now occurs to me, from that below, that "Gooddy" could be an abbreviation >> for "My Goodwife" and not the surname of his Birth Mother. I have tried to >> verify this from records but have not been able to do find anything that >> provides a true "link". >> The closest I can get to discovery is a Marriage Transcription, Mary >> Ditchfield and William Underwood, Norwich 10 May 1787 through findmypast. >> Is there someone out there please who could provide a link to verify that >> this Mary (Anne) Ditchfield is the mother of John Christmas Underwood? >> My research for C C Berry may be found at http://bobvine.gen.nz/ Thank you >> Bob Judy & Bob's Place >> 11 Ngaio Crescent, Lower Hutt 5010, NEW ZEALAND >> Tel: 64 4 9711192 >> Mobile NZ: +64 21510682 >> Mobile: when in Australia: +61 4523308354 >> Skype: bobvine >> Website: www.bobvine.nz >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christine Benson [mailto:christinebenson313@btinternet.com] >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:34 AM >> To: Norfolk Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY >> >> Hi All, >> >> I have always believed it to be an abbreviation of Goodwife and a title like >> Mrs. However, looking for Goody as a forename in Ancestry I found several. >> Some looked as if Goody was given as a surname used as a forename but there >> were several where Goody was the only forename at birth. >> >> So it seems to me that both possibilities exist. >> >> Christine >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the NORFOLK list administrator, send an email to >> NORFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the NORFOLK mailing list, send an email to NORFOLK@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of NORFOLK Digest, Vol 11, Issue 37 >> *************************************** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message