Your wisdom please on this . Last time I looked the PRs for Gayton Grimston and Gayton Thorpe were not available on Family Search but are available at the record office. Does anyone know why these parishes are not on FS or if they are on the site but there is an error in how they are indexed? Second question is, I see the website The Geneaologist has transcripts of parts of some of these records for sale, added July 2015. Does anyone have experience of the quality of their work? TIA Rosie.

I remember hunting for Grimston PR's but can't recall whether I found them on the AT's or BT's. Rosemary On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Keith Drage via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I do wish all these sites would identify the source of their records, > and whether they are transcripts (and if so who created the transcript), > or the original record. > > What The Genealogist does tell you is a range of dates and that these > are marriages only. If you compare that with the list on GENUKI for > Phillimore at > > http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/norfolk/church/phillimore.shtml > > where they are the same, leads me to the suspicion that these are just > the contents of the published Phillimore marriages for Norfolk, which > are available from many other sources. If so the Phillimore marriages > are only an abbreviated transcript, and do not for example list witnesses. > > Note that at least 3 volumes of Phillimore marriages are available > online (see the above webpage), although obviously they may not have > indexes as a result. There may be more since this page was last updated > so it is worth an online search. > > Both parishes appear in Boyds marriage index from the Society of > genealogists (up to 1837), so you can search this either directly at the > Society of Genealogists website (if a member) or on Findmypast. They > also should appear on the Norfolk Marriages CD (1801 - 1837) from NFHS. > For completeness, neither parish is on NORs. > > As regards Family Search, these are in my understanding just the Norfolk > microfilms that LDS created on behalf of the Norfolk Record Office, and > as such they have not performed all that work, nor any of the recent > work. Further constraints exist in that permission may not have been > granted by the parish incumbent at the time for LDS to do this work. So > the fact that the Norfolk Record Office may list a microfilm on their > list of parish records, does not mean that the LDS has it. To a certain > extent you can audit this yourself: > - NROCAT will tell you whether NRO have the registers and whether they > have been microfilmed (and give you the NRO call numbers). > - on Family Search if you Search Catalog (rather than Records) you can > find out what is in the LDS library, and the entries will conveniently > cross reference the NRO call numbers. > - as I say, any microfilms (for Norfolk) so listed should be on the > Family Search website and if they are not, then the LDS may be able to > do something about it. > > Further the NRO list identifies that Grimston incumbents have not given > permission for the Microfilm to be available beyond 1712. > > I have looked at Gayton Thorpe registers in the past. It was a long time > ago. From the NRO list you will see there are large gaps - I think > partly that might be because some of the records appear in, or with, the > East Walton registers, but someone else will need to confirm, or correct > me on this, because it is so long ago I cannot remember. The NROCAT > record is a bit confusing on this. > > Note that Freereg does have entries for both these parishes but you need > to check the range of dates covered (if you have not done so already) - > you have not specified the dates you are interested in. > > > > regards > > Keith Drage > Swindon UK > > On 18/12/2015 13:53, xpn11 via wrote: > > Your wisdom please on this . Last time I looked the PRs for Gayton > > Grimston and Gayton Thorpe were not available on Family Search but are > > available at the record office. > > Does anyone know why these parishes are not on FS or if they are on the > > site but there is an error in how they are indexed? > > Second question is, I see the website The Geneaologist has transcripts > > of parts of some of these records for sale, added July 2015. Does anyone > > have experience of the quality of their work? > > TIA > > Rosie. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Sheila, I didn't receive a reply to my earlier email so I went ahead and asked questions for you on our local WAGSnet. I had never heard of Boilup but there many 'ups' down South f fPerth. Here is what a very helpful person found: Hi there Ann, I think I have found your Albert Brackenbury and Mavis Knopka. There was a marriage in 1937, marriage place-Western Australia reg place-- Perth, Western Australia. Mavis' reg# 368, Albert's reg# 3?? With the marriage place being West Aust, could be they married in the country and it was registered in the city. I think the towns you are looking for are Boyanup and Balingup which are both located on the South West Highway, south east of Bunbury. On the electoral rolls of 1954/ 1958, Albert and Mavis lived in Kojonup, he worked as a farm hand. I found a death registered for Albert in 1961, aged 66yrs. Born abt 1895. reg place Katanning, reg # 50. His parents were Frederick and Mary. Looking at Ozburials, I found they were both buried in Kojonup, Albert died 9 Sept 1961, Mavis, 24 Sept 1987, aged73yrs. Hope this has been of some help. Kind regards, Jule Edenburg #13018 Regards Ann Spiro Rep-australia-nt-wa@one-name.org Guild member#5101 WAGS member#1288 ONS: Baskett and Briggs DNA Project: Baskett.

Would you like me to ask your questions on the WAGSNet list? Ann Spiro Perth Western Australia Guild ONS Representative for WA & NT. rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS  http://www.one-name.org/ Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett This Albert also had a brother Fred,but the dates do not match,there is a photo on Ancestry of Fred, Mavis and a reference to "-----his brother Albert who moved to Australia" Regards, David I found an Albert Brackenbury marrying Miss Mavis Knopka in Boilup, WesternAustralia in July 1936 ----------

Thanks to everyone who has replied regarding the lost Albert G Brackenbury. The mystery still deepens! The photo on Ancestry of a Fred Brackenbury who had a brother Albert does not match the time period. Thanks Sheila.

Just a, maybe interesting, sideline Our next door neighbour when I lived in Belton (then Suffolk) married an Eva Brackenbury, also from Belton. His brother shortly afterwards moved to Australia. There may have been a Brackenbury link connected with this move. David On 12/15/2015 6:22 PM, Rosemary Jones via wrote: > I found an Albert Brackenbury marrying Miss Mavis Knopka in Boilup, Western > Australia in July 1936. > > http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/212737362?searchTerm=albert%20brackenbury&searchLimits=l-decade=193 > > It may not be the right person but who knows? He wouldn't be the first > seaman to have jumped ship. > > You would probably need to get the marriage certificate from Western > Australia to see if the ages match, if nothing else. > > After that, the Australian Electoral Rolls on Ancestry.com.au may have > something unless they were in South Australia in which case there won't be > anything (they aren't online). You should also look for more articles in > the newspapers in Trove (see link above). > > Rosemary > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:37 AM, paulsheila+sandp via <norfolk@rootsweb.com >> wrote: >> Can anyone help? >> A query on behalf of a Brackenbury cousin who is not in the web: >> >> Albert G. Brackenbury whose birth was registered in the Mutford >> district of Suffolk in 1913 was a son of Frederick William and Blanche >> Brackenbury. >> Albert became a seaman and is known to have married a Jane Wylie in >> 1935 in Liverpool and had a daughter Catherine (Blanche) Brackenbury >> born in Liverpool in 1936. >> >> Albert later disappeared without a trace and none of the family know >> what happened to him! >> He had a brother, Frederick, who went to New Zealand and some of the >> family speculated that Albert may have followed Fred and others suggest >> he may have been lost at sea. >> If anyone has any information about Albert we would be glad to hear >> from you and pass it on. >> Thanks, >> Sheila >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

This Albert also had a brother Fred,but the dates do not match,there is a photo on Ancestry of Fred, Mavis and a reference to "-----his brother Albert who moved to Australia" Regards, David -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Jones wrote : Re: [NFK] Albert Brackenbury I found an Albert Brackenbury marrying Miss Mavis Knopka in Boilup, WesternAustralia in July 1936 ---------- ----To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This link https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KGMW-4GG is to a crew list in 1937 - the doc shows both an F and an A Brackenbury . HTH Jean > > On 15 December 2015 at 17:37 paulsheila+sandp via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Can anyone help? > A query on behalf of a Brackenbury cousin who is not in the web: > > Albert G. Brackenbury whose birth was registered in the Mutford > district of Suffolk in 1913 was a son of Frederick William and Blanche > Brackenbury. > Albert became a seaman and is known to have married a Jane Wylie in > 1935 in Liverpool and had a daughter Catherine (Blanche) Brackenbury > born in Liverpool in 1936. > > Albert later disappeared without a trace and none of the family know > what happened to him! > He had a brother, Frederick, who went to New Zealand and some of the > family speculated that Albert may have followed Fred and others suggest > he may have been lost at sea. > If anyone has any information about Albert we would be glad to hear > from you and pass it on. > Thanks, > Sheila > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone help? A query on behalf of a Brackenbury cousin who is not in the web: Albert G. Brackenbury whose birth was registered in the Mutford district of Suffolk in 1913 was a son of Frederick William and Blanche Brackenbury. Albert became a seaman and is known to have married a Jane Wylie in 1935 in Liverpool and had a daughter Catherine (Blanche) Brackenbury born in Liverpool in 1936. Albert later disappeared without a trace and none of the family know what happened to him! He had a brother, Frederick, who went to New Zealand and some of the family speculated that Albert may have followed Fred and others suggest he may have been lost at sea. If anyone has any information about Albert we would be glad to hear from you and pass it on. Thanks, Sheila

I found an Albert Brackenbury marrying Miss Mavis Knopka in Boilup, Western Australia in July 1936. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/212737362?searchTerm=albert%20brackenbury&searchLimits=l-decade=193 It may not be the right person but who knows? He wouldn't be the first seaman to have jumped ship. You would probably need to get the marriage certificate from Western Australia to see if the ages match, if nothing else. After that, the Australian Electoral Rolls on Ancestry.com.au may have something unless they were in South Australia in which case there won't be anything (they aren't online). You should also look for more articles in the newspapers in Trove (see link above). Rosemary On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:37 AM, paulsheila+sandp via <norfolk@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Can anyone help? > A query on behalf of a Brackenbury cousin who is not in the web: > > Albert G. Brackenbury whose birth was registered in the Mutford > district of Suffolk in 1913 was a son of Frederick William and Blanche > Brackenbury. > Albert became a seaman and is known to have married a Jane Wylie in > 1935 in Liverpool and had a daughter Catherine (Blanche) Brackenbury > born in Liverpool in 1936. > > Albert later disappeared without a trace and none of the family know > what happened to him! > He had a brother, Frederick, who went to New Zealand and some of the > family speculated that Albert may have followed Fred and others suggest > he may have been lost at sea. > If anyone has any information about Albert we would be glad to hear > from you and pass it on. > Thanks, > Sheila > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Yes we sang that too - Richmond NSW :) Ann in very hot Perth That's what I remember & I was brought up in Sydney. It's an old Christmas song. Rosemary On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 5:32 PM, JERRY M DAVIDSON Owner via < norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Christmas is acoming and the geese are getting fat Please to put a > penny in the old man's hat If you haven't got a penny then a halfpenny > will do If you haven't got a halfpenny then God Bless You >> Jean Arizona, USA

Before we get a couple of thousand messages like this, can we stick to Norfolk please. If the urge really takes you, at least stick a summary of your current Norfolk interests in the mail as well! regards Keith P.S. First recorded collection of this song is Shropshire. On 13/12/2015 23:32, JERRY M DAVIDSON Owner via wrote: > I must apologize if I have the following song wrong. I was born in London many years ago, but the following song has been singing in my head, so here goes: > Christmas is acoming and the geese are getting fat > Please to put a penny in the old man's hat > If you haven't got a penny then a halfpenny will do > If you haven't got a halfpenny then God Bless You > > Jean > Arizona, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, these are just fraud and criminal. Delete as Pam says. Pauline. -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Downes via Sent: 14 December 2015 09:56 To: sbrainstev@inbox.lv; Stephen Brain; norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] Waiting to hear from you.............Stephen Brain Just in case anyone is unaware of these types of emails - they're spam, and should just be totally ignored (even if from people who are your friends) and quietly deleted. Pam On 14 December 2015 at 07:54, Stephen Brain via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - > > I really hope you get this fast. I could not inform anyone about my trip, > because it was impromptu. Am stranded here in Kiev, Ukraine since last > night. I was hurt and robbed on my way to the hotel I stayed and my luggage > is still in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment on > outstanding bills I owe. > Please let me know if you can quickly help with a LOAN. I will refund the > money back to you as soon as I get back home. > Waiting for your mail. > Regards, > Thanks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just in case anyone is unaware of these types of emails - they're spam, and should just be totally ignored (even if from people who are your friends) and quietly deleted. Pam On 14 December 2015 at 07:54, Stephen Brain via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - > > I really hope you get this fast. I could not inform anyone about my trip, > because it was impromptu. Am stranded here in Kiev, Ukraine since last > night. I was hurt and robbed on my way to the hotel I stayed and my luggage > is still in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment on > outstanding bills I owe. > Please let me know if you can quickly help with a LOAN. I will refund the > money back to you as soon as I get back home. > Waiting for your mail. > Regards, > Thanks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

- This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - I really hope you get this fast. I could not inform anyone about my trip, because it was impromptu. Am stranded here in Kiev, Ukraine since last night. I was hurt and robbed on my way to the hotel I stayed and my luggage is still in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment on outstanding bills I owe. Please let me know if you can quickly help with a LOAN. I will refund the money back to you as soon as I get back home. Waiting for your mail. Regards, Thanks

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That's what I remember & I was brought up in Sydney. It's an old Christmas song. Rosemary On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 5:32 PM, JERRY M DAVIDSON Owner via < norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I must apologize if I have the following song wrong. I was born in London > many years ago, but the following song has been singing in my head, so here > goes: > Christmas is acoming and the geese are getting fat > Please to put a penny in the old man's hat > If you haven't got a penny then a halfpenny will do > If you haven't got a halfpenny then God Bless You > > Jean > Arizona, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >