Around 40 people from Kettlestone emigrated to Canada in 1836 From bits and pieces on the National Archive indexes which mentions records of expenses and elsewhere I got the impression they were actively encouraged to emigrate so they were not a drain on the local tax payers who had to pay for poor law relief On this Holkham page there are details of how £200 had been borrowed from the government and the vicar also borrowed money from the Coke estate which owned land in Kettlestone. The emigrants clothing is described as being in a wretched state. Fulmodeston is also mentioned http://www.holkham.co.uk/downloads/WS_2010.pdf As I understand it ( very shaky here) there was a great depression in the 1830s for a number of reasons, including 60 years of enclosures acts. In 1834 the Poor Laws were amended to cut out relief, so paupers would have been forced into the work house instead of getting a supplement to low wages. Rate payers would have had to fund the relief without getting cheap workers so no doubt they were not tardy in shuffling paupers onto ships bound to Canada Rosie On 13/11/2011 12:40, Jill Bloom wrote: > Bonnie > > Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 emigration? > I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, plus > the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for > Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century emigres. > > Interested because our twig of the Nortons was apparently all that was left, > at that time, of an earlier 18th century network, thriving and with a > printed genealogy would you believe! Furthermore, the last person on this > tree, Stephen Norton (b.Brooke 1782) appears to be pretty impecunious by > 1841, living in Norwich. So far the reason undiscovered. Very strange to > have relatively good info on our Scott side, a number of whom left England > for the same part of Canada in the 1880s, with others possibly leaving > Scotland at an earlier date, but nothing on any emigrating Nortons from this > area. > > Many thanks for any clues you can give - there's no hurry . > > Jill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Ostler"<bjrgen@gmail.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:02 AM > > > The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more >> than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in >> Quebec. >> >> Bonnie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The 1836 Pauper Exports from Kettlestone and Heacham may be seen here: >http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/kettle1836.htm < Stan L. Langley - West Norfolk U.K. Principal Interests; JICKLING; LANGLEY; RICHMOND; WAD(DE)LOW; W(H)ILLOCK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "xpn11" <xpn11@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] !836 emigration Around 40 people from Kettlestone emigrated to Canada in 1836 From bits and pieces on the National Archive indexes which mentions records of expenses and elsewhere I got the impression they were actively encouraged to emigrate so they were not a drain on the local tax payers who had to pay for poor law relief On this Holkham page there are details of how £200 had been borrowed from the government and the vicar also borrowed money from the Coke estate which owned land in Kettlestone. The emigrants clothing is described as being in a wretched state. Fulmodeston is also mentioned http://www.holkham.co.uk/downloads/WS_2010.pdf As I understand it ( very shaky here) there was a great depression in the 1830s for a number of reasons, including 60 years of enclosures acts. In 1834 the Poor Laws were amended to cut out relief, so paupers would have been forced into the work house instead of getting a supplement to low wages. Rate payers would have had to fund the relief without getting cheap workers so no doubt they were not tardy in shuffling paupers onto ships bound to Canada Rosie On 13/11/2011 12:40, Jill Bloom wrote: > Bonnie > > Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 > emigration? > I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, > plus > the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for > Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century emigres. > > Interested because our twig of the Nortons was apparently all that was > left, > at that time, of an earlier 18th century network, thriving and with a > printed genealogy would you believe! Furthermore, the last person on this > tree, Stephen Norton (b.Brooke 1782) appears to be pretty impecunious by > 1841, living in Norwich. So far the reason undiscovered. Very strange to > have relatively good info on our Scott side, a number of whom left England > for the same part of Canada in the 1880s, with others possibly leaving > Scotland at an earlier date, but nothing on any emigrating Nortons from > this > area. > > Many thanks for any clues you can give - there's no hurry . > > Jill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Ostler"<bjrgen@gmail.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:02 AM > > > The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more >> than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in >> Quebec. >> >> Bonnie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3568 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Thank you Stan. I knew I had seen it somewhere-my great grandmother's sister, surname Digby, married one of the many Kettlestone Greens who stayed behind. Rosie On 13/11/2011 15:23, Stan Langley wrote: > The 1836 Pauper Exports from Kettlestone and Heacham may be seen here: > >http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/kettle1836.htm< > > Stan L. Langley - West Norfolk U.K. > Principal Interests; JICKLING; LANGLEY; RICHMOND; WAD(DE)LOW; W(H)ILLOCK. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "xpn11"<xpn11@aol.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: [NFK] !836 emigration > > > Around 40 people from Kettlestone emigrated to Canada in 1836 From > bits and pieces on the National Archive indexes which mentions records > of expenses and elsewhere I got the impression they were actively > encouraged to emigrate so they were not a drain on the local tax payers > who had to pay for poor law relief > On this Holkham page there are details of how £200 had been borrowed > from the government and the vicar also borrowed money from the Coke > estate which owned land in Kettlestone. The emigrants clothing is > described as being in a wretched state. Fulmodeston is also mentioned > http://www.holkham.co.uk/downloads/WS_2010.pdf > As I understand it ( very shaky here) there was a great depression in > the 1830s for a number of reasons, including 60 years of enclosures > acts. In 1834 the Poor Laws were amended to cut out relief, so paupers > would have been forced into the work house instead of getting a > supplement to low wages. Rate payers would have had to fund the relief > without getting cheap workers so no doubt they were not tardy in > shuffling paupers onto ships bound to Canada > Rosie > > > On 13/11/2011 12:40, Jill Bloom wrote: >> Bonnie >> >> Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 >> emigration? >> I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, >> plus >> the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for >> Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century emigres. >> >> Interested because our twig of the Nortons was apparently all that was >> left, >> at that time, of an earlier 18th century network, thriving and with a >> printed genealogy would you believe! Furthermore, the last person on this >> tree, Stephen Norton (b.Brooke 1782) appears to be pretty impecunious by >> 1841, living in Norwich. So far the reason undiscovered. Very strange to >> have relatively good info on our Scott side, a number of whom left England >> for the same part of Canada in the 1880s, with others possibly leaving >> Scotland at an earlier date, but nothing on any emigrating Nortons from >> this >> area. >> >> Many thanks for any clues you can give - there's no hurry . >> >> Jill >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bonnie Ostler"<bjrgen@gmail.com> >> To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:02 AM >> >> >> The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more >>> than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in >>> Quebec. >>> >>> Bonnie >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 3568 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Many thanks to Bonnie and Rosie and everybody who sent useful info. about the 1836 emigration. Much to explore here - thanks everyone for all the useful links. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "xpn11" <xpn11@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] !836 emigration Around 40 people from Kettlestone emigrated to Canada in 1836 From bits and pieces on the National Archive indexes which mentions records of expenses and elsewhere I got the impression they were actively encouraged to emigrate so they were not a drain on the local tax payers who had to pay for poor law relief On this Holkham page there are details of how £200 had been borrowed from the government and the vicar also borrowed money from the Coke estate which owned land in Kettlestone. The emigrants clothing is described as being in a wretched state. Fulmodeston is also mentioned http://www.holkham.co.uk/downloads/WS_2010.pdf As I understand it ( very shaky here) there was a great depression in the 1830s for a number of reasons, including 60 years of enclosures acts. In 1834 the Poor Laws were amended to cut out relief, so paupers would have been forced into the work house instead of getting a supplement to low wages. Rate payers would have had to fund the relief without getting cheap workers so no doubt they were not tardy in shuffling paupers onto ships bound to Canada Rosie On 13/11/2011 12:40, Jill Bloom wrote: > Bonnie > > Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 > emigration? > I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, > plus > the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for > Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century emigres. > > Interested because our twig of the Nortons was apparently all that was > left, > at that time, of an earlier 18th century network, thriving and with a > printed genealogy would you believe! Furthermore, the last person on this > tree, Stephen Norton (b.Brooke 1782) appears to be pretty impecunious by > 1841, living in Norwich. So far the reason undiscovered. Very strange to > have relatively good info on our Scott side, a number of whom left England > for the same part of Canada in the 1880s, with others possibly leaving > Scotland at an earlier date, but nothing on any emigrating Nortons from > this > area. > > Many thanks for any clues you can give - there's no hurry . > > Jill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Ostler"<bjrgen@gmail.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:02 AM > > > The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more >> than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in >> Quebec. >> >> Bonnie >