Hi, yes , Norfolk has one of the longest coastlines of any county and Salthouses were just that , and the programme you saw was I think perhaps in Scotland where they still do a lot of smoking fish , fishing is much diminished here , except for the endless Cromer crabs !!! And yes all the churches along the coast are big and the result of very rich farmers and fishermen donating money over the centuries , and sadly too big to keep going now . I am sure that is where they married and its good to see where they were exactly , makes it very real . I had the privilege of visiting Australia and stayed in Melbourne for nearly a week helping an Aussie friend who lives in Sydney although at the time she lived in Katoomba, with her ancestry at the Vic RO in Collins St , and we had a good old rummage in all the earliest records . The real tragedy is that all the Australian census details are gone . My grandfather was born in Beaconsfield Parade in South Melbourne in 1887 and I have no record of what the family did whilst there , nor when they exactly came back to the UK . His mother and three siblings went on SS Parsee in 1886 , I have never found his father`s immigration , nor any trace of the return journey , but they were back for the 1901 census here .......they left two of the older children in Melbourne and I have Australian cousins , but the parents and one son and my grandfather returned . Odd !!! I am perfectly happy with the Walpoles that the Norfolk list has found for you , and if you really feel you need to have proof of his ancestry , then get the marriage cert for him and Mary Ann Holmes, that will give his father`s name . But I am sure he is the Robert aged 4 of West Walton son of Robert and Mary in the 1841 census. I don`t think they had any idea how old they were or when they were born ........birthdays etc are a very modern invenstion . Hope you have got some feel for the fens from this and have managed to find a map of this part of Norfolk /Cambridgeshire , its very flat , man made land and the villages and farms are scattered and remote , it can also get very very very cold !!!!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > Hi Elizabeth, > > I see that the children are ten years younger on the 1861 census. I > should > have looked it up before I sent the email to Rosie, commenting of the age > problem between the 1861 and 1871 Census. It is a shame we cannot find > Robert at home with is parents as a young lad. Though it has to be him in > the 1851 Census in Salthouse, as this is where he met his future wife. > What > a strange name for a village, Salthouse. Though I suppose it must mean > that > it had a lot of Salthouses for salting the fish. I remember I watched one > of Rick Stein's cooking shows on cable not long ago and he was at a > village > where they salted the fish in these old timber sheds. > > I just Googled Salthouse and saw the lovely old church, on a sloping green > hill near the sea and then photographs of the interior. I suppose that > may > have been where Robert married Mary Ann. > > Thank you so much for all the wonderful information you have sent. I do > appreciate all the help I have been given by the Norfolk Listers. > > Also, if anyone would like any help in tracing a rellie that appears to > have > fallen off the tree never to be found, they may have been given a free > South > Sea voyage to the Antipodes, below deck in chains. You never know and I > would love to help if I can. Please do not hesitate to contact me off > List. > > Cheers > Janice > Belrose - Sydney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:33 PM > Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > > >> Hi, there is a marriage on freebmd of a Robert Walpole to >> Mary >> Ann Holmes in the Dec 1852 1/4 in Loddon district vol 4b p 555 . >> In the 1861 census the family are living at Sutton Road, >> Newton, >> Leverington , Cambs which is just over the border from Norfolk . >> Robert Walpole is head, marr, 32, shepherd, b Walpole , >> Norfolk, >> wife Mary , 28, b Salthouse , Frances, dau , 8 , b Salthouse, Henry , 6 , >> born Lynn, John , son, 4, b St Johns, Robert , 1 , b St Johns . >> The parish records for the two Walpoles St Peter and St >> Andrew >> are at Wisbech RO . W St A has bapts 1655 - 1966 (1771-1800) and >> marriages >> which are searchable online 1654-1823 & 1824 -1894 . W St P has bapts >> 1601-1812 and marriages 1704-1812 . You would have to contact the RO to >> find out what happened to the post 1812 W St P registers . >> In the 1841 census there is a Robert Walpole , 12, ag lab, Y >> for >> born in county , living at West Walton Smeeth, in the household of >> Frances >> Terrington , farmer . There is also the family of Robert and Mary >> Walpole, >> living at Fen end , West Walton, and he is 35, ag lab, Y, Mary is 30, Y, >> and >> they have William , 8, Robert, 4, Mary , 1. >> In the 1851 census Robert Walpole aged 23, " Baaker & Lab " , >> b >> Walpole St Lawrence , is living with a family called Cubitt in Salthouse >> . >> Walpole St Lawrence is not immediately identifiable but there is a Tilney >> St >> Lawrence . >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:36 AM >> Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >> >> >>> Good morning Listers, >>> >>> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than the >>> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 (Robert >>> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I would >>> also >>> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >>> >>> Robert and Mary Ann's first child a daughter Frances, was baptised on >>> 23rd >>> July 1853 in Saltbush, baptised by Rev. J G Girdlestone. It is Robert >>> and >>> Mary Ann's son John, born circa 1858, whose line I a researching. >>> >>> I am helping my niece by marriage to trace her WALPOLE family. Her >>> grandmother was Hazel Mirabel WALPOLE born 8th February 1914 in Roma, >>> Queensland, Aus. Hazel's father was John Thomas WARPOLE, who arrived in >>> Brisbane, Qld 13th February 1900 aged 19 per "Duke of Portand". He >>> married on 28th November 1907, Eva Victoria Beatrice Miscamble in Roma, >>> Qld. >>> >>> John Thomas WALPOLE was the son of John WALPOLE and Mary Ann GALL. They >>> were married in the June Quarter of 1877. John Thomas WALPOLE was born >>> in >>> the Sept Quarter of 1880, his birth was registered in Wisbeach. His >>> mother Mary Ann died at the age of 33 in the June Quarter of 1891 and >>> his >>> father John married his second wife Lilian Lemon in the March Quarter of >>> 1892 in Wisbech. John Thomas WALPOLE died in 1951 and is buried in the >>> Roma General Cemetery in Qld. >>> >>> Some of John Thomas WALPOLE's brothers may have also immigrated to >>> Australia. One name which appears in the Queensland BMD historical >>> records >>> is Horace WALPOLE and one of John Thomas' younger brothers was Arthur >>> Horace WALPOLE. >>> >>> The family story is that they can trace their line back to Sir Robert >>> WALPOLE, the Prime Minister of Great Britain. >>> >>> I am hoping a Lister may have details of John Thomas WALPOLE'S >>> grandfather >>> Robert WALPOLE'S parents. Robert was born circa 1829 in Walpole, >>> Norfolk. >>> Robert's son John names one of his sons Horace and one of Sir Robert >>> WALPOLE'S sons was named Horace, so one would assume that the name is >>> being carried through by the family. >>> >>> My husband's DOUGHTYS also hail from Norfolk, in Ryburg, Towngreen, >>> Wymondham and Terrington St. Clements. Thank you. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Janice >>> Belrose - Sydney >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >