Please have a look at http://bobvine.gen.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ChristopherBerry3LivesPt1.p df which shows where the Underwoods come in. What started me on tracing the full story were the Baptisms of John Berry on 27 Dec 1802 and Christopher Christmas Berry just 18 days later, both with the same parents, same Church. The conclusion I came to was that John and Christopher were one and the same. This was eventually proven with the discovery of the Marriage of "Christopher Christmas Underwood" to Elizabeth Newdick, 6 June 1822, St Nicholas, Kings Lynn and the Banns notices which gave "Salmon" his obviously adopted mother's maiden name as an alias. QED! Freereg has another Underwood connected Baptism: Maria Underwood Berry, daughter of Christopher and Margaret, St Nicholas, King's Lynn, 29 January 1799. It occurs to me that something catastrophic occurred within the Underwood family that must have had some connection to the Berry family. I am still working on this one and have in mind a search of Workhouse records. Cheers Bob -----Original Message----- From: elizgh@btinternet.com [mailto:elizgh@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 1:42 AM To: Bob Vine; norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] GOODY Hi , Freereg has the baptism of a Christopher Christmas Berry at St Nicholas King`s Lynn on 14th Jan 1803 , his birth date is given as 25th Dec 1802 . He is the son of Christopher and Elizabeth Berry . Christopher Berry married Elizabeth Salmon in St Nicholas King`s Lynn on 23 Jan 1800 , she may have been the dau or sister of Samuel Salmon who witnesses the marriage . However there is a bapt in St Margaret`s King`s Lynn of a John son of Christopher and Elisabeth Berry , 27th Dec 1802 . No date of birth is given for this John in the register . I am not sure where the Underwoods come in . -----Original Message----- From: Bob Vine via Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 6:00 AM To: 'Christine Benson' ; norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY This below might provide an answer to a conundrum that has been bugging me for some years now. My target relates to a Christopher Christmas Berry whose first Baptism (there were actually 4 which has exacerbated my search) as John Christmas Underwood, parents William Underwood and Mary Gooddy, All Saints, Norwich 8 January 1797 having been born according to the transcription of the Parish Register, 15 December 1796. A later Baptism record carries a note "Born Christmas Day". Looking closely at the image from the Register there is a strong possibility that the "15" is actually "25". Any way that is off the subject. It now occurs to me, from that below, that "Gooddy" could be an abbreviation for "My Goodwife" and not the surname of his Birth Mother. I have tried to verify this from records but have not been able to do find anything that provides a true "link". The closest I can get to discovery is a Marriage Transcription, Mary Ditchfield and William Underwood, Norwich 10 May 1787 through findmypast. Is there someone out there please who could provide a link to verify that this Mary (Anne) Ditchfield is the mother of John Christmas Underwood? My research for C C Berry may be found at http://bobvine.gen.nz/ Thank you Bob Judy & Bob's Place 11 Ngaio Crescent, Lower Hutt 5010, NEW ZEALAND Tel: 64 4 9711192 Mobile NZ: +64 21510682 Mobile: when in Australia: +61 4523308354 Skype: bobvine Website: www.bobvine.nz -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson [mailto:christinebenson313@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:34 AM To: Norfolk Mailing List Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY Hi All, I have always believed it to be an abbreviation of Goodwife and a title like Mrs. However, looking for Goody as a forename in Ancestry I found several. Some looked as if Goody was given as a surname used as a forename but there were several where Goody was the only forename at birth. So it seems to me that both possibilities exist. Christine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

This below might provide an answer to a conundrum that has been bugging me for some years now. My target relates to a Christopher Christmas Berry whose first Baptism (there were actually 4 which has exacerbated my search) as John Christmas Underwood, parents William Underwood and Mary Gooddy, All Saints, Norwich 8 January 1797 having been born according to the transcription of the Parish Register, 15 December 1796. A later Baptism record carries a note "Born Christmas Day". Looking closely at the image from the Register there is a strong possibility that the "15" is actually "25". Any way that is off the subject. It now occurs to me, from that below, that "Gooddy" could be an abbreviation for "My Goodwife" and not the surname of his Birth Mother. I have tried to verify this from records but have not been able to do find anything that provides a true "link". The closest I can get to discovery is a Marriage Transcription, Mary Ditchfield and William Underwood, Norwich 10 May 1787 through findmypast. Is there someone out there please who could provide a link to verify that this Mary (Anne) Ditchfield is the mother of John Christmas Underwood? My research for C C Berry may be found at http://bobvine.gen.nz/ Thank you Bob Judy & Bob's Place 11 Ngaio Crescent, Lower Hutt 5010, NEW ZEALAND Tel: 64 4 9711192 Mobile NZ: +64 21510682 Mobile: when in Australia: +61 4523308354 Skype: bobvine Website: www.bobvine.nz -----Original Message----- From: Christine Benson [mailto:christinebenson313@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:34 AM To: Norfolk Mailing List Subject: Re: [NFK] GOODY Hi All, I have always believed it to be an abbreviation of Goodwife and a title like Mrs. However, looking for Goody as a forename in Ancestry I found several. Some looked as if Goody was given as a surname used as a forename but there were several where Goody was the only forename at birth. So it seems to me that both possibilities exist. Christine

Hi again , Christopher Berry is a bankrupt by 1812 according the Norwich Chronicle and various properties are being auctioned to cover his debts . Lot 3 is a comfortable and convenient dwelling house in good repair in the occupation of Mr Christopher Berry , fronting Pottergate St. His widow Mary Berry aged 50, widow of the late Mr Christopher Berry , printer and bookseller died in March 1837, in St Giles Norwich . Earlier in June 1809 there is a further commission for anyone owing money to Christopher Berry , the elder and Robert Rochester , of the city of Norwich , booksellers, stationers, dealer, chapmen and partners, bankrupts , are required to make their payments to the Union Bank. In 1810 the partnership between Christopher and John Berry is dissolved by mutual consent and all payments and debts will be paid and received by Christopher Berry who is carrying on the business . Again in 1809 a notice is put in the Norfolk Chronicle to state that Christopher Berry , junr, and John Berry , sons of the late John Berry are completely unconnected with the firm of Berry and Rochester , printing and bookselling in Dove Lane Norwich . 1748 is the earliest date in the Britishnewspaperarchive of Christopher Berry and his firm of Booksellers, printers etc. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thanks both... it is as I suspected..... Since posting the request more connections have come to light..... so will pursue these.... My wife has discovered a great aunt of mine who was "unknown" before today and whose birth has pointed us towards Barking, Essex...... my great grandmother did get around it seems. David On 2 April 2016 at 17:39, Keith Drage via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > If you want to look for Salvation Army records, then I suspect you need > to put more substance behind their connection before you start looking. > > Were they officers or just members. You are more likely to find indexed > information if they were officers. > > While the Salvation Army did keep records, the Salvation Army > headquarters in London were bombed in the second world war and therefore > any centrally held records at that time were lost. > > I have not been able to find any policy of local records being submitted > to headquarters. The archives do have some records that would have been > collected locally. It is possible that any records are locally held. > > Bear in mind that the Salvation Army is a relatively young organisation. > William Booth started his missions in the late 1860s, and it did not > become an organisation with committee until the late 1870's, and not > until 1878 that it was called the "Salvation Army". Therefore if we are > talking before these dates it will not be the Salvation Army. > > My great-aunt and her husband were officers at the time of their > marriage in 1908, and they married in a register officer. So do not > assume that any marriages were conducted by the Salvation Army themselves. > > regards > > Keith Drage > Swindon UK > > > > On 02-Apr-16 12:40 PM, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > > Hi David > > > > The Sally Army was based on methodism > > > > But no matter what the situation, if they married there would be a > > registration in the GRO > > > > Some events were missed off the quarterly returns by the local office to > > the GRO, or were reported in error, wrongly spelled etc > > > > What are the names, locations and dates/years ? > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 02/04/2016 12:25, David Mills via wrote: > >> Wanting to check two possible marriages (no signs so far) in my family. > >> There is a possibility that one or both are either Salvation Army or > some > >> non established church: > >> Are these likely to be recorded inother than the standard civil > records? If > >> they exist at all that is? > >> > >> David > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and then delete this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer.

If you want to look for Salvation Army records, then I suspect you need to put more substance behind their connection before you start looking. Were they officers or just members. You are more likely to find indexed information if they were officers. While the Salvation Army did keep records, the Salvation Army headquarters in London were bombed in the second world war and therefore any centrally held records at that time were lost. I have not been able to find any policy of local records being submitted to headquarters. The archives do have some records that would have been collected locally. It is possible that any records are locally held. Bear in mind that the Salvation Army is a relatively young organisation. William Booth started his missions in the late 1860s, and it did not become an organisation with committee until the late 1870's, and not until 1878 that it was called the "Salvation Army". Therefore if we are talking before these dates it will not be the Salvation Army. My great-aunt and her husband were officers at the time of their marriage in 1908, and they married in a register officer. So do not assume that any marriages were conducted by the Salvation Army themselves. regards Keith Drage Swindon UK On 02-Apr-16 12:40 PM, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > Hi David > > The Sally Army was based on methodism > > But no matter what the situation, if they married there would be a > registration in the GRO > > Some events were missed off the quarterly returns by the local office to > the GRO, or were reported in error, wrongly spelled etc > > What are the names, locations and dates/years ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/04/2016 12:25, David Mills via wrote: >> Wanting to check two possible marriages (no signs so far) in my family. >> There is a possibility that one or both are either Salvation Army or some >> non established church: >> Are these likely to be recorded inother than the standard civil records? If >> they exist at all that is? >> >> David > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi David The Sally Army was based on methodism But no matter what the situation, if they married there would be a registration in the GRO Some events were missed off the quarterly returns by the local office to the GRO, or were reported in error, wrongly spelled etc What are the names, locations and dates/years ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/04/2016 12:25, David Mills via wrote: > Wanting to check two possible marriages (no signs so far) in my family. > There is a possibility that one or both are either Salvation Army or some > non established church: > Are these likely to be recorded inother than the standard civil records? If > they exist at all that is? > > David --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Wanting to check two possible marriages (no signs so far) in my family. There is a possibility that one or both are either Salvation Army or some non established church: Are these likely to be recorded inother than the standard civil records? If they exist at all that is? David Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and then delete this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer.

Hi Fiona-bit of a puzzle, cant find her on 1901 or 1911 nor find a marriage on FBMD . getting crosser and crosser with how Ancestry is performing! Were there any children to back track from to see if the Johnson was a second marriage after being widowed in WW1 for example, or to give a closer idea of when they married ? Just a thought. Rosie

There's an Eliza Johnson living in Hanover Street Preston in the 1939 Register but her husband isn't John/Jack. Have you got your Eliza's birth certificate to compare to the date of birth of the Eliza on the 1939 Register? Pam On 31 March 2016 at 22:22, fee.bee@talktalk.net via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi, I have found the married name of Eliza Goldsmith, it is Johnson, and > in 1936 she lived at 10 Hanover Street Preston. I have now found two > possible deaths for her and her husband John/Jack. I still have had no > luck with their marriage, I have looked at the 1911 census, with no luck. > If anyone can help again, many thanks, also many thanks to those who > replied to my earlier posts, even though I was on the wrong track entirely. > Kind Regards Fiona. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I have found the married name of Eliza Goldsmith, it is Johnson, and in 1936 she lived at 10 Hanover Street Preston. I have now found two possible deaths for her and her husband John/Jack. I still have had no luck with their marriage, I have looked at the 1911 census, with no luck. If anyone can help again, many thanks, also many thanks to those who replied to my earlier posts, even though I was on the wrong track entirely. Kind Regards Fiona.

Hi Fiona. I had a brief look at this and came to the same conclusion about her being Jane Eliza. I also think I found her brother Thomas still in the Holt area on the 1911 with their mother but finding Jane using Ancestry has defeated me . As someone commented recently it seems much harder to drive the new version search than the old so I wonder if Free Cen or FMP will be better Rosie On 30/03/2016 22:59, Fiona Barham via wrote: > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Fiona Barham <tomgoods11@gmail.com> >> Date: 30 March 2016 at 19:11:27 BST >> To: NORFOLK-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Eliza Goldsmith >> >> Hi, thanks to those who replied to my previous post. I may have a lead and am hoping someone can help. It's possible that my great aunt was baptised Jane Eliza, if so, I have found a marriage in Barrow in Furness in 1900 to a John Turner. What I have found is a Jane Turner age 2 on the 1911 census, in the parish of Walton le Dale in Preston. I have tried to see the original image but to no avail. If anyone can help, I would like to know if the father is indeed John Turner and the mother is either Jane Eliza or Eliza Jane, but more importantly, if the mother was born in Hunworth Norfolk, if so I will know I have the right marriage. She maybe down as just plain Jane, pardon the pun. As I said before they lived in Preston. However anyone can help, then many thanks. >> Regards, Fiona. >> >> Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The parents of baby Jane are Joseph and Elizabeth Alice Turner. Both said to have been born in Preston. Married two years, so possibly Joseph Tuner and Elizabeth Alice Farnworth who married December quarter 1908 Preston registration district. Pam On 30 March 2016 at 22:59, Fiona Barham via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Fiona Barham <tomgoods11@gmail.com> > > Date: 30 March 2016 at 19:11:27 BST > > To: NORFOLK-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Eliza Goldsmith > > > > Hi, thanks to those who replied to my previous post. I may have a lead > and am hoping someone can help. It's possible that my great aunt was > baptised Jane Eliza, if so, I have found a marriage in Barrow in Furness in > 1900 to a John Turner. What I have found is a Jane Turner age 2 on the 1911 > census, in the parish of Walton le Dale in Preston. I have tried to see the > original image but to no avail. If anyone can help, I would like to know if > the father is indeed John Turner and the mother is either Jane Eliza or > Eliza Jane, but more importantly, if the mother was born in Hunworth > Norfolk, if so I will know I have the right marriage. She maybe down as > just plain Jane, pardon the pun. As I said before they lived in Preston. > However anyone can help, then many thanks. > > Regards, Fiona. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Fiona Barham <tomgoods11@gmail.com> > Date: 30 March 2016 at 19:11:27 BST > To: NORFOLK-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: Eliza Goldsmith > > Hi, thanks to those who replied to my previous post. I may have a lead and am hoping someone can help. It's possible that my great aunt was baptised Jane Eliza, if so, I have found a marriage in Barrow in Furness in 1900 to a John Turner. What I have found is a Jane Turner age 2 on the 1911 census, in the parish of Walton le Dale in Preston. I have tried to see the original image but to no avail. If anyone can help, I would like to know if the father is indeed John Turner and the mother is either Jane Eliza or Eliza Jane, but more importantly, if the mother was born in Hunworth Norfolk, if so I will know I have the right marriage. She maybe down as just plain Jane, pardon the pun. As I said before they lived in Preston. However anyone can help, then many thanks. > Regards, Fiona. > > Sent from my iPad

Hi Keith, I have found a Robert William Woodhouse bapt in Weybourne on 5th April 1885, to Richard William Woodhouse and Annie Elizabeth Tuck. Robert W Woodhouse married Ann / Anna Woodyard in the October, November, December quarter of 1916 cert number vol 4 b page 147. Also found a death for a Robert W Woodhouse in the Jan, Feb, Mar quarter of 1924 age 39 cert number vol 4b page 104. Hope that helps. Regards Fiona. ( Chastneys in sheringham ) Sent from my iPad > On 28 Mar 2016, at 04:04, Keith Drage via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I know there are some WOODHOUSE researchers out there. I wondered if > anyone could give me a quick answer as to which Robert W. WOODHOUSE this > was, either in terms of parents names or date of birth. They married in > Erpingham R.D. > > There are a couple of possibles, and short of finding a marriage > certificate, I don't seem to be able work out which one. > > regards > > Keith Drage > Swindon UK > > (Their son was a friend of my mother's family in Sheringham, and I was > trying to work out if the relationship might be closer, as there are > some WOODHOUSE's crop up elsewhere in the tree) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know there are some WOODHOUSE researchers out there. I wondered if anyone could give me a quick answer as to which Robert W. WOODHOUSE this was, either in terms of parents names or date of birth. They married in Erpingham R.D. There are a couple of possibles, and short of finding a marriage certificate, I don't seem to be able work out which one. regards Keith Drage Swindon UK (Their son was a friend of my mother's family in Sheringham, and I was trying to work out if the relationship might be closer, as there are some WOODHOUSE's crop up elsewhere in the tree)

Hi, Eliza is my great aunt and was born in Hunworth Norfolk in 1884. She moved up to Lancashire, but not sure when, her brother Thomas went with her. He married in Liverpool in 1918. I cannot find a marriage for her, I don,t know if she married before she went or after. Every family member who can remember, tells me it was Aunt liza and uncle Jack from Preston, but no one knows a surname. I am aware that someone christened John can be called Jack, so that may be the case. To confuse matters more, she could be Eliza Jane or Jane Eliza. Does anyone have her, or can point me in the right direction. If so many thanks. Regards Fee. .

In response to Rosie's message, FreeBMD has only one Maud(e) TAYLOR or TAILOR born in Wayland registration district between 1875 and 1895. Not absolutely certain but well over 90% confidence it is the one that relates to the James TAYLOR family for both the 1901 and 1911 entries that Rosie has found. The reason I could not find these entries is I was using Find my past and having to search on current location because I have not found a way of using Find my past to search on birth location. I was also time limited, as I was using this in the local library and had some of my own research to do as well. So I was not making a statement that they were not there at all. One strategy is to identify all the other possible candidates born at the same time and eliminate them. In FreeBMD, there are 11 Maud(e) TAYLOR or TAILOR born in Norfolk between 1880 and 1890 so if you are being careful you might want to see if all these are elsewhere in 1901 and 1911 (or died before then). There are a further 22 where Maud is the middle name, but none from Wayland registration district. (This analysis does not cater for entries missing from FreeBMD, or from the original GRO indexes). Family search does allow search on birth location, but does not allow access to the actual census entries. It will however allow to identify claimed parish of birth against current location, so given appropriate access, you should be able to cross check most of these in a couple of hours. Finally, in regard to my previous mail, I am satisfied that the older two children I have found married in the 1911 census are the correct marriages. I am reasonably certain for the younger two that I have found the correct marriage, but you should find one more data point for each for correlation before being certain (e.g. the actual marriage certificate, correlation of birth date with some other record, or mention of married surname in a probate record). I have not done any checking in freereg because from your original mail, it looked like you had already done that. regards Keith Drage Swindon UK On 19-Mar-16 7:58 AM, xpn11 via wrote: > Just a follow up to Keith's mail. I found a Maud Taylor born Griston c > 1886 on the 1911 as a servant to George and Matilda Berney of Bracon Ash > Hall Bracon Ash with Hethel. No middle initial so not sure if this is > the right Maud. George Berney is born Australia, and on the 1901 > Ancestry has a Maud Taylor aged 16 born Griston working for the Mason > family of Beechamwell Farm-next to Beechamwell Hall. Again I have not > checked if there was another Maud born Griston to fit the bill. > Rosie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Rosie, Appreciate all your help! Jennifer R. Burrell Print Media Consulting 2040 Broadleaf Cres., Burlington, ON L7L 6S4 Tel: 905-331-0564 Cell:289-838-4626 Fax: 905-331-1431 Email: jennifer@printme.ca -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of xpn11 via Sent: March-19-16 3:59 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Re. Maude Taylor of Griston Just a follow up to Keith's mail. I found a Maud Taylor born Griston c 1886 on the 1911 as a servant to George and Matilda Berney of Bracon Ash Hall Bracon Ash with Hethel. No middle initial so not sure if this is the right Maud. George Berney is born Australia, and on the 1901 Ancestry has a Maud Taylor aged 16 born Griston working for the Mason family of Beechamwell Farm-next to Beechamwell Hall. Again I have not checked if there was another Maud born Griston to fit the bill. Rosie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thank you Keith, I will further investigate. I am not completely sure on how to use FreeReg, but I do refer to it and then to Familysearch.org to get more information. My Maude, immigrated to Canada in 1913 - apparently very pregnant at the time with my grandmother. he married Allen Simmons and 6 to 8 months later gave birth to my grandmother in Quebec, Canada. As she was the middle child, based upon your information below, it seems that the old 2 and younger 2 stayed in England. I also have issue with find my past. I do better with ancestry and family search. Thank you for all your help. I greatly appreciate it. Cheers, Jennifer R. Burrell Print Media Consulting 2040 Broadleaf Cres., Burlington, ON L7L 6S4 Tel: 905-331-0564 Cell:289-838-4626 Fax: 905-331-1431 Email: jennifer@printme.ca -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Drage via Sent: March-19-16 8:32 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] Re. Maude Taylor of Griston In response to Rosie's message, FreeBMD has only one Maud(e) TAYLOR or TAILOR born in Wayland registration district between 1875 and 1895. Not absolutely certain but well over 90% confidence it is the one that relates to the James TAYLOR family for both the 1901 and 1911 entries that Rosie has found. The reason I could not find these entries is I was using Find my past and having to search on current location because I have not found a way of using Find my past to search on birth location. I was also time limited, as I was using this in the local library and had some of my own research to do as well. So I was not making a statement that they were not there at all. One strategy is to identify all the other possible candidates born at the same time and eliminate them. In FreeBMD, there are 11 Maud(e) TAYLOR or TAILOR born in Norfolk between 1880 and 1890 so if you are being careful you might want to see if all these are elsewhere in 1901 and 1911 (or died before then). There are a further 22 where Maud is the middle name, but none from Wayland registration district. (This analysis does not cater for entries missing from FreeBMD, or from the original GRO indexes). Family search does allow search on birth location, but does not allow access to the actual census entries. It will however allow to identify claimed parish of birth against current location, so given appropriate access, you should be able to cross check most of these in a couple of hours. Finally, in regard to my previous mail, I am satisfied that the older two children I have found married in the 1911 census are the correct marriages. I am reasonably certain for the younger two that I have found the correct marriage, but you should find one more data point for each for correlation before being certain (e.g. the actual marriage certificate, correlation of birth date with some other record, or mention of married surname in a probate record). I have not done any checking in freereg because from your original mail, it looked like you had already done that. regards Keith Drage Swindon UK On 19-Mar-16 7:58 AM, xpn11 via wrote: > Just a follow up to Keith's mail. I found a Maud Taylor born Griston c > 1886 on the 1911 as a servant to George and Matilda Berney of Bracon > Ash Hall Bracon Ash with Hethel. No middle initial so not sure if > this is the right Maud. George Berney is born Australia, and on the > 1901 Ancestry has a Maud Taylor aged 16 born Griston working for the > Mason family of Beechamwell Farm-next to Beechamwell Hall. Again I > have not checked if there was another Maud born Griston to fit the bill. > Rosie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Just a follow up to Keith's mail. I found a Maud Taylor born Griston c 1886 on the 1911 as a servant to George and Matilda Berney of Bracon Ash Hall Bracon Ash with Hethel. No middle initial so not sure if this is the right Maud. George Berney is born Australia, and on the 1901 Ancestry has a Maud Taylor aged 16 born Griston working for the Mason family of Beechamwell Farm-next to Beechamwell Hall. Again I have not checked if there was another Maud born Griston to fit the bill. Rosie