Probably related a long way back, if at all, being one of those names which come from a place. Branches of the Houghton/ Earls of Orford Walpoles also have Itteringham and Mannington Halls at present. Don't forget the Horatio/Horace could just as easily be because of Nelson. I have met Mr R. Walpole of R W Walpole soft fruit growers of Walpole, there seems to be quite a few families in the area who have the name. Rosie ( the other one) On 03/12/2011 14:06, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi, no worries , it is easily done as you say , and the > enumerator is to blame but just in case we all went off on a search for an > earlier marriage for Robert, he would , if the age of the 16year old been > right , only 16 years old himself and even for the fens this is an unlikely > early age for marriage !!! > And I wonder if this 1828 Robert son of Mary is the 12 year old > in the 1841 living at West Walton Smeeth . The 1841 Robert son of Robert > and Mary aged 4 seems much closer to the 1861 Robert aged 32 . > Prime Minister Robert Walpole was born in 1676 at Houghton Hall > , and was the third of 17 children , 8 of whom died in infancy . Wikipedia > has Robert as the only surviving son . PM Walpole married Catherine > Shorter in 1700 and had 2 daus and 4 sons the 2nd Earl Robert had one son > and it would seem that that son died without issue because Horace > PMWalpole`s 4th son became the 4th Earl of Orford . > Whilst this is Wikipedia it seems that any connection would be > either illegitmate or earlier than PM Walpole , ie his father Robert and > back . > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Greenwood"<jeangreenwood@virginmedia.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > > >> The births for the later children are on FreeBMD and are >> Henry 1855 K Lynn >> John 1857 Wisbeach >> Robert 1860 Wisbeach >> so Rosie correct in thinking enumerator's check misleading. >> >> Incidentally Family Search has a baptism in Walpole St Peter for >> Robert Walpole on 27 Jan 1828 mother Mary - no father given. >> >> HTH >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> >> On 3 December 2011 13:16, elizabeth howard<elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>> And just seen Rosie`s email , I wondered that , but the >>> image >>> seems to show that the black line alongside the ages of Henry , John and >>> Robert show where the enumerator has ticked them off , checked them , >>> rather than being a line indicating the age They seem different pen >>> strokes from the age . ???? >>> >>> >>> >>> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Janice Doughty"<adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> >>> To:<NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:36 AM >>> Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >>> >>> >>>> Good morning Listers, >>>> >>>> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than the >>>> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 (Robert >>>> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I would >>> also >>>> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >>>> >>>> Robert and Mary Ann's first child a daughter Frances, was baptised on >>> 23rd >>>> July 1853 in Saltbush, baptised by Rev. J G Girdlestone. It is Robert >>>> and >>>> Mary Ann's son John, born circa 1858, whose line I a researching. >>>> >>>> I am helping my niece by marriage to trace her WALPOLE family. Her >>>> grandmother was Hazel Mirabel WALPOLE born 8th February 1914 in Roma, >>>> Queensland, Aus. Hazel's father was John Thomas WARPOLE, who arrived >>>> in >>>> Brisbane, Qld 13th February 1900 aged 19 per "Duke of Portand". He >>>> married on 28th November 1907, Eva Victoria Beatrice Miscamble in Roma, >>>> Qld. >>>> >>>> John Thomas WALPOLE was the son of John WALPOLE and Mary Ann GALL. >>>> They >>>> were married in the June Quarter of 1877. John Thomas WALPOLE was born >>> in >>>> the Sept Quarter of 1880, his birth was registered in Wisbeach. His >>>> mother Mary Ann died at the age of 33 in the June Quarter of 1891 and >>>> his >>>> father John married his second wife Lilian Lemon in the March Quarter >>>> of >>>> 1892 in Wisbech. John Thomas WALPOLE died in 1951 and is buried in the >>>> Roma General Cemetery in Qld. >>>> >>>> Some of John Thomas WALPOLE's brothers may have also immigrated to >>>> Australia. One name which appears in the Queensland BMD historical >>> records >>>> is Horace WALPOLE and one of John Thomas' younger brothers was Arthur >>>> Horace WALPOLE. >>>> >>>> The family story is that they can trace their line back to Sir Robert >>>> WALPOLE, the Prime Minister of Great Britain. >>>> >>>> I am hoping a Lister may have details of John Thomas WALPOLE'S >>> grandfather >>>> Robert WALPOLE'S parents. Robert was born circa 1829 in Walpole, >>> Norfolk. >>>> Robert's son John names one of his sons Horace and one of Sir Robert >>>> WALPOLE'S sons was named Horace, so one would assume that the name is >>>> being carried through by the family. >>>> >>>> My husband's DOUGHTYS also hail from Norfolk, in Ryburg, Towngreen, >>>> Wymondham and Terrington St. Clements. Thank you. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Janice >>>> Belrose - Sydney >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi , this is what is soooooo fascinating with all the movement of people during the Industrial revolution and with transport links increasing and emigration always a hot topic , some families never moved further than 10 miles from their original eponymous villages like your Mr Walpole of Walpole ......... how many others do listers know ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "xpn11" <xpn11@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > Probably related a long way back, if at all, being one of those names > which come from a place. Branches of the Houghton/ Earls of Orford > Walpoles also have Itteringham and Mannington Halls at present. > Don't forget the Horatio/Horace could just as easily be because of > Nelson. > I have met Mr R. Walpole of R W Walpole soft fruit growers of Walpole, > there seems to be quite a few families in the area who have the name. > Rosie ( the other one) > > On 03/12/2011 14:06, elizabeth howard wrote: >> Hi, no worries , it is easily done as you say , and the >> enumerator is to blame but just in case we all went off on a search for >> an >> earlier marriage for Robert, he would , if the age of the 16year old >> been >> right , only 16 years old himself and even for the fens this is an >> unlikely >> early age for marriage !!! >> And I wonder if this 1828 Robert son of Mary is the 12 year >> old >> in the 1841 living at West Walton Smeeth . The 1841 Robert son of Robert >> and Mary aged 4 seems much closer to the 1861 Robert aged 32 . >> Prime Minister Robert Walpole was born in 1676 at Houghton >> Hall >> , and was the third of 17 children , 8 of whom died in infancy . >> Wikipedia >> has Robert as the only surviving son . PM Walpole married Catherine >> Shorter in 1700 and had 2 daus and 4 sons the 2nd Earl Robert had one son >> and it would seem that that son died without issue because Horace >> PMWalpole`s 4th son became the 4th Earl of Orford . >> Whilst this is Wikipedia it seems that any connection would >> be >> either illegitmate or earlier than PM Walpole , ie his father Robert and >> back . >> >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jean Greenwood"<jeangreenwood@virginmedia.com> >> To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >> >> >>> The births for the later children are on FreeBMD and are >>> Henry 1855 K Lynn >>> John 1857 Wisbeach >>> Robert 1860 Wisbeach >>> so Rosie correct in thinking enumerator's check misleading. >>> >>> Incidentally Family Search has a baptism in Walpole St Peter for >>> Robert Walpole on 27 Jan 1828 mother Mary - no father given. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Jean >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 December 2011 13:16, elizabeth howard<elizgh@btinternet.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> And just seen Rosie`s email , I wondered that , but >>>> the >>>> image >>>> seems to show that the black line alongside the ages of Henry , John >>>> and >>>> Robert show where the enumerator has ticked them off , checked them , >>>> rather than being a line indicating the age They seem different pen >>>> strokes from the age . ???? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Janice Doughty"<adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> >>>> To:<NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:36 AM >>>> Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >>>> >>>> >>>>> Good morning Listers, >>>>> >>>>> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than the >>>>> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 (Robert >>>>> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I would >>>> also >>>>> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >>>>> >>>>> Robert and Mary Ann's first child a daughter Frances, was baptised on >>>> 23rd >>>>> July 1853 in Saltbush, baptised by Rev. J G Girdlestone. It is Robert >>>>> and >>>>> Mary Ann's son John, born circa 1858, whose line I a researching. >>>>> >>>>> I am helping my niece by marriage to trace her WALPOLE family. Her >>>>> grandmother was Hazel Mirabel WALPOLE born 8th February 1914 in Roma, >>>>> Queensland, Aus. Hazel's father was John Thomas WARPOLE, who arrived >>>>> in >>>>> Brisbane, Qld 13th February 1900 aged 19 per "Duke of Portand". He >>>>> married on 28th November 1907, Eva Victoria Beatrice Miscamble in >>>>> Roma, >>>>> Qld. >>>>> >>>>> John Thomas WALPOLE was the son of John WALPOLE and Mary Ann GALL. >>>>> They >>>>> were married in the June Quarter of 1877. John Thomas WALPOLE was >>>>> born >>>> in >>>>> the Sept Quarter of 1880, his birth was registered in Wisbeach. His >>>>> mother Mary Ann died at the age of 33 in the June Quarter of 1891 and >>>>> his >>>>> father John married his second wife Lilian Lemon in the March Quarter >>>>> of >>>>> 1892 in Wisbech. John Thomas WALPOLE died in 1951 and is buried in the >>>>> Roma General Cemetery in Qld. >>>>> >>>>> Some of John Thomas WALPOLE's brothers may have also immigrated to >>>>> Australia. One name which appears in the Queensland BMD historical >>>> records >>>>> is Horace WALPOLE and one of John Thomas' younger brothers was Arthur >>>>> Horace WALPOLE. >>>>> >>>>> The family story is that they can trace their line back to Sir Robert >>>>> WALPOLE, the Prime Minister of Great Britain. >>>>> >>>>> I am hoping a Lister may have details of John Thomas WALPOLE'S >>>> grandfather >>>>> Robert WALPOLE'S parents. Robert was born circa 1829 in Walpole, >>>> Norfolk. >>>>> Robert's son John names one of his sons Horace and one of Sir Robert >>>>> WALPOLE'S sons was named Horace, so one would assume that the name is >>>>> being carried through by the family. >>>>> >>>>> My husband's DOUGHTYS also hail from Norfolk, in Ryburg, Towngreen, >>>>> Wymondham and Terrington St. Clements. Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Janice >>>>> Belrose - Sydney >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >