Hi, there is an entry in the 1841 census for Hevingham which shows an Edward Wighton , 32, ag lab, Y, Jane , 31, Y, and Benjn , 8 , Y. Also in Hevingham in 1841 is a Benjamin Allen , 57, ag lab, Y, with Eliza, 61, and a William Burphen , 5, Pheobe Allen , 27, and John Allen , 4 . There is a big family of Wighton living just a few doors away , Thomas and Sophia , with Juniper, William , Maria, Elizabeth, Robert . There is a combination of William Wighton , 30, ag lab, Y, with Elizabeth , 25, Y, Rebecca, 6 and Mary , 2......and with the family is John Williamson , 55 , lodgr, perhaps this is the Elizabeth Williamson you mention married to William Wighton . There is a Robert and Ann Williamson of Gt Bircham with a son Benjamin aged 13 . But no specific Benjamin Allen aged 5 or 6. If he is William Burphen , 5, living with Benjamin Allen senr and Jane , then he would fit in with Williama and Elizabeth Wighton`s other children , Rebecca 6 and Mary 2. Perhaps !!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 8:21 AM Subject: [NFK] Benjamin Allen or Wighton or Williamson born Hevingham c.1832/3 > > Hi Listers, > > I am trying to resolve an issue with two registration entries in FreeReg > for a birth at St Botolph Hevingham. They both relate to Registry Entry > 581, one indicating that Benjamin Allen was the illegitimate son of a > woman surname Wighton, the other has father as surname Allen and mother as > Elizabeth Wighton. > > I am wondering whether this Benjamin Allen has anything to do with the > Elizabeth Williamson who married William Wighton at St Botolph Hevingham > in 1832. Any ideas / assistance greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards, Warren Diggins (Australia) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am researching: GORBLE GORBELL GORBEL GORBALL GORBOLD Would like to correspond with others with this not quite so common Surname. Thanks

Hi Jean, Thanks to all those who are helping with this problem. It is interesting that Edward Whiton is shown as a Fowl Dealer, as the Benjamin Allen whom I think is the fellow baptised 1833, is shown in the 1891 Census as being "Fowl dealer to the Queen". Also there are items in the Hevingham Church, indicated by consecutive numbers, firstly for Edward Wighton aged 61 in 1869, and secondly Susan, aged 41 (1878), relict of Benjamin Allen. I'm thinking Susan may have been Susan Crickmay, nee Tooley, who married a Benjamin Allen in Hevingham in 1871. I would love to know the details of the parent's of Benjamin. Kind regards, Warren -----Original Message----- From: Jean Greenwood <jeangreenwood@virginmedia.com> To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 22:53 Subject: Re: [NFK] Benjamin Allen or Wighton or Williamson born Hevingham c. 1832/3 >From 1851 census ame Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace dward WHITON Head M 43 M Fowl Dealer Hevingham-Norfolk ane WHITON Wife M 43 F Weaver (Silk & Worsted Net) Hevingham-Norfolk Benjamin ALLEN* Son U 17 M Weaver (Cotton & Worsted Net) Hevingham-Norfolk ohn THURSTON Lodg M 73 M Broom Maker Hevingham-Norfolk harles DACK Lodg U 61 M Ag Lab Hevingham-Norfolk Address: Town St, Aylsham Census Place: Hevingham Aylsham, Norfolk PRO Reference: HO/107/1810 Folio: 657 Page: 12 FHL Film: 0207463 In 1841 Benjamin is not shown with these parents On 3 July 2011 08:21, Warren Diggins <digginswj@aol.com> wrote: > Hi Listers, I am trying to resolve an issue with two registration entries in FreeReg for a birth at St Botolph Hevingham. They both relate to Registry Entry 581, one indicating that Benjamin Allen was the illegitimate son of a woman surname Wighton, the other has father as surname Allen and mother as Elizabeth Wighton. I am wondering whether this Benjamin Allen has anything to do with the Elizabeth Williamson who married William Wighton at St Botolph Hevingham in 1832. Any ideas / assistance greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Warren Diggins (Australia) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for your reply. I am now wondering whether the William Burphen you mention might be William B (for Benjamin), orphan. I have found another reference where relationship was denoted as orphan, yet the child was actually a step-child to the head of the household. I couldn't find the name Burphen on Freereg in Norfolk. Is Burphen clearly written? It seems odd that Benjamin (born c. 1833) was not living with Elizabeth Wighton if she was the mother? The Benjamin Allen I am chasing would have to have been born in 1831, and I am hoping that he could therefore have been a child of Elizabeth Williamson's, born before she married William Wighton (but baptised after the marriage). Kind regards, Warren -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 20:23 Subject: [NFK] Benjamin Allen or Wighton or Williamson born Hevingham c.1832/3 Hi, there is an entry in the 1841 census for Hevingham which hows an Edward Wighton , 32, ag lab, Y, Jane , 31, Y, and Benjn , 8 , Y. lso in Hevingham in 1841 is a Benjamin Allen , 57, ag lab, Y, with Eliza, 1, and a William Burphen , 5, Pheobe Allen , 27, and John Allen , 4 . here is a big family of Wighton living just a few doors away , Thomas and ophia , with Juniper, William , Maria, Elizabeth, Robert . There is a ombination of William Wighton , 30, ag lab, Y, with Elizabeth , 25, Y, ebecca, 6 and Mary , 2......and with the family is John Williamson , 55 , odgr, perhaps this is the Elizabeth Williamson you mention married to illiam Wighton . There is a Robert and Ann Williamson of Gt Bircham with son Benjamin aged 13 . But no specific Benjamin Allen aged 5 or 6. If he is William urphen , 5, living with Benjamin Allen senr and Jane , then he would fit in ith Williama and Elizabeth Wighton`s other children , Rebecca 6 and Mary 2. erhaps !!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> ent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 8:21 AM ubject: [NFK] Benjamin Allen or Wighton or Williamson born Hevingham .1832/3 Hi Listers, I am trying to resolve an issue with two registration entries in FreeReg for a birth at St Botolph Hevingham. They both relate to Registry Entry

Hi Listers, I am trying to resolve an issue with two registration entries in FreeReg for a birth at St Botolph Hevingham. They both relate to Registry Entry 581, one indicating that Benjamin Allen was the illegitimate son of a woman surname Wighton, the other has father as surname Allen and mother as Elizabeth Wighton. I am wondering whether this Benjamin Allen has anything to do with the Elizabeth Williamson who married William Wighton at St Botolph Hevingham in 1832. Any ideas / assistance greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Warren Diggins (Australia)

I notice that my original message had a major typo in the subject line !! (now corrected here), but advertising, in the normal meaning of the term it was not. Of course, I get a major feeling of being useful in my old age, from the messages of enquiry, requests for assistance, or enquiry I get from the many e=mails, or contributions to my web-site I receive from listers, which are countless in their numbers over the years that I have been involved, in my retirement - which justify me in feeling I have made some useful contribution to family and local history in Norfolk - a research in which I have now spent a quarter of a century since retirement in 1986 and which I have always tried to share with others on the web. Alan Nelson and others may like to read my explanation of how I became involved, which is available on my web-site (from 1989) at <http://apling.freeservers.com/Transcripts.htm>. A couple of years ago, I got others in our tiny village (total population not much over 40), which has so much history to celebrate - including the Robert Southwell who commanded a ship of-the-line in the defeat of the Armada - and much else to organised a History Day, which brought several hundred visitors and a contribution of over £300 to help with the maintenance of our ancient church (to which several links are to be found on my site - including an audio presentation which includes some music from our rare barrel organ). Woodrising has, for many years been included in the civil parish of Cranworth = and in late May we had this year an equally successful History Weekend - in which the component villages of Cranworth, Southburgh, Letton and Woodrising all participated, with spectacular success. It was a result of planning for this weekend that Terry Miller got in touch with me and told me of their researches into the Southwell family, for which they had been unable to find a publisher and I willingly said "I will put it on my web-site" - which I have done, I hope successfully. An earlier history of Woodrising was prepared in 1959 by Francis Steer (listed on the Bibliography page) - published at the time by the Diocese of Norwich. This has long been out-of-print; so I am now planning to transcribe THIS over the next few weeks. There are many in Norfolk contributing to the free dissemination of local and family history on the web and am glad, despite the occasional carping messages such as that of the instigator of this epistle, that my efforts seem to be well rewarded - in that my web-site receives an average daily usage of an average of 650 page hits and over 200 unique visitors daily. So - if my notifications of new additions to the site are "advertising" - it seems that they are generally well received ..... Greetings to all researching local and family history in Norfolk, Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Nelson Sent: 01 July 2011 9:20 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] ublication of "The Southwells of Woodrising" thought advertising wasnt encouraged If this isnt advertising what is it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Apling" <e.c.apling@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:30 PM Subject: [NFK] ublication of "The Southwells of Woodrising" > Today sees the publication of the "The Southwells of Woodrising, Norfolk", > by Terry and Mary Miller, uniquely available at > <http://apling.freeservers.com/Woodrising/Southwells.htm>. This is a major > new contribution to the study of the history of one of the powerful > Norfolk > families, who played a role throughout the Tudor period, from the time of > Henry VIII to Queen Elizabeth I, despite being really supporters of the > Catholic faith. > > The work consists of ten chapters covering various aspects of the family's > fortunes, together with ten illustrations, four genealogical charts, and > an > extensive bibliography. > > Paddy > http://apling.freeservers.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that Joan. Nice to hear from you. Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Greenwood Sent: 01 July 2011 9:33 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] ublication of "The Southwells of Woodrising" Can't see anywhere asking you to purchase anything. Just Paddy yet again giving generously of his time to put a transcription of 'Southwells' on his website for all to read - gratis! Jean On 1 July 2011 21:19, Alan Nelson <atgn@elder53.plus.com> wrote: > thought advertising wasnt encouraged > If this isnt advertising what is it ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Advertising is commercial for gain. This most definitely is not - simply telling listers of what they may find is a useful link. I notice that already over 120 unique visitors have had a look at the "advertised" page - and they may or may not have found it of interest - yours is so far the only response I have seen. Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Nelson Sent: 01 July 2011 9:20 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] ublication of "The Southwells of Woodrising" thought advertising wasnt encouraged If this isnt advertising what is it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Apling" <e.c.apling@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:30 PM Subject: [NFK] ublication of "The Southwells of Woodrising" > Today sees the publication of the "The Southwells of Woodrising, Norfolk", > by Terry and Mary Miller, uniquely available at > <http://apling.freeservers.com/Woodrising/Southwells.htm>. This is a major > new contribution to the study of the history of one of the powerful > Norfolk > families, who played a role throughout the Tudor period, from the time of > Henry VIII to Queen Elizabeth I, despite being really supporters of the > Catholic faith. > > The work consists of ten chapters covering various aspects of the family's > fortunes, together with ten illustrations, four genealogical charts, and > an > extensive bibliography. > > Paddy > http://apling.freeservers.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Take a look here: http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2008/12/02/109229/South-Norfolk-arable-farm-for-sale.htm Pics there. ________________________________ From: richard <richardmyhill43@btinternet.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 2 July, 2011 14:25:15 Subject: [NFK] TIVETSHALL ST.MARY Is there anyone on the list who could advise me regarding some local history of the village.My 3 x Gt Uncle JAMES BARTRAM was the farmer at Mill Green Farm according to the 1891 census,and i would like to find out more if i can,i also have some photo's that i believe were taken on the farm that i would positively identify. Thanks, Richard Myhill richardmyhill43@btinternet.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard I have some Bartam bap to 1837 if you need them. Regards Graham On 02/07/2011 14:25, richard wrote: > Is there anyone on the list who could advise me regarding some local history of the village.My 3 x Gt Uncle JAMES BARTRAM was the farmer at Mill Green Farm according to the 1891 census,and i would like to find out more if i can,i also have some photo's that i believe were taken on the farm that i would positively identify. > Thanks, > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > . >

Is there anyone on the list who could advise me regarding some local history of the village.My 3 x Gt Uncle JAMES BARTRAM was the farmer at Mill Green Farm according to the 1891 census,and i would like to find out more if i can,i also have some photo's that i believe were taken on the farm that i would positively identify. Thanks, Richard Myhill richardmyhill43@btinternet.com

On 2011/07/01 18:26, Richard wrote: > Those FreeReg Transcribers do know their stuff, don't they? We try and give that impression :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Good evening to everyone, I have recently been restoring my damaged family photos ready to create my family tree book for members of the family and it got me thinking. If i can restore my photos and be pleased with them, then maybe there are persons on the list who also have damaged photos who would love for them to be restored. If you are interested in me doing this for you please contact me off list. I can provide examples from my family album which i have done, so that you are able to see what can be achieved. There will be a small charge for my time, but it is well worth it. All i would need is a scanned copy of the photo, and i can do the rest, I look forward to hearing from you, Regards Louise

Good evening to everyone, I have recently been restoring my damaged family photos ready to create my family tree book for members of the family and it got me thinking. If i can restore my photos and be pleased with them, then maybe there are persons on the list who also have damaged photos who would love for them to be restored. If you are interested in me doing this for you please contact me off list. I can provide examples from my family album which i have done, so that you are able to see what can be achieved. There will be a small charge for my time, but it is well worth it. All i would need is a scanned copy of the photo, and i can do the rest, I look forward to hearing from you, Regards Louise

At the risk of incurring the Wrath of Mark, I'd say that anyone who ain't a fan of Paddy's site ain't from Norfolk :-) On 01/07/2011 21:19, Alan Nelson wrote: > thought advertising wasnt encouraged > If this isnt advertising what is it > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paddy Apling"<e.c.apling@btinternet.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:30 PM > Subject: [NFK] ublication of "The Southwells of Woodrising" > > >> Today sees the publication of the "The Southwells of Woodrising, Norfolk", >> by Terry and Mary Miller, uniquely available at >> <http://apling.freeservers.com/Woodrising/Southwells.htm>. This is a major >> new contribution to the study of the history of one of the powerful >> Norfolk >> families, who played a role throughout the Tudor period, from the time of >> Henry VIII to Queen Elizabeth I, despite being really supporters of the >> Catholic faith. >> >> The work consists of ten chapters covering various aspects of the family's >> fortunes, together with ten illustrations, four genealogical charts, and >> an >> extensive bibliography. >> >> Paddy >> http://apling.freeservers.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Here, here! Gerry On 1 Jul 2011, at 21:33, Jean Greenwood wrote: > Can't see anywhere asking you to purchase anything. Just Paddy yet > again giving generously of his > time to put a transcription of 'Southwells' on his website for all to > read - gratis! > > > Jean > > On 1 July 2011 21:19, Alan Nelson <atgn@elder53.plus.com> wrote: >> thought advertising wasnt encouraged >> If this isnt advertising what is it > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can't see anywhere asking you to purchase anything. Just Paddy yet again giving generously of his time to put a transcription of 'Southwells' on his website for all to read - gratis! Jean On 1 July 2011 21:19, Alan Nelson <atgn@elder53.plus.com> wrote: > thought advertising wasnt encouraged > If this isnt advertising what is it

thought advertising wasnt encouraged If this isnt advertising what is it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Apling" <e.c.apling@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:30 PM Subject: [NFK] ublication of "The Southwells of Woodrising" > Today sees the publication of the "The Southwells of Woodrising, Norfolk", > by Terry and Mary Miller, uniquely available at > <http://apling.freeservers.com/Woodrising/Southwells.htm>. This is a major > new contribution to the study of the history of one of the powerful > Norfolk > families, who played a role throughout the Tudor period, from the time of > Henry VIII to Queen Elizabeth I, despite being really supporters of the > Catholic faith. > > The work consists of ten chapters covering various aspects of the family's > fortunes, together with ten illustrations, four genealogical charts, and > an > extensive bibliography. > > Paddy > http://apling.freeservers.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Today sees the publication of the "The Southwells of Woodrising, Norfolk", by Terry and Mary Miller, uniquely available at <http://apling.freeservers.com/Woodrising/Southwells.htm>. This is a major new contribution to the study of the history of one of the powerful Norfolk families, who played a role throughout the Tudor period, from the time of Henry VIII to Queen Elizabeth I, despite being really supporters of the Catholic faith. The work consists of ten chapters covering various aspects of the family's fortunes, together with ten illustrations, four genealogical charts, and an extensive bibliography. Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com

St Audrey is the saint of Ely and the word tawdry is meant to come from selling bits and bobs of low quality at St Audrey's Fair. Not checked if that is for true though I think Holder is not a very common name in Norfolk and I would have been tempted to go for Holden at first look. Show the value of looking forward and back in records when coming across a new name Rosie On 01/07/2011 18:55, Brian Sillett wrote: > Sorry. Yes it is a female name. I have always thought Audrey was a fairly > modern name but I believe it might be a variation of Ethelreda in Old > English and Audrey also appears in Shakespeare. > > Perhaps I am looking too far beyond the obvious. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pam Downes > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:16 PM > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] Forenames > > If it's female - Audrey? > > On 01/07/2011 18:03, Brian Sillett wrote: >> The very recent discussion regarding Ales/Alice reminds me that I have a >> couple of Adrie Silletts. >> >> This is not a forename I have come across much and there is no doubt about >> the spellings. >> >> Does anyone think it might be short for something, or a pet name? >> >> ------------------------------- >>