I am researching Joseph GILLETT and his family. Evidence points to my Joseph GILLETT originating in Oxfordshire (at Swyncombe)about 1778 but it is possible that he  married Lydia KITSON at St Pauls in Norwich on 16 March 1798 and some of their children were baptised in Norwich. If these are my people and not namesakes, the family then moved to Swyncombe where Lydia's name appears as Sidey (in transcript). There is some census information which is consistent with Norfolk/Norwich births for some of the children. Joseph was a tailor by occupation. In the Norfolk Archdeacon's Transcript of marriages for St Paul, Norwich, it gives Joseph Gillett's home parish as St Lawrence, Ipswich which rather clashes with the (limited) evidence for the Oxfordshire origins of this GILLETT line. Have any listers any interest in these GILLETTs or the KITSON family of Norwich? Is the St Pauls, Norfolk marriage register (not the Archdeacon's transcripts) accessible online for me to check the accuracy of Joseph GILLETT's home parish? I would be grateful for any pointers - such as is it likely that a tailor from Oxfordshire would move to Ipswich, then Norwich and then back to Oxfordshire around 1800? Best wishes to all listers, Robert Hillier, Poole, Dorset

Look at FamilySearch.org if you haven't already. They have the images of the Norfolk Registers, AT's and BT's available online. I don't know if St Paul's Norwich is there but it is very comprehensive. Rosemary On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:23 PM, robert hillier <roberthillier@yahoo.co.uk>wrote: > I am researching Joseph GILLETT and his family. Evidence points to my > Joseph GILLETT originating in Oxfordshire (at Swyncombe)about 1778 but it is > possible that he married Lydia KITSON at St Pauls in Norwich on 16 March > 1798 and some of their children were baptised in Norwich. If these are my > people and not namesakes, the family then moved to Swyncombe where Lydia's > name appears as Sidey (in transcript). There is some census information > which is consistent with Norfolk/Norwich births for some of the children. > Joseph was a tailor by occupation. In the Norfolk Archdeacon's Transcript of > marriages for St Paul, Norwich, it gives Joseph Gillett's home parish as St > Lawrence, Ipswich which rather clashes with the (limited) evidence for the > Oxfordshire origins of this GILLETT line. > > Have any listers any interest in these GILLETTs or the KITSON family of > Norwich? > > Is the St Pauls, Norfolk marriage register (not the Archdeacon's > transcripts) accessible online for me to check the accuracy of Joseph > GILLETT's home parish? > > I would be grateful for any pointers - such as is it likely that a tailor > from Oxfordshire would move to Ipswich, then Norwich and then back to > Oxfordshire around 1800? > > Best wishes to all listers, > Robert Hillier, > Poole, > Dorset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry, I see you give James Dye as the registrar. Fox is named in Kelly's directory of 1879 as the registrar. This is off since Fox was undoubtedly the registrar for North Erpingham at the time, and had been for some years. -- Christopher Pipe BA DipLib MCLIP researching and indexing Norfolk history cp@wmk.demon.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wilkinson Sent: 10 August 2011 20:57 To: NORFOLK Subject: [NFK] John SPURRELL Marriage Hi All I have obtain a certificate for the marriage of John Spurrell and Ann Elizabeth Temple on the 15 September 1877 in the Register Office in the District of Erpingham. Does any one out there actually know where the Register Office was situated? Incidentally, the ceremony was performed by James Dye (Registrar) and James Spurrell Plumby (Superintendent Registrar). Hoping someone knows, Mike Wilkinson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The registrar was John Fox, who had a shop in Jetty Street, Cromer, where he also kept the Post Office and sold stationery, lapidary etc. -- Christopher Pipe / Watermark (Cromer, Norfolk) editing---proofreading---indexing---design for print (esp. Christian theology & devotion; English church & local history) cp@wmk.demon.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wilkinson Sent: 10 August 2011 20:57 To: NORFOLK Subject: [NFK] John SPURRELL Marriage Hi All I have obtain a certificate for the marriage of John Spurrell and Ann Elizabeth Temple on the 15 September 1877 in the Register Office in the District of Erpingham. Does any one out there actually know where the Register Office was situated? Incidentally, the ceremony was performed by James Dye (Registrar) and James Spurrell Plumby (Superintendent Registrar). Hoping someone knows, Mike Wilkinson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

order from the GRO in Southport ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Wilkinson" <mikewilco@tiscali.co.uk> To: "NORFOLK" <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:57 PM Subject: [NFK] John SPURRELL Marriage > Hi All > > I have obtain a certificate for the marriage of John Spurrell and Ann > Elizabeth Temple on the 15 September 1877 in the Register Office in the > District of Erpingham. Does any one out there actually know where the > Register Office was situated? Incidentally, the ceremony was performed by > James Dye (Registrar) and James Spurrell Plumby (Superintendent > Registrar). > > Hoping someone knows, > > Mike Wilkinson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All I have obtain a certificate for the marriage of John Spurrell and Ann Elizabeth Temple on the 15 September 1877 in the Register Office in the District of Erpingham. Does any one out there actually know where the Register Office was situated? Incidentally, the ceremony was performed by James Dye (Registrar) and James Spurrell Plumby (Superintendent Registrar). Hoping someone knows, Mike Wilkinson

Hi Mike I'm not sure where the local register office was but do know that James Spurrel Plumbly was living in Southrepps in 1877 and held several offices there concerned with the Poor Law etc over the years. 2. Monument Inscriptions. Walter Rye:Elizth. Ann wife of James Spurrell Plumbly of S. Repps d 23 April 1877 aged 69. Hope that is of some help. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Wilkinson" <mikewilco@tiscali.co.uk> To: "NORFOLK" <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: [NFK] John SPURRELL Marriage > Hi All > > I have obtain a certificate for the marriage of John Spurrell and Ann > Elizabeth Temple on the 15 September 1877 in the Register Office in the > District of Erpingham. Does any one out there actually know where the > Register Office was situated? Incidentally, the ceremony was performed by > James Dye (Registrar) and James Spurrell Plumby (Superintendent > Registrar). > > Hoping someone knows, > > Mike Wilkinson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Many thanks to everyone for the information re newspapers Robert -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:02 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: NORFOLK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 248 Today's Topics: 4. Re: Kings Lynn newspapers (Maureen Rust) 5. Re: Kings Lynn newspapers (Mike Payne) 6. Re: Kings Lynn newspapers (Stan Langley) To contact the NORFOLK list administrator, send an email to NORFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NORFOLK mailing list, send an email to NORFOLK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

Thanks for this - I'd concentrated on looking through parish registers for local burials, rather than generally looking for deaths - which proves the value of these lists, where someone looks at things in a different way. I've tried, with mixed success, to match the deaths with previous census entries and can eliminate an obviously well to do farmer from Lincolnshire, some where the age is wrong and also the Sheffield widower (1861 census) who appears to have married his 'visitor' by 1871. I still have some to investigate so many thanks. It would be very sad if I eventually find that the identified water theme took her second husband, as her first was 'a fisherman brought ashore' and buried in Lowestoft. I will continue my search and following up your suggestions, but didn't want to delay my thanks. Enid ----- Original Message ----- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:46 AM Subject: [NFK] George Frankish > Hi, there are 8 George Frankish deaths between 1858 and 1871 , > the last two are of babies but the rest are before the date when the age > of > the deceased person was given .......there are two from Lincoln, one > Gainsboro, two Bridlington ......it is possible he moved for work and > maybe > the one in Birmingham is him ... > In fact Eliza in the 1861 is described as an outdoor pauper which > means that she has no means of support, and children to feed, so is on the > Poor Law system . As to the thick black line drawn through the word Mar, > there are a number of lines as you can see through all the entries more or > less , and I would think she is possibly isn`t sure . There is a water > theme through this , Margaret E is born Oulton , Eliza and George are > married at Gt Yarmouth, and I wonder therefore if George isn`t dead in > Bridlington ? > However , there is a Geo Frankish in Sheffield, Arnold, who calls > himself a widower, aged 30 , a carrier, b Lincolnshire , Elsham and with > him > is Mary Jane , dau , 1, b Arnold, and a visitor Eliza Johnson , aged 23 , > b > Beverley ............ > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Enid Rispin" <enid.rispin@ntlworld.com> > To: "Suffolk Rootsweb" <suffolk@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "Norfolk Rootsweb" <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:20 PM > Subject: [NFK] George Frankish > > >> After being widowed my 2x great grandmother Eliza married George FRANKISH >> in Great Yarmouth on December 19th 1858. He is described as aged 26 and a >> labourer. His father - also George - was also a labourer. They then lived >> in Burgh Castle where a daughter, Margaret Eliza, was born in 1860. >> >> On the 1861 census Eliza is living with her parents and children from >> both >> her marriages in Burgh Castle. The description 'Mar' is crossed out, >> suggesting she is no longer married. >> On the 1871 census she is clearly described as a widow and she married >> for >> the third time in August 1873. >> >> I am looking for any more information about George Frankish. Birth / >> baptism about 1830? any census or a death / burial between 1859 (if he >> died before his daughter was born) and 1871 (when Eliza is definitely >> described as a widow.) >> >> The only other possibility I have found is an 1841 census - aged 14, >> which >> may be him, living in Grundisburgh, Suffolk and born in Suffolk. He is a >> male servant working for a butcher. The age is not quite right to fit >> with >> the marriage certificate. >> >> I suspect the name 'Frankish' is unusual enough to have a variety of >> spellings and be resistant to surname searches. >> >> Any help, as always, much appreciated. >> >> Enid >> >> ps As Burgh Castle used to be in Suffolk, but is now part of Norfolk I am >> posting this to both Norfolk & Suffolk rootsweb. I hope this is okay. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David & Listers ! Another good website about 'The Rows' of Great Yarmouth can be found at http://www.paulinedodd.com/rows.html It has some quite good photos of this fascinating area and the special "troll carts"used for delivering goods and furniture through these very narrow accesses. Best Wishes ! Roger. -------------------- On 5 Aug 2011, at 11:53, CULLINGFORD DAVID wrote: > For those of you unfamiliar with how Yarmouth used to be (I am from > there so > I have prior knowledge via family telling me) you might like to > read the > following brief article from the BBC describing the rather unique > "Rows" > system from there. Sadly the Germans wiped it off the map. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/articles/2005/07/05/ > coastwalk05_stage4.shtml > > Regards > > David >

For those of you unfamiliar with how Yarmouth used to be (I am from there so I have prior knowledge via family telling me) you might like to read the following brief article from the BBC describing the rather unique "Rows" system from there. Sadly the Germans wiped it off the map. http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/articles/2005/07/05/coastwalk05_stage4.shtml Regards David On 5 August 2011 10:31, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi, the 1891 for No 12, Row 54 , ( not sure what that means ) > shows Thomas Godfrey, head, marr, 47, painter, b Gt Yarmouth, Sarah , wife, > 45, b GY, Thomas, 18, shop porter, b GY, Edith, 13, mother`s help, b GY, > Ethel , 11, scholar, b GY, Florence, 5, b GY. > In the 1871 census for GY , no in No 9 , Row 3, Thomas Godfrey, is > head, marr, 27, painter , b GY, Sarah is 25, b GY, Alice, 7, scholar, b GY, > Sarah, 5, b GY, Benjamin J( or T) aged 3months , b GY. > In the 1851 census for GY, now at Gaul St, is Maria Godfrey, head, > marr, 32, mariner`s wife, b GY, Benjamin P son , 12, scholar, b GY , Hannah > M , 10, b GY, William T, 9, b GY, Thomas J , 7, b GY, George F, 4, b GY, > Ann > L , 2, b GY, and Alfred E , 4 months b GY. > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Kirby" <markkirby1@sky.com> > To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:30 PM > Subject: [NFK] Florence Alice GODFREY b. 1885/86 Gt Yarmouth > > > > Dear List, > > > > I am looking for information on Florence Alice GODFREY b. 1885/86 in Gt > > Yarmouth. > > > > She married a Walter Henry Temple in 1908 in Yarmouth. > > > > Does anyone have access to the 1891 and/or 1901 census for the Yarmouth > > area > > so that I can confirm her parents? > > > > Many thanks > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For those of you unfamiliar with how Yarmouth used to be (I am from there so I have prior knowledge via family telling me) you might like to read the following brief article from the BBC describing the rather unique "Rows" system from there. Sadly the Germans wiped it off the map. http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/articles/2005/07/05/coastwalk05_stage4.shtml Regards David On 5 August 2011 10:31, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi, the 1891 for No 12, Row 54 , ( not sure what that means ) > shows Thomas Godfrey, head, marr, 47, painter, b Gt Yarmouth, Sarah , wife, > 45, b GY, Thomas, 18, shop porter, b GY, Edith, 13, mother`s help, b GY, > Ethel , 11, scholar, b GY, Florence, 5, b GY. > In the 1871 census for GY , no in No 9 , Row 3, Thomas Godfrey, is > head, marr, 27, painter , b GY, Sarah is 25, b GY, Alice, 7, scholar, b GY, > Sarah, 5, b GY, Benjamin J( or T) aged 3months , b GY. > In the 1851 census for GY, now at Gaul St, is Maria Godfrey, head, > marr, 32, mariner`s wife, b GY, Benjamin P son , 12, scholar, b GY , Hannah > M , 10, b GY, William T, 9, b GY, Thomas J , 7, b GY, George F, 4, b GY, > Ann > L , 2, b GY, and Alfred E , 4 months b GY. > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Kirby" <markkirby1@sky.com> > To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:30 PM > Subject: [NFK] Florence Alice GODFREY b. 1885/86 Gt Yarmouth > > > > Dear List, > > > > I am looking for information on Florence Alice GODFREY b. 1885/86 in Gt > > Yarmouth. > > > > She married a Walter Henry Temple in 1908 in Yarmouth. > > > > Does anyone have access to the 1891 and/or 1901 census for the Yarmouth > > area > > so that I can confirm her parents? > > > > Many thanks > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, the 1891 for No 12, Row 54 , ( not sure what that means ) shows Thomas Godfrey, head, marr, 47, painter, b Gt Yarmouth, Sarah , wife, 45, b GY, Thomas, 18, shop porter, b GY, Edith, 13, mother`s help, b GY, Ethel , 11, scholar, b GY, Florence, 5, b GY. In the 1871 census for GY , no in No 9 , Row 3, Thomas Godfrey, is head, marr, 27, painter , b GY, Sarah is 25, b GY, Alice, 7, scholar, b GY, Sarah, 5, b GY, Benjamin J( or T) aged 3months , b GY. In the 1851 census for GY, now at Gaul St, is Maria Godfrey, head, marr, 32, mariner`s wife, b GY, Benjamin P son , 12, scholar, b GY , Hannah M , 10, b GY, William T, 9, b GY, Thomas J , 7, b GY, George F, 4, b GY, Ann L , 2, b GY, and Alfred E , 4 months b GY. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kirby" <markkirby1@sky.com> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:30 PM Subject: [NFK] Florence Alice GODFREY b. 1885/86 Gt Yarmouth > Dear List, > > I am looking for information on Florence Alice GODFREY b. 1885/86 in Gt > Yarmouth. > > She married a Walter Henry Temple in 1908 in Yarmouth. > > Does anyone have access to the 1891 and/or 1901 census for the Yarmouth > area > so that I can confirm her parents? > > Many thanks > Mark > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi I am writing to provide an update on the 1861 census project. Two further pieces have been uploaded to the on line database and are now searchable for free on the main Freecen site at http://www.freecen.org.uk These are pieces: RG09/1226 Blofield covering the parishes of Blofield, Bradeston, Brundall, Buckenham, Burlingham St Andrew, Burlingham St Edmund, Great Plumstead, Hassingham, Hemblington, Lingwood, Little Plumstead, Postwick, Strumpshaw, Thorpe Next Norwich, Thorpe St Andrew, Witton, Woodbastwick Also from the 1861 *_Cambridgeshire_* census returns RG09/1051 Terrington St Clement covering the parishes of Terrington St Clem, Wingland, Clenchwarton, Tilney All Saints, Tilney Cum Islington, Tilney St Lawrenc , Terrington St John. This means that there are now 401,299 (96.2%) 1861 Norfolk census records available to search free on line. Many thanks to John Seakins, Sally Cutler, Steve Willgress, without their help this information would not be available. If you would like to help with making more information available please contact me on bandys@worldonline.co.uk <mailto:bandys@worldonline.co.uk>. Please remember that spelling was not standard in 1861 so you may need to be a little imaginative with some of your searches. We have to provide a transcript of what the enumerator wrote not what we think he meant. Please see the main Freecen site or my website (see my signature for a link) for details of which pieces are on line. Hope this helps you in your research. Bev -- Bev Howlett FreeCen Co-Ordinator Norfolk 1861,1871,1891 Cambridge 1891 Surrey 1871,1891 Find Out How To Help http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bevsnorfolkinfo/ http://www.freecen.org.uk

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Mark Kirby wrote: >Dear List, > >I am looking for information on Florence Alice GODFREY b. 1885/86 in Gt >Yarmouth. > >She married a Walter Henry Temple in 1908 in Yarmouth. > >Does anyone have access to the 1891 and/or 1901 census for the Yarmouth area >so that I can confirm her parents? > >Many thanks >Mark > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Florence's parents were Thomas and Sarah 3 daughters, Edith bm 1878, Ethel bn 1882 and Florence Anne

Dear List, I am looking for information on Florence Alice GODFREY b. 1885/86 in Gt Yarmouth. She married a Walter Henry Temple in 1908 in Yarmouth. Does anyone have access to the 1891 and/or 1901 census for the Yarmouth area so that I can confirm her parents? Many thanks Mark

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