The 1836 Pauper Exports from Kettlestone and Heacham may be seen here: >http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/kettle1836.htm < Stan L. Langley - West Norfolk U.K. Principal Interests; JICKLING; LANGLEY; RICHMOND; WAD(DE)LOW; W(H)ILLOCK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "xpn11" <xpn11@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] !836 emigration Around 40 people from Kettlestone emigrated to Canada in 1836 From bits and pieces on the National Archive indexes which mentions records of expenses and elsewhere I got the impression they were actively encouraged to emigrate so they were not a drain on the local tax payers who had to pay for poor law relief On this Holkham page there are details of how £200 had been borrowed from the government and the vicar also borrowed money from the Coke estate which owned land in Kettlestone. The emigrants clothing is described as being in a wretched state. Fulmodeston is also mentioned http://www.holkham.co.uk/downloads/WS_2010.pdf As I understand it ( very shaky here) there was a great depression in the 1830s for a number of reasons, including 60 years of enclosures acts. In 1834 the Poor Laws were amended to cut out relief, so paupers would have been forced into the work house instead of getting a supplement to low wages. Rate payers would have had to fund the relief without getting cheap workers so no doubt they were not tardy in shuffling paupers onto ships bound to Canada Rosie On 13/11/2011 12:40, Jill Bloom wrote: > Bonnie > > Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 > emigration? > I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, > plus > the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for > Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century emigres. > > Interested because our twig of the Nortons was apparently all that was > left, > at that time, of an earlier 18th century network, thriving and with a > printed genealogy would you believe! Furthermore, the last person on this > tree, Stephen Norton (b.Brooke 1782) appears to be pretty impecunious by > 1841, living in Norwich. So far the reason undiscovered. Very strange to > have relatively good info on our Scott side, a number of whom left England > for the same part of Canada in the 1880s, with others possibly leaving > Scotland at an earlier date, but nothing on any emigrating Nortons from > this > area. > > Many thanks for any clues you can give - there's no hurry . > > Jill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Ostler"<bjrgen@gmail.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:02 AM > > > The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more >> than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in >> Quebec. >> >> Bonnie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3568 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Would the burial record images for Narborough suffice? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11827-44749-63?cc=1416598&wc=12706202#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12702121 For Wendling, 1844 is after civil registration commenced. According to http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/places/w/wendling/, Wendling was in Mitford and Launditch Registration District. It looks like you can buy certs here: http://www.norfolk.gov.uk/Community_and_living/Registration_services/NCC090564 You can also check out NROCAT: http://nrocat.norfolk.gov.uk/DServe/DServe.exe?dsqServer=128.60.0.31&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Index.tcl Good luck, Stephanie On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jan Rockett <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Could anyone tell me please if the burial records for Narborough are online? > > Also, are the 1844 marriages for Wendling anywhere to be found? The > registers online on Family Search finish in 1837. > > Jan > >

Hi Jill Look for information onand 1834 poor law amendment act, the primary factor in the mass emigration of 1836. Also look at Primitive Methodism and the Swing Riots. L.Marion Springall's book "Labouring Life in Norfolk Villages 1834- 1914, published 1936 [in Canada,I obtained a copy through interlibrary loan at my local library] National Archives UK - online documents - Family History - Poor Law Union Correspondence [specifically 1835-1836 correspondence between various parish officials and the Poor Law Commission in London] 'The Ships List' website contains ads for ships sailing 1836 "Items From the Norwich Mercury, Norwich, Norfolk" Bonnie On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Jill Bloom <jescot33@googlemail.com> wrote: > Bonnie > > Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 emigration? > I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, plus > the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for > Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century > emigres.............................................................. > > Jill > >

Around 40 people from Kettlestone emigrated to Canada in 1836 From bits and pieces on the National Archive indexes which mentions records of expenses and elsewhere I got the impression they were actively encouraged to emigrate so they were not a drain on the local tax payers who had to pay for poor law relief On this Holkham page there are details of how £200 had been borrowed from the government and the vicar also borrowed money from the Coke estate which owned land in Kettlestone. The emigrants clothing is described as being in a wretched state. Fulmodeston is also mentioned http://www.holkham.co.uk/downloads/WS_2010.pdf As I understand it ( very shaky here) there was a great depression in the 1830s for a number of reasons, including 60 years of enclosures acts. In 1834 the Poor Laws were amended to cut out relief, so paupers would have been forced into the work house instead of getting a supplement to low wages. Rate payers would have had to fund the relief without getting cheap workers so no doubt they were not tardy in shuffling paupers onto ships bound to Canada Rosie On 13/11/2011 12:40, Jill Bloom wrote: > Bonnie > > Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 emigration? > I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, plus > the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for > Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century emigres. > > Interested because our twig of the Nortons was apparently all that was left, > at that time, of an earlier 18th century network, thriving and with a > printed genealogy would you believe! Furthermore, the last person on this > tree, Stephen Norton (b.Brooke 1782) appears to be pretty impecunious by > 1841, living in Norwich. So far the reason undiscovered. Very strange to > have relatively good info on our Scott side, a number of whom left England > for the same part of Canada in the 1880s, with others possibly leaving > Scotland at an earlier date, but nothing on any emigrating Nortons from this > area. > > Many thanks for any clues you can give - there's no hurry . > > Jill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Ostler"<bjrgen@gmail.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:02 AM > > > The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more >> than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in >> Quebec. >> >> Bonnie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonnie Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 emigration? I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, plus the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century emigres. Interested because our twig of the Nortons was apparently all that was left, at that time, of an earlier 18th century network, thriving and with a printed genealogy would you believe! Furthermore, the last person on this tree, Stephen Norton (b.Brooke 1782) appears to be pretty impecunious by 1841, living in Norwich. So far the reason undiscovered. Very strange to have relatively good info on our Scott side, a number of whom left England for the same part of Canada in the 1880s, with others possibly leaving Scotland at an earlier date, but nothing on any emigrating Nortons from this area. Many thanks for any clues you can give - there's no hurry . Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Ostler" <bjrgen@gmail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:02 AM The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more > than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in > Quebec. > > Bonnie

Hi GiniI believe the immigration records to Canada in my experience are a bit " hit and miss" I have looked on ther Census records of Norfolk and can only find 1 William Bird on them b in Attleborough.They were living in Besthorpe !851 censusWilliam Bird b Attleborough aged 29Emily b Besthorpe aged 24Charles aged 2 Louisa aged 10mths Also on the 1861 censusWilliam aged 39Emily aged 34Charles Dunnett aged 13Louisa aged 11yrsJohn aged 8yrsGeorge aged 6yrs On the 41 censusWilliam aged 20yrs living with Edward Bird aged 20yrs Both Ag Labs born NorfolkAges rounded up so both aged between 15-20yrsI cannot find any connection between these two William married Amelia Dunnett Wayland District which includes Attleborough Sep Qtr 1848 Wayland 13 533 Charles Bird Dunnett b Sept Qtr Wayland 13 351 which suggests he was Williams son prior to marriage My suggestion would be to get the marriage certificate of this William which should give you this Williams Father and eliminate him from your search.You can do this online from the GRO site cost is about 10 GBPHope this has been of helpMaureen in Oz > From: leonard.gini@gmail.com > Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:39:41 -0500 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] BIRD FAMILY > > William Bird > He was married in May 1840 here in Canada so he would have emigrated before > then. Family lore says that he came to Canada when he was 15, so between > 1836 and 1840. > He married Maria Batterby here in Ontario Canada on May 11th 1840. > In the census here he shows that he was born in Norfolk, nothing else and > the marriage certificate doesn't show parents > So as you can see he falls between the cracks. Does anyone know if there > are any records that might show the emigration of one of these Williams to > Canada? > > Gini Leonard > > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:11 AM, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com>wrote: > > > Hi, have you any idea when he emigrated to Canada ? if it > > is pre- 1841 then he won`t be in the census but if it was in the 1850s the > > most popular decade for emigration then he may be in the 1851 census. Do > > you know when and where he married and who ? if that was post 1837 and in > > the UK ,then there may be a marriage certificate which will give his > > father`s name . > > > > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gini Leonard" <leonard.gini@gmail.com> > > To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:02 PM > > Subject: [NFK] BIRD FAMILY > > > > > > >I am doing research on my Bird/Burd/Byrd line in Norfolk. My GG > > > grandfather, according to his death certificate, etc. here in Canada, was > > > born in Norfolk. For several reasons I think he was born in > > Attleborough. > > > There is the given name of Barnabas in several generations here in > > Canada. > > > However, there are 2 or maybe 3 William Birds born about the time of his > > > birth (1821) in Attleborough. > > > William born about March 1822 with a brother Barnabas and son of John and > > > Maria Bird > > > William born about February 1821 and also with a brother Barnabas, son of > > > William and Ann Bird. > > > Does anyone have information about where either of these 2 ended up. I > > > need to know if they stayed in England or might have disappeared from > > > Norfolk and possibly came to Canada. > > > If anyone has information about either of these 2 that could narrow down > > > my > > > search that would be great. > > > Thanking all of you in advance. > > > > > > Gini Leonard > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Expand on my William Bird info. He came to Canada between 1836 and 1840 as he was married to Maria Batterby in Canada in May of 1840. I have obtained his marriage record and there is no mention of parents. Thank you to all who answered my query. Gini Leonard On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gini Leonard <leonard.gini@gmail.com>wrote: > I am doing research on my Bird/Burd/Byrd line in Norfolk. My GG > grandfather, according to his death certificate, etc. here in Canada, was > born in Norfolk. For several reasons I think he was born in Attleborough. > There is the given name of Barnabas in several generations here in Canada. > However, there are 2 or maybe 3 William Birds born about the time of his > birth (1821) in Attleborough. > William born about March 1822 with a brother Barnabas and son of John and > Maria Bird > William born about February 1821 and also with a brother Barnabas, son of > William and Ann Bird. > Does anyone have information about where either of these 2 ended up. I > need to know if they stayed in England or might have disappeared from > Norfolk and possibly came to Canada. > If anyone has information about either of these 2 that could narrow down > my search that would be great. > Thanking all of you in advance. > > Gini Leonard >

Gini The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in Quebec. Bonnie pp Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Gini Leonard <leonard.gini@gmail.com>wrote: > William Bird > He was married in May 1840 here in Canada so he would have emigrated before > then. Family lore says that he came to Canada when he was 15, so between > 1836 and 1840. > He married Maria Batterby here in Ontario Canada on May 11th 1840. > In the census here he shows that he was born in Norfolk, nothing else and > the marriage certificate doesn't show parents > So as you can see he falls between the cracks. Does anyone know if there > are any records that might show the emigration of one of these Williams to > Canada? > > Gini Leonard > > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:11 AM, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com > >wrote: > > > Hi, have you any idea when he emigrated to Canada ? if > it > > is pre- 1841 then he won`t be in the census but if it was in the 1850s > the > > most popular decade for emigration then he may be in the 1851 census. > Do > > you know when and where he married and who ? if that was post 1837 and > in > > the UK ,then there may be a marriage certificate which will give his > > father`s name . > > > > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gini Leonard" <leonard.gini@gmail.com> > > To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:02 PM > > Subject: [NFK] BIRD FAMILY > > > > > > >I am doing research on my Bird/Burd/Byrd line in Norfolk. My GG > > > grandfather, according to his death certificate, etc. here in Canada, > was > > > born in Norfolk. For several reasons I think he was born in > > Attleborough. > > > There is the given name of Barnabas in several generations here in > > Canada. > > > However, there are 2 or maybe 3 William Birds born about the time of > his > > > birth (1821) in Attleborough. > > > William born about March 1822 with a brother Barnabas and son of John > and > > > Maria Bird > > > William born about February 1821 and also with a brother Barnabas, son > of > > > William and Ann Bird. > > > Does anyone have information about where either of these 2 ended up. I > > > need to know if they stayed in England or might have disappeared from > > > Norfolk and possibly came to Canada. > > > If anyone has information about either of these 2 that could narrow > down > > > my > > > search that would be great. > > > Thanking all of you in advance. > > > > > > Gini Leonard > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mike, I think the website did acknowledge that the list of villages was something they were working on. I think it is nice when villages have memorials that acknowledge all those who fought. My grandfather held the MM, for bravery at Vimy Ridge I believe, and although he survived, his life was probably shorter than it might have been if he had not been wounded. Rosie On 12/11/2011 14:44, Michael Peck wrote: > Hi Rosie, > > Actually I believe the village of Glandford had no casualties in WW1, at > least none are named on their memorial which is a 'general' one > commemorating all who fought, and while I was photographing it a local told > me that all their menfolk returned safely. And Glandford has no entries in > the book 'Norfolk Roll of Honour 1914-18' > Admittedly there is a gravestone in the churchyard to Sqdn Ldr S W Kellow > who fell in 1944. > > Mike. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barnabus was married and in Old Buckenhan in 1871 - not showing after that census tho below are all the BIRD baptism's in Attleborough Graham > 30.12.1627 John John > BIRD > > > > 16.01.1815 Ann John Maria BIRD > > Lab > 23.07.1816 Lucy William Ann BIRD > > Lab > 31.10.1816 Marianne Henry Mary BIRD > > Lab > 23.02.1817 John John Maria BIRD > > Lab > 17.01.1819 Barnabas William Ann BIRD > > Lab > 26.04.1819 Eleanor John Maria BIRD > > Carpenter > 11.02.1821 William William Ann BIRD > > Lab > 22.03.1822 William John Maria BIRD > > Lab > 01.06.1823 John William Anne BIRD > > Lab > 05.04.1824 Thomas Henry Mary BIRD > > Lab > 12.09.1824 Barnabas John Maria BIRD > > Lab > 27.08.1825 Mary William Anne BIRD > > Lab > 02.12.1826 Robert Henry Mary BIRD > > Lab > 24.06.1827 Martha John Maria BIRD > > Lab > 13.09.1829 Anne Maria John Maria BIRD > > Lab > 13.02.1831 Charles Charles Martha BIRD > > Wheelwright > 27.07.1831 Charles John Maria BIRD > > Lab > 04.02.1833 William Charles Martha BIRD > > Cooper > 07.02.1833 Henry Henry Mary BIRD > > Lab > 27.04.1834 Jemima > Ann BIRD > > Widow > 26.01.1835 Martha Charles Martha BIRD > > Cooper > 13.07.1835 Anna Maria John Maria BIRD > > Lab > 16.01.1837 George Charles Martha BIRD > > Cooper > 26.03.1838 Mary Ann Charles Martha BIRD > > Cooper > 29.04.1840 William Charles Martha BIRD Pilgrim > Copr b 2 Apr 1840 > 27.09.1846 Ann Maria John Martha BIRD LOVE > Labourer b 04.09.1846 / informant mother > 13.03.1854 Emma > Eleanor BIRD > > single women b 10.02.1851 /informant mother > 30.04.1854 Charles John Martha BIRD LOWE? > Railway Labourer b 26.03.1854 /informant mother > 03.08.1854 Edward Henry Hannah BIRD LINCOLN > Labourer b 31.07.1854 /informant mother > 25.01.1857 Elleanor John Martha BIRD LOOR? > Railway Labourer b 06.12.1856 /informant mother > 18.09.1859 Thomas John Martha BIRD LOVE > Railway Labourer b 14.08.1859 /informant mother > 11.08.1861 Anne Alberta John Martha BIRD LOVE > Railway Labourer b 07.07.1861 /informant mother > 17.04.1864 Gorge John Martha BIRD LOVE > Labourer b 27.02 > 06.04.1879 Jeremiah George Britania BIRD > > Labourer b 01.03.1879 > 24.04.1881 Eliza Anne George Britania BIRD > > Labourer b 15.08.1880 > 19.03.1886 James William Elizabeth BIRD > > Inn keeper b 27.11.1854 > On 12/11/2011 16:02, Gini Leonard wrote: > I am doing research on my Bird/Burd/Byrd line in Norfolk. My GG > grandfather, according to his death certificate, etc. here in Canada, was > born in Norfolk. For several reasons I think he was born in Attleborough. > There is the given name of Barnabas in several generations here in Canada. > However, there are 2 or maybe 3 William Birds born about the time of his > birth (1821) in Attleborough. > William born about March 1822 with a brother Barnabas and son of John and > Maria Bird > William born about February 1821 and also with a brother Barnabas, son of > William and Ann Bird. > Does anyone have information about where either of these 2 ended up. I > need to know if they stayed in England or might have disappeared from > Norfolk and possibly came to Canada. > If anyone has information about either of these 2 that could narrow down my > search that would be great. > Thanking all of you in advance. > > Gini Leonard > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, have you any idea when he emigrated to Canada ? if it is pre- 1841 then he won`t be in the census but if it was in the 1850s the most popular decade for emigration then he may be in the 1851 census. Do you know when and where he married and who ? if that was post 1837 and in the UK ,then there may be a marriage certificate which will give his father`s name . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gini Leonard" <leonard.gini@gmail.com> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: [NFK] BIRD FAMILY >I am doing research on my Bird/Burd/Byrd line in Norfolk. My GG > grandfather, according to his death certificate, etc. here in Canada, was > born in Norfolk. For several reasons I think he was born in Attleborough. > There is the given name of Barnabas in several generations here in Canada. > However, there are 2 or maybe 3 William Birds born about the time of his > birth (1821) in Attleborough. > William born about March 1822 with a brother Barnabas and son of John and > Maria Bird > William born about February 1821 and also with a brother Barnabas, son of > William and Ann Bird. > Does anyone have information about where either of these 2 ended up. I > need to know if they stayed in England or might have disappeared from > Norfolk and possibly came to Canada. > If anyone has information about either of these 2 that could narrow down > my > search that would be great. > Thanking all of you in advance. > > Gini Leonard > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Stoke Hammond in bucks has a colourful thankful sign on the Village green On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Simon <simon@simonknott.co.uk> wrote: > Arthur Mee included Ovington on the original list, and although it has > no WWI memorial, recent research has shown that is is, unfortunately, > not to be thankful after all. > > On 12/11/2011 13:12, xpn11 wrote: > > The BBC news web site has an interesting article at the moment about > > "Thankful Villages" . This is the term which has been given to villages > > where all the service men and women who were in combat returned alive. A > > very few are doubly thankful in that servicemen and women from both WWI > > and WWII returned alive from the conflicts. From the map on the site > > drawn from current understanding , not one Norfolk village was untouched. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15671943 > > Rosie > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Arthur Mee included Ovington on the original list, and although it has no WWI memorial, recent research has shown that is is, unfortunately, not to be thankful after all. On 12/11/2011 13:12, xpn11 wrote: > The BBC news web site has an interesting article at the moment about > "Thankful Villages" . This is the term which has been given to villages > where all the service men and women who were in combat returned alive. A > very few are doubly thankful in that servicemen and women from both WWI > and WWII returned alive from the conflicts. From the map on the site > drawn from current understanding , not one Norfolk village was untouched. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15671943 > Rosie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Rosie, Actually I believe the village of Glandford had no casualties in WW1, at least none are named on their memorial which is a 'general' one commemorating all who fought, and while I was photographing it a local told me that all their menfolk returned safely. And Glandford has no entries in the book 'Norfolk Roll of Honour 1914-18' Admittedly there is a gravestone in the churchyard to Sqdn Ldr S W Kellow who fell in 1944. Mike.

The BBC news web site has an interesting article at the moment about "Thankful Villages" . This is the term which has been given to villages where all the service men and women who were in combat returned alive. A very few are doubly thankful in that servicemen and women from both WWI and WWII returned alive from the conflicts. From the map on the site drawn from current understanding , not one Norfolk village was untouched. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15671943 Rosie

William Bird He was married in May 1840 here in Canada so he would have emigrated before then. Family lore says that he came to Canada when he was 15, so between 1836 and 1840. He married Maria Batterby here in Ontario Canada on May 11th 1840. In the census here he shows that he was born in Norfolk, nothing else and the marriage certificate doesn't show parents So as you can see he falls between the cracks. Does anyone know if there are any records that might show the emigration of one of these Williams to Canada? Gini Leonard On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:11 AM, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com>wrote: > Hi, have you any idea when he emigrated to Canada ? if it > is pre- 1841 then he won`t be in the census but if it was in the 1850s the > most popular decade for emigration then he may be in the 1851 census. Do > you know when and where he married and who ? if that was post 1837 and in > the UK ,then there may be a marriage certificate which will give his > father`s name . > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gini Leonard" <leonard.gini@gmail.com> > To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:02 PM > Subject: [NFK] BIRD FAMILY > > > >I am doing research on my Bird/Burd/Byrd line in Norfolk. My GG > > grandfather, according to his death certificate, etc. here in Canada, was > > born in Norfolk. For several reasons I think he was born in > Attleborough. > > There is the given name of Barnabas in several generations here in > Canada. > > However, there are 2 or maybe 3 William Birds born about the time of his > > birth (1821) in Attleborough. > > William born about March 1822 with a brother Barnabas and son of John and > > Maria Bird > > William born about February 1821 and also with a brother Barnabas, son of > > William and Ann Bird. > > Does anyone have information about where either of these 2 ended up. I > > need to know if they stayed in England or might have disappeared from > > Norfolk and possibly came to Canada. > > If anyone has information about either of these 2 that could narrow down > > my > > search that would be great. > > Thanking all of you in advance. > > > > Gini Leonard > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am doing research on my Bird/Burd/Byrd line in Norfolk. My GG grandfather, according to his death certificate, etc. here in Canada, was born in Norfolk. For several reasons I think he was born in Attleborough. There is the given name of Barnabas in several generations here in Canada. However, there are 2 or maybe 3 William Birds born about the time of his birth (1821) in Attleborough. William born about March 1822 with a brother Barnabas and son of John and Maria Bird William born about February 1821 and also with a brother Barnabas, son of William and Ann Bird. Does anyone have information about where either of these 2 ended up. I need to know if they stayed in England or might have disappeared from Norfolk and possibly came to Canada. If anyone has information about either of these 2 that could narrow down my search that would be great. Thanking all of you in advance. Gini Leonard

I would like to remember the following: John KEABLE born Earlham, Norfolk, emigrated to Canada but returned to England to enlist and fight in WW1. Was wounded in France. My great uncle. William Murray KEABLE born Horning, Norfolk, emigrated to Australia and fought in WW2 in the Pacific region. (my father). John KEABLE, born Horning Norfolk, emigrated to Australia and was in the airforce during WW2. My uncle Marg Keable

Remembering Alfred Norton, 3rd son of William and Matilda Norton. b.Foulsham Enlisted Mundesley. Trans.from Territorials to K.O.Y.L.I. (Private 11063). Volunteered for active service; in France from Nov.1914. Killed in trenches nr.Ypres 6th March 1915, aged 18. Alfred has no known grave, but is commemorated on the Ploegsteert Memorial, Comines-Warneton, Hainault ,Belgium, and at the churches of Mundesley and Cromer, where his family later lived. Jill

Remembering today Charles Noble born 25th November 1894 in Thorpe St Andrew, who became a private in the Royal Army Medical Corps ( 6th Field Ambulance). Died age: 23 on 12/09/1918 and buried in Bac-du-Sud cemetery, Bailleulval nr. Arras, France. Son of Frederick Waller Noble and Jane Matilda Noble, of Eaton, Norwich, where he is remembered on the Eaton war memorial. Mary Marsh