A friend doing genealogical research in Suffolk ( the ALSTONs and Lady Somerset) came across an entry in a parish register. Burial of a very old man. "In all his many years he never went out of the sight of the spire of the parish church". Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:49 PM Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > Hi , this is what is soooooo fascinating with all the movement > of people during the Industrial revolution and with transport links > increasing and emigration always a hot topic , some families never moved > further than 10 miles from their original eponymous villages like your Mr > Walpole of Walpole ......... how many others do listers know ? > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "xpn11" <xpn11@aol.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > > >> Probably related a long way back, if at all, being one of those names >> which come from a place. Branches of the Houghton/ Earls of Orford >> Walpoles also have Itteringham and Mannington Halls at present. >> Don't forget the Horatio/Horace could just as easily be because of >> Nelson. >> I have met Mr R. Walpole of R W Walpole soft fruit growers of Walpole, >> there seems to be quite a few families in the area who have the name. >> Rosie ( the other one) >> >> On 03/12/2011 14:06, elizabeth howard wrote: >>> Hi, no worries , it is easily done as you say , and the >>> enumerator is to blame but just in case we all went off on a search for >>> an >>> earlier marriage for Robert, he would , if the age of the 16year old >>> been >>> right , only 16 years old himself and even for the fens this is an >>> unlikely >>> early age for marriage !!! >>> And I wonder if this 1828 Robert son of Mary is the 12 year >>> old >>> in the 1841 living at West Walton Smeeth . The 1841 Robert son of >>> Robert >>> and Mary aged 4 seems much closer to the 1861 Robert aged 32 . >>> Prime Minister Robert Walpole was born in 1676 at Houghton >>> Hall >>> , and was the third of 17 children , 8 of whom died in infancy . >>> Wikipedia >>> has Robert as the only surviving son . PM Walpole married Catherine >>> Shorter in 1700 and had 2 daus and 4 sons the 2nd Earl Robert had one >>> son >>> and it would seem that that son died without issue because Horace >>> PMWalpole`s 4th son became the 4th Earl of Orford . >>> Whilst this is Wikipedia it seems that any connection >>> would be >>> either illegitmate or earlier than PM Walpole , ie his father Robert and >>> back . >>> >>> >>> >>> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jean Greenwood"<jeangreenwood@virginmedia.com> >>> To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >>> >>> >>>> The births for the later children are on FreeBMD and are >>>> Henry 1855 K Lynn >>>> John 1857 Wisbeach >>>> Robert 1860 Wisbeach >>>> so Rosie correct in thinking enumerator's check misleading. >>>> >>>> Incidentally Family Search has a baptism in Walpole St Peter for >>>> Robert Walpole on 27 Jan 1828 mother Mary - no father given. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Jean >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 December 2011 13:16, elizabeth howard<elizgh@btinternet.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And just seen Rosie`s email , I wondered that , but >>>>> the >>>>> image >>>>> seems to show that the black line alongside the ages of Henry , John >>>>> and >>>>> Robert show where the enumerator has ticked them off , checked them , >>>>> rather than being a line indicating the age They seem different pen >>>>> strokes from the age . ???? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Janice Doughty"<adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> >>>>> To:<NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:36 AM >>>>> Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Good morning Listers, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than the >>>>>> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 >>>>>> (Robert >>>>>> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I would >>>>> also >>>>>> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert and Mary Ann's first child a daughter Frances, was baptised on >>>>> 23rd >>>>>> July 1853 in Saltbush, baptised by Rev. J G Girdlestone. It is Robert >>>>>> and >>>>>> Mary Ann's son John, born circa 1858, whose line I a researching. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am helping my niece by marriage to trace her WALPOLE family. Her >>>>>> grandmother was Hazel Mirabel WALPOLE born 8th February 1914 in Roma, >>>>>> Queensland, Aus. Hazel's father was John Thomas WARPOLE, who arrived >>>>>> in >>>>>> Brisbane, Qld 13th February 1900 aged 19 per "Duke of Portand". He >>>>>> married on 28th November 1907, Eva Victoria Beatrice Miscamble in >>>>>> Roma, >>>>>> Qld. >>>>>> >>>>>> John Thomas WALPOLE was the son of John WALPOLE and Mary Ann GALL. >>>>>> They >>>>>> were married in the June Quarter of 1877. John Thomas WALPOLE was >>>>>> born >>>>> in >>>>>> the Sept Quarter of 1880, his birth was registered in Wisbeach. His >>>>>> mother Mary Ann died at the age of 33 in the June Quarter of 1891 and >>>>>> his >>>>>> father John married his second wife Lilian Lemon in the March Quarter >>>>>> of >>>>>> 1892 in Wisbech. John Thomas WALPOLE died in 1951 and is buried in >>>>>> the >>>>>> Roma General Cemetery in Qld. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of John Thomas WALPOLE's brothers may have also immigrated to >>>>>> Australia. One name which appears in the Queensland BMD historical >>>>> records >>>>>> is Horace WALPOLE and one of John Thomas' younger brothers was Arthur >>>>>> Horace WALPOLE. >>>>>> >>>>>> The family story is that they can trace their line back to Sir Robert >>>>>> WALPOLE, the Prime Minister of Great Britain. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am hoping a Lister may have details of John Thomas WALPOLE'S >>>>> grandfather >>>>>> Robert WALPOLE'S parents. Robert was born circa 1829 in Walpole, >>>>> Norfolk. >>>>>> Robert's son John names one of his sons Horace and one of Sir Robert >>>>>> WALPOLE'S sons was named Horace, so one would assume that the name is >>>>>> being carried through by the family. >>>>>> >>>>>> My husband's DOUGHTYS also hail from Norfolk, in Ryburg, Towngreen, >>>>>> Wymondham and Terrington St. Clements. Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Janice >>>>>> Belrose - Sydney >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >