William may not have had a middle name when born, but could have just made up a middle name (ie John because he liked that name) and went by that so the person filling out the death information would have put down that name also. My husband's father in law was always Jake to me and only when he died did I find out his name was really John. It never hurts to look at all possible names. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wenn via" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:23:19 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] In Reply To: William Thompson Thanks for that David, unfortunately my WILLIAM THOMPSON had no middle name !!!!! Thanks again. Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Aug 2014, at 16:17, David Scott via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Richard, > There are a lot of William Thompsons dying in Norfolk between 1915 and 1933. But below is the nearest in age I could find on Free BMD:- > Thompson William J 81 Norwich. 4b 194. > > David Scott. > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Wenn via - Email Address: [email protected] > Sent On: 14/08/2014 15:44 > Sent To: [email protected] - Email Address: [email protected] > subject: [NFK] William Thompson > > Hi All, > I am trying to trace the death of my wives 2 x Gt grandfather William Thompson (b1851-52 in London). >> From before 1901 he had a shop (and was living) at 120 Oak Street, Norwich. Kellys Directory for 1916 had him still living there, but in the next Kellys that I have checked (1933) he had gone. Can anyone please guide me as to how and where I should look next..... I have listed his family below... > > WILLIAM THOMPSON (b.1851-52 in LONDON) > ELIZABETH ANN THOMPSON (nee GREEN) (b1851-52 STOKE FERRY,NORFOLK) > ALBERT THOMPSON (b.1879 in NORWICH) > EDITH ALICE THOMPSON (b.1881 in LONDON) > JOHN THOMPSON (b1885 in LONDON) > WILLIAM JUBILEE THOMPSON (b.1888 in NORWICH) > MAY THOMPSON (b.1894 in NORWICH) > > I have traced his whereabouts through the census returns, but am unable to find a definite death date. Would looking through the electoral role help ? ANY help will very gratefully be received. > > Thanks > > > Richard Wenn > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3955/7532 - Release Date: 08/14/14 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Ned -----Original Message----- From: Ned Ramm [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NFK] DNA for the royal Windsor family of England Remember that Windsor is the surname borne by the monarch and family for the last century or so - they aren't descended from a male surnamed Windsor. The elder ones are really called Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and the younger ones are really called Battenberg (or Mountbatten) They also don't come from Norfolk! Ned

Remember that Windsor is the surname borne by the monarch and family for the last century or so - they aren't descended from a male surnamed Windsor. The elder ones are really called Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and the younger ones are really called Battenberg (or Mountbatten) They also don't come from Norfolk! Ned

The family adopted the surname in 1917 as, their real surname wasn't very "British" and, as we were at war with Germany, they decided to change it to associate the family to their locality. If anyone is related to the Windsor family, I suggest they look at the family history from themselves and work backwards. If they find a connection to the name prior to 1917, they are not likely to be related to the Her Majesty The Queen. Glynn Owner of: http://www.norfolk-tours.co.uk

There are extremely strict privacy rules regarding DNA results. Only the individual concerned (I.e. The "owner" of the DNA) can grant permission for it to be shared - unless it's part of a criminal investigation! There is no way to acquire anyone's DNA. Ruth Sent from my iPad > On 11 Aug 2014, at 01:44, "Jack Morter via" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Have a friend who is researching a ancestor who could be related to the > Windsor family, Does anyone where they could go to acquire > > a male DNA of the ruling Family? > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have a friend who is researching a ancestor who could be related to the Windsor family, Does anyone where they could go to acquire a male DNA of the ruling Family? Thank you

Thanks to the answers about the records for St Paul. I appreciate your time. Kimberley

Many thanks for your thoughts Lesley but I think "my" Amelia was in the Gressenhall Workhouse in 1871 aged 6 so born well before 1872. However, until things are proved I will keep your "long short" in mind. Thanks again Derek ________________________________ From: Lesley via <[email protected]> To: elizabeth howard <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 8 August 2014, 15:46 Subject: Re: [NFK] Amelia MARSH / MASH This could be a long shot but worth considering: Henry Marsh/Mash daughter Elizabeth had an illegitimate daughter Anne born 29 March 1851 baptised at Swanton Morley 27 April 1851. Anne married William Isbill on 25 December at St Nicholas East Dereham They had a daughter Amelia Elizabeth Isbill born Sep Qtr 1872 East Dereham as per Free Reg and 1881 Census Wonder if this is the connection? Lesley

Thank you so much Elizabeth for the time and effort you must have put into research for me.  It is very much appreciated.  According to William's will the beneficiaries were ..........."my three children, Charles Mash, Elizabeth Mash and Amelia Mash".  This is one elusive family . In particular the two daughters and wife (if William was married!) According to Charles' birth certificate his mother was a Jane MASH nee Steptoe..........a very elusive woman!  I may have found her living in Stepney and Chelsea at various times but never with children and difficult to prove. As a matter of interest Charles was born in Stepney not Hoe as per the 1871 census. I shall keep searching ! Thanks again Derek ________________________________ From: elizabeth howard <[email protected]> To: Derek <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Friday, 8 August 2014, 14:58 Subject: [NFK] Amelia MARSH / MASH               Hi,  On Freereg there is a bapt of a William Marsh, at Hoe, 18th March 1827, son of Henry and Susanna Marsh, ( nee Bailey)  labourer.. Freereg also has a marriage of Henry Marsh , bachelor, of East Dereham , and Susannah Bailey, spinster, at Hoe, on 24th July 1825.  All parties signed by mark,  and the witnesses were William Kirk and Mary Butters.  There are a further 3 bapts of Henry and Susannah`s children at Hoe, Mary Ann, Sept 1825, Charles David, March 1829 , and Eliza, Jan 1834.  Also there is a John Marsh, bapt St Nicholas E Dereham in Dec 1829 to Charles and Mary Marsh , nee Fenn, labourer.               In the 1841 census for E Dereham , Henry and Susanna , both 35, Y, with Charles 10, Elizabeth, 9 , Mary Ann, 5, George, 3, and Robert ,1, are living at North Green .  one door further on is Charles Marsh, 35, ag lab, Y, Mary , 30, John, 10, Sarah ,9 , Eliza, 7, Mary Ann, 5, Barna ( I think) 3, James, 14 months.               In the 1891 census for Swanton Morley ,, at Greengate Rd, is Charles Marsh, 62, ag lab, b Hoe, with Ann, wife, 59, b Brisley, Charles , 24, ag lab, b SM , Richard, 20, ag lab, b SM , Harriett, 18, housemaid, b SM , George, 15, ag lab, b SM.  and William Marsh, brother , single, 64, living on own means born Hoe.               I am not sure where that leaves the will of William d aged 64 in 1891 at Swanton Morley .......if its the same man as the unmarried brother , then perhaps he left his estate to his nephews and nieces  ?               There is on the 1881 census a family in Theatre St East Dereham, of James Fenn , head, marr, 56, groom, born Hoe, wife Ann, 41 char woman b Tilney, and their children Amelia Fenn, 15, scholar, b E Dereham, Jane , 10 , b E D .                 I cannot find a birth of an Amelia Marsh in Freebmd, between 1864 and 1868.  but there is an Amelia Fenn born in the March 1/4 of 1866 Mitford being the registration district..  I cannot find a marriage for James Fenn and Ann ? around 1865 but there is a marriage for James William Fenn in Walsingham district in the Dec of 1861 and a perhaps wife Anna Maria Chastney ........the only other James Fenn marriage is in the Downham registration district in Sept 1/4 1866, but the possible wives are Caroline and Eliza . so not sure this is the one.    Marsh is not an unusual name so maybe there is more than one William ?

Hi Jean You might also try the batch numbers website............. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyNorfolk.htm#N There are some records from St Pauls but not a lot! Good luck Derek ________________________________ From: Jean Greenwood via <[email protected]> To: KIM QUILTS <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Friday, 8 August 2014, 15:49 Subject: Re: [NFK] St Paul records Hi Kim Only copies of the ATs are online - see https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Norwich_St_Paul,_Norfolk Scroll down and there is a link  - also one to IGI. Cheers Jean On 8 August 2014 16:00, KIM QUILTS via <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings, > I am trying to find the records for St Paul in Norwich on family search > and am unable to. > Can anyone help? > Thanks > Kimberley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello David, pardon my ignorance, but where is the Norfolk archive centre in London please? Diane On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM, CULLINGFORD DAVID via <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry Kimberley but they are not on familysearch? Many of the early > registers were destroyed by German bombing during ww2. There are > transcripts at the Norfolk archive centre in London and also familysearch > does have the bishop's transcripts. > What you might like to know is that the transcripts have been put on the > freereg database at www.freereg.org. > > Regards > > David > > > On 8 August 2014 16:00, KIM QUILTS via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Greetings, > > I am trying to find the records for St Paul in Norwich on family search > > and am unable to. > > Can anyone help? > > Thanks > > Kimberley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Kim Only copies of the ATs are online - see https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Norwich_St_Paul,_Norfolk Scroll down and there is a link - also one to IGI. Cheers Jean On 8 August 2014 16:00, KIM QUILTS via <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings, > I am trying to find the records for St Paul in Norwich on family search > and am unable to. > Can anyone help? > Thanks > Kimberley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry Kimberley but they are not on familysearch? Many of the early registers were destroyed by German bombing during ww2. There are transcripts at the Norfolk archive centre in London and also familysearch does have the bishop's transcripts. What you might like to know is that the transcripts have been put on the freereg database at www.freereg.org. Regards David On 8 August 2014 16:00, KIM QUILTS via <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings, > I am trying to find the records for St Paul in Norwich on family search > and am unable to. > Can anyone help? > Thanks > Kimberley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This could be a long shot but worth considering: Henry Marsh/Mash daughter Elizabeth had an illegitimate daughter Anne born 29 March 1851 baptised at Swanton Morley 27 April 1851. Anne married William Isbill on 25 December at St Nicholas East Dereham They had a daughter Amelia Elizabeth Isbill born Sep Qtr 1872 East Dereham as per Free Reg and 1881 Census Wonder if this is the connection? Lesley Researching in Norfolk: ALLCOCK/ALCOCK: Beetley, Tittleshall, Longham, Gressenhall, East Dereham,Docking, Syderstone, Tattersett ATMORE: North Elmham, Beetley, Gressenhall AYERS: Hoe, Swanton Morley, Wending and area BLOY: Tittleshall and surrounding area BOYCE: Gressenhall, East Dereham BRIDGES: Beeston & migratory areas BUNTING: Robert Bunting b 1795 of Beeston - Stanfield BUTTERS: Hoe, Gressenhall and Bintree CASON: Longham; Wendling & surrounding areas CLAXTON: Beeston & migrating areas COE: Bradenham, Beetley, Gressenhall COPLING/COPPEN etc: Gressenhall, Beetley, North Elmham CROWN: Beetley, Gressenhall and areas DAYNES: Garvestone>Surrey DODMAN: Gressenhall, Barney, West Norfolk EKE: E Dereham & surrounding area ELLIOTT: North Tuddenham, Hockering, Mattishall, East Dereham FELLOWES: Scarning, Beetley FREEZER/FRAZER: Beetley, Gressenhall, Syderstone, Holkham, Barshams Anmer,Beeston, Mileham & Worldwide HARMAN: Beetley, Gressenhall, Longham HARMER: Salhouse, Norwich HARRIS: East Dereham HEAD: East Dereham HERRING: Sedgeford HOOKE(S): Syderstone and surrounding areas ISBELL/ISBILL: Hoe, Yaxham, Elsing and surrounding areas JARRETT: Gressenhall, Swanton Morley JOHNSON: Houghton near Harpley, West Rudham KILLENGREY and Variants: Stoke Ferry>Longham KIRK: Hoe, Beetley & Gressenhall, East Dereham LACK: Syderstone & surrounding areas LAND: Wells, Beetley and Gressenhall LANGLEY: Syderstone, Docking and surrounding areas MAYES: E Dereham, Swanton Morley, Gressenhall MILLICAN: Gt Yarmouth,& E Dereham MURRELL: Scarning NAILOR/NAYLOR: Bawdeswell, Billingford, Gressenhall, Elsing NEWSTEAD: Blofield, Yaxham, Mattishall Burgh PARSLEY: Blofield, Yaxham PAYNE: Wendling, Gressenhall and surrounds PHILLIPO/FLUPOT: Litcham, Longham PRESTON: Longham PURPLE: Longham, ALL RAMM: Houghton RAPER: Kings Lynn >East Dereham RAYNER: Wendling, Longham SPOONER: Gressenhall, North Elmham SYMONDS: Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall TEBBLE: All THOMPSON: Longham TROLLOPE: Wiggenhall St Germans, Syderstone, Scarning, Swanton Morley TWIGG: Beetley, Gressenhall and Mitford area and migrating of Islington TYE: Beetley, Gressenhall, Hoe, East Bilney WATKINS: Swanton Morley WEBSDALE: All WHEALS/WHALES: All WINTER: 1568 of Carbrook, North Elmham, Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall On 08/08/2014 15:58, "elizabeth howard via" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, On Freereg there is a bapt of a William Marsh, at >Hoe, >18th March 1827, son of Henry and Susanna Marsh, ( nee Bailey) >labourer.. >Freereg also has a marriage of Henry Marsh , bachelor, of East Dereham , >and >Susannah Bailey, spinster, at Hoe, on 24th July 1825. All parties >signed >by mark, and the witnesses were William Kirk and Mary Butters. There >are >a further 3 bapts of Henry and Susannah`s children at Hoe, Mary Ann, Sept >1825, Charles David, March 1829 , and Eliza, Jan 1834. Also there is a >John Marsh, bapt St Nicholas E Dereham in Dec 1829 to Charles and Mary >Marsh >, nee Fenn, labourer. > In the 1841 census for E Dereham , Henry and Susanna , >both >35, Y, with Charles 10, Elizabeth, 9 , Mary Ann, 5, George, 3, and Robert >,1, are living at North Green . one door further on is Charles Marsh, >35, >ag lab, Y, Mary , 30, John, 10, Sarah ,9 , Eliza, 7, Mary Ann, 5, Barna ( >I >think) 3, James, 14 months. > In the 1891 census for Swanton Morley ,, at Greengate Rd, >is >Charles Marsh, 62, ag lab, b Hoe, with Ann, wife, 59, b Brisley, Charles >, >24, ag lab, b SM , Richard, 20, ag lab, b SM , Harriett, 18, housemaid, b >SM >, George, 15, ag lab, b SM. and William Marsh, brother , single, 64, >living >on own means born Hoe. > I am not sure where that leaves the will of William d >aged >64 in 1891 at Swanton Morley .......if its the same man as the unmarried >brother , then perhaps he left his estate to his nephews and nieces ? > There is on the 1881 census a family in Theatre St East >Dereham, of James Fenn , head, marr, 56, groom, born Hoe, wife Ann, 41 >char >woman b Tilney, and their children Amelia Fenn, 15, scholar, b E Dereham, >Jane , 10 , b E D . > I cannot find a birth of an Amelia Marsh in Freebmd, >between 1864 and 1868. but there is an Amelia Fenn born in the March 1/4 >of >1866 Mitford being the registration district.. I cannot find a marriage >for James Fenn and Ann ? around 1865 but there is a marriage for James >William Fenn in Walsingham district in the Dec of 1861 and a perhaps wife >Anna Maria Chastney ........the only other James Fenn marriage is in the >Downham registration district in Sept 1/4 1866, but the possible wives >are >Caroline and Eliza . so not sure this is the one. Marsh is not an >unusual >name so maybe there is more than one William ? > > > > > >life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Derek via" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:25 PM >Subject: [NFK] Amelia MARSH / MASH > > >Good evening Listers > >After many years of searching for info on my great grandfather, William >MARSH / MASH, I now have in my possession a copy of his Will. >William died 12th June 1891 at Swanton Morley aged 64 years. > >William left his estate to his 3 children, Charles, Elizabeth and Amelia. >Charles was my grandfather and I have found Elizabeth on the 1871 census >living with an aunt.. However, Amelia is a name that has never surfaced >before. > >I have now found Charles and Amelia living as "inmates" at the Mitford >and >Launditch Union in the 1871 census. >I can find no other reference to Amelia........ what happened to >her.............. did she marry........... when did she die? > >I will make a trip to the Norfolk RO asap but in the meantime wondered if >anyone knew anything about this family. > >many thanks > >Derek > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again If you later found her as Maud Agnes, it does suggest she didn't like Adelaide perhaps, if its a one of record as Agnes it could simply be an error But from the details you give it does suggest the one I posted is indeed her I did look to see if Griston is on familysearch in the Norfolk records but couldn't see it, Watton where James was born is there so it would be worth checking those if you haven't done so already As I said previously, you can order a copy of the source document for any record found on familysearch, there is a limit of five per month but a great resource Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/08/2014 16:18, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Nivard, > > Originally, we thought her name was Maud Agnes, but when the record for > Maude Adelaide appeared with the correct parents, I thought perhaps this was > actually her! > > Parents: F - James Taylor > M - Rose (or Rosa) Barnes > Siblings: Horace James - B 1880 - Griston, Norfolk > Alice Maud - B 1882 - Griston, Nrfolk > Florence Mabel - B 1888 - Griston, Norfolk > Ethel M - B 1895 - Griston, Norfolk > Maud (my ggrandmother) married A. Simmons in Horsham, Suffolk in 1913 and > then immigrated to Canada, where she died in 1921 from Scarlett Fever & > Child Birth. > > I have not been able to locate a birth record or baptism/christening for my > Maud, but she does appear on 1891 England census, living with her parents & > siblings in Sproule with Palgrave, Norfolk. > > Thanks, > > Jennifer R. Burrell

Further to my last Do the following details tally with your young lady ? She was a servant in 1901 & 1911 1891 England Census about Maud A Taylor Name: Maud A Taylor Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Taylor Mother's name: Rose Taylor Gender: Female Where born: Griston, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Sporle with Palgrave Ecclesiastical parish: Sporle with Palgrave Town: Sporle with Palgrave County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Swaffham Sub-registration district: Swaffham ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1575 Folio: 53 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age James Taylor 41 Blacksmith Rose Taylor 40 Horace J Taylor 10 Alice M Taylor 8 Maud A Taylor 6 Florence M Taylor 2 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1575; Folio: 53; Page: 9; GSU Roll: 6096685. =============== 1901 England Census about Maud Taylor Name: Maud Taylor Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Griston, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Beechamwell Ecclesiastical parish: Beechamwell St Mary County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Swaffham Sub-registration district: Swaffham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1896 Folio: 26 Page Number: 7 Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Name Age Cleston B Mason 63 Laura Mason 32 Edith Crisp 21 Edith Scarf 18 Maud Taylor 16 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1896; Folio: 26; Page: 7. ================ 1911 England Census about Maud Taylor Name: Maud Taylor Age in 1911: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Griston, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Bracon Ash and Hethel County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: Bracon Hall Norwich Marital Status: Single Occupation: Housemaid Registration district: Henstead Registration District Number: 227 Sub-registration district: Humbleyard ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 11354 Household Members: Name Age George Berney 45 Matilda Berney 72 Horace Davey 24 Maud Taylor 25 Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 11354. ============= Maudes parents are still around in 1911 at Sporle with Palgrave Norfolk James 59 Blacksmith Watton Norfolk Rose 58 married 31 years 5 children all surviving in 1911 with them Florence 22 & Ethel 16 Forgot to mention that you may find the baptism yourself in the Norfolk records collection on familysearch Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/08/2014 15:38, jennifer via wrote: > Hello, > > I was hoping someone would be able to help me with determining if this is > indeed my great grandmother. >

I'm not sure what you're trying to determine Jennifer. The 2 sets of details you give are from the same source! You can find the birth on Freebmd (June qtr 1885) and Maude appears in 1891 living with parents James & Rosa. In 1901 and 1911 she is a servant, still in Griston, Norfolk. How that proves she's your grandmother I couldn't say. John On 08/08/2014 15:38, jennifer via wrote: > Hello, > > I was hoping someone would be able to help me with determining if this is > indeed my great grandmother. > > On the LDS (familysearch.org) website they have the following listing: > > Maude Adelaide Taylor > Gender: Female > Christening Date: 30 Mar 1885 > Christening Place: Griston, Norfolk, England > Father's Name: James Taylor > Mother's Name: Rosa Taylor > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03903-5 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS > Film number: 1526622 , Reference ID: item 4 p 59 > > and on ancestry.ca is the following: > > Name: Maude Adelaide Taylor > Gender: Female > Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1885 > Baptism Place: Griston, Norfolk, England > Father: James Taylor > Mother: Rosa Taylor > FHL Film Number: 1526622 > Reference ID: item 4 p 59 > > But when I try to confirm if this is the correct person, no more information > is available. I contacted LDS for clarification, but they came back with no > further information, and in fact said the record they have (which I have > listed above is actually for Suffolk) > > Any help in clarifying this would be greatly appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Jennifer R. Burrell > Print Media Consulting > 2040 Broadleaf Cres., > Burlington, ON > L7L 6S4 > Tel: 905-331-0564 > Cell:289-838-4626 > Fax: 905-331-1431 > Email: [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, On Freereg there is a bapt of a William Marsh, at Hoe, 18th March 1827, son of Henry and Susanna Marsh, ( nee Bailey) labourer.. Freereg also has a marriage of Henry Marsh , bachelor, of East Dereham , and Susannah Bailey, spinster, at Hoe, on 24th July 1825. All parties signed by mark, and the witnesses were William Kirk and Mary Butters. There are a further 3 bapts of Henry and Susannah`s children at Hoe, Mary Ann, Sept 1825, Charles David, March 1829 , and Eliza, Jan 1834. Also there is a John Marsh, bapt St Nicholas E Dereham in Dec 1829 to Charles and Mary Marsh , nee Fenn, labourer. In the 1841 census for E Dereham , Henry and Susanna , both 35, Y, with Charles 10, Elizabeth, 9 , Mary Ann, 5, George, 3, and Robert ,1, are living at North Green . one door further on is Charles Marsh, 35, ag lab, Y, Mary , 30, John, 10, Sarah ,9 , Eliza, 7, Mary Ann, 5, Barna ( I think) 3, James, 14 months. In the 1891 census for Swanton Morley ,, at Greengate Rd, is Charles Marsh, 62, ag lab, b Hoe, with Ann, wife, 59, b Brisley, Charles , 24, ag lab, b SM , Richard, 20, ag lab, b SM , Harriett, 18, housemaid, b SM , George, 15, ag lab, b SM. and William Marsh, brother , single, 64, living on own means born Hoe. I am not sure where that leaves the will of William d aged 64 in 1891 at Swanton Morley .......if its the same man as the unmarried brother , then perhaps he left his estate to his nephews and nieces ? There is on the 1881 census a family in Theatre St East Dereham, of James Fenn , head, marr, 56, groom, born Hoe, wife Ann, 41 char woman b Tilney, and their children Amelia Fenn, 15, scholar, b E Dereham, Jane , 10 , b E D . I cannot find a birth of an Amelia Marsh in Freebmd, between 1864 and 1868. but there is an Amelia Fenn born in the March 1/4 of 1866 Mitford being the registration district.. I cannot find a marriage for James Fenn and Ann ? around 1865 but there is a marriage for James William Fenn in Walsingham district in the Dec of 1861 and a perhaps wife Anna Maria Chastney ........the only other James Fenn marriage is in the Downham registration district in Sept 1/4 1866, but the possible wives are Caroline and Eliza . so not sure this is the one. Marsh is not an unusual name so maybe there is more than one William ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:25 PM Subject: [NFK] Amelia MARSH / MASH Good evening Listers After many years of searching for info on my great grandfather, William MARSH / MASH, I now have in my possession a copy of his Will. William died 12th June 1891 at Swanton Morley aged 64 years. William left his estate to his 3 children, Charles, Elizabeth and Amelia. Charles was my grandfather and I have found Elizabeth on the 1871 census living with an aunt.. However, Amelia is a name that has never surfaced before. I have now found Charles and Amelia living as "inmates" at the Mitford and Launditch Union in the 1871 census. I can find no other reference to Amelia........ what happened to her.............. did she marry........... when did she die? I will make a trip to the Norfolk RO asap but in the meantime wondered if anyone knew anything about this family. many thanks Derek ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jennifer The entry on Ancestry is from familysearch, its not a different record If your lady was named Maude Adelaide TAYLOR and was born 1885 in Norfolk, then yes its likely to be her but you need to give more information to enable us to determine that Do you know her parents? Birthplace etc If the baptism looks correct, you can order a copy direct from the LDS (its free) it will hopefully tell you a home address and fathers occupation, it may only give a village for their abode and will not give the mothers maiden name To get more you would need to purchase the birth cert for her England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Maud Adelaide Taylor Name: Maud Adelaide Taylor Registration Year: 1885 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Wayland Inferred County: Norfolk Volume: 4b Page: 283 You can order online here <http://www.gro.gov.uk/GRO/content/certificates/default.asp> Details needed are above Tick the box with GRO index reference Its £9.25 post paid anywhere But first you may want to repost to make sure its the right person before you order There may be some confusion with the LDS, some batches cover more than one place, as the birth was registered in Norfolk I suspect the baptism was also Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/08/2014 15:38, jennifer via wrote: > Hello, > > I was hoping someone would be able to help me with determining if this is > indeed my great grandmother. > > On the LDS (familysearch.org) website they have the following listing: > > Maude Adelaide Taylor > Gender: Female > Christening Date: 30 Mar 1885 > Christening Place: Griston, Norfolk, England > Father's Name: James Taylor > Mother's Name: Rosa Taylor > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03903-5 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS > Film number: 1526622 , Reference ID: item 4 p 59 > > and on ancestry.ca is the following: > > Name: Maude Adelaide Taylor > Gender: Female > Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1885 > Baptism Place: Griston, Norfolk, England > Father: James Taylor > Mother: Rosa Taylor > FHL Film Number: 1526622 > Reference ID: item 4 p 59 > > But when I try to confirm if this is the correct person, no more information > is available. I contacted LDS for clarification, but they came back with no > further information, and in fact said the record they have (which I have > listed above is actually for Suffolk) > > Any help in clarifying this would be greatly appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Jennifer R. Burrell

Hi Jennifer The death you seem to be referring to in November 1921 is for a Maud Simons who died of Scarlet Fever and Cardiac failure in Toronto. She is the wife of Arthur Simons of 20 Blewins Place, Toronto. She was born in Norfolk on the 29th of February 1992 and has been in Canada for 10 years (1911). She would only have been 19 years old at that time. This does not really fit the information that Maud married Allen H Simmons in 1913 (FreeBMD). You should try to find your grandparent living with your great-grandparents in the 1921 Canadian census to get the ages of the great-grandparents. I presume that you have the birth of your grandparent (from Ancestry) that gives the names of your great-grandparents and that you have looked for that grandparent's siblings. Good luck, Helen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: August-08-14 11:18 AM To: 'Nivard Ovington'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NFK] Taylor Hi Nivard, Originally, we thought her name was Maud Agnes, but when the record for Maude Adelaide appeared with the correct parents, I thought perhaps this was actually her! Parents: F - James Taylor M - Rose (or Rosa) Barnes Siblings: Horace James - B 1880 - Griston, Norfolk Alice Maud - B 1882 - Griston, Nrfolk Florence Mabel - B 1888 - Griston, Norfolk Ethel M - B 1895 - Griston, Norfolk Maud (my ggrandmother) married A. Simmons in Horsham, Suffolk in 1913 and then immigrated to Canada, where she died in 1921 from Scarlett Fever & Child Birth. I have not been able to locate a birth record or baptism/christening for my Maud, but she does appear on 1891 England census, living with her parents & siblings in Sproule with Palgrave, Norfolk. Thanks,