Hi, the RNVR records are on National Archives Documentsonline , and I can find three Bartram no Bartrum , but no Samuel James under either spelling . Tow of the Bartrams have Z as a prefix for their service number and both are Bristol, and the London Bartram has AA as a prefix . However if you scroll down you see AA is unsurprisingly Anti Aircraft and Z is with B the Bristol Division . But Samuel James service records are on National Archives under Royal Naval Division , and it says he was born 29 Dec 1875 , was an ordinary seaman , able seaman , R4825 , and you can download this record for a princely £3.50 life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard" <richardmyhill43@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:45 PM Subject: [NFK] BARTRAM.SAMUEL JAMES, TIVETSHALL ST.MARY. >I have two WW!. medals,the Victory Medal and the the British War Medal that >were awarded to my 2 x gt.grandmothers brother Samuel James Bartram. > Each medal is inscribed around the rim with R4825. S J BARTRAM. AB.RNVR. > which i take to mean able seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve. > So i would assume that to be a reserve in the Royal Navy he would have had > to have previous experience in the Royal Navy. > He was born December 29 1875 and in the 1901 census is an agricultural > labourer in Tivetshall,so he did not seem to have too much time to fit in > a naval career before the war started. > I am hoping that someone on the list is able to tell me more about his > military history in the war as he must have served somewhere to be awarded > these medals, and how he came to be a naval volunteer. > Richard. > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >