Where did Rebecca's Mum live. In London it was common for young women to go home to Mum for a birth. Just a thought. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Feldtmann" <difeldt@mcmedia.com.au> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] WARD > Thank you Elizabeth for all this information. What I need to prove now is > which of these Henrys has a mother Rebecca Bunting. I would have thought > my > Henry would have been born in Terrington SC but of course cannot always > assume. > In the 1871 census, my Henry is still living with his mother Rebecca, his > step father, George, and his five half siblings, George, John, Amy, > Elizabeth and Thomas at Roman Bank, Terrington SC. This is the last I > have > any information on him. > > Regards, > Di > > > On 5/12/11 12:25 AM, "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Hi, starting with the known facts , Ernest`s birth >> registration is in the Wisbech district ,in July 1881 . >> There is a further birth of an Ernest Ward in the Wisbech >> dist >> in Jan 1882 and a death in April 1882 . There is a Florence Ward birth >> registered in Apl 1883 and a death in the same month and year both in >> Wisbech . >> Henry Ward married Alice Amelia Wright in Yarmouth in the Dec >> 1/4 of 1878 , vol 4 b p 52 . >> The 1901 census for West End, Caister next Yarmouth has Henry >> Ward , m , 45, horseman on farm , b Acle , wife Alice, 46, b Filby , son >> Ernest , 19, labourer on farm , b Gt Yarmouth , Herbert, 17, labourer on >> farm , b Gt Yarmouth , Florence, 16, housemaid, b Gt Yarmouth . In the >> 1881 census for Trmouth , South Denes Rd , Henry Ward, head, marr, 26, >> general carter , b Acle , Alice Amelia Ward, wife , 27 , b Filby , and >> Ethel >> A Ward, dau , unm, 1 , b Yarmouth . In the 1891 census they are living >> in >> Toft Monks, Hery Ward, m , 38, horseman , crossed out , agricultural >> labourer, b Acle , Alice A , wife , 37 b Filby , Ethel E A Ward, 8, b >> Yarmouth , Herbert E , son , 7, b Yarmouth , Florence A , dau , 6, b >> Yarmouth . >> In the 1871 , Henry Ward is a live in servt , unm, 16, farm >> serv, b Acle , in the household of William Case , farmer at Southwood , >> and >> three households away is a Maria Ward, head, widow, 74, pauper , b >> Bradstone >> . This Henry Ward was indexed as Henn Ward, b abt 1855 , Elele , >> Norfolk . >> In the 1861 census for Acle Henry Ward, head, marr, 29, ag lab , b >> Strumpshaw, wife Elizabeth , aged 27, b Lingwood , Henry Ward, son , 5, b >> Tunstall , William Ward, 2 , b Acle . >> There is a family tree on Ancestry which confirms these >> linked >> census details , and the first Henry is b 1832 Strumpshaw , parents >> Richard >> and Maria Ward, and wife Elizabeth Wright . Therefore the Maria Ward >> widow in the 1871 census living near to Henry would be his grandmother >> widow >> of Richard Wood . And whilst Wright is not an uncommon name it is >> interesting to think that Henry married Alice Amelia Wright and had an >> Elizabeth Wright for his mother . >> Ward is a very populous surname and the coincidentally named >> Wisbech family may not be any relation perhaps . >> >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dianne Feldtmann" <difeldt@mcmedia.com.au> >> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >> >> >>> Hello Norfolk Listers, >>> Could someone please do a look up for me for Henry Ward-and his wife >>> Alice >>> living perhaps at Wisbech about 1880. They had 4 children-Ernest >>> (b.1881), >>> Herbert (b.1883), Alice (b. 1884) and Florence (b. 1885) I have no >>> proof >>> myself that these birth dates of the children are accurate. This is the >>> best information I have seen for years in trying to locate Henry WARD, >>> b. >>> 1856 to Rebecca Bunting and William Neep who I do not believe were ever >>> married. Rebecca married George WARD in 1861. They resided at Roman >>> Bank, >>> Terrington St Clement for at least the 1871 census. >>> Would welcome any help with this. I have just visited Norfolk but did >>> not >>> have any details of Henry's life after 1871. >>> Regards >>> Di >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dianne Feldtmann >>> Dookie, Australia >>> Researching >>> WARD, BUNTING -Norfolk >>> FORD, ALLMAN -Cheshire >>> WARD, Lincolnshire >>> JAMES, Bristol >>> WYNN(E), Staffordshire >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >

Place names.... Seasalter in Kent is named for saltings that were active back in the Iron Age. I heard that they are again harvesting salt thereabouts! Apologies for going off list but I did live hear there at one time(1955-57 in fact).... http://www.tournorfolk.co.uk/salthouse.html The church is indeed a magnificent "Norfolkian" edifice and Simon Knott's site does it credit. http://www.norfolkchurches.co.uk/salthouse/salthouse.htm This (from the site sums up why I love North Norfolk. I'm not ashamed to say I have tears in my eyes as I type... You can taste the salt in the air, the sea-spangled freshness that blusters across the green rise of the churchyard. You can sense the swell; and there it is, a leaden line stretching beyond the church, beyond the land, ceaseless, always changing. The sea is the handmaiden of Norfolk, her fortune and her fate. By the way, those talking of smoked fish should not forget Bloaters http://www.cleysmokehouse.com/bloaters.asp D On 5 December 2011 10:28, xpn11 <xpn11@aol.com> wrote: > I think Salthouse might come from where they made salt from sea water, > but I might be wrong. In the Doomsday Book many of the coastal villages > from Caister around the coast and along the Wash edge eg the Walpoles, > Holbeach and Fleet in Lincolnshire etc had salt pans where sea water > was let in at high tide and then the water allowed to evaporate and > then heated -quite a complicated process and you can see about it here > if interested > > http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/arch-769-1/ahds/dissemination/pdf/vol38/38_134_163.pdf > I have seen what looks like a likely mound of saltern waste at Mautby . > I have a dim recollection of reading that the heating the water in > tubs used some of the peat from the diggings which created the Norfolk > Broads. > The fishing industry of course used great quantities of salt to salt > down fish, but meat was also salted to last through winter or to > preserve the part of the carcase that could not be used immediately. My > late grandmother's large earthenware salting pot stands in my house with > flowers in it! My father was not over fond of salt pork and bottled > runner beans which were used in the winter months when he was a child > living at Fence Bank, Walpole St Peter. > The butcher in my village still sells salt pork as well as the more > usual salt beef. > Rosie > > On 05/12/2011 08:41, Mike Fry wrote: > > On 2011/12/05 02:28, Janice Doughty wrote: > > > >> What a strange name for a village, Salthouse. Though I suppose it must > mean > >> that it had a lot of Salthouses for salting the fish. I remember I > watched > >> one of Rick Stein's cooking shows on cable not long ago and he was at a > >> village where they salted the fish in these old timber sheds. > > Precisely! Smoking and salting fish is traditional right along the whole > of the > > east coast of Britain. Think Kippers and Smoked Haddock. > > > >> I just Googled Salthouse and saw the lovely old church, on a sloping > green > >> hill near the sea and then photographs of the interior. I suppose that > may > >> have been where Robert married Mary Ann. > > Try this site:<http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and then delete this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer.

For those following the Walpoles, Robert married Catherine Mary Bridges in October 1852 at Salthouse (Marriage Banns on Family Search Norfolk Parish Registers online for Salthouse). Catherine's father was George Wilson Bridges who was born in Beeston next Mileham, son of Henry Bridges and Ann Wilson. I know there are people on the Norfolk list who have connection to the Bridges (including myself) of Beeston and earlier ancestors going back to late 1500's in West Lexham. Regard Lesley Researching: ALLCOCK/ALCOCK: Beetley, Tittleshall, Longham, Gressenhall, East Dereham,Docking, Syderstone, Tattersett ATMORE: North Elmham, Beetley, Gressenhall AYERS: Hoe, Swanton Morley, Wending and area BENNINGTON/BENNETT/BENNETTON: Great Fransham, Gressenhall, Wendling, Sporle, BLOY: Tittleshall and surrounding area BOYCE: Gressenhall, East Dereham BRIDGES: West Lexham, Beeston & migratory areas BUNTING: Robert Bunting b 1795 of Beeston - Stanfield BUTTERS: Hoe, Gressenhall and Bintree CASON: Longham; Wendling & surrounding areas CLAXTON: Beeston & migrating areas COE: Bradenham, Beetley, Gressenhall COPLING/COPPEN etc: Gressenhall, Beetley, North Elmham CROWN: Beetley, Gressenhall and areas DAYNES: Garvestone>Surrey DODMAN: Gressenhall, Barney, West Norfolk EKE: E Dereham & surrounding area ELLIOTT: North Tuddenham, Hockering, Mattishall, East Dereham FELLOWES: Scarning, Beetley FREEZER/FRAZER: Beetley, Gressenhall, Syderstone, Holkham, E Barsham, Anmer,Beeston, Mileham & Worldwide HARMAN: Beetley, Gressenhall, Longham HARMER: Salhouse, Norwich HARRIS: East Dereham HEAD: East Dereham HERRING: Sedgeford HOOKE(S): Syderstone and surrounding areas ISBELL/ISBILL: Hoe, Yaxham, Elsing and surrounding areas JARRETT: Gressenhall, Swanton Morley JOHNSON: Houghton near Harpley, West Rudham KILLENGREY and Variants: Stoke Ferry>Longham KIRK: Hoe, Beetley & Gressenhall, East Dereham LACK: Syderstone & surrounding areas LAND: Wells, Beetley and Gressenhall LANGLEY: Syderstone, Docking and surrounding areas LUBBOCK: Kelling, Stanfield MAYES: E Dereham, Swanton Morley, Gressenhall MILLICAN: Gt Yarmouth & E Dereham MURRELL: Scarning, any connection NAILOR/NAYLOR: Bawdeswell, Billingford, Gressenhall, Elsing NEWSTEAD: Blofield, Yaxham, Mattishall Burgh PARSLEY: Blofield, Yaxham PAYNE: Wendling, Gressenhall and surrounds PHILLIPO/FLUPOT: Litcham, Longham PRESTON: Longham PURPLE: Longham, ALL RAMM: Houghton RAPER: Kings Lynn >East Dereham RAYNER: Wendling, Longham SPOONER: Gressenhall, North Elmham SYMONDS: Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall TEBBLE/TIBBLE: All THOMPSON: Longham TROLLOPE: Wiggenhall St Germans, Syderstone, Scarning, Swanton Morley TWAITES/THWAITES: Elsing, East Bradenham, Shipdham, Stanfield, Weasenham TWIGG: Beetley, Gressenhall and Mitford area and migrating of Islington area TYE: Beetley, Gressenhall, Hoe, East Bilney WATKINS: Swanton Morley WEBSDALE/WEBDALE and variants: All WHEALS/WHALES and variants: All WINTER: 1568 of Carbrook, North Elmham, Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall, Norwich, Loddon, Lowestoft, Bungay>Islington, Edmonton, Leyton>Redhill Surrey   -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of xpn11 Sent: 05 December 2011 10:29 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK I think Salthouse might come from where they made salt from sea water, but I might be wrong. In the Doomsday Book many of the coastal villages from Caister around the coast and along the Wash edge eg the Walpoles, Holbeach and Fleet in Lincolnshire etc had salt pans where sea water was let in at high tide and then the water allowed to evaporate and then heated -quite a complicated process and you can see about it here if interested http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/arch-769-1/ahds/dissem ination/pdf/vol38/38_134_163.pdf I have seen what looks like a likely mound of saltern waste at Mautby . I have a dim recollection of reading that the heating the water in tubs used some of the peat from the diggings which created the Norfolk Broads. The fishing industry of course used great quantities of salt to salt down fish, but meat was also salted to last through winter or to preserve the part of the carcase that could not be used immediately. My late grandmother's large earthenware salting pot stands in my house with flowers in it! My father was not over fond of salt pork and bottled runner beans which were used in the winter months when he was a child living at Fence Bank, Walpole St Peter. The butcher in my village still sells salt pork as well as the more usual salt beef. Rosie On 05/12/2011 08:41, Mike Fry wrote: > On 2011/12/05 02:28, Janice Doughty wrote: > >> What a strange name for a village, Salthouse. Though I suppose it >> must mean that it had a lot of Salthouses for salting the fish. I >> remember I watched one of Rick Stein's cooking shows on cable not >> long ago and he was at a village where they salted the fish in these old timber sheds. > Precisely! Smoking and salting fish is traditional right along the > whole of the east coast of Britain. Think Kippers and Smoked Haddock. > >> I just Googled Salthouse and saw the lovely old church, on a sloping >> green hill near the sea and then photographs of the interior. I >> suppose that may have been where Robert married Mary Ann. > Try this site:<http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/> > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Name: Robert Walpole Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Cathrine M Walpole Gender: Male Where born: St John, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Tydd St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: Tydd St Giles Town: Tydd St Giles County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Wisbech Sub-registration district: Leverington ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1303 Folio: 109 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Walpole 62 Cathrine M Walpole 60 born Salthouse Jessie Walpole 19 daughter born Newton Cambs Fred Walpole 11 Grandson born Newton Cambs Florence Walpole 7 Grandaughter born Tydd St Giles Cambs George Ward 22 Servant 1901 Census Robert Walpole Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Walpole Gender: Male Where born: Walpole, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Wisbech St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: Wisbech St Augustine Town: Wisbech County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Wisbech Sub-registration district: Wisbech ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 152 Piece: 1556 Folio: 57 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Robert Walpole 72 Retired Farmer born Walpole Catherine Walpole 69 born Salthouse Harriet Walpole 34 Dressmaker, single born Newton, Cambs. Best regards Lesley -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janice Doughty Sent: 05 December 2011 00:02 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] NORFOLK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 370 Good morning Rosie, No I did not have a look at the 1861 Census. It is confusing, Henry in 1861 is 16 and then in 1871 Henry is still 16 , same with John he is 14 in 1861 and 14 in 1871. Maybe they are not the same family, they just have the same names, though the John the father's age is correct. 32 in 61 and 42 in 71. I will look into it. Thank you very much for your help. Cheers Janice Belrose - Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "rosemary frost" <rosemaryfrostuk@yahoo.co.uk> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] NORFOLK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 370 > WALPOLES OF NORFOLK (Janice Doughty) > Hello Janice, > > Just in case you havent found this before - the 1861 census Wisbech area > has the following family, which must be them. It should help trace their > baptisms and possibly the marriage > > Robert Walpole 32 Shepherd born Walpole Norfolk > Mary his wife 28 born Salhouse > Frances - daughter - 8 born Salhouse > Henry - son 16 born Lynn > John - son - 14 born St Johns, Norfolk > Robert - son - 12 born St Johns Norfolk > Also two others - occupations "shepherd servant" - in the house > > Looks like perhaps Robert was married before his marriage to Mary Ann and > had the three sons by a previous wife? > > Good luck - Rosie > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janice Robert obviously married Catherine Mary Bridges as discussed offline as here they are in the 1881 Census Name: Robert Walpole Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Walpole Gender: Male Where born: Walpole St Peters Civil parish: Tid St Giles County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address: Four Gotes Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Farmer 18 Acres Registration district: Wisbech Sub-registration district: Leverington ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1694 Folio: 137 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Robert Walpole 54 Catherine Walpole 51 James Walpole 17 Annie Walpole 12 Lissie Walpole 9 Frederick Walpole 8 Best wishes Lesley -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janice Doughty Sent: 05 December 2011 00:28 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK Hi Elizabeth, I see that the children are ten years younger on the 1861 census. I should have looked it up before I sent the email to Rosie, commenting of the age problem between the 1861 and 1871 Census. It is a shame we cannot find Robert at home with is parents as a young lad. Though it has to be him in the 1851 Census in Salthouse, as this is where he met his future wife. What a strange name for a village, Salthouse. Though I suppose it must mean that it had a lot of Salthouses for salting the fish. I remember I watched one of Rick Stein's cooking shows on cable not long ago and he was at a village where they salted the fish in these old timber sheds. I just Googled Salthouse and saw the lovely old church, on a sloping green hill near the sea and then photographs of the interior. I suppose that may have been where Robert married Mary Ann. Thank you so much for all the wonderful information you have sent. I do appreciate all the help I have been given by the Norfolk Listers. Also, if anyone would like any help in tracing a rellie that appears to have fallen off the tree never to be found, they may have been given a free South Sea voyage to the Antipodes, below deck in chains. You never know and I would love to help if I can. Please do not hesitate to contact me off List. Cheers Janice Belrose - Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:33 PM Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > Hi, there is a marriage on freebmd of a Robert Walpole to Mary > Ann Holmes in the Dec 1852 1/4 in Loddon district vol 4b p 555 . > In the 1861 census the family are living at Sutton Road, > Newton, > Leverington , Cambs which is just over the border from Norfolk . > Robert Walpole is head, marr, 32, shepherd, b Walpole , > Norfolk, > wife Mary , 28, b Salthouse , Frances, dau , 8 , b Salthouse, Henry , 6 , > born Lynn, John , son, 4, b St Johns, Robert , 1 , b St Johns . > The parish records for the two Walpoles St Peter and St Andrew > are at Wisbech RO . W St A has bapts 1655 - 1966 (1771-1800) and > marriages > which are searchable online 1654-1823 & 1824 -1894 . W St P has bapts > 1601-1812 and marriages 1704-1812 . You would have to contact the RO to > find out what happened to the post 1812 W St P registers . > In the 1841 census there is a Robert Walpole , 12, ag lab, Y > for > born in county , living at West Walton Smeeth, in the household of Frances > Terrington , farmer . There is also the family of Robert and Mary > Walpole, > living at Fen end , West Walton, and he is 35, ag lab, Y, Mary is 30, Y, > and > they have William , 8, Robert, 4, Mary , 1. > In the 1851 census Robert Walpole aged 23, " Baaker & Lab " , > b > Walpole St Lawrence , is living with a family called Cubitt in Salthouse > . > Walpole St Lawrence is not immediately identifiable but there is a Tilney > St > Lawrence . > Hope this helps. > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> > To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:36 AM > Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > > >> Good morning Listers, >> >> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than the >> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 (Robert >> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I would >> also >> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >> >> Robert and Mary Ann's first child a daughter Frances, was baptised on >> 23rd >> July 1853 in Saltbush, baptised by Rev. J G Girdlestone. It is Robert and >> Mary Ann's son John, born circa 1858, whose line I a researching. >> >> I am helping my niece by marriage to trace her WALPOLE family. Her >> grandmother was Hazel Mirabel WALPOLE born 8th February 1914 in Roma, >> Queensland, Aus. Hazel's father was John Thomas WARPOLE, who arrived in >> Brisbane, Qld 13th February 1900 aged 19 per "Duke of Portand". He >> married on 28th November 1907, Eva Victoria Beatrice Miscamble in Roma, >> Qld. >> >> John Thomas WALPOLE was the son of John WALPOLE and Mary Ann GALL. They >> were married in the June Quarter of 1877. John Thomas WALPOLE was born >> in >> the Sept Quarter of 1880, his birth was registered in Wisbeach. His >> mother Mary Ann died at the age of 33 in the June Quarter of 1891 and his >> father John married his second wife Lilian Lemon in the March Quarter of >> 1892 in Wisbech. John Thomas WALPOLE died in 1951 and is buried in the >> Roma General Cemetery in Qld. >> >> Some of John Thomas WALPOLE's brothers may have also immigrated to >> Australia. One name which appears in the Queensland BMD historical >> records >> is Horace WALPOLE and one of John Thomas' younger brothers was Arthur >> Horace WALPOLE. >> >> The family story is that they can trace their line back to Sir Robert >> WALPOLE, the Prime Minister of Great Britain. >> >> I am hoping a Lister may have details of John Thomas WALPOLE'S >> grandfather >> Robert WALPOLE'S parents. Robert was born circa 1829 in Walpole, >> Norfolk. >> Robert's son John names one of his sons Horace and one of Sir Robert >> WALPOLE'S sons was named Horace, so one would assume that the name is >> being carried through by the family. >> >> My husband's DOUGHTYS also hail from Norfolk, in Ryburg, Towngreen, >> Wymondham and Terrington St. Clements. Thank you. >> >> Cheers >> Janice >> Belrose - Sydney >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, freereg has the entry for a William Saunders BORN 8th Feb 1792 and BAPT 12th Feb 1792 . son of Robert and Ann Saunders, maiden name Francis, at All Saints Alburgh, and a note saying Private Baptism Received into church 27 May 1792 . There is also a Jonathan born 3 July 1793 bapt 7 July 1793, same parents and Ann born 24 Feb bapt 15 March 1795 . Robert Saunders married at Alburgh to Ann Francis on 10th Oct 1788 witnesses John Brock and Thos Woods . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Saunders" <besaunders@hotmail.ca> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:18 PM Subject: [NFK] William Jamieson Saunders > > > > > Hello fellow list membersI'm trying to verify if William Jamieson Saunders > is in fact my grt-grt-greatuncle. My problem is I have received some > information on him but I can't find any information on Ancesetry.ca to > confirm this!The following is what I found initially:William Saunders, B: > Feb.12th. 1792 in Alburgh Parish. Father: Robert Saunders B: Abt: > 1763Mother: Ann Francis. What I just received:William Jamieson Saunders, > B: Feb. 08th. 1792 in Alburgh Parish. D: Bef. 1861Father: Robert.William > married Amelia Warnes, Dec. 13, 1814 in St. Michael Church, Aylsham, > Norfolk.Amelia was born Abt: 1793 in Aylsham. It shows Surgeon as > William's occupation. Any help in my request would be greatly > appreciated.Robert SaundersCanada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Elizabeth, I see that the children are ten years younger on the 1861 census. I should have looked it up before I sent the email to Rosie, commenting of the age problem between the 1861 and 1871 Census. It is a shame we cannot find Robert at home with is parents as a young lad. Though it has to be him in the 1851 Census in Salthouse, as this is where he met his future wife. What a strange name for a village, Salthouse. Though I suppose it must mean that it had a lot of Salthouses for salting the fish. I remember I watched one of Rick Stein's cooking shows on cable not long ago and he was at a village where they salted the fish in these old timber sheds. I just Googled Salthouse and saw the lovely old church, on a sloping green hill near the sea and then photographs of the interior. I suppose that may have been where Robert married Mary Ann. Thank you so much for all the wonderful information you have sent. I do appreciate all the help I have been given by the Norfolk Listers. Also, if anyone would like any help in tracing a rellie that appears to have fallen off the tree never to be found, they may have been given a free South Sea voyage to the Antipodes, below deck in chains. You never know and I would love to help if I can. Please do not hesitate to contact me off List. Cheers Janice Belrose - Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:33 PM Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > Hi, there is a marriage on freebmd of a Robert Walpole to Mary > Ann Holmes in the Dec 1852 1/4 in Loddon district vol 4b p 555 . > In the 1861 census the family are living at Sutton Road, > Newton, > Leverington , Cambs which is just over the border from Norfolk . > Robert Walpole is head, marr, 32, shepherd, b Walpole , > Norfolk, > wife Mary , 28, b Salthouse , Frances, dau , 8 , b Salthouse, Henry , 6 , > born Lynn, John , son, 4, b St Johns, Robert , 1 , b St Johns . > The parish records for the two Walpoles St Peter and St Andrew > are at Wisbech RO . W St A has bapts 1655 - 1966 (1771-1800) and > marriages > which are searchable online 1654-1823 & 1824 -1894 . W St P has bapts > 1601-1812 and marriages 1704-1812 . You would have to contact the RO to > find out what happened to the post 1812 W St P registers . > In the 1841 census there is a Robert Walpole , 12, ag lab, Y > for > born in county , living at West Walton Smeeth, in the household of Frances > Terrington , farmer . There is also the family of Robert and Mary > Walpole, > living at Fen end , West Walton, and he is 35, ag lab, Y, Mary is 30, Y, > and > they have William , 8, Robert, 4, Mary , 1. > In the 1851 census Robert Walpole aged 23, " Baaker & Lab " , > b > Walpole St Lawrence , is living with a family called Cubitt in Salthouse > . > Walpole St Lawrence is not immediately identifiable but there is a Tilney > St > Lawrence . > Hope this helps. > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> > To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:36 AM > Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > > >> Good morning Listers, >> >> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than the >> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 (Robert >> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I would >> also >> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >> >> Robert and Mary Ann's first child a daughter Frances, was baptised on >> 23rd >> July 1853 in Saltbush, baptised by Rev. J G Girdlestone. It is Robert and >> Mary Ann's son John, born circa 1858, whose line I a researching. >> >> I am helping my niece by marriage to trace her WALPOLE family. Her >> grandmother was Hazel Mirabel WALPOLE born 8th February 1914 in Roma, >> Queensland, Aus. Hazel's father was John Thomas WARPOLE, who arrived in >> Brisbane, Qld 13th February 1900 aged 19 per "Duke of Portand". He >> married on 28th November 1907, Eva Victoria Beatrice Miscamble in Roma, >> Qld. >> >> John Thomas WALPOLE was the son of John WALPOLE and Mary Ann GALL. They >> were married in the June Quarter of 1877. John Thomas WALPOLE was born >> in >> the Sept Quarter of 1880, his birth was registered in Wisbeach. His >> mother Mary Ann died at the age of 33 in the June Quarter of 1891 and his >> father John married his second wife Lilian Lemon in the March Quarter of >> 1892 in Wisbech. John Thomas WALPOLE died in 1951 and is buried in the >> Roma General Cemetery in Qld. >> >> Some of John Thomas WALPOLE's brothers may have also immigrated to >> Australia. One name which appears in the Queensland BMD historical >> records >> is Horace WALPOLE and one of John Thomas' younger brothers was Arthur >> Horace WALPOLE. >> >> The family story is that they can trace their line back to Sir Robert >> WALPOLE, the Prime Minister of Great Britain. >> >> I am hoping a Lister may have details of John Thomas WALPOLE'S >> grandfather >> Robert WALPOLE'S parents. Robert was born circa 1829 in Walpole, >> Norfolk. >> Robert's son John names one of his sons Horace and one of Sir Robert >> WALPOLE'S sons was named Horace, so one would assume that the name is >> being carried through by the family. >> >> My husband's DOUGHTYS also hail from Norfolk, in Ryburg, Towngreen, >> Wymondham and Terrington St. Clements. Thank you. >> >> Cheers >> Janice >> Belrose - Sydney >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning Bob and Listers, Yes, I also came to that conclusion that the time frame matched with the birth of their first child. However, I hoped I may have found a descendant on the List, who may have been able to answer many of the questions. Sometimes you can fluke it and find that person. Thank you for you suggestion and to others that also came to the same conclusion. Cheers Janice Belrose - Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Rust" <robert.rust@ukgateway.net> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > Hello Janice > > It would seem to me that the most likely marriage in the time frame is > between Robert and Mary Ann HOLMES 1852 December quarter Loddon 4b 555. > > Regards Bob > >

Good morning Rosie, No I did not have a look at the 1861 Census. It is confusing, Henry in 1861 is 16 and then in 1871 Henry is still 16 , same with John he is 14 in 1861 and 14 in 1871. Maybe they are not the same family, they just have the same names, though the John the father's age is correct. 32 in 61 and 42 in 71. I will look into it. Thank you very much for your help. Cheers Janice Belrose - Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "rosemary frost" <rosemaryfrostuk@yahoo.co.uk> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] NORFOLK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 370 > WALPOLES OF NORFOLK (Janice Doughty) > Hello Janice, > > Just in case you havent found this before - the 1861 census Wisbech area > has the following family, which must be them. It should help trace their > baptisms and possibly the marriage > > Robert Walpole 32 Shepherd born Walpole Norfolk > Mary his wife 28 born Salhouse > Frances - daughter - 8 born Salhouse > Henry - son 16 born Lynn > John - son - 14 born St Johns, Norfolk > Robert - son - 12 born St Johns Norfolk > Also two others - occupations "shepherd servant" - in the house > > Looks like perhaps Robert was married before his marriage to Mary Ann and > had the three sons by a previous wife? > > Good luck - Rosie > >

On 2011/12/05 02:28, Janice Doughty wrote: > What a strange name for a village, Salthouse. Though I suppose it must mean > that it had a lot of Salthouses for salting the fish. I remember I watched > one of Rick Stein's cooking shows on cable not long ago and he was at a > village where they salted the fish in these old timber sheds. Precisely! Smoking and salting fish is traditional right along the whole of the east coast of Britain. Think Kippers and Smoked Haddock. > I just Googled Salthouse and saw the lovely old church, on a sloping green > hill near the sea and then photographs of the interior. I suppose that may > have been where Robert married Mary Ann. Try this site: <http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/> -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

I think Salthouse might come from where they made salt from sea water, but I might be wrong. In the Doomsday Book many of the coastal villages from Caister around the coast and along the Wash edge eg the Walpoles, Holbeach and Fleet in Lincolnshire etc had salt pans where sea water was let in at high tide and then the water allowed to evaporate and then heated -quite a complicated process and you can see about it here if interested http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/arch-769-1/ahds/dissemination/pdf/vol38/38_134_163.pdf I have seen what looks like a likely mound of saltern waste at Mautby . I have a dim recollection of reading that the heating the water in tubs used some of the peat from the diggings which created the Norfolk Broads. The fishing industry of course used great quantities of salt to salt down fish, but meat was also salted to last through winter or to preserve the part of the carcase that could not be used immediately. My late grandmother's large earthenware salting pot stands in my house with flowers in it! My father was not over fond of salt pork and bottled runner beans which were used in the winter months when he was a child living at Fence Bank, Walpole St Peter. The butcher in my village still sells salt pork as well as the more usual salt beef. Rosie On 05/12/2011 08:41, Mike Fry wrote: > On 2011/12/05 02:28, Janice Doughty wrote: > >> What a strange name for a village, Salthouse. Though I suppose it must mean >> that it had a lot of Salthouses for salting the fish. I remember I watched >> one of Rick Stein's cooking shows on cable not long ago and he was at a >> village where they salted the fish in these old timber sheds. > Precisely! Smoking and salting fish is traditional right along the whole of the > east coast of Britain. Think Kippers and Smoked Haddock. > >> I just Googled Salthouse and saw the lovely old church, on a sloping green >> hill near the sea and then photographs of the interior. I suppose that may >> have been where Robert married Mary Ann. > Try this site:<http://www.salthousehistory.co.uk/> >

Hi, yes , Norfolk has one of the longest coastlines of any county and Salthouses were just that , and the programme you saw was I think perhaps in Scotland where they still do a lot of smoking fish , fishing is much diminished here , except for the endless Cromer crabs !!! And yes all the churches along the coast are big and the result of very rich farmers and fishermen donating money over the centuries , and sadly too big to keep going now . I am sure that is where they married and its good to see where they were exactly , makes it very real . I had the privilege of visiting Australia and stayed in Melbourne for nearly a week helping an Aussie friend who lives in Sydney although at the time she lived in Katoomba, with her ancestry at the Vic RO in Collins St , and we had a good old rummage in all the earliest records . The real tragedy is that all the Australian census details are gone . My grandfather was born in Beaconsfield Parade in South Melbourne in 1887 and I have no record of what the family did whilst there , nor when they exactly came back to the UK . His mother and three siblings went on SS Parsee in 1886 , I have never found his father`s immigration , nor any trace of the return journey , but they were back for the 1901 census here .......they left two of the older children in Melbourne and I have Australian cousins , but the parents and one son and my grandfather returned . Odd !!! I am perfectly happy with the Walpoles that the Norfolk list has found for you , and if you really feel you need to have proof of his ancestry , then get the marriage cert for him and Mary Ann Holmes, that will give his father`s name . But I am sure he is the Robert aged 4 of West Walton son of Robert and Mary in the 1841 census. I don`t think they had any idea how old they were or when they were born ........birthdays etc are a very modern invenstion . Hope you have got some feel for the fens from this and have managed to find a map of this part of Norfolk /Cambridgeshire , its very flat , man made land and the villages and farms are scattered and remote , it can also get very very very cold !!!!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > Hi Elizabeth, > > I see that the children are ten years younger on the 1861 census. I > should > have looked it up before I sent the email to Rosie, commenting of the age > problem between the 1861 and 1871 Census. It is a shame we cannot find > Robert at home with is parents as a young lad. Though it has to be him in > the 1851 Census in Salthouse, as this is where he met his future wife. > What > a strange name for a village, Salthouse. Though I suppose it must mean > that > it had a lot of Salthouses for salting the fish. I remember I watched one > of Rick Stein's cooking shows on cable not long ago and he was at a > village > where they salted the fish in these old timber sheds. > > I just Googled Salthouse and saw the lovely old church, on a sloping green > hill near the sea and then photographs of the interior. I suppose that > may > have been where Robert married Mary Ann. > > Thank you so much for all the wonderful information you have sent. I do > appreciate all the help I have been given by the Norfolk Listers. > > Also, if anyone would like any help in tracing a rellie that appears to > have > fallen off the tree never to be found, they may have been given a free > South > Sea voyage to the Antipodes, below deck in chains. You never know and I > would love to help if I can. Please do not hesitate to contact me off > List. > > Cheers > Janice > Belrose - Sydney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:33 PM > Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > > >> Hi, there is a marriage on freebmd of a Robert Walpole to >> Mary >> Ann Holmes in the Dec 1852 1/4 in Loddon district vol 4b p 555 . >> In the 1861 census the family are living at Sutton Road, >> Newton, >> Leverington , Cambs which is just over the border from Norfolk . >> Robert Walpole is head, marr, 32, shepherd, b Walpole , >> Norfolk, >> wife Mary , 28, b Salthouse , Frances, dau , 8 , b Salthouse, Henry , 6 , >> born Lynn, John , son, 4, b St Johns, Robert , 1 , b St Johns . >> The parish records for the two Walpoles St Peter and St >> Andrew >> are at Wisbech RO . W St A has bapts 1655 - 1966 (1771-1800) and >> marriages >> which are searchable online 1654-1823 & 1824 -1894 . W St P has bapts >> 1601-1812 and marriages 1704-1812 . You would have to contact the RO to >> find out what happened to the post 1812 W St P registers . >> In the 1841 census there is a Robert Walpole , 12, ag lab, Y >> for >> born in county , living at West Walton Smeeth, in the household of >> Frances >> Terrington , farmer . There is also the family of Robert and Mary >> Walpole, >> living at Fen end , West Walton, and he is 35, ag lab, Y, Mary is 30, Y, >> and >> they have William , 8, Robert, 4, Mary , 1. >> In the 1851 census Robert Walpole aged 23, " Baaker & Lab " , >> b >> Walpole St Lawrence , is living with a family called Cubitt in Salthouse >> . >> Walpole St Lawrence is not immediately identifiable but there is a Tilney >> St >> Lawrence . >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:36 AM >> Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >> >> >>> Good morning Listers, >>> >>> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than the >>> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 (Robert >>> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I would >>> also >>> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >>> >>> Robert and Mary Ann's first child a daughter Frances, was baptised on >>> 23rd >>> July 1853 in Saltbush, baptised by Rev. J G Girdlestone. It is Robert >>> and >>> Mary Ann's son John, born circa 1858, whose line I a researching. >>> >>> I am helping my niece by marriage to trace her WALPOLE family. Her >>> grandmother was Hazel Mirabel WALPOLE born 8th February 1914 in Roma, >>> Queensland, Aus. Hazel's father was John Thomas WARPOLE, who arrived in >>> Brisbane, Qld 13th February 1900 aged 19 per "Duke of Portand". He >>> married on 28th November 1907, Eva Victoria Beatrice Miscamble in Roma, >>> Qld. >>> >>> John Thomas WALPOLE was the son of John WALPOLE and Mary Ann GALL. They >>> were married in the June Quarter of 1877. John Thomas WALPOLE was born >>> in >>> the Sept Quarter of 1880, his birth was registered in Wisbeach. His >>> mother Mary Ann died at the age of 33 in the June Quarter of 1891 and >>> his >>> father John married his second wife Lilian Lemon in the March Quarter of >>> 1892 in Wisbech. John Thomas WALPOLE died in 1951 and is buried in the >>> Roma General Cemetery in Qld. >>> >>> Some of John Thomas WALPOLE's brothers may have also immigrated to >>> Australia. One name which appears in the Queensland BMD historical >>> records >>> is Horace WALPOLE and one of John Thomas' younger brothers was Arthur >>> Horace WALPOLE. >>> >>> The family story is that they can trace their line back to Sir Robert >>> WALPOLE, the Prime Minister of Great Britain. >>> >>> I am hoping a Lister may have details of John Thomas WALPOLE'S >>> grandfather >>> Robert WALPOLE'S parents. Robert was born circa 1829 in Walpole, >>> Norfolk. >>> Robert's son John names one of his sons Horace and one of Sir Robert >>> WALPOLE'S sons was named Horace, so one would assume that the name is >>> being carried through by the family. >>> >>> My husband's DOUGHTYS also hail from Norfolk, in Ryburg, Towngreen, >>> Wymondham and Terrington St. Clements. Thank you. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Janice >>> Belrose - Sydney >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Elizabeth for all this information. What I need to prove now is which of these Henrys has a mother Rebecca Bunting. I would have thought my Henry would have been born in Terrington SC but of course cannot always assume. In the 1871 census, my Henry is still living with his mother Rebecca, his step father, George, and his five half siblings, George, John, Amy, Elizabeth and Thomas at Roman Bank, Terrington SC. This is the last I have any information on him. Regards, Di On 5/12/11 12:25 AM, "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi, starting with the known facts , Ernest`s birth > registration is in the Wisbech district ,in July 1881 . > There is a further birth of an Ernest Ward in the Wisbech dist > in Jan 1882 and a death in April 1882 . There is a Florence Ward birth > registered in Apl 1883 and a death in the same month and year both in > Wisbech . > Henry Ward married Alice Amelia Wright in Yarmouth in the Dec > 1/4 of 1878 , vol 4 b p 52 . > The 1901 census for West End, Caister next Yarmouth has Henry > Ward , m , 45, horseman on farm , b Acle , wife Alice, 46, b Filby , son > Ernest , 19, labourer on farm , b Gt Yarmouth , Herbert, 17, labourer on > farm , b Gt Yarmouth , Florence, 16, housemaid, b Gt Yarmouth . In the > 1881 census for Trmouth , South Denes Rd , Henry Ward, head, marr, 26, > general carter , b Acle , Alice Amelia Ward, wife , 27 , b Filby , and Ethel > A Ward, dau , unm, 1 , b Yarmouth . In the 1891 census they are living in > Toft Monks, Hery Ward, m , 38, horseman , crossed out , agricultural > labourer, b Acle , Alice A , wife , 37 b Filby , Ethel E A Ward, 8, b > Yarmouth , Herbert E , son , 7, b Yarmouth , Florence A , dau , 6, b > Yarmouth . > In the 1871 , Henry Ward is a live in servt , unm, 16, farm > serv, b Acle , in the household of William Case , farmer at Southwood , and > three households away is a Maria Ward, head, widow, 74, pauper , b Bradstone > . This Henry Ward was indexed as Henn Ward, b abt 1855 , Elele , Norfolk . > In the 1861 census for Acle Henry Ward, head, marr, 29, ag lab , b > Strumpshaw, wife Elizabeth , aged 27, b Lingwood , Henry Ward, son , 5, b > Tunstall , William Ward, 2 , b Acle . > There is a family tree on Ancestry which confirms these linked > census details , and the first Henry is b 1832 Strumpshaw , parents Richard > and Maria Ward, and wife Elizabeth Wright . Therefore the Maria Ward > widow in the 1871 census living near to Henry would be his grandmother widow > of Richard Wood . And whilst Wright is not an uncommon name it is > interesting to think that Henry married Alice Amelia Wright and had an > Elizabeth Wright for his mother . > Ward is a very populous surname and the coincidentally named > Wisbech family may not be any relation perhaps . > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dianne Feldtmann" <difeldt@mcmedia.com.au> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:13 AM > Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > > >> Hello Norfolk Listers, >> Could someone please do a look up for me for Henry Ward-and his wife Alice >> living perhaps at Wisbech about 1880. They had 4 children-Ernest >> (b.1881), >> Herbert (b.1883), Alice (b. 1884) and Florence (b. 1885) I have no proof >> myself that these birth dates of the children are accurate. This is the >> best information I have seen for years in trying to locate Henry WARD, b. >> 1856 to Rebecca Bunting and William Neep who I do not believe were ever >> married. Rebecca married George WARD in 1861. They resided at Roman >> Bank, >> Terrington St Clement for at least the 1871 census. >> Would welcome any help with this. I have just visited Norfolk but did not >> have any details of Henry's life after 1871. >> Regards >> Di >> >> >> >> -- >> Dianne Feldtmann >> Dookie, Australia >> Researching >> WARD, BUNTING -Norfolk >> FORD, ALLMAN -Cheshire >> WARD, Lincolnshire >> JAMES, Bristol >> WYNN(E), Staffordshire >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Salthouse has a very good family history site. www.salthousehistory.co.uk Honor. Vanc. Island

G'day Janice & Listers ! Yesterday I chipped in a few thoughts to this thread about the WALPOLEs and the fact that Horace WALPOLE built his "Strawberry Hill Gothic" house in the suburb of Twickenham in S.W. London (and how it has just been restored to its original glory after a long period as part of a Catholic Teacher Training College). You have now added these further items of info about the extraordinary collection of Christian names that the family used - one of these names stuck out very prominently when I read this ! - as the College is situated on WALDEGRAVE Road in Twickenham ! I think those of you with a great interest in this topic will find lots more yet to research ! Good Hunting ! Roger. -------------------- On 3 Dec 2011, at 23:53, Janice Doughty wrote: > Good morning Listers, > > I thought Listers may be interested in these names, as I just had > another look at the state of Queensland's BMD website. It would > appear that most of these family would trace their beginnings back > to Norfolk. These are marriages around the time John Thomas > WALPOLE married Eva in 1907 in Queensland. The names for the > WALPOLES do appear to have connections back to Engand, the number > of Christians names some of them have are unbelievable, a real > mouth full. > > Marriages:- > > 1899/C1019 Walpole, Horace Henry to O'Neill, Kathleen Aloysia > Zavour > > 1903/B2743 Burke, Michael Dennis to Walpole, Christina > > 1907/C2115 Walpole, John Thomas to Miscamble, Eva Victoria > Beatrice (our JOHN) > 1908/C2591 Walpole, William John to Kretschmann, Mary Anna > Bertha > 1912/C3212 Graham, Mary Elizabeth to Walpole, Robert Gloucester > 1913/C808 Owen, Annie to Walpole, Horace Edward Waldegrave > > > Have a look at father's name on the birth of his son in 1903, > sounds like he was born to be Lord of the Manor:- > > Year Name of Child > Father's > Name > Mother's Name > > 1903/C4672 Herbert Orford Walpole Robert Somerset George > Reginald Mary Annie Beaver > > > Robert Somerset George Reginald Walpole, what a mouth full and then > there is this one:- > > Year Name of Child > Father's > Name > Mother's Name > 1914/C3379 Nancy Letitia Walpole Horace Edward Waldegrave > Annie Owen > > I have not yet searched to see if any of the above immigrated to Oz > as yet and if they are related to John Thomas WALPOLE. The > immigrants arrived via Port Phillip Bay in Melbourne, Port Jackson > Sydney and Moreton Bay in Brisbane. It would be interesting to > follow it up to see how many did immigrate around the same time as > John, or in some cases a lot earlier. > > I have now had a peek into the NSW BDM Website, and the Walpoles > were in New South Wales from around 1825 and there are Horatios, > Horaces, Roberts. > > The WALPOLE who arrived in 1825, came below deck in chains per > "Asia 4". He was George Walpole born circa 1797. He was sentenced > to 14 years transportation. George received a Conditional Pardon > and was working for the Colonial Secretary Department in Sydney > Town at the time of the 1828 Census. He married an Ann Mantle in > Sydney in 1826. She arrived as a 23 year old, free in 1826 per > "Thames". I wonder if she was his girl friend/fiancé who joined > him Down Under? I found George's trial, he was tried in Ireland, > he was a police constable . A very interesting case you can read > it on this website:- > > http://www.users.on.net/~lamingtonchild/kingsmill/ > > Cheers > Janice > Belrose - Sydney >

Hi thanks for this , all I wish is I wasn`t so cold my fingers won`t type properly and I am reading mega typos and apologise for all of them ....... life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Janet Tennant" <d_jtennant@sympatico.ca> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] WARD > Eliazabeth > Just a comment. Toft Monks although fairly close to Beccles, is one of > the Parishes which has (had) a detached portion on the island formed by > the rivers Waveney and Yare with the New Cut between Haddiscoe and > Reedham so he may have stayed closer to home than you might think. > Dave > On 12/4/2011 8:25 AM, elizabeth howard wrote: >> In the 1891 census they are living in >> Toft Monks, Hery Ward, m , 38, horseman , crossed out , agricultural >> labourer, b Acle , Alice A , wife , 37 b Filby , Ethel E A Ward, 8, b >> Yarmouth , Herbert E , son , 7, b Yarmouth , Florence A , dau , 6, b >> Yarmouth . >> >> >> >> l > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, it looks like Freereg has her as Ann Shailes, married to James Doughty in 1785 in Terrington St C the witnesses are Benn Easter and John Ockley . There are a couple of James Doughty bapts on freereg in 1765 in Wighton son of James and Ann , the other the base born son of Mary Doughty bapt in 1760 in Scarning . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> To: "andrew stevenson" <steamman20002000@yahoo.co.uk>; <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] DOUGHTYS OF NORFOLK > Good afternoon Andrew, > > My husband's Doughty family has been traced back to a James Doughty and an > Ann Stailer both of the parish of Terrington St Clement, who were married > in > the parish church by Banns on 23rd Nov 1785. Their son Robert Doughty > married Alice Gathercole on 14 May 1807 by the Rev. Ambrose Goode at the > parish church. Witnesses were Hannah and William Reader. Children born to > the couple were John Doughty 1808(died ???), Robert Doughty 1811 died > before > 1819, Hannah Doughty 1813 died 1813, Hannah Doughty 1814, Mary Doughty > 1817, > Robert Nicholas Doughty 1819. Robert Nicholas Doughty is my husband's > line. > Robert Nicholas was baptised at Walpole St Peter in Norfolk by Rev. John > Nelson on 19th December 1819. > > Robert Nicholas Doughty was married first to "...unknown..." and she died > before 1846. In 1846 Widower Robert Nicholas Doughty married Elizabeth > Burcham at the Abbey Church of St Mary and St Thomas of Canterbury at > Wymondham. Elizabeth was born 1829 in Wymondham. Elizabeth was the > daughter of John Burcham (born circa 1793 - Wymondham - Innkeeper) and > Elizabeth Burcham (born circa 1800 - Bracon Ash-NFK). John Burcham was an > Innkeeper of "The Dove Inn" Town Green also at another time the "The Two > Brewers" and also a Butcher in Damgate Street. There were five other > children born to John and Elizabeth Burcham, we know of, John, George, > Ann, > Frederick and Sophia. > > Robert Nicholas Doughty's older brother John Doughty married Jemima > Chilvers > on 25th December 1827 at the parish church, Terrington St Clement by > Vicar, > Ambrose Goode and they had ten children, their youngest was Hannah > baptised > 24th August at the Parish Church, Terrington St Clements. Hannah is > significant to the family story and her name will again come up later. > > Back to Robert Nicholas and Elizabeth Doughty (nee Burcham). Robert was a > Surveyor on the construction of the Sewer line being laid through England, > so their ten children were born as the job moved further south. They were > born in Ruburgh and Towngreen, Wymondham in Norfolk, Tottenham in > Middlesex, > Plumstead in Kent, Farlington, Purbrook and Portsea in Hampshire. > > The family settled in Portsea, where Elizabeth used her skills she learnt > in > helping out her father in his pubs and the family ran "The George Public > House" at 84 Queen Street, Portsea. Five of Robert and Elizabeth's sons > left > England and immigrated to Australia, between 1876 and 1888. The family > story, was the boys became fascinated by the seafarers stories while they > were drinking at their parent's Pub. Especially the stories about Down > Under > and how a family could do very well down there. Also, reading how well > their cousin John Doughty and his family were doing from the letters they > received from him. John Doughty had immigrated with his wife Rebecca (nee > Griffin), her sister Sarah and her husband James Barnes to Australia per > "Trafalgar" back in 1853. > > The first of the Doughty brothers to sail away from English shores, was > Robert and Elizabeth's second eldest Robert John Doughty. Robert had > married > in Portsea in 1876 his first cousin Hannah Doughty, the youngest daughter > of > his father's brother John. It was a bit of a scandal in the family, not > only were they first cousins, Hannah was 6 years older that Robert and she > was pregnant at the time of their marriage. It is believe the family > thought it would be a good idea for them to join Hannah's older brother > John > and his family Down Under. John was 14 years older than his sister > Hannah. > John and Rebecca were living in the Southern Tablelands village of > Tumbarumba in New South Wales, raising their large family on their > property > called "Terrington". > > So Robert and Hannah left behind their families and sailed on the "Clyde" > arriving in Adelaide in South Australia in 1876. Robert and Hannah > disembarked on 6th Jan 1877 in Port Adelaide, where they stayed with > Burcham > cousins until the birth of their son Robert. They then made their way to > the town of Albury, which is on the border of the states of New South > Wales > and Victoria. There they took over the running of the Terminus Hotel, > Robert using his knowledge gained from working as his parent's Pub in > Portsea. They remained in Albury raising their growing family Robert, > Alice, John, George and Roger. They were so long in the town the corner > where the Pub stood, became known as Doughtys Corner. Their youngest son, > Roger, is my husband Alan's grandfather. Robert John Doughty made a > fortune > in Albury, from business at the Pub and also backing miners going to the > Goldfields. However, as quickly as he made his fortune he also lost > everything, leaving him a Widower and a broken man. He did not even have > enough money to have a Headstone erected on his wife's grave. > > Cheers > Janice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "andrew stevenson" <steamman20002000@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > > >> Hi, >> >>>From Kings Lynn Norfolk >> >> Great Ryburgh??? its not far from Stibbard were my line of DOUGHTY had >> been . any dates? >> >> Regards Andrew >> > ________________________________ >> From: Janice Doughty <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> >> To: NORFOLK@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011, 0:36 >> Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >> >> Good morning Listers, >> >> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than the >> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 (Robert >> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I would also >> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello fellow list membersI'm trying to verify if William Jamieson Saunders is in fact my grt-grt-greatuncle. My problem is I have received some information on him but I can't find any information on Ancesetry.ca to confirm this!The following is what I found initially:William Saunders, B: Feb.12th. 1792 in Alburgh Parish. Father: Robert Saunders B: Abt: 1763Mother: Ann Francis. What I just received:William Jamieson Saunders, B: Feb. 08th. 1792 in Alburgh Parish. D: Bef. 1861Father: Robert.William married Amelia Warnes, Dec. 13, 1814 in St. Michael Church, Aylsham, Norfolk.Amelia was born Abt: 1793 in Aylsham. It shows Surgeon as William's occupation. Any help in my request would be greatly appreciated.Robert SaundersCanada

Hi, starting with the known facts , Ernest`s birth registration is in the Wisbech district ,in July 1881 . There is a further birth of an Ernest Ward in the Wisbech dist in Jan 1882 and a death in April 1882 . There is a Florence Ward birth registered in Apl 1883 and a death in the same month and year both in Wisbech . Henry Ward married Alice Amelia Wright in Yarmouth in the Dec 1/4 of 1878 , vol 4 b p 52 . The 1901 census for West End, Caister next Yarmouth has Henry Ward , m , 45, horseman on farm , b Acle , wife Alice, 46, b Filby , son Ernest , 19, labourer on farm , b Gt Yarmouth , Herbert, 17, labourer on farm , b Gt Yarmouth , Florence, 16, housemaid, b Gt Yarmouth . In the 1881 census for Trmouth , South Denes Rd , Henry Ward, head, marr, 26, general carter , b Acle , Alice Amelia Ward, wife , 27 , b Filby , and Ethel A Ward, dau , unm, 1 , b Yarmouth . In the 1891 census they are living in Toft Monks, Hery Ward, m , 38, horseman , crossed out , agricultural labourer, b Acle , Alice A , wife , 37 b Filby , Ethel E A Ward, 8, b Yarmouth , Herbert E , son , 7, b Yarmouth , Florence A , dau , 6, b Yarmouth . In the 1871 , Henry Ward is a live in servt , unm, 16, farm serv, b Acle , in the household of William Case , farmer at Southwood , and three households away is a Maria Ward, head, widow, 74, pauper , b Bradstone . This Henry Ward was indexed as Henn Ward, b abt 1855 , Elele , Norfolk . In the 1861 census for Acle Henry Ward, head, marr, 29, ag lab , b Strumpshaw, wife Elizabeth , aged 27, b Lingwood , Henry Ward, son , 5, b Tunstall , William Ward, 2 , b Acle . There is a family tree on Ancestry which confirms these linked census details , and the first Henry is b 1832 Strumpshaw , parents Richard and Maria Ward, and wife Elizabeth Wright . Therefore the Maria Ward widow in the 1871 census living near to Henry would be his grandmother widow of Richard Wood . And whilst Wright is not an uncommon name it is interesting to think that Henry married Alice Amelia Wright and had an Elizabeth Wright for his mother . Ward is a very populous surname and the coincidentally named Wisbech family may not be any relation perhaps . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Feldtmann" <difeldt@mcmedia.com.au> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK > Hello Norfolk Listers, > Could someone please do a look up for me for Henry Ward-and his wife Alice > living perhaps at Wisbech about 1880. They had 4 children-Ernest > (b.1881), > Herbert (b.1883), Alice (b. 1884) and Florence (b. 1885) I have no proof > myself that these birth dates of the children are accurate. This is the > best information I have seen for years in trying to locate Henry WARD, b. > 1856 to Rebecca Bunting and William Neep who I do not believe were ever > married. Rebecca married George WARD in 1861. They resided at Roman > Bank, > Terrington St Clement for at least the 1871 census. > Would welcome any help with this. I have just visited Norfolk but did not > have any details of Henry's life after 1871. > Regards > Di > > > > -- > Dianne Feldtmann > Dookie, Australia > Researching > WARD, BUNTING -Norfolk > FORD, ALLMAN -Cheshire > WARD, Lincolnshire > JAMES, Bristol > WYNN(E), Staffordshire > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A Popular Guide to Norfolk Place Names on Amazon £4.95 Rosie On 04/12/2011 12:10, David Mills wrote: > Well, the coast line has changed phenomenally over the years..... Wet pool? > Nice. > > BTW what is the title of the book on names? > > best > David > > On 4 December 2011 08:52, xpn11<xpn11@aol.com> wrote: > >> The Walpole village name I had always assumed was of the same sort of >> origin as Walton being by the oldest sea defences or sea walls although >> I did read somewhere it meant wet pool ( which applied to pretty much >> everywhere around there at some time or other) >> Rosie >> On 04/12/2011 00:34, David Mills wrote: >>> Of course there is the possibility that some villages were named after >>> people! >>> >>> Which came first? The Village or the name? >>> >>> D >>> >>> On 3 December 2011 16:59, xpn11<xpn11@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, there are the Terringtons to start with on the same census records >>>> as the Walpoles and still living in the area. I was at school in the >>>> Kings Lynn area with a Docking, a Walton, Walsinghams and Massinghams ( >>>> and Willinghams which is a bit further away in Cambridgeshire), knew >>>> some Finchams . I have Guntons and Foulshams in my Swanton Morley >>>> family and there were Marshams in the village, my Great Grandfather was >>>> a Woodrow ( possibly derived from Woodrow near Cawston ) and fostered by >>>> some Harpleys. I worked with a Bayfield and one of the family is >>>> currently married to a Causton. I suppose few of these lived much more >>>> than 20 miles from the villages as the crow flies, if that. >>>> But please no jokes about Norfolk as favoured by the current batch of TV >>>> comedians, I like to think that my ancestors had good strong legs for >>>> finding a partner from a few villages away. ( even if Southery tests >>>> this to breaking point) >>>> An interesting thought is why some villages do not appear to have >>>> originated names whilst others did-perhaps there were so few from some >>>> villages that the name died out. I have seen a paper in a Norfolk >>>> archaeology publication on Norfolk place names as surnames as found in >>>> London in I think the 14th Century. >>>> Rosie >>>> >>>> On 03/12/2011 15:49, elizabeth howard wrote: >>>>> Hi , this is what is soooooo fascinating with all the >>>> movement >>>>> of people during the Industrial revolution and with transport links >>>>> increasing and emigration always a hot topic , some families never >> moved >>>>> further than 10 miles from their original eponymous villages like your >> Mr >>>>> Walpole of Walpole ......... how many others do listers know ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "xpn11"<xpn11@aol.com> >>>>> To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:21 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Probably related a long way back, if at all, being one of those names >>>>>> which come from a place. Branches of the Houghton/ Earls of Orford >>>>>> Walpoles also have Itteringham and Mannington Halls at present. >>>>>> Don't forget the Horatio/Horace could just as easily be because of >>>>>> Nelson. >>>>>> I have met Mr R. Walpole of R W Walpole soft fruit growers of Walpole, >>>>>> there seems to be quite a few families in the area who have the name. >>>>>> Rosie ( the other one) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/12/2011 14:06, elizabeth howard wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, no worries , it is easily done as you say , and >> the >>>>>>> enumerator is to blame but just in case we all went off on a search >> for >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> earlier marriage for Robert, he would , if the age of the 16year old >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> right , only 16 years old himself and even for the fens this is an >>>>>>> unlikely >>>>>>> early age for marriage !!! >>>>>>> And I wonder if this 1828 Robert son of Mary is the 12 >>>> year >>>>>>> old >>>>>>> in the 1841 living at West Walton Smeeth . The 1841 Robert son of >>>> Robert >>>>>>> and Mary aged 4 seems much closer to the 1861 Robert aged 32 . >>>>>>> Prime Minister Robert Walpole was born in 1676 at >>>> Houghton >>>>>>> Hall >>>>>>> , and was the third of 17 children , 8 of whom died in infancy . >>>>>>> Wikipedia >>>>>>> has Robert as the only surviving son . PM Walpole married Catherine >>>>>>> Shorter in 1700 and had 2 daus and 4 sons the 2nd Earl Robert had one >>>> son >>>>>>> and it would seem that that son died without issue because Horace >>>>>>> PMWalpole`s 4th son became the 4th Earl of Orford . >>>>>>> Whilst this is Wikipedia it seems that any connection >>>> would >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> either illegitmate or earlier than PM Walpole , ie his father Robert >>>> and >>>>>>> back . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Jean Greenwood"<jeangreenwood@virginmedia.com> >>>>>>> To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:30 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The births for the later children are on FreeBMD and are >>>>>>>> Henry 1855 K Lynn >>>>>>>> John 1857 Wisbeach >>>>>>>> Robert 1860 Wisbeach >>>>>>>> so Rosie correct in thinking enumerator's check misleading. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Incidentally Family Search has a baptism in Walpole St Peter for >>>>>>>> Robert Walpole on 27 Jan 1828 mother Mary - no father given. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jean >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 December 2011 13:16, elizabeth howard<elizgh@btinternet.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And just seen Rosie`s email , I wondered that , >>>> but >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> image >>>>>>>>> seems to show that the black line alongside the ages of Henry , >> John >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> Robert show where the enumerator has ticked them off , checked >> them >>>> , >>>>>>>>> rather than being a line indicating the age They seem different >> pen >>>>>>>>> strokes from the age . ???? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Janice Doughty"<adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> >>>>>>>>> To:<NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:36 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: [NFK] WALPOLES OF NORFOLK >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good morning Listers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have joined the List hoping SKS can take me back further than >> the >>>>>>>>>> marriage of Robert WALPOLE to Mary Ann ???? circa 1850 to 1853 >>>> (Robert >>>>>>>>>> could have married either Mary Ann Parnell, Young or Holmes. I >>>> would >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>> like to find which one is Mary Ann who married Robert WALPOLE. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Robert and Mary Ann's first child a daughter Frances, was baptised >>>> on >>>>>>>>> 23rd >>>>>>>>>> July 1853 in Saltbush, baptised by Rev. J G Girdlestone. It is >>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> Mary Ann's son John, born circa 1858, whose line I a researching. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am helping my niece by marriage to trace her WALPOLE family. >> Her >>>>>>>>>> grandmother was Hazel Mirabel WALPOLE born 8th February 1914 in >>>> Roma, >>>>>>>>>> Queensland, Aus. Hazel's father was John Thomas WARPOLE, who >>>> arrived >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Qld 13th February 1900 aged 19 per "Duke of Portand". >> He >>>>>>>>>> married on 28th November 1907, Eva Victoria Beatrice Miscamble in >>>>>>>>>> Roma, >>>>>>>>>> Qld. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John Thomas WALPOLE was the son of John WALPOLE and Mary Ann GALL. >>>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>>> were married in the June Quarter of 1877. John Thomas WALPOLE was >>>>>>>>>> born >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> the Sept Quarter of 1880, his birth was registered in Wisbeach. >> His >>>>>>>>>> mother Mary Ann died at the age of 33 in the June Quarter of 1891 >>>> and >>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>> father John married his second wife Lilian Lemon in the March >>>> Quarter >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> 1892 in Wisbech. John Thomas WALPOLE died in 1951 and is buried in >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> Roma General Cemetery in Qld. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some of John Thomas WALPOLE's brothers may have also immigrated to >>>>>>>>>> Australia. One name which appears in the Queensland BMD historical >>>>>>>>> records >>>>>>>>>> is Horace WALPOLE and one of John Thomas' younger brothers was >>>> Arthur >>>>>>>>>> Horace WALPOLE. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The family story is that they can trace their line back to Sir >>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>> WALPOLE, the Prime Minister of Great Britain. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am hoping a Lister may have details of John Thomas WALPOLE'S >>>>>>>>> grandfather >>>>>>>>>> Robert WALPOLE'S parents. Robert was born circa 1829 in Walpole, >>>>>>>>> Norfolk. >>>>>>>>>> Robert's son John names one of his sons Horace and one of Sir >>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>> WALPOLE'S sons was named Horace, so one would assume that the name >>>> is >>>>>>>>>> being carried through by the family. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My husband's DOUGHTYS also hail from Norfolk, in Ryburg, >> Towngreen, >>>>>>>>>> Wymondham and Terrington St. Clements. Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Janice >>>>>>>>>> Belrose - Sydney >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >