Hi David, Thanks very much for confirming that James and Charles were brothers, that's good to know. I will tell my cousin that the relevent images are online and he may like to download them for his records. With grateful thanks, Jon
Hi Gay, As you may have seen in my reply to Trish, Emily was born at Hardley or Langley according to census entries. I feel confident as she couldn't sign her name, that verbally telling the person her name could well have been misheard or misunderstood, or maybe she even decided to change it from Amy to Emily, stranger things have happened. I'm definitely not ruling it out though, that's for certain. This info I'm attempting to dig up is for a cousin of mine who only knew that his maternal great grandmother's maiden name was FAIRHEAD, he knew nothing more than that. I do know that his immediate family went to Australia, but as he knows nothing of the FAIRHEAD family then I don't know if there is an Australian link there, sorry. Many thannks for your reply, kindest regards, Jon
Hi Trish, Thanks very much for your reply. According to census entries, Emily's birthplace was Hardley (in 1851 and 1871), and Langley (in 1861). Her birth year was given as 1793 (in 1861 and 1871), and 1794 (in 1851). I'm not very familiar at all with the parishes of Norfolk, so I don't know whether these birthplaces would match any of the records you have found? Very many thanks for your time and help, it's appreciated. Kindest regards, Jon
On 2011/09/28 11:29, AlsDoughty@aol.com wrote: > l looked on freebdm there is a marriage of a JAMES FAIRHEAD to a AMY WRIGHT > ,13 FEB 1815 in LODDON with a PHOEBE WRIGHT and ROBERT FAIRHEAD as a > witness > dont know if this helps, propebly not Er.... 1815 is prior to the start of Civil Registration in 1837. So, FreeBMD will not have a reference. FreeREG might :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg
Thanks, David. I have not done much research on the FAIRHEAD family so far and only looked at the PR images on Family Search. Jon doesn't actually say that James was born/baptised in Mundham, although I did assume that it was likely that he came from there. Best wishes, Gerry On 28 Sep 2011, at 13:59, David Booty wrote: > I transcribed the Mundham PRs and ATs and these are available to everyone on FreeREG, where you can see that James and Charles FAIRHEAD were brothers. Images of the original registers are available on the FamilySearch site. > > David > > > ________________________________ > From: Gerry Newnham <gerry@kiltie.net> > To: jons.fh@btinternet.com > Cc: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011, 13:47 > Subject: [NFK] FAIRHEAD Family > > Jon, > > I have a Charles FAIRHEAD marrying Lydia TILLETT in Mundham, 14 Feb 1809. His parents were John & Helen[a] (nee HILARY?) and he was baptised in Mundham on 30 Jan 1785. Is there any connection to James FAIRHEAD do you think? > > Best wishes, > > Gerry > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I transcribed the Mundham PRs and ATs and these are available to everyone on FreeREG, where you can see that James and Charles FAIRHEAD were brothers. Images of the original registers are available on the FamilySearch site. David ________________________________ From: Gerry Newnham <gerry@kiltie.net> To: jons.fh@btinternet.com Cc: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011, 13:47 Subject: [NFK] FAIRHEAD Family Jon, I have a Charles FAIRHEAD marrying Lydia TILLETT in Mundham, 14 Feb 1809. His parents were John & Helen[a] (nee HILARY?) and he was baptised in Mundham on 30 Jan 1785. Is there any connection to James FAIRHEAD do you think? Best wishes, Gerry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Jon, I have a Charles FAIRHEAD marrying Lydia TILLETT in Mundham, 14 Feb 1809. His parents were John & Helen[a] (nee HILARY?) and he was baptised in Mundham on 30 Jan 1785. Is there any connection to James FAIRHEAD do you think? Best wishes, Gerry
Hi Alison, Thanks so much! The timing would be correct, as would the location, I wonder if there was some sort of error with Amy's name somehow? Robert and Phoebe were the names given to James and Emily's children, so that could well indicate that the one witness Robert was James' father or brother, and Phoebe could have been Emily or Amy's mother or sister. Do you have any idea if Emily/Amy signed her name, or if she marked with an x? Maybe the person who recorded the marriage misheard her name and wrote Amy instead of Emily? It certainly seems to fit, even the Wright surname....... sincerest thannks for your help. Jon
Hi Sheila, Thanks for your help. they definitely wouldn't have married prior to 1801 as Emily would have been a child. James was said to be 83 when he died in 1869, giving an approx birth year of 1786, and it appears that Emily was born about 1793 according to census entries. Thanks once again, best wishes, Jon
I've checked the Norfolk Marriage CD 1801-1837 and there's no entry for a James Fairhead to an Emily. So they either married outside of Norfolk, or before 1801. Sorry I couldn't help. Sheila ________________________________ From: Jon's FH <jons.fh@btinternet.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 28 September, 2011 10:02:56 Subject: [NFK] The FAIRHEAD Family Hi everyone, I've been looking for the marriage of James FAIRHEAD to a lady named Emily. Their children were Robert 1816, Phoebe 1819, Christmas 1826, Maria 1828 and John 1830, the children being born at Mundham and Thurton. On the new style familysearch.org website, Robert's mother is recorded as Emily Wright, but Phoebe's mother is recorded as Emily Owens Fairhead. Can anyone clarify these details for me please? As I'm totally blind, I'm unable to view images to clarify these details for myself, so any help that can be given would be deeply appreciated. James died in 1869. Emily was still alive in the 1871 census and living with her sister Maria Wright, aged 78 and 82 respectively. Is anyone tracing this family, or can anyone shed light on James and Emily's marriage please? The line of interest is through their son Christmas FAIRHEAD. Kindest regards, Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi everyone, I've been looking for the marriage of James FAIRHEAD to a lady named Emily. Their children were Robert 1816, Phoebe 1819, Christmas 1826, Maria 1828 and John 1830, the children being born at Mundham and Thurton. On the new style familysearch.org website, Robert's mother is recorded as Emily Wright, but Phoebe's mother is recorded as Emily Owens Fairhead. Can anyone clarify these details for me please? As I'm totally blind, I'm unable to view images to clarify these details for myself, so any help that can be given would be deeply appreciated. James died in 1869. Emily was still alive in the 1871 census and living with her sister Maria Wright, aged 78 and 82 respectively. Is anyone tracing this family, or can anyone shed light on James and Emily's marriage please? The line of interest is through their son Christmas FAIRHEAD. Kindest regards, Jon
Hello Sheila, Looking at records I think that she was probably the niece of Rosa Selina Burrage who died on the railway line at Belton in 1889. When her body was found she had given birth to a son who was brought up, in Belton, by my great-grandparents John Francis and Mary Ann (nee Smith) Platford. The baby was called Reginald and I think he became a tram/bus driver in London. There are newspaper reports of the death if you need them to add to your records, but unfortunately I do not have copies. Best wishes, Heather Chairman S.E.Branch - Essex Society for Family History -----Original Message----- From: Diane Johansen [mailto:lizzy.johansen@btinternet.com] Sent: 23 September 2011 21:25 To: NORFOLK@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Annie Maria BURRAGE Hello Sheila - it's a long time since we corresponded! I found your Annie mistranscribed as "Annei Marua Burrage" (believe it or not). She is a servant, age 16, born Burgh Castle, living with William John MUSSON and his wife Edith at 57 High Road, Southtown, Great Yarmouth. William was a Primitive Methodist Minister. Best wishes Diane J. (Still researching - but not so often - CLARKE, COBB, ABSOLON, SHEPPARD and others at Burgh Castle 18th/19th Centuries) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:38:52 +0100 (BST) From: P HUTCHINSON <paul.sheila844@btinternet.com> Subject: [NFK] Annie Maria Burrage To: NORFOLK@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1316792332.37266.YahooMailClassic@web87206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I am unable to find Annie Maria Burrage in the 1911 census. Has anyone come across her? Please let me know. She was born Burgh Castle 21 June 1894 and was listed in 1901 census as living at Burgh Castle. age 6 I have not been able to find her baptism in the Burgh Castle parish records. Any suggestions please. Thanks Sheila Hutchinson
Hi Jon if you look at familysearch parish records the original is there it does look as tho JAMES signed himself but she signed with a X Glad to be of help any time Alison In a message dated 28/09/2011 10:43:31 GMT Daylight Time, jons.fh@btinternet.com writes: Hi Alison, Thanks so much! The timing would be correct, as would the location, I wonder if there was some sort of error with Amy's name somehow? Robert and Phoebe were the names given to James and Emily's children, so that could well indicate that the one witness Robert was James' father or brother, and Phoebe could have been Emily or Amy's mother or sister. Do you have any idea if Emily/Amy signed her name, or if she marked with an x? Maybe the person who recorded the marriage misheard her name and wrote Amy instead of Emily? It certainly seems to fit, even the Wright surname....... sincerest thannks for your help. Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
l looked on freebdm there is a marriage of a JAMES FAIRHEAD to a AMY WRIGHT ,13 FEB 1815 in LODDON with a PHOEBE WRIGHT and ROBERT FAIRHEAD as a witness dont know if this helps, propebly not Regards Alison In a message dated 28/09/2011 10:04:57 GMT Daylight Time, jons.fh@btinternet.com writes: Hi everyone, I've been looking for the marriage of James FAIRHEAD to a lady named Emily. Their children were Robert 1816, Phoebe 1819, Christmas 1826, Maria 1828 and John 1830, the children being born at Mundham and Thurton. On the new style familysearch.org website, Robert's mother is recorded as Emily Wright, but Phoebe's mother is recorded as Emily Owens Fairhead. Can anyone clarify these details for me please? As I'm totally blind, I'm unable to view images to clarify these details for myself, so any help that can be given would be deeply appreciated. James died in 1869. Emily was still alive in the 1871 census and living with her sister Maria Wright, aged 78 and 82 respectively. Is anyone tracing this family, or can anyone shed light on James and Emily's marriage please? The line of interest is through their son Christmas FAIRHEAD. Kindest regards, Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Another batch of surnames extracted from the earliest register for the parish indicated, with all the same caveats as provided with Part 1. Brian Sisland - Wrongry Seething - Westgate, Kettill, Wolfey, Loveledge, Clarke Kirby Cane - Bonefolde, Shelton, Hare, Godbold Ellingham Town - Puttork, Newstead Tibenham - Seaman, Buxton, Neave Wacton - Pudding Brooke - Jenkinson, Ryberd, Tynke, Yalop Kirstead with Langhall - Love, Muffet, Seaman Thorpe-Abbots - Laws, Auger, Bassy, Wales, Ladyman Stockton - Youngman, Stone, Skelton, Pratt Geldeston - Tongett Crownthorpe - Blanchflower, Lincoln Carleton Forehoe - Gooch Yelverton - Smythe, Wormguy Shotesham AS - Stone, Goldsmith, Crickmor, Curson Shotesham St. Mary - Mortimer Stiffkey - Powditch, Shorting, Newbegin Stiffkey (again, but coverage is different and seems to be St. John the Baptist) - Paternoster, Margetson, Framingham, Greve, Pinchen, Page Plumstead St. Michael - Belton, Bryant Hellington near Loddon - Killett, Seaman, Baker Rockland St. Mary - Gedge, Berkett, Davye, Punt Reepham with Kirdestone and Whitwell - Breese, Pentyne, Southgate Walcott - Drake, Flaxman, Bullock, Calfe, Fox, Page Carbrooke - Wynter, Browne, George, Skott Marlingford - Hubbard, Harris, Bobbett, Vincen[t] New Houghton - Walpole Belaugh - Puttock, Emmes Tasburgh - Puddling, Reynolde, Alexander, Hartley Fritton - Meek, Page, Ellis, Sayer Gillingham St. Mary with Andrew - Harvey, Barthelude, Blank, Harris Gillingham AS - Cooke, Freeman Gillingham St. Mary [? - probably] - Gorbold, Harris, Parkinson East Walton - Platfoot, Croxton, Ellis West Winch - Reade, Cocke, Motley Cockthorpe - Calthorpe, Wymer
good idea! > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:37:01 -0400 > From: egailb@sympatico.ca > To: NORFOLK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Surname in Subject line pls > > Just for the sake of users of lists, please try to put the surname > sought in the subject line, so that those of us not looking for those by > the surname came skip it. General subjects likke "how to use the > Norfolk index" or 'new Norfolk useful site" are always worth looking at, > but others .... not so much. I believe Mark The Magnificent on this > site, would agree. I hope I am not just being a Cranky Canadian. If > so, I accept the moniker. > > Gail B. in St. C. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I've been collecting FINCHAM information for a number of years now and sorting it out into family groups. I've just updated the summary information as a word document accessible from a webpage at: http://www.keithdrage.webspace.virginmedia.com Comments, questions, additional information, new contacts welcome. Please note that this is work in progress, and in no way represents a complete collection of data. regards Keith Swindon UK
Thank you List for the 2 replies, both very helpful. Dina
Hello Stephanie, If you are looking for COBBs in Norfolk, there is a whole battallion of them who are descended from Edmund Cobb and Rebecca COLE, at Morley St Botolph. Edmund died in 1821. They had 20 children, so there are people of COBB descendancy all over the world. Sadly, my ancestry is through their eldest daughter, Rebecca, who married Charles CALLOW, so I can't offer any DNA, but I'm sure there are lots of "real" COBBs around in various places. Mostly, they are descended from Edmund's son, Stephen. If I can be of more help let me know. Rita Sheridan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Ray" <netnuevo@gmail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: [NFK] COBB surname DNA project > The Cobb & Cobbs surname DNA project is well along, but currently it > has a focus on the American descendants of English immigrants. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cobb/ > > So far, we have found roughly nine genetically distinct families > bearing the name, including the following: > > Descendants of Ambrose Cobbs of Kent and Virginia > Descendants of Joseph Cobb of London and Isle of Wight, Virginia > Descendants of Nicholas Cobb of London and Isle of Wight, Virginia > "Elder" Henry Cobb of Barnstable, Massachusetts > > I myself am of the Joseph Cobb line. Evidently, he was a dissident and > puritan, and named his three sons Joseph, Pharaoh, and Benjamin, as in > the biblical story Joseph and the Coat of Many Colors. I believe that > he may have been from Norfolk (see > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/cobb.html). > > At this time we are seeking participants from Ye Olde Country to help > us learn more about the name and its distribution. One primary > question is whether all nine lineages are still extent in England, or > whether some have died out (or, for that matter, that there are ones > that we have no evidence of here in the US). > > We are working with both Ancestry 149/179USD > (http://www.tinyurl.com/cobbdna) and FTDNA 169/268/359USD > (http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/cobb/results). We would greatly > appreciate having this information passed along to any biological > males bearing the Cobb name! > > Thank you, > Stephanie > > Admin Cobb surname FTDNA > Guild of One Name Studies #5587 > >
Rita, hi, thank you so much for your reply! It is a real thrill to actually meet someone still living in Norfolk. I live in California, in the San Francisco bay area at this time. Ok, one nice thing is that you only need two (or at most three) men out of each family group to provide a sample (the third may be needed as a tie-breaker in case the first two do not match for some reason, perhaps because of, ahem, "a paternity event"). Those two (or three) should be enough to establish a baseline set of DNA for that particular family. That is good because, while the tests are relatively inexpensive, they are by no means free! The cheapest one (33 markers through Ancestry) is 149USD. If someone is willing to submit a sample, but doesn't have the funds, we can pass the hat around and collect the funds to pay for the test. Do you know any living Cobb men yourself? I was going to do a mailing to all the Cobbs I could find living in Norfolk according to 192.com, but I think a local person doing the asking would be much better! Best regards, Stephanie On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Rita Sheridan <ras@sheriwin.plus.com> wrote: > > Hello Stephanie, > If you are looking for COBBs in Norfolk, there is a whole battallion of > them who are descended from Edmund Cobb and Rebecca COLE, at Morley St > Botolph. Edmund died in 1821. They had 20 children, so there are people of > COBB descendancy all over the world. Sadly, my ancestry is through their > eldest daughter, Rebecca, who married Charles CALLOW, so I can't offer any > DNA, but I'm sure there are lots of "real" COBBs around in various places. > Mostly, they are descended from Edmund's son, Stephen. > If I can be of more help let me know. > Rita Sheridan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephanie Ray" <netnuevo@gmail.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:32 PM > Subject: [NFK] COBB surname DNA project > > >> The Cobb & Cobbs surname DNA project is well along, but currently it >> has a focus on the American descendants of English immigrants. >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cobb/ >> >> So far, we have found roughly nine genetically distinct families >> bearing the name, including the following: >> >> Descendants of Ambrose Cobbs of Kent and Virginia >> Descendants of Joseph Cobb of London and Isle of Wight, Virginia >> Descendants of Nicholas Cobb of London and Isle of Wight, Virginia >> "Elder" Henry Cobb of Barnstable, Massachusetts >> >> I myself am of the Joseph Cobb line. Evidently, he was a dissident and >> puritan, and named his three sons Joseph, Pharaoh, and Benjamin, as in >> the biblical story Joseph and the Coat of Many Colors. I believe that >> he may have been from Norfolk (see >> http://www.one-name.org/profiles/cobb.html). >> >> At this time we are seeking participants from Ye Olde Country to help >> us learn more about the name and its distribution. One primary >> question is whether all nine lineages are still extent in England, or >> whether some have died out (or, for that matter, that there are ones >> that we have no evidence of here in the US). >> >> We are working with both Ancestry 149/179USD >> (http://www.tinyurl.com/cobbdna) and FTDNA 169/268/359USD >> (http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/cobb/results). We would greatly >> appreciate having this information passed along to any biological >> males bearing the Cobb name! >> >> Thank you, >> Stephanie >> >> Admin Cobb surname FTDNA >> Guild of One Name Studies #5587 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >