Hello everyone, I'm wondering if there was any way I could find out if my ancestor was in some kind of business trouble or fraud situation....did local newspapers report on that kind of thing? I'm just curious as he travelled all the way from Heigham Norfolk to Devon sometime between 1881 and 1891 and changed his first name. It also seems business wasn't doing so well as he had moved his business from more of a high end area to a poorer area of town prior to all of this. I'm just wondering if perhaps something went wrong and he did a runner! Thanks, Tam : )

Hi, I was having significant problems, and even enlisted their help service, but in the end it came down to updating Shockwave Flash and Java. Now all works as it used to and should. Don Farnham On 14/09/2011 19:12, David Cullingford wrote: > I have, probably just teething problems. > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: John E Farrow > Date: 14/09/2011 19:06:16 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Family Search Norfolk Images. > > Hi > > Does anyone else notice a significant drop in performance now that the Pilot > Search image viewing facility has ceased ? > > I find that now there are several minor irritating changes but the worst is > that I keep getting a ‘Ooops we cannot find that image’ and the whole thing > freezes. Is it that the system is getting overloaded ? > > Regards > > John E Farrow > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have, probably just teething problems. -------Original Message------- From: John E Farrow Date: 14/09/2011 19:06:16 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Family Search Norfolk Images. Hi Does anyone else notice a significant drop in performance now that the Pilot Search image viewing facility has ceased ? I find that now there are several minor irritating changes but the worst is that I keep getting a ‘Ooops we cannot find that image’ and the whole thing freezes. Is it that the system is getting overloaded ? Regards John E Farrow ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Does anyone else notice a significant drop in performance now that the Pilot Search image viewing facility has ceased ? I find that now there are several minor irritating changes but the worst is that I keep getting a ‘Ooops we cannot find that image’ and the whole thing freezes. Is it that the system is getting overloaded ? Regards John E Farrow

Sorry, but I am new to the list and don't know what the Pilot Search Image Viewing Facility is, or how to access it. Thanks for any helpyou can give. Gail B in St. C. On 14/09/2011 2:12 PM, David Cullingford wrote: > I have, probably just teething problems. > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: John E Farrow > Date: 14/09/2011 19:06:16 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Family Search Norfolk Images. > > Hi > > Does anyone else notice a significant drop in performance now that the Pilot > Search image viewing facility has ceased ? > > I find that now there are several minor irritating changes but the worst is > that I keep getting a ‘Ooops we cannot find that image’ and the whole thing > freezes. Is it that the system is getting overloaded ? > > Regards > > John E Farrow > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks to everyone who responded with help. Much appreciated. I am new to the Norfolk area so I will slowly get my bearings - with your help. Geoff

Hi, yes the London Gazette is online . Just google London Gazette and work your way to the History bit and search the archive . But start earlier the first reference I found to Samuel comes on 14th March 1876, " In the county court of Norfolk held at Great Yarmouth in the matter of proceedings for liquidation by arrangement etc instituted by Samuel Matthews of Great Yarmouth , tailor . " The Norfolk Record Office has a possible document BR 164/26 , which mentions deeds re a tenement conveyed by Samuel Matthews to Bullard and sons , 1870 . And further reference in the same document of 6 rods of land in City St , Heigham , gardens in Union Place, Heigham but this is earlier 1843 . There may be more in The Bury and Norwich Post but the 19th C newspaper site has many references to Samuel Matthews .and it would take a dedicated eye to sift through them all . There may be more in the London Gazette too and under Mathews or Matthew or Saml , or variants . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "tam smith" <tamiwell@bigpond.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] fraud or business troubles 1880's > SAMUEL MATTHEWS, he was a tailor (worked in Great Yarmouth, then Heigham > Norfolk). Last known address was Heigham 1881 census. > Can you access the London gazette online? > Tam (Australia) > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:57 PM > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [NFK] fraud or business troubles 1880's > >> Hi , try the London Gazette , a lot of people went bankrupt >> ........had you let us know his name we might have helped further . >> >> >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "tam smith" <tamiwell@bigpond.com> >> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:49 PM >> Subject: [NFK] fraud or business troubles 1880's >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> I'm wondering if there was any way I could find out if my ancestor was >>> in >>> some kind of business trouble or fraud situation....did local newspapers >>> report on that kind of thing? I'm just curious as he travelled all the >>> way from Heigham Norfolk to Devon sometime between 1881 and 1891 and >>> changed his first name. It also seems business wasn't doing so well as >>> he >>> had moved his business from more of a high end area to a poorer area of >>> town prior to all of this. I'm just wondering if perhaps something went >>> wrong and he did a runner! >>> Thanks, >>> Tam : ) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi , try the London Gazette , a lot of people went bankrupt ........had you let us know his name we might have helped further . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "tam smith" <tamiwell@bigpond.com> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: [NFK] fraud or business troubles 1880's > Hello everyone, > I'm wondering if there was any way I could find out if my ancestor was in > some kind of business trouble or fraud situation....did local newspapers > report on that kind of thing? I'm just curious as he travelled all the > way from Heigham Norfolk to Devon sometime between 1881 and 1891 and > changed his first name. It also seems business wasn't doing so well as he > had moved his business from more of a high end area to a poorer area of > town prior to all of this. I'm just wondering if perhaps something went > wrong and he did a runner! > Thanks, > Tam : ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'd like to thank those of you who so kindly gave me the site to view online parish registers it is greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Betty Flood Looking for BUSH HOWARD FLOOD ORTON BLACKLING/BLACKCLOTH VINCENT

Have you checked your unusual names against those entered in the register of one name studies www.one-name.org Should your contacts prove to be negative perhaps you could consider helping those one name studies by providing whatever information you have in case it allows links to be established with other interested parties ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <familyflood@live.com> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:18 AM Subject: [NFK] FW: Parish records > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to thank those of you who so kindly gave me the site to view > online > parish registers it is greatly appreciated. > Kind regards, > Betty Flood > > Looking for BUSH HOWARD FLOOD ORTON BLACKLING/BLACKCLOTH VINCENT > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There are still Craske's in the area, both in Northrepps & Cromer. Frank, Cromer ________________________________ From: Keith Drage <drageke@ntlworld.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011 19:19:31 Subject: Re: [NFK] CRASK Family - Northrepps & Overstrand Do not be misled by the final "e". Certainly in Sheringham there are instances where it comes and goes even within the lifetime of the same person. Seems to depend on the whim of the officiating minister. Do remember that it is relatively recently that there has been a right and a wrong way of spelling things. Also do not rely on the IGI for this area. It's coverage for this area is relatively sparse and you will miss people if you rely only on IGI entries. I do have a tree drawn up by someone I corresponded with at least 15 years ago (and the tree is dated 1986) that shows the parents of John CRASK who married Susannah NEVE was born/baptised 31 DEC 1780, and was the son of Edmund CRASK (born / baptised 23 JAN 1748 in Sheringham) who married Mary Ann GREGORY (baptised 23 MAY 1756 in Overstrand) on 28 MAY 1776 in Cromer. Its all very conjectural before that. I've not verified any part of this tree because I was looking at a different twig (who married into my own ancestors). If the above is true, then this is the baptism entry from the Sheringham register: Edmund ye son of Nathaniel and Elizabeth CRASK; baptized Jan: ye 23: 1748 I can help you with more Sheringham entries for this name from the parish registers, if you manage to confirm yourself back to here. regards Keith Swindon UK > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Geoff Roosen > Sent: 13 September 2011 00:21 > To: NORFOLK@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] CRASK Family - Northrepps & Overstrand > > > Hello All, > > This is my first post to this list. I am Geoff Roosen from Melbourne, > Australia. > > On my mother's side - my gr-grandmother was Matilda Maud Crask, > baptised in > Overstrand and I am trying to get more definition into this side of the > family. > > I believe that the family was always Church of England. > > 1. From the IGI I have John Crask m. Susannah Neve in Jan 1807 in > Northrepps. Between 1807 & 1826, they had (at least) 11 > children, 3 of whom > emigrated to Australia and I have found a lot of info about them. > > My questions are..... > > - What would have been the name of the church that John & Susannah married > in and these 11 were baptised in ? > - does the building from this period still exist ? > > > 2. One of John and Susannah's children, James William Crask m. > Ann Susannah > Emery. They had (at least) 8 children all baptised in Overstrand. > > Again..... > > - What would have been the name of the church that these 8 were > baptised in > ? > - does the building from this period still exist ? > > > My Crasks, at least back to John bap 1769 have no "e" but I can see that > Craske is also common in the area. There are probably cross-links that I > don't yet understand. > > I would be very pleased to hear from any Lister who has an interest in the > Crask(e) familes. > > Thanks > Geoff > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do not be misled by the final "e". Certainly in Sheringham there are instances where it comes and goes even within the lifetime of the same person. Seems to depend on the whim of the officiating minister. Do remember that it is relatively recently that there has been a right and a wrong way of spelling things. Also do not rely on the IGI for this area. It's coverage for this area is relatively sparse and you will miss people if you rely only on IGI entries. I do have a tree drawn up by someone I corresponded with at least 15 years ago (and the tree is dated 1986) that shows the parents of John CRASK who married Susannah NEVE was born/baptised 31 DEC 1780, and was the son of Edmund CRASK (born / baptised 23 JAN 1748 in Sheringham) who married Mary Ann GREGORY (baptised 23 MAY 1756 in Overstrand) on 28 MAY 1776 in Cromer. Its all very conjectural before that. I've not verified any part of this tree because I was looking at a different twig (who married into my own ancestors). If the above is true, then this is the baptism entry from the Sheringham register: Edmund ye son of Nathaniel and Elizabeth CRASK; baptized Jan: ye 23: 1748 I can help you with more Sheringham entries for this name from the parish registers, if you manage to confirm yourself back to here. regards Keith Swindon UK > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Geoff Roosen > Sent: 13 September 2011 00:21 > To: NORFOLK@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] CRASK Family - Northrepps & Overstrand > > > Hello All, > > This is my first post to this list. I am Geoff Roosen from Melbourne, > Australia. > > On my mother's side - my gr-grandmother was Matilda Maud Crask, > baptised in > Overstrand and I am trying to get more definition into this side of the > family. > > I believe that the family was always Church of England. > > 1. From the IGI I have John Crask m. Susannah Neve in Jan 1807 in > Northrepps. Between 1807 & 1826, they had (at least) 11 > children, 3 of whom > emigrated to Australia and I have found a lot of info about them. > > My questions are..... > > - What would have been the name of the church that John & Susannah married > in and these 11 were baptised in ? > - does the building from this period still exist ? > > > 2. One of John and Susannah's children, James William Crask m. > Ann Susannah > Emery. They had (at least) 8 children all baptised in Overstrand. > > Again..... > > - What would have been the name of the church that these 8 were > baptised in > ? > - does the building from this period still exist ? > > > My Crasks, at least back to John bap 1769 have no "e" but I can see that > Craske is also common in the area. There are probably cross-links that I > don't yet understand. > > I would be very pleased to hear from any Lister who has an interest in the > Crask(e) familes. > > Thanks > Geoff > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G’day I have been overseas for the past 3 months. Before I left I was able to search Norfolk Parish records online. Since I have returned I am unable to find the site. Would some kind person please let me know where I can find this site againl. Kind regards, Betty Flood

You will have seen from the Norfolk Churches website mentioned by other respondents that the church in Northrepps does still exist The situation in Overstrand is more complicated. The medieval church dedicated to St Martin fell into the sea and a new churchyard created a little further inland; in the nineteenth century the church was again in ruins and was replaced by Christ Church (in the same churchyard). The church that you see today is a rebuilt St Martin's, including some features from the older church, and Christ Church was demolished. (The Methodist church was not built until after the period you are interested in.) I recommend Poppyland's excellent DVD "Overstrand - Our Village" which includes a visual reconstruction of Overstrand as it was in 1838. Some of the photographs in the same publishere's booklet "Poppyland - Strands of Norfolk History" may be of interest too, and there is limited background material in my own "Dictionary of Cromer and Overstrand History", though none of the Crask(e) family is mentioned. For details of these publications see www.poppyland.co.uk; you may well also find it worth searching the Cromer Museum website at http://www.culturalmodes.norfolk.gov.uk/projects/nmaspub5.asp making sure you start your search by choosing "Cromer local history and geology" from the drop-down list. -- Christopher Pipe BA DipLib MCLIP researching and indexing Norfolk history cp@wmk.demon.co.uk -----Original Message----- . . . On my mother's side - my gr-grandmother was Matilda Maud Crask, baptised in Overstrand and I am trying to get more definition into this side of the family. I believe that the family was always Church of England. 1. From the IGI I have John Crask m. Susannah Neve in Jan 1807 in Northrepps. Between 1807 & 1826, they had (at least) 11 children, 3 of whom emigrated to Australia and I have found a lot of info about them. My questions are..... - What would have been the name of the church that John & Susannah married in and these 11 were baptised in ? - does the building from this period still exist ? 2. One of John and Susannah's children, James William Crask m. Ann Susannah Emery. They had (at least) 8 children all baptised in Overstrand. Again..... - What would have been the name of the church that these 8 were baptised in ? - does the building from this period still exist ? My Crasks, at least back to John bap 1769 have no "e" but I can see that Craske is also common in the area. There are probably cross-links that I don't yet understand. I would be very pleased to hear from any Lister who has an interest in the Crask(e) familes. Thanks Geoff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Geoff, The marriage is listed on FreeREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl 13 January 1807 John CRASK, bachelor Susan NEVE, spinster (signed Susanna Neve) St Mary the Virgin, North Repps There are seven of the children also on FreeREG baptised at North Repps. St Mary's, Northrepps - http://www.norfolkchurches.co.uk/northrepps/northrepps.htm On FreeREG, only the baptism of George Emery CRASK appears at Overstrand (St Martin's) - http://www.norfolkchurches.co.uk/overstrand/overstrand.htm Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > 1. From the IGI I have John Crask m. Susannah Neve in Jan 1807 in > Northrepps. Between 1807 & 1826, they had (at least) 11 children, 3 of > whom > emigrated to Australia and I have found a lot of info about them. > - What would have been the name of the church that John & Susannah married > in and these 11 were baptised in ? > - does the building from this period still exist ? > 2. One of John and Susannah's children, James William Crask m. Ann > Susannah > Emery. They had (at least) 8 children all baptised in Overstrand. > - What would have been the name of the church that these 8 were baptised > in > - does the building from this period still exist ? > Geoff

Hello All, This is my first post to this list. I am Geoff Roosen from Melbourne, Australia. On my mother's side - my gr-grandmother was Matilda Maud Crask, baptised in Overstrand and I am trying to get more definition into this side of the family. I believe that the family was always Church of England. 1. From the IGI I have John Crask m. Susannah Neve in Jan 1807 in Northrepps. Between 1807 & 1826, they had (at least) 11 children, 3 of whom emigrated to Australia and I have found a lot of info about them. My questions are..... - What would have been the name of the church that John & Susannah married in and these 11 were baptised in ? - does the building from this period still exist ? 2. One of John and Susannah's children, James William Crask m. Ann Susannah Emery. They had (at least) 8 children all baptised in Overstrand. Again..... - What would have been the name of the church that these 8 were baptised in ? - does the building from this period still exist ? My Crasks, at least back to John bap 1769 have no "e" but I can see that Craske is also common in the area. There are probably cross-links that I don't yet understand. I would be very pleased to hear from any Lister who has an interest in the Crask(e) familes. Thanks Geoff

I have some Craskes in my tree. Hains Craske 1741-1797 married Ann Bird (b.1772, my 4x aunt) and had a daughter Harriet May Craske (B 1787). He was a wool comber. Source: Sculthorpe parish registers. Hains's parents were Robert Craske and Martha Spence. Hope it helps Peter Bird On 13/09/2011 08:00, norfolk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Elizabeth BLAND, Kirstead (David Booty) > 2. Re: Subject Lines (E Gail Benjafield) > 3. CRASK Family - Northrepps& Overstrand (Geoff Roosen) > 4. Re: CRASK Family - Northrepps& Overstrand (Rosemary Jones) > 5. Re: CRASK Family - Northrepps& Overstrand (Pam Downes) > 6. Re: CRASK Family - Northrepps& Overstrand (symonds3) > 7. Parish records (Betty) > 8. Re: Parish records (David Cullingford) > > > To contact the NORFOLK list administrator, send an email to > NORFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NORFOLK mailing list, send an email to NORFOLK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text.

Betty, The pilot run ended so the parish records are now part of the main site. If David's link does not work, go to www.familysearch.org which will take you to a main search page, scroll down to the Browse by location, click on Europe which will take you to the historical records collection page where you can scroll down to find the Norfolk parish registers and carry on from there. Rosie On 13/09/2011 07:15, David Cullingford wrote: > Easy > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&region=EUROPE > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Betty > Date: 09/13/11 06:41:40 > To: NORFOLK@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Parish records > > G’day > > I have been overseas for the past 3 months. Before I left I was able to > search Norfolk Parish records online. Since I have returned I am unable > to find the site. Would some kind person please let me know where I can > find this site againl. > > Kind regards, > Betty Flood > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Easy https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&region=EUROPE -------Original Message------- From: Betty Date: 09/13/11 06:41:40 To: NORFOLK@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Parish records G’day I have been overseas for the past 3 months. Before I left I was able to search Norfolk Parish records online. Since I have returned I am unable to find the site. Would some kind person please let me know where I can find this site againl. Kind regards, Betty Flood ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Geoff, Welcome to the list. Try Simon's excellent Norfolk churches site for pictures and information. http://www.norfolkchurches.co.uk/mainpage.htm With Overstrand I would think you will need Overstrand, and not Overstrand Methodist. With regard to the different spellings of Crask and Craske, spelling wasn't standardised until the end of the 1800s, and prior to that the vicar could spell a name one way on Monday and spell it differently on Tuesday, so I would be very much inclined to record all instances of the name that you find at the moment (especially as Crask is not a common name in the UK, though it may be prolific in certain areas). Some of the parish registers for Overstand and North Repps are online at https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/collection/1416598/waypoints Pam On 13/09/2011 00:21, Geoff Roosen wrote: > Hello All, > > This is my first post to this list. I am Geoff Roosen from Melbourne, > Australia. > > On my mother's side - my gr-grandmother was Matilda Maud Crask, baptised in > Overstrand and I am trying to get more definition into this side of the > family. > > I believe that the family was always Church of England. > > 1. From the IGI I have John Crask m. Susannah Neve in Jan 1807 in > Northrepps. Between 1807& 1826, they had (at least) 11 children, 3 of whom > emigrated to Australia and I have found a lot of info about them. > > My questions are..... > > - What would have been the name of the church that John& Susannah married > in and these 11 were baptised in ? > - does the building from this period still exist ? > > > 2. One of John and Susannah's children, James William Crask m. Ann Susannah > Emery. They had (at least) 8 children all baptised in Overstrand. > > Again..... > > - What would have been the name of the church that these 8 were baptised in > ? > - does the building from this period still exist ? > > > My Crasks, at least back to John bap 1769 have no "e" but I can see that > Craske is also common in the area. There are probably cross-links that I > don't yet understand. > > I would be very pleased to hear from any Lister who has an interest in the > Crask(e) familes. > > Thanks > Geoff > > > > ------------------------------- >