Hi Richard, I believe the area around Aylsham and Norwich was liberaly sprinkled with Robert Spink's. I think this is your family in 1851 in Aylsham : Robert Spink Head 38 Ag Lab All born Aylsham Ann " Wife 29 Sarah Ann " Dau 10 Charlotte " " 6 Elizabeth " " 4 Hannah " " 2 James " Father 77 born Burgh Thomas " Brother 19 " Aylsham Robert Spink married Ann Spink Williamson 2nd Q 1842 in Aylsham There was another married of a Robert Spink in Aylsham Jan-Mar 1848 which could have produced the other Elizabeth Spink born 1849. Just an overabundance of Robert Spinks I think Gill Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <rjsfh1949@googlemail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] Looking for a Spink Marriage in Aylsham > Just to make things even more complicated. > > The Aylsham Parish Baptism Register shows: 7 Feb 1847. Elizabeth D. of > Robert & Sarah Spink. > > The Aylsham Parish Baptism Register shows: 29 Apr 1849. Elizabeth D. of > Robert & Ann Spink. Underneath Elizabeth's name is the date 7 Feb 1847. > FreeREG records this date as the date of birth which is a reasonable > assumption. > > There is also a Baptism for Elizabeth's Sister Hannah on 29 April 1849 > > There is a BMD Birth record for Elizabeth Spink in 1847 and another one > in 1849. > > It is a strange coincidence if the second Elizabeth is born on the same > day that the first one is Baptised. I have heard of children being > Baptised twice but not registered twice. And the Mother's names are > different. I wonder what is going on? > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Hello everybody > > I have a family member called Elizabeth SPINK. Born 7 Feb 1847 in > Aylsham. Not a direct ancestor just filling in some gaps. I am trying to > find a marriage for her and I am stuck. There are two possible ones in > the BMDs in 1871 and 1875. Unfortunately, neither of them appear in the > Aylsham Parish Register so I cannot identify the correct one, assuming > either of them are. I cannot find her in the 1871 census and the 1871 > marriage is registered in Jul-Sep quarter so she should appear in her > maiden name. Using the possible surnames of spouses in FMP I did an 1881 > census search and came up with one possible, married to Charles Grix > (the 1871 record). She gives her birth place as Burgh next Aylsham which > isn't right but everything else matches. There are a couple of other > Elizabeth Spinks registered a few years earlier but that would make the > ages on the census wrong. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3928 - Release Date: 09/29/11 22:31:00

Hi Richard, Burgh-next-Aylsham is only 3kms from Aylsham, so a fairly good guess you have the right person. FreeREG has her as Elizabeth SPINK, baptised 7 February 1847 at Aylsham, parents Robert/Sarah. It doesn't help, but there is an online tree for this couple with 4 children - Elizabeth's details are very sketchy though - http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/e/w/Margaret-Lewer/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0269.html FreeREG has the childrens' baptisms listed, but mother's maiden name isn't given. Charles Grix is shown as born 1851 in Marsham. There is some activity on this name on Ancestry - http://boards.ancestry.com.au/surnames.grix/3.1/mb.ashx Memorial at Burgh next Aylsham for Elizabeth GRIX, died 29 January 1925 aged 75 years, beloved wife of Charles - http://epitaphorigins.info/Zburgh.htm Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I have a family member called Elizabeth SPINK. Born 7 Feb 1847 in > Aylsham. I am trying to > find a marriage for her Using the possible surnames of spouses in FMP I > did an 1881 > census search and came up with one possible, married to Charles Grix > (the 1871 record). She gives her birth place as Burgh next Aylsham which > isn't right but everything else matches. > Richard Spink

Hi Richard, I have a Elizabeth SPINK in my tree born abt 1846 in Aylsham, but have not spouse. Had a quick look & found a tree with her married to Charles GRIX in 3rd qtr 1871 in Aylsham. Don't know if that helps. Regards, Richard Lake ======================================== Message Received: Sep 30 2011, 09:58 PM From: "Richard" <rjsfh1949@googlemail.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: [NFK] Looking for a Spink Marriage in Aylsham Hello everybody I have a family member called Elizabeth SPINK. Born 7 Feb 1847 in Aylsham. Not a direct ancestor just filling in some gaps. I am trying to find a marriage for her and I am stuck. There are two possible ones in the BMDs in 1871 and 1875. Unfortunately, neither of them appear in the Aylsham Parish Register so I cannot identify the correct one, assuming either of them are. I cannot find her in the 1871 census and the 1871 marriage is registered in Jul-Sep quarter so she should appear in her maiden name. Using the possible surnames of spouses in FMP I did an 1881 census search and came up with one possible, married to Charles Grix (the 1871 record). She gives her birth place as Burgh next Aylsham which isn't right but everything else matches. There are a couple of other Elizabeth Spinks registered a few years earlier but that would make the ages on the census wrong. I am pretty sure I have the right one but there is still a niggling doubt. I wonder if anyone has any idea where I might find where the marriage would be recorded, apart from the BMD record. I don't want to spend any money on certificates as it uses up my rather limited beer money. If anyone can crack this, I will toast their health when I am next down the pub. Richard Spink ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everybody I have a family member called Elizabeth SPINK. Born 7 Feb 1847 in Aylsham. Not a direct ancestor just filling in some gaps. I am trying to find a marriage for her and I am stuck. There are two possible ones in the BMDs in 1871 and 1875. Unfortunately, neither of them appear in the Aylsham Parish Register so I cannot identify the correct one, assuming either of them are. I cannot find her in the 1871 census and the 1871 marriage is registered in Jul-Sep quarter so she should appear in her maiden name. Using the possible surnames of spouses in FMP I did an 1881 census search and came up with one possible, married to Charles Grix (the 1871 record). She gives her birth place as Burgh next Aylsham which isn't right but everything else matches. There are a couple of other Elizabeth Spinks registered a few years earlier but that would make the ages on the census wrong. I am pretty sure I have the right one but there is still a niggling doubt. I wonder if anyone has any idea where I might find where the marriage would be recorded, apart from the BMD record. I don't want to spend any money on certificates as it uses up my rather limited beer money. If anyone can crack this, I will toast their health when I am next down the pub. Richard Spink

thanks I will try Suffolk Co instead. Have a good weekend from the US in Wyoming

I assume this is the Henstead in Suffolk. Which parishes in Norfolk were you expecting to find them in? And are you looking for children going forward in time, or the marriage and going back in time? Have you eliminated the substantial number of Norfolk entries for this surname recorded on FREEREG? There certainly is no marriage of a James to an Ann there (yet). regards Keith Swindon UK > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Coleen Coleman > Sent: 30 September 2011 00:50 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] GORBELL/GORBLE/GORBALL FAMILIES > > > James GORBELL > B; 1734-1736 > M: 1754-56 > Ann unk > children: > Robert > B: 1782 > Jehosaphat > B: 1780 > Irene > B: 1777 > Jeronima > B: 1776 > Believe all baptized in Henstead Parish > Jeronima married James Fisk abt 1807 > #2 banns Aug 20, 27 Sept 3 1809 believe married to a Mary Catchpole? > > Ann born abt 1740 died 1824 19 Sept > James died 1782 21 June > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James GORBELL B; 1734-1736 M: 1754-56 Ann unk children: Robert B: 1782 Jehosaphat B: 1780 Irene B: 1777 Jeronima B: 1776 Believe all baptized in Henstead Parish Jeronima married James Fisk abt 1807 #2 banns Aug 20, 27 Sept 3 1809 believe married to a Mary Catchpole? Ann born abt 1740 died 1824 19 Sept James died 1782 21 June

The was a Kenny FAIRHEAD, a signwriter in Cromer a few years ago, was also on the Fire Brigade, moved to Woodton, near Beccles but now deceased, I believe he has a son in Canada as a Coastguard Officer. Frank ________________________________ From: Jonathan Neville <jneville@digitalwild.co.uk> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 29 September, 2011 19:19:38 Subject: Re: [NFK] The FAIRHEAD Family Hi all, I assume the Fairhead family who ran Itteringham Village shop for two generations are not connected to your folk? See www.itteringham.com/buildings/shop/shop Regards, Jonathan Neville ———————————————–——————————— Visit the Norfolk Mills website at www.norfolkmills.co.uk Itteringham village website is at www.itteringham.com and my African and Norfolk wildlife photos are at www.digitalwild.co.uk ———————————————–——————————— I missed most of the exchange re James Fairhead and wife Amy/Emily. Just in case no one has pointed it out, there is a record on FamilySearch - James Fairhead m. 13 Feb 1815 Loddon, Nfk Amy Wright. Both Langley and Hardley parishes are part of Archdeaconry of Norfolk. You can check Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts on FamilySearch to see whether Amy Wright's baptism is there. I noticed there iwas a Maria Wright b. Langley directly above James Fairhead in 1861 census. Might be worthwhile checking. Bonnie On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM, symonds3 <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Jon, > The parish registers for Hardley haven't been transcribed by FreeREG yet, > and the baptisms on FreeREG for Langley begin 1813 - so if Amy/Emily was > baptised in either place you will need to look elsewhere to confirm it. > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > > According to census entries, Emily's birthplace was Hardley (in 1851 and > > 1871), and Langley (in 1861). Her birth year was given as 1793 (in 1861 > > and 1871), and 1794 (in 1851). > > Jon > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I assume the Fairhead family who ran Itteringham Village shop for two generations are not connected to your folk? See www.itteringham.com/buildings/shop/shop Regards, Jonathan Neville ———————————————–——————————— Visit the Norfolk Mills website at www.norfolkmills.co.uk Itteringham village website is at www.itteringham.com and my African and Norfolk wildlife photos are at www.digitalwild.co.uk ———————————————–———————————  I missed most of the exchange re James Fairhead and wife Amy/Emily. Just in case no one has pointed it out, there is a record on FamilySearch - James Fairhead m. 13 Feb 1815 Loddon, Nfk Amy Wright. Both Langley and Hardley parishes are part of Archdeaconry of Norfolk. You can check Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts on FamilySearch to see whether Amy Wright's baptism is there. I noticed there iwas a Maria Wright b. Langley directly above James Fairhead in 1861 census. Might be worthwhile checking. Bonnie On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM, symonds3 <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Jon, > The parish registers for Hardley haven't been transcribed by FreeREG yet, > and the baptisms on FreeREG for Langley begin 1813 - so if Amy/Emily was > baptised in either place you will need to look elsewhere to confirm it. > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > > According to census entries, Emily's birthplace was Hardley (in 1851 and > > 1871), and Langley (in 1861). Her birth year was given as 1793 (in 1861 > > and 1871), and 1794 (in 1851). > > Jon > >

Parishes and dates would be good, can you specify? Also, there are the variants Godbold and Godbolt that I've come across. David On 29 September 2011 15:10, Coleen Coleman <STARRLIGHT101@webtv.net> wrote: > I am looking for any information on the following families: > GORBELL/GORBLE/GORBALL possibly even > GORBOULD in Norfolk County England. I think I may have traced my lineage > back to James and Ann (?) father of my Jehosaphat > GORBELL/GORBLE/GORBALL. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am looking for any information on the following families: GORBELL/GORBLE/GORBALL possibly even GORBOULD in Norfolk County England. I think I may have traced my lineage back to James and Ann (?) father of my Jehosaphat GORBELL/GORBLE/GORBALL.

Hi Jon, The parish registers for Hardley haven't been transcribed by FreeREG yet, and the baptisms on FreeREG for Langley begin 1813 - so if Amy/Emily was baptised in either place you will need to look elsewhere to confirm it. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > According to census entries, Emily's birthplace was Hardley (in 1851 and > 1871), and Langley (in 1861). Her birth year was given as 1793 (in 1861 > and 1871), and 1794 (in 1851). > Jon

Hi Jon I did not fully develop my thought in my earlier message. The reason I mentioned Archdeaconry of Norfolk is because one must know that in order to use the Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts. In Norfolk the parish register Transcripts were sent to the Archdeacon for six years. On the seventh year the Bishop visited the parish and transcripts were sent only to him. At least that is the theory. In my experience it does not quite work out that way. There are gaps in both at irregular intervals. Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts, handwritten, are on the LDS website along with AT's and parish registers. The BT's are a bit tedious to work with but if you want me to, I can take a look for Maria and Emily/Ann. Bonnie On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Jon's FH <jons.fh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Bonnie, > > Thanks for your Email. Yes the marriage of James to Amy has been pointed > out, but always better safe than sorry, right? Thanks! > > I hadn't noticed that Maria Wright was immediately before the FAIRHEAD's on > the 1861 census, so thanks for that! As I mentioned in a previous mail which > you may not have seen, I'm totally blind so rely on the transcripts, and I > hadn't even thought of checking others that are on the same page. So I do > appreciate your input very much. Thanks! > > Best wishes, > > Jon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bonnie, Thanks for your Email. Yes the marriage of James to Amy has been pointed out, but always better safe than sorry, right? Thanks! I hadn't noticed that Maria Wright was immediately before the FAIRHEAD's on the 1861 census, so thanks for that! As I mentioned in a previous mail which you may not have seen, I'm totally blind so rely on the transcripts, and I hadn't even thought of checking others that are on the same page. So I do appreciate your input very much. Thanks! Best wishes, Jon

Hi Jon, FreeREG has a possible marriage - Register Number 19 Holy Trinity Church, Loddon 13 February 1815 James FAIRHEAD, from Mundham, single man Amy WRIGHT, of Loddon, single woman Witnesses were Phoebe WRIGHT, Sarah WIGG, Robert FAIRHEAD Groom signed his name, bride made her mark I couldn't find any record of a baptism for Amy/Emily WRIGHT in Loddon. There is a baptism for Phebe WRIGHT at Loddon on 4 May 1800 (born 29 April 1800) with parents Thomas WRIGHT and Lucy BEE (privately baptised). Another possibility on FreeREG is at Hainford - Parents: William and Amy WRIGHT Children baptised at All Saints Hainford 8 April 1787 - Jonathan (illegitimate - baseborn; a pauper) 28 June 1789 - James (born 22 June 1789 (William Wright/Amy Alcock) 17 November 1793 - Benjamin (William Wright/Amy Alcock) 2 October 1796 - Phoebe * * 1799 - Amy Note that Amy's baptism appears as a Patron Submission on the IGI - Amy Wright, baptised 14 July 1799 at Hainford-Norfolk, parents William and Amy Wright Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I've been looking for the marriage of James FAIRHEAD to a lady named > Emily. Their children were Robert 1816, Phoebe 1819, Christmas 1826, Maria > 1828 and John 1830, the children being born at Mundham and Thurton. > Jon

I missed most of the exchange re James Fairhead and wife Amy/Emily. Just in case no one has pointed it out, there is a record on FamilySearch - James Fairhead m. 13 Feb 1815 Loddon, Nfk Amy Wright. Both Langley and Hardley parishes are part of Archdeaconry of Norfolk. You can check Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts on FamilySearch to see whether Amy Wright's baptism is there. I noticed there iwas a Maria Wright b. Langley directly above James Fairhead in 1861 census. Might be worthwhile checking. Bonnie On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM, symonds3 <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Jon, > The parish registers for Hardley haven't been transcribed by FreeREG yet, > and the baptisms on FreeREG for Langley begin 1813 - so if Amy/Emily was > baptised in either place you will need to look elsewhere to confirm it. > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > > According to census entries, Emily's birthplace was Hardley (in 1851 and > > 1871), and Langley (in 1861). Her birth year was given as 1793 (in 1861 > > and 1871), and 1794 (in 1851). > > Jon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jon I went and looked at the original parish records online just to check that Amy was not meant to be transcribed as Emily. It was Amy Wright on the original images. I would suggest that Amy may also be Emily. Don't rule her out as she is a Wright. She married at the correct time for the first child to be born in 1816. She married in 1815. James Fairhead who married Amy was from Mundham. Unless two James Fairhead's married two Wright girls then I think this is your marriage. PS did your Fairhead family end up in Australia? Regards Gay Search Record Details County Norfolk Place Loddon Church Holy Trinity RegisterNumber 19 MarriageDate * * 1815 GroomForename James GroomSurname FAIRHEAD GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition GroomOccupation GroomAbode from Mundham BrideForename Amy BrideSurname WRIGHT BrideAge FileNumber 2897 Search Record Details County Norfolk Place Thurton Church St Ethelbert RegisterNumber 120 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 05 Feb 1826 Forename Christmas Sex M FatherForename James MotherForename Emily FatherSurname FAIRHEAD MotherSurname Abode Mundham FatherOccupation Shoemaker Notes FileNumber -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon's FH Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011 5:03 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] The FAIRHEAD Family Hi everyone, I've been looking for the marriage of James FAIRHEAD to a lady named Emily. Their children were Robert 1816, Phoebe 1819, Christmas 1826, Maria 1828 and John 1830, the children being born at Mundham and Thurton. On the new style familysearch.org website, Robert's mother is recorded as Emily Wright, but Phoebe's mother is recorded as Emily Owens Fairhead. Can anyone clarify these details for me please? As I'm totally blind, I'm unable to view images to clarify these details for myself, so any help that can be given would be deeply appreciated. James died in 1869. Emily was still alive in the 1871 census and living with her sister Maria Wright, aged 78 and 82 respectively. Is anyone tracing this family, or can anyone shed light on James and Emily's marriage please? The line of interest is through their son Christmas FAIRHEAD. Kindest regards, Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

can you refresh what the caveats are please Interested in Auger entries as below Thorpe-Abbots - Laws, Auger, Bassy, Wales, Ladyman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Porter" <bjporter@telus.net> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:48 AM Subject: [NFK] Parish Surnames - Part 3 > Another batch of surnames extracted from the earliest register for the > parish indicated, with all the same caveats as provided with Part 1. > Brian > > Sisland - Wrongry > Seething - Westgate, Kettill, Wolfey, Loveledge, Clarke > Kirby Cane - Bonefolde, Shelton, Hare, Godbold > Ellingham Town - Puttork, Newstead > Tibenham - Seaman, Buxton, Neave > Wacton - Pudding > Brooke - Jenkinson, Ryberd, Tynke, Yalop > Kirstead with Langhall - Love, Muffet, Seaman > Thorpe-Abbots - Laws, Auger, Bassy, Wales, Ladyman > Stockton - Youngman, Stone, Skelton, Pratt > Geldeston - Tongett > Crownthorpe - Blanchflower, Lincoln > Carleton Forehoe - Gooch > Yelverton - Smythe, Wormguy > Shotesham AS - Stone, Goldsmith, Crickmor, Curson > Shotesham St. Mary - Mortimer > Stiffkey - Powditch, Shorting, Newbegin > Stiffkey (again, but coverage is different and seems to be St. John > the Baptist) - Paternoster, Margetson, Framingham, Greve, Pinchen, Page > Plumstead St. Michael - Belton, Bryant > Hellington near Loddon - Killett, Seaman, Baker > Rockland St. Mary - Gedge, Berkett, Davye, Punt > Reepham with Kirdestone and Whitwell - Breese, Pentyne, Southgate > Walcott - Drake, Flaxman, Bullock, Calfe, Fox, Page > Carbrooke - Wynter, Browne, George, Skott > Marlingford - Hubbard, Harris, Bobbett, Vincen[t] > New Houghton - Walpole > Belaugh - Puttock, Emmes > Tasburgh - Puddling, Reynolde, Alexander, Hartley > Fritton - Meek, Page, Ellis, Sayer > Gillingham St. Mary with Andrew - Harvey, Barthelude, Blank, Harris > Gillingham AS - Cooke, Freeman > Gillingham St. Mary [? - probably] - Gorbold, Harris, Parkinson > East Walton - Platfoot, Croxton, Ellis > West Winch - Reade, Cocke, Motley > Cockthorpe - Calthorpe, Wymer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi again, Jon. Well, it does look as if Charles and James are brothers. Charles' wife, Lydia TILLETT, was the youngest daughter of Thomas TILLETT and Ann CLAXON (my 5xgreat-grandparents) but I haven't yet found her baptism. She died (probably in childbirth) some time between 1823 & 1828. Charles remarried in 1828 (to Mary) at St Julian, Norwich (Mary was a widow, previous husband surname HOGG, her maiden name not yet known). Charles & Lydia had 5 children (that I have so far traced) and I haven't yet found any children for Charles & Mary. Charles was a butcher in the 1851 Census. I haven't traced him after this date yet. Best wishes, Gerry On 28 Sep 2011, at 15:58, Jon's FH wrote: > Hi again Gerry, > > According to the 1851 and 1861 censuses, James was born at Mundham in 1789, sorry for not having stated that sooner. > > Best wishes, > > Jon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Gerry, According to the 1851 and 1861 censuses, James was born at Mundham in 1789, sorry for not having stated that sooner. Best wishes, Jon