If it helps, mine were from Gressenhall and I found details on www.familysearch.org and browsed the parish registers from there. Jan -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rockett Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:22 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] BEEVOR I have a Beavor in our tree but in some instances it is spelt Be(a)voir. Sounds very posh!! Jan -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:10 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] BEEVOR Hi , I see them in the 1841 and 1851 in Fountains Yard , St Benedict .......in the 1841 Charles is 53 and in 1851 he is 60 so b c 1788 - 1791 . Y in the 1841 means he was born in the county of Norfolk , and the 1851 says he was born in Norwich . There are a number of ways to spell Beevor, Bever, Beever, Beavor , Beaver , and the v has at times been mistaken for an r ...... It may be another 12 years before you find him but he will be there , I wonder if he was connected to St John Maddermarket as a child of theirs was buried there in 1808 ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" <oldgarol@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: [NFK] Looking for help > > After 12 years of looking I am still stuck with my GGG grandfather Charles > BEEVOR. I can find no birth record or indeed his parents. > He was born around the late 1780's, married Sarah PAYNE in 1808 in St > James Pockthorpe Norwich. > According to 1851 census he was a "Dyer". > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards to all > Graham > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Elizabeth BUSH born 1771 (she also died that year) is in my clump. Her mother and both her grandmothers were called Elizabeth, so that was quite a family name. I don't have any Jeremiah BUSHes in my tree though. My tree can be seen at: www.tinyurl.com/PaulManningFamily Kind regards, Paul -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of xpn11 Sent: 16 January 2012 12:14 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] howard Not really been following this thread but I have Bush ( connected with Whisker) from Dereham, but not researched up yet but caught my eye. As there are records for an Elizabeth Bush daughter of Jeremiah Bush at Wendling 1817 plus a baptism for an Elizabeth Bush 1771 daughter of Jonathan Bush maybe try Beeston/Wendling/Longham /Scarning for them in the hope Jeremiah might have been a family name. Rosie

So true Roger Jan -----Original Message----- From: Roger Partridge Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:47 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] BEEVOR Hi Elizabeth, Jan & Listers ! Surely the really "posh" spelling of this name is BELVOIR as in the famous Castle and Hunt in the Midlands, so it could be well worth looking out for that spelling as well ? Bets Wishes ! Roger. ---------------------- On 16 Jan 2012, at 11:22, Jan Rockett wrote: > I have a Beavor in our tree but in some instances it is spelt Be(a) > voir. > Sounds very posh!! > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: elizabeth howard > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:10 AM > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] BEEVOR > > Hi , I see them in the 1841 and 1851 in Fountains > Yard , St > Benedict .......in the 1841 Charles is 53 and in 1851 he is 60 so b > c 1788 - > 1791 . Y in the 1841 means he was born in the county of Norfolk , > and the > 1851 says he was born in Norwich . There are a number of ways to > spell > Beevor, Bever, Beever, Beavor , Beaver , and the v has at times been > mistaken for an r ...... It may be another 12 years before you find > him but > he will be there , I wonder if he was connected to St John > Maddermarket as > a child of theirs was buried there in 1808 ? > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" <oldgarol@btinternet.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:23 AM > Subject: [NFK] Looking for help >> >> After 12 years of looking I am still stuck with my GGG grandfather >> Charles >> BEEVOR. I can find no birth record or indeed his parents. >> He was born around the late 1780's, married Sarah PAYNE in 1808 in St >> James Pockthorpe Norwich. >> According to 1851 census he was a "Dyer". >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Regards to all >> Graham >> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth, Jan & Listers ! Surely the really "posh" spelling of this name is BELVOIR as in the famous Castle and Hunt in the Midlands, so it could be well worth looking out for that spelling as well ? Bets Wishes ! Roger. ---------------------- On 16 Jan 2012, at 11:22, Jan Rockett wrote: > I have a Beavor in our tree but in some instances it is spelt Be(a) > voir. > Sounds very posh!! > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: elizabeth howard > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:10 AM > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] BEEVOR > > Hi , I see them in the 1841 and 1851 in Fountains > Yard , St > Benedict .......in the 1841 Charles is 53 and in 1851 he is 60 so b > c 1788 - > 1791 . Y in the 1841 means he was born in the county of Norfolk , > and the > 1851 says he was born in Norwich . There are a number of ways to > spell > Beevor, Bever, Beever, Beavor , Beaver , and the v has at times been > mistaken for an r ...... It may be another 12 years before you find > him but > he will be there , I wonder if he was connected to St John > Maddermarket as > a child of theirs was buried there in 1808 ? > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham" <oldgarol@btinternet.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:23 AM > Subject: [NFK] Looking for help >> >> After 12 years of looking I am still stuck with my GGG grandfather >> Charles >> BEEVOR. I can find no birth record or indeed his parents. >> He was born around the late 1780's, married Sarah PAYNE in 1808 in St >> James Pockthorpe Norwich. >> According to 1851 census he was a "Dyer". >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Regards to all >> Graham >>

On 2012/01/16 10:23, Graham wrote: > After 12 years of looking I am still stuck with my GGG grandfather Charles > BEEVOR. I can find no birth record or indeed his parents. He was born around > the late 1780's, married Sarah PAYNE in 1808 in St James Pockthorpe Norwich. > According to 1851 census he was a "Dyer". Terminology! You will be very unlikely to find a birth record. You should be able to locate a baptism/christening record which is evidence of the birth, but which may have happened some time after the actual birth. Unless you have a kindly clerk who recorded the birth date along with the baptism date, the date of birth is always likely to elude you. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Not really been following this thread but I have Bush ( connected with Whisker) from Dereham, but not researched up yet but caught my eye. As there are records for an Elizabeth Bush daughter of Jeremiah Bush at Wendling 1817 plus a baptism for an Elizabeth Bush 1771 daughter of Jonathan Bush maybe try Beeston/Wendling/Longham /Scarning for them in the hope Jeremiah might have been a family name. Rosie On 16/01/2012 11:44, Betty wrote: > Thank you so much Heather for looking Richard up on the passenger lists for > the Canton. I did know that they were both on the Canton but had not > looked up his name on the list Had not thought about finding out his > parents names from the passenger list I do know all information about his > wife Elizabeth nee BUSH - actually the other BUSH families are her mother > and siblings and her aunt and uncle and all their children. They were all > following Elizabeth's father, Jeremiah who was a convict. He had been > sentenced to death for stealing a sheep but fortunately his sentence was > commuted to life in the colonies He came to Australia in 1833. When he > was pardoned he lived with his wife and other children at Jerrawa Creek near > Yass where he was given land. His brother and his wife and children lived > nearby. Richard and Elizabeth and their 2 children went to the Hunter > Valley where they worked on George Wyndham;s estate. Have visited the > winery there and was told that it was in 1835 when their shiraz vineyard was > first planted. This was the year that Richard and Elizabeth arrived there. > Thank you once again for your help I greatly appreciate it. > Kind regards, > Betty Flood > > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Heather Macdonald > Sent: Monday, 16 January 2012 10:15 PM > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] howard > > > > Hi > > I notice from ancestry your Richard& Elizabeth came out on the Canton 8 Sep > 1835. He is listed as being b. Norfolk but she doesn't have anything for her > native place. I did notice there is also a couple BUSH families on the same > boat all born in Norfolk too...might be related. > > This record doesn't show parent names so not very helpful. > > Regards > > Heather Macdonald > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4745 - Release Date: 01/15/12 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much Rosemary Kind regards, Betty -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones Sent: Monday, 16 January 2012 11:57 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] MY BRICK WALL The images are online on FamilySearch. The BT's are a royal pain to browse because they are in year sequence, not parish. Here's a link ... https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.family search.org%2Frecords%2Fcollection%2F1823613%2Fwaypoints If this doesn't work go down to "Browse by Location" > Europe > then enter Norfolk in the search box. Rosemary On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Betty <familyflood@live.com> wrote: > Thank you so much for answering my query Rosemary. I have checked the > Parish registers and Archdeacons Transcripts but did not realise that > there > were Bishops transcripts as well Would I have to check through my family > history centre? > > Kind regards, > Betty > Sydney Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Rosemary Jones > Sent: Monday, 16 January 2012 10:57 AM > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] MY BRICK WALL > > Betty, > > Did you check the Archdeacons Transcripts and Bishops transcripts as well > as the parish registers? Sometimes the vicar just pulled a page out of the > parish register and sent it off to the archdeacon or bishop instead of > copying it out. I've found people in these that were missing from the > original register. > > Rosemary > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Betty <familyflood@live.com> wrote: > > > G'day > > > > > > > > Hope that some kind person can advise me as to how to break down my brick > > wall My gg grandfather, Richard HOWARD married Elizabeth BUSH in > > Great > > Fransham in 1835 and they then within that year sailed for Australia so > > cannot obtain Richard's birth place from any census (I already know all > > about Elizabeth's ancestors) > > > > > > > > My question is this - there was a family of HOWARD's, Robert & his > wife > > Sarah (nee POWLEY) living in Great Fransham since at least 1803 when > they > > were married there. I have found children born to them but cannot > find > > a Richard. I have a huge suspicion though that he was their son as > > Henry also came out to Australia and settled in Bega NSW as did Richard > and > > his son Thomas. Henry named one of his sons Richard and both Thomas > > and Richard also have children with same names. > > > > > > > > Richard's death certificate in Australia does not given me any > information > > either as to which town he was born in Norfolk. His first wife died in > > 1848 at Jerrawa Creek near Yass and he later remarried and died in Albury > > in > > 1877. His second wife apparently did not even know his childrens' > names > > let alone his place of birth. > > > > > > > > I suspect that he would have been born around 1815 > > > > > > > > I would be very grateful for any hints to find out if he was indeed > Robert > > & > > Sarah's son even though I have looked through the Parish Registers of > Great > > Fransham and Little Fransham and can't find any mention of him. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Betty Flood > > > > familyflood@live.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much for this information Veronica Will definitely follow it up Kind regards Betty -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Sent: Monday, 16 January 2012 11:34 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] My brickwall - HOWARD Hi Betty Have you had a look at the shipping record for Richard and Elizabeth? Sometimes it may state where they were from and even the parents details. Also, have you looked at the tree put together by the Monaro Pioneers Project? Shows Richard's parents as Thomas HOWARD and Sarah FILSTEAD, with Richard being born 3 April 1815. Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=monaropioneers&id= I150702 Familysearch.org shows the above Richard being baptised on the 9th of April 1815 at St Edmund's, Norwich, Norfolk to Thomas and Sarah HOWARD. Good luck with knocking down the brickwall. Veronica Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <familyflood@live.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:16 AM Subject: [NFK] MY BRICK WALL G'day Hope that some kind person can advise me as to how to break down my brick wall My gg grandfather, Richard HOWARD married Elizabeth BUSH in Great Fransham in 1835 and they then within that year sailed for Australia so cannot obtain Richard's birth place from any census (I already know all about Elizabeth's ancestors) My question is this - there was a family of HOWARD's, Robert & his wife Sarah (nee POWLEY) living in Great Fransham since at least 1803 when they were married there. I have found children born to them but cannot find a Richard. I have a huge suspicion though that he was their son as Henry also came out to Australia and settled in Bega NSW as did Richard and his son Thomas. Henry named one of his sons Richard and both Thomas and Richard also have children with same names. Richard's death certificate in Australia does not given me any information either as to which town he was born in Norfolk. His first wife died in 1848 at Jerrawa Creek near Yass and he later remarried and died in Albury in 1877. His second wife apparently did not even know his childrens' names let alone his place of birth. I suspect that he would have been born around 1815 I would be very grateful for any hints to find out if he was indeed Robert & Sarah's son even though I have looked through the Parish Registers of Great Fransham and Little Fransham and can't find any mention of him. Kind regards, Betty Flood familyflood@live.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much for answering my query Rosemary. I have checked the Parish registers and Archdeacons Transcripts but did not realise that there were Bishops transcripts as well Would I have to check through my family history centre? Kind regards, Betty Sydney Australia -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones Sent: Monday, 16 January 2012 10:57 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] MY BRICK WALL Betty, Did you check the Archdeacons Transcripts and Bishops transcripts as well as the parish registers? Sometimes the vicar just pulled a page out of the parish register and sent it off to the archdeacon or bishop instead of copying it out. I've found people in these that were missing from the original register. Rosemary On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Betty <familyflood@live.com> wrote: > G'day > > > > Hope that some kind person can advise me as to how to break down my brick > wall My gg grandfather, Richard HOWARD married Elizabeth BUSH in > Great > Fransham in 1835 and they then within that year sailed for Australia so > cannot obtain Richard's birth place from any census (I already know all > about Elizabeth's ancestors) > > > > My question is this - there was a family of HOWARD's, Robert & his wife > Sarah (nee POWLEY) living in Great Fransham since at least 1803 when they > were married there. I have found children born to them but cannot find > a Richard. I have a huge suspicion though that he was their son as > Henry also came out to Australia and settled in Bega NSW as did Richard and > his son Thomas. Henry named one of his sons Richard and both Thomas > and Richard also have children with same names. > > > > Richard's death certificate in Australia does not given me any information > either as to which town he was born in Norfolk. His first wife died in > 1848 at Jerrawa Creek near Yass and he later remarried and died in Albury > in > 1877. His second wife apparently did not even know his childrens' names > let alone his place of birth. > > > > I suspect that he would have been born around 1815 > > > > I would be very grateful for any hints to find out if he was indeed Robert > & > Sarah's son even though I have looked through the Parish Registers of Great > Fransham and Little Fransham and can't find any mention of him. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Betty Flood > > familyflood@live.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Betty Have you had a look at the shipping record for Richard and Elizabeth? Sometimes it may state where they were from and even the parents details. Also, have you looked at the tree put together by the Monaro Pioneers Project? Shows Richard's parents as Thomas HOWARD and Sarah FILSTEAD, with Richard being born 3 April 1815. Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=monaropioneers&id=I150702 Familysearch.org shows the above Richard being baptised on the 9th of April 1815 at St Edmund's, Norwich, Norfolk to Thomas and Sarah HOWARD. Good luck with knocking down the brickwall. Veronica Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <familyflood@live.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:16 AM Subject: [NFK] MY BRICK WALL G'day Hope that some kind person can advise me as to how to break down my brick wall My gg grandfather, Richard HOWARD married Elizabeth BUSH in Great Fransham in 1835 and they then within that year sailed for Australia so cannot obtain Richard's birth place from any census (I already know all about Elizabeth's ancestors) My question is this - there was a family of HOWARD's, Robert & his wife Sarah (nee POWLEY) living in Great Fransham since at least 1803 when they were married there. I have found children born to them but cannot find a Richard. I have a huge suspicion though that he was their son as Henry also came out to Australia and settled in Bega NSW as did Richard and his son Thomas. Henry named one of his sons Richard and both Thomas and Richard also have children with same names. Richard's death certificate in Australia does not given me any information either as to which town he was born in Norfolk. His first wife died in 1848 at Jerrawa Creek near Yass and he later remarried and died in Albury in 1877. His second wife apparently did not even know his childrens' names let alone his place of birth. I suspect that he would have been born around 1815 I would be very grateful for any hints to find out if he was indeed Robert & Sarah's son even though I have looked through the Parish Registers of Great Fransham and Little Fransham and can't find any mention of him. Kind regards, Betty Flood familyflood@live.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

I have a Beavor in our tree but in some instances it is spelt Be(a)voir. Sounds very posh!! Jan -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:10 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] BEEVOR Hi , I see them in the 1841 and 1851 in Fountains Yard , St Benedict .......in the 1841 Charles is 53 and in 1851 he is 60 so b c 1788 - 1791 . Y in the 1841 means he was born in the county of Norfolk , and the 1851 says he was born in Norwich . There are a number of ways to spell Beevor, Bever, Beever, Beavor , Beaver , and the v has at times been mistaken for an r ...... It may be another 12 years before you find him but he will be there , I wonder if he was connected to St John Maddermarket as a child of theirs was buried there in 1808 ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" <oldgarol@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: [NFK] Looking for help > > After 12 years of looking I am still stuck with my GGG grandfather Charles > BEEVOR. I can find no birth record or indeed his parents. > He was born around the late 1780's, married Sarah PAYNE in 1808 in St > James Pockthorpe Norwich. > According to 1851 census he was a "Dyer". > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards to all > Graham > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi , I see them in the 1841 and 1851 in Fountains Yard , St Benedict .......in the 1841 Charles is 53 and in 1851 he is 60 so b c 1788 - 1791 . Y in the 1841 means he was born in the county of Norfolk , and the 1851 says he was born in Norwich . There are a number of ways to spell Beevor, Bever, Beever, Beavor , Beaver , and the v has at times been mistaken for an r ...... It may be another 12 years before you find him but he will be there , I wonder if he was connected to St John Maddermarket as a child of theirs was buried there in 1808 ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" <oldgarol@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: [NFK] Looking for help > > After 12 years of looking I am still stuck with my GGG grandfather Charles > BEEVOR. I can find no birth record or indeed his parents. > He was born around the late 1780's, married Sarah PAYNE in 1808 in St > James Pockthorpe Norwich. > According to 1851 census he was a "Dyer". > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards to all > Graham > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am sorry but you will have to remind me again of the details of your Withams , I feel fairly certain there was a family tree on Ancestry for them but cannot now remember the names and dates . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Ream" <jmream@shaw.ca> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:26 PM Subject: [NFK] Witham, etc. > > Hi again, I have talked to my friend, Elizabeth Witham again and she > tells me that her main interest is in finding links to the Witham family. > So, don't worry about Woodhouse, but if you ever come across a stray > Witham, please let me know! > > Best wishes from a very snowy, extremely cold Alberta! > > Joyce. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Elizabeth, All I have on the Withams is; Alfred John Witham, born 1906/07/25 in Aylsham Norfolk His father was George Chales Witham, born 1902/08/06 in Buxton, Norfolk His father was George Charles Witham, with no details. Pretty vague isn't it? If there is a Tree, I would be delighted to hear what it contains Thanks, Joyce

G'day Hope that some kind person can advise me as to how to break down my brick wall My gg grandfather, Richard HOWARD married Elizabeth BUSH in Great Fransham in 1835 and they then within that year sailed for Australia so cannot obtain Richard's birth place from any census (I already know all about Elizabeth's ancestors) My question is this - there was a family of HOWARD's, Robert & his wife Sarah (nee POWLEY) living in Great Fransham since at least 1803 when they were married there. I have found children born to them but cannot find a Richard. I have a huge suspicion though that he was their son as Henry also came out to Australia and settled in Bega NSW as did Richard and his son Thomas. Henry named one of his sons Richard and both Thomas and Richard also have children with same names. Richard's death certificate in Australia does not given me any information either as to which town he was born in Norfolk. His first wife died in 1848 at Jerrawa Creek near Yass and he later remarried and died in Albury in 1877. His second wife apparently did not even know his childrens' names let alone his place of birth. I suspect that he would have been born around 1815 I would be very grateful for any hints to find out if he was indeed Robert & Sarah's son even though I have looked through the Parish Registers of Great Fransham and Little Fransham and can't find any mention of him. Kind regards, Betty Flood familyflood@live.com

Graham, There is a CHAS BEEVOR on the IGI baptised - 31 MAY 1776 Saint Giles, Norwich, Norfolk, England Could this be him? John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" <oldgarol@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: [NFK] Looking for help > > After 12 years of looking I am still stuck with my GGG grandfather Charles > BEEVOR. I can find no birth record or indeed his parents. > He was born around the late 1780's, married Sarah PAYNE in 1808 in St > James Pockthorpe Norwich. > According to 1851 census he was a "Dyer". > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards to all > Graham

The ATs all seem to finish at 1812. Did something change at that time? Also for Norfolk there is a search subdivision between Norwich and Norfolk Dioceses. I am not certain which parish was in which but I do know that a diocese did not necessarily stop at the County boundary. I know the Norwich Diocese went into NE Suffolk and I'm pretty certain there were similar situations on the border with Cambridgeshire. Further, and this is a personal opinion, I trust the ATs and BTs less than the PRs. I think as Rosemary intimated that all Vicars did not approach the essentially duplication of the PR entries with a deal of enthusiasm! There are beautifully written ones, less beautiful on assorted pieces of paper and what appear to be PR pages (were these the original entries one wonders) Of course they were usually prepared in dark,cold and often damp churches using a quill pen. I doubt if I would be too enthusiastic in those circumstances! Dave On 15/01/2012 7:56 PM, Rosemary Jones wrote: > The images are online on FamilySearch. The BT's are a royal pain to browse > because they are in year sequence, not parish. Here's a link ... > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fcollection%2F1823613%2Fwaypoints > > If this doesn't work go down to "Browse by Location"> Europe> then enter > Norfolk in the search box. > > Rosemary > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Betty<familyflood@live.com> wrote: > >> Thank you so much for answering my query Rosemary. I have checked the >> Parish registers and Archdeacons Transcripts but did not realise that >> there >> were Bishops transcripts as well Would I have to check through my family >> history centre? >> >> Kind regards, >> Betty >> Sydney Australia >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >> Behalf Of Rosemary Jones >> Sent: Monday, 16 January 2012 10:57 AM >> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NFK] MY BRICK WALL >> >> Betty, >> >> Did you check the Archdeacons Transcripts and Bishops transcripts as well >> as the parish registers? Sometimes the vicar just pulled a page out of the >> parish register and sent it off to the archdeacon or bishop instead of >> copying it out. I've found people in these that were missing from the >> original register. >> >> Rosemary >> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Betty<familyflood@live.com> wrote: >> >>> G'day >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope that some kind person can advise me as to how to break down my brick >>> wall My gg grandfather, Richard HOWARD married Elizabeth BUSH in >>> Great >>> Fransham in 1835 and they then within that year sailed for Australia so >>> cannot obtain Richard's birth place from any census (I already know all >>> about Elizabeth's ancestors) >>> >>> >>> >>> My question is this - there was a family of HOWARD's, Robert& his >> wife >>> Sarah (nee POWLEY) living in Great Fransham since at least 1803 when >> they >>> were married there. I have found children born to them but cannot >> find >>> a Richard. I have a huge suspicion though that he was their son as >>> Henry also came out to Australia and settled in Bega NSW as did Richard >> and >>> his son Thomas. Henry named one of his sons Richard and both Thomas >>> and Richard also have children with same names. >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard's death certificate in Australia does not given me any >> information >>> either as to which town he was born in Norfolk. His first wife died in >>> 1848 at Jerrawa Creek near Yass and he later remarried and died in Albury >>> in >>> 1877. His second wife apparently did not even know his childrens' >> names >>> let alone his place of birth. >>> >>> >>> >>> I suspect that he would have been born around 1815 >>> >>> >>> >>> I would be very grateful for any hints to find out if he was indeed >> Robert >>> & >>> Sarah's son even though I have looked through the Parish Registers of >> Great >>> Fransham and Little Fransham and can't find any mention of him. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Betty Flood >>> >>> familyflood@live.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

After 12 years of looking I am still stuck with my GGG grandfather Charles BEEVOR. I can find no birth record or indeed his parents. He was born around the late 1780's, married Sarah PAYNE in 1808 in St James Pockthorpe Norwich. According to 1851 census he was a "Dyer". Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards to all Graham

Was Elizabeth BUSH's family from Great Fransham, Betty? If so, that may explain why the couple married there (not because it was Richard's parish). On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Betty <familyflood@live.com> wrote: > G'day > > > > Hope that some kind person can advise me as to how to break down my brick > wall      My gg grandfather, Richard HOWARD  married Elizabeth BUSH in Great > Fransham in 1835 and they then within that year sailed for Australia so > cannot obtain Richard's birth place from any census (I already know all > about Elizabeth's ancestors) > > > > My question is this   - there was a family of HOWARD's,  Robert & his wife > Sarah (nee POWLEY)  living in Great Fransham since at least 1803 when they > were married there.      I have found children born to them but cannot find > a Richard.      I have a huge suspicion though that he was their son as > Henry also came out to Australia and settled in Bega NSW as did Richard and > his son Thomas.       Henry named one of his sons Richard and both Thomas > and Richard also have children with same names. > > > > Richard's death certificate in Australia does not given me any information > either as to which town he was born in Norfolk.    His first wife died in > 1848 at Jerrawa Creek near Yass and he later remarried and died in Albury in > 1877.    His second wife apparently did not even know his childrens' names > let alone his place of birth. > > > > I suspect that he would have been born around 1815 > > > > I would be very grateful for any hints to find out if he was indeed Robert & > Sarah's son even though I have looked through the Parish Registers of Great > Fransham and Little Fransham and can't find any mention of him. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Betty Flood > > familyflood@live.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2012/01/16 00:25, Rosemary Jones wrote: > Do they live in Kings Lynn, St Margaret, Kings Lynn St Margaret, or St > Margaret Kings Lynn? > > I run into this minor problem in most of the major towns and cities and am > trying to be consistent. UK locations generally run from the smallest unit to the largest, left to right. Thus, St Margaret being the parish, is smaller than the town, Kings Lynn which is smaller than the county, Norfolk etc. So, to me it should be St Margaret, Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg