Peter, Have you tried FreeReg - there seem to be quite a few around the date you are looking for. Also, don’t forget to search for name variants. Good luck. Gerry gerrynuk@gmail.com > On 9 Feb 2016, at 13:37, Peter J Richardson via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Jeremy, > > What do you know already? Do you have his army records? Did he live long > enough to appear on census information? Do you know where he lived after > discharge and where and when he died or have any details of other family > members? > > In other words please give us any clues that already have. > > Regards > Peter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of J Dyble via > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 13:25 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Major john Humphreys > > Hi > > Does anyone know of the birthplace of major john Humphreys born about 1780 > in Norfolk. > > Thx Jeremy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jeremy, What do you know already? Do you have his army records? Did he live long enough to appear on census information? Do you know where he lived after discharge and where and when he died or have any details of other family members? In other words please give us any clues that already have. Regards Peter -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J Dyble via Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 13:25 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Major john Humphreys Hi Does anyone know of the birthplace of major john Humphreys born about 1780 in Norfolk. Thx Jeremy

Bold Wolfe Youtube has a version of the folk song for anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUW2DXxmzYA which is the nearest I can find to the traditional version I know - the tune slightly different in parts - but there are interesting illiustrations and map. Jean On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:48 AM, xpn11 via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Following up the tidewaiter occupation which involved a marriage by a > Warren widow, I have this morning after buying some credits discovered > on FMP newspaper archive the death notice in 1809 of Captain Isaac > Eylis Warren, my husband's ancestor, in his 73rd year at Warham, The > item states that he was a volunteer at the siege of Quebec and it was > his solemn task to support on the Rock and witness Wolfe's last moments. > Hope this is of interest to any Warren researchers. I will not be likely > to follow this up myself as it is my husbands project. > Rosie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Does anyone know of the birthplace of major john Humphreys born about 1780 in Norfolk. Thx Jeremy

The topc of Wolfe came up only recently in another context... On 9 February 2016 at 10:48, xpn11 via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Following up the tidewaiter occupation which involved a marriage by a > Warren widow, I have this morning after buying some credits discovered > on FMP newspaper archive the death notice in 1809 of Captain Isaac > Eylis Warren, my husband's ancestor, in his 73rd year at Warham, The > item states that he was a volunteer at the siege of Quebec and it was > his solemn task to support on the Rock and witness Wolfe's last moments. > Hope this is of interest to any Warren researchers. I will not be likely > to follow this up myself as it is my husbands project. > Rosie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and then delete this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer.

Following up the tidewaiter occupation which involved a marriage by a Warren widow, I have this morning after buying some credits discovered on FMP newspaper archive the death notice in 1809 of Captain Isaac Eylis Warren, my husband's ancestor, in his 73rd year at Warham, The item states that he was a volunteer at the siege of Quebec and it was his solemn task to support on the Rock and witness Wolfe's last moments. Hope this is of interest to any Warren researchers. I will not be likely to follow this up myself as it is my husbands project. Rosie

Thankyou to everyone who replied-the super ( annuated ) would not have occurred to me in this context when I was asked to view the census return. As the second marriage was in very late years I think my husband neglected to follow up baptisms of his ancestors step children. I had a quick look recently on TNA website for Customs and Revenue services in another context and research does not look easy going . Thanks again. Rosie On 08/02/2016 22:54, Keith Drage via wrote: > In 1796 a Henry WAYTE married a Susanna ALLEN at Wells, and Freereg has > a series of baptisms from that date, the last of which in 1813 reachs > dates when occupations were specified. And the occupation is transcribed > as "tide waiter". Records are all on Freereg or alternatively on > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tinstaafl/Church_Pages/wells.htm > > This could potentially be either same Henry or a related Henry. Susanna > looks to have died in 1844 aged 71 and Henry looks to have married > another Susanna later that year. The age for Susanna does not quite > correlate with your 1851 age for Henry. > > I don't know how this ties in with his military service. > > Looks like all the official documentation that might still survice for > customs officials is at TNA, and not available via any online sources. > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/customs-officers/ > > regards > > Keith Drage > > On 08/02/2016 19:18, xpn11 via wrote: >> I forgot to mention that, sorry-being with customs seems a fit >> occupation for an army pensioner. more so than cockling , These are my >> husband's researches .Henry is the second husband of one of his ancestors. >> Thanks again >> Rosie >> >> On 08/02/2016 19:11, Nivard Ovington via wrote: >>> Hi again >>> >>> In 1841 Hy WAYTE aged 64 (should be enumerated as 60) is an Army P (Army >>> Pensioner) >>> >>> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >>> >>> On 08/02/2016 19:01, xpn11 via wrote: >>>> Opinions welcomed if anyone feels inclined. >>>> 1851 census for Wells Next the Sea, Henry Wayte born Aldborough >>>> Norfolk age 74 (. Schedule no 118 Piece 1826 Folio 665 page 25) >>>> His occupation is tidewater sailor ? Am I reading that correctly? >>>> This is not a term I am familiar with despite lots of days spent on >>>> Wells beach. From google " tidewater" appears to be used in the USA for >>>> the area affected by the tides and is also used for small boats. >>>> Henry was an army pensioner on the 41 so is this someone supplementing >>>> income with some dab fishing in the creeks or cockle fishing or is the >>>> second word not sailor but something else ? >>>> Thanks in anticipation >>>> Rosie >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Henry is a *Tidewaiter* (*super*annuated=pensioner) HM customs officer! Regards Ian On 8 February 2016 at 20:18, xpn11 via <norfolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I forgot to mention that, sorry-being with customs seems a fit > occupation for an army pensioner. more so than cockling , These are my > husband's researches .Henry is the second husband of one of his ancestors. > Thanks again > Rosie > > On 08/02/2016 19:11, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > > Hi again > > > > In 1841 Hy WAYTE aged 64 (should be enumerated as 60) is an Army P (Army > > Pensioner) > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 08/02/2016 19:01, xpn11 via wrote: > >> Opinions welcomed if anyone feels inclined. > >> 1851 census for Wells Next the Sea, Henry Wayte born Aldborough > >> Norfolk age 74 (. Schedule no 118 Piece 1826 Folio 665 page 25) > >> His occupation is tidewater sailor ? Am I reading that correctly? > >> This is not a term I am familiar with despite lots of days spent on > >> Wells beach. From google " tidewater" appears to be used in the USA for > >> the area affected by the tides and is also used for small boats. > >> Henry was an army pensioner on the 41 so is this someone > supplementing > >> income with some dab fishing in the creeks or cockle fishing or is the > >> second word not sailor but something else ? > >> Thanks in anticipation > >> Rosie > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In 1796 a Henry WAYTE married a Susanna ALLEN at Wells, and Freereg has a series of baptisms from that date, the last of which in 1813 reachs dates when occupations were specified. And the occupation is transcribed as "tide waiter". Records are all on Freereg or alternatively on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tinstaafl/Church_Pages/wells.htm This could potentially be either same Henry or a related Henry. Susanna looks to have died in 1844 aged 71 and Henry looks to have married another Susanna later that year. The age for Susanna does not quite correlate with your 1851 age for Henry. I don't know how this ties in with his military service. Looks like all the official documentation that might still survice for customs officials is at TNA, and not available via any online sources. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/customs-officers/ regards Keith Drage On 08/02/2016 19:18, xpn11 via wrote: > I forgot to mention that, sorry-being with customs seems a fit > occupation for an army pensioner. more so than cockling , These are my > husband's researches .Henry is the second husband of one of his ancestors. > Thanks again > Rosie > > On 08/02/2016 19:11, Nivard Ovington via wrote: >> Hi again >> >> In 1841 Hy WAYTE aged 64 (should be enumerated as 60) is an Army P (Army >> Pensioner) >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> On 08/02/2016 19:01, xpn11 via wrote: >>> Opinions welcomed if anyone feels inclined. >>> 1851 census for Wells Next the Sea, Henry Wayte born Aldborough >>> Norfolk age 74 (. Schedule no 118 Piece 1826 Folio 665 page 25) >>> His occupation is tidewater sailor ? Am I reading that correctly? >>> This is not a term I am familiar with despite lots of days spent on >>> Wells beach. From google " tidewater" appears to be used in the USA for >>> the area affected by the tides and is also used for small boats. >>> Henry was an army pensioner on the 41 so is this someone supplementing >>> income with some dab fishing in the creeks or cockle fishing or is the >>> second word not sailor but something else ? >>> Thanks in anticipation >>> Rosie >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I forgot to mention that, sorry-being with customs seems a fit occupation for an army pensioner. more so than cockling , These are my husband's researches .Henry is the second husband of one of his ancestors. Thanks again Rosie On 08/02/2016 19:11, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > Hi again > > In 1841 Hy WAYTE aged 64 (should be enumerated as 60) is an Army P (Army > Pensioner) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 08/02/2016 19:01, xpn11 via wrote: >> Opinions welcomed if anyone feels inclined. >> 1851 census for Wells Next the Sea, Henry Wayte born Aldborough >> Norfolk age 74 (. Schedule no 118 Piece 1826 Folio 665 page 25) >> His occupation is tidewater sailor ? Am I reading that correctly? >> This is not a term I am familiar with despite lots of days spent on >> Wells beach. From google " tidewater" appears to be used in the USA for >> the area affected by the tides and is also used for small boats. >> Henry was an army pensioner on the 41 so is this someone supplementing >> income with some dab fishing in the creeks or cockle fishing or is the >> second word not sailor but something else ? >> Thanks in anticipation >> Rosie > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you have his army service discharge papers ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/02/2016 19:13, xpn11@aol.com wrote: > Ah now that makes a lot more sense. Thank you for the information Nivard. > Rosie > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Ah now that makes a lot more sense. Thank you for the information Nivard. Rosie On 08/02/2016 19:07, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > Hi Rosie > > I suspect it might be Tide Waiter > > Who was a customs officer who boarded ships on arrival to enforce > regulations > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 08/02/2016 19:01, xpn11 via wrote: >> Opinions welcomed if anyone feels inclined. >> 1851 census for Wells Next the Sea, Henry Wayte born Aldborough >> Norfolk age 74 (. Schedule no 118 Piece 1826 Folio 665 page 25) >> His occupation is tidewater sailor ? Am I reading that correctly? >> This is not a term I am familiar with despite lots of days spent on >> Wells beach. From google " tidewater" appears to be used in the USA for >> the area affected by the tides and is also used for small boats. >> Henry was an army pensioner on the 41 so is this someone supplementing >> income with some dab fishing in the creeks or cockle fishing or is the >> second word not sailor but something else ? >> Thanks in anticipation >> Rosie > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again In 1841 Hy WAYTE aged 64 (should be enumerated as 60) is an Army P (Army Pensioner) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/02/2016 19:01, xpn11 via wrote: > Opinions welcomed if anyone feels inclined. > 1851 census for Wells Next the Sea, Henry Wayte born Aldborough > Norfolk age 74 (. Schedule no 118 Piece 1826 Folio 665 page 25) > His occupation is tidewater sailor ? Am I reading that correctly? > This is not a term I am familiar with despite lots of days spent on > Wells beach. From google " tidewater" appears to be used in the USA for > the area affected by the tides and is also used for small boats. > Henry was an army pensioner on the 41 so is this someone supplementing > income with some dab fishing in the creeks or cockle fishing or is the > second word not sailor but something else ? > Thanks in anticipation > Rosie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Rosie I suspect it might be Tide Waiter Who was a customs officer who boarded ships on arrival to enforce regulations Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/02/2016 19:01, xpn11 via wrote: > Opinions welcomed if anyone feels inclined. > 1851 census for Wells Next the Sea, Henry Wayte born Aldborough > Norfolk age 74 (. Schedule no 118 Piece 1826 Folio 665 page 25) > His occupation is tidewater sailor ? Am I reading that correctly? > This is not a term I am familiar with despite lots of days spent on > Wells beach. From google " tidewater" appears to be used in the USA for > the area affected by the tides and is also used for small boats. > Henry was an army pensioner on the 41 so is this someone supplementing > income with some dab fishing in the creeks or cockle fishing or is the > second word not sailor but something else ? > Thanks in anticipation > Rosie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Opinions welcomed if anyone feels inclined. 1851 census for Wells Next the Sea, Henry Wayte born Aldborough Norfolk age 74 (. Schedule no 118 Piece 1826 Folio 665 page 25) His occupation is tidewater sailor ? Am I reading that correctly? This is not a term I am familiar with despite lots of days spent on Wells beach. From google " tidewater" appears to be used in the USA for the area affected by the tides and is also used for small boats. Henry was an army pensioner on the 41 so is this someone supplementing income with some dab fishing in the creeks or cockle fishing or is the second word not sailor but something else ? Thanks in anticipation Rosie

Thank you Caroline, I should have said that I do have that, and I know from the 1911 census that Valentine GREENWOOD's wife was Alice Mary and that she was born in Gt Yarmouth. I am just curious as to how they might have met as Valentine is recorded in Lambeth and Camberwell from his birth in 1880 until his death in 1968. I assume that there must have been KEABLE family in Gt Yarmouth as Alice's brother, Percy George KEABLE, aged 37, was a visitor in 1911 and he gives Gt Yarmouth as his place of birth. Pauline. -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Bell via Sent: 07 February 2016 17:10 To: Pauline Taylor via Subject: Re: [NFK] Valentine GREENWOOD I should have also said that the other ‘alternative’ bride on the page was Alice Marion ROBERTS ???? Caroline From: Pauline Taylor via Sent: 07 February 2016 17:04 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Valentine GREENWOOD Correction, I think the bride was Alice Mary Keable. My apologies for the mistake!! Pauline. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I should have also said that the other ‘alternative’ bride on the page was Alice Marion ROBERTS ???? Caroline From: Pauline Taylor via Sent: 07 February 2016 17:04 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Valentine GREENWOOD Correction, I think the bride was Alice Mary Keable. My apologies for the mistake!! Pauline. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Valentine GREENWOOD married Alice Mary KEABLE , Great Yarmouth 4th quarter 1908. Ref: vol 4b page 17 Caroline From: Pauline Taylor via Sent: 07 February 2016 17:04 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Valentine GREENWOOD Correction, I think the bride was Alice Mary Keable. My apologies for the mistake!! Pauline. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Correction, I think the bride was Alice Mary Keable. My apologies for the mistake!! Pauline.

I am searching for the marriage of Valentine GREENWOOD and Mary Ann KEABLE which I believe to have taken place in Great Yarmouth in 1908. Can anyone help please. Pauline Taylor. Colchester. Britain's First City.