Purely on the basis of the cluster of Gager births in the late 1700s Downham Market on FreeReg to at least two different fathers perhaps Downham Market and working through the villages outwards from there to check just in case Gager has been mis transcribed somewhere so it is not showing up on any index. ( it looks a name which is easy to transcribe/easy to mis spell. I wonder if there is any clue in how it is pronounced-is it Dutch or German in origin?) Did you not have any luck checking the Tilney All Saints/ St Lawrence actual records rather than the transcripts Karen? From Rootsweb board It looks as if you are not the only one looking-http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,536209.0.html Seeking a possible place of origin from trade and commerce routes is a bit of a scatter gun-even in the War of the Roses the Pastons from Caister were trotting up and down between London . If you had a trade in mind it could be a clue though-a waterman might be going to and from Ely for instance. Rosie On 26/10/2011 11:02, Karen Hodges wrote: > I am still looking for the marriage of Richard Gager and Susanna > [surname unknown] taking place between 1765-1768. I would like to > learn more about the area, where people travel to, from King Lynn and > those coming to the area where they most likely arrived from. > > Richard was living in King Lynn [1764-65& 1768-1779] which I know was > a major sea port. I am interested in hearing about any transport > route in the 1760's ship, canals, roads that people may have travel > regularly on to /from King Lynn area for employment or family. > Karen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I saw Elizabeth Howard answering email about a Wendling marriage just had to email list and tell of my feeling of deja vu. My gggrandmother Elizabeth HOWARD was baptised in Wendling in 1817. She is the daughter of Jeremiah & Mary BUSH (nee FLOOD) She married Richard HOWARD in Great Fransham in 1835 Would love to hear from any descendants. Kind regards, Mrs Betty Floodfamilyflood@live.com > From: elizabeth howardelizgh@btinternet.com > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:02:50 +0100 > Subject: [NFK] Wendling marriages 1844 > > Hi freebmd has a marriage of Zachariah Rocket ( one t ) to > Ann Beavers ( the only Ann in the list ) in the Dec 1/4 of 1844 reg dist > Mitford , vol 13 , p 645 . > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:15 PM > Subject: [NFK] Wendling marriages 1844 > > > >I have recently found that a marriage I have on my tree may be wrong. I > >have > > the date and place of this marriage between Zachariah Rockett and Ann > > Allen > > taking place in Wendling 9 December 1844. > > The problem is that I have been advised that the brides surname was > > Beavers > > and not Allen. I did not note the source of the information, this was from > > years ago, and now cannot find it again. I can find the marriage between > > Rockett and Beavers but not my original. I must have seen it somewhere or > > I > > would not have a date! > > I have looked on Family Search but the Wendling registers aren't there for > > that date, either in images or in the main search engine, nor on the > > Norfolk > > Transcriptions or Freereg. > > Help. > > > > Jan > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Julie, Elizabeth and Maureen who reminded me that I could find my lost Capps family on FreeReg which I had temporarily forgotten to try. duh! Thanks again wonderful list members. Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Harold" <freereg.norfolk@gmail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] John & Charlotte Capps of Watlington > They should be on Freereg : > http://www.freereg.org.uk/parishes/nfk/w.shtml#1 > > search at http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl > > Julie > On 24 October 2011 13:03, Marg & Neil Andrews <margay@tadaust.org.au> > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> I am looking for the children of JOHN & CHARLOTTE CAPPS (nee Clark) who >> were married in 1820. >> I accidentally deleted them all while trying to merge a duplicate entry >> on >> Paf !! >> I know of a daughter Sarah b abt 1825 who married William Docking, but >> I lost the other children's names and dob's. >> >> The IGI didn't give much joy unfortunately ! >> Any suggestions or is anyone else researching Docking or Capps???? >> >> Marg in Oz >>

Hi, its a very common name sadly ......!!! I would like to hear from someone somewhere how to untangle all the Thomas Howards b c 1760 in St Albans , Herts ....!!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Flood" <familyflood@live.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] Wendling marriages 1844 > > When I saw Elizabeth Howard answering email about a Wendling marriage just > had to email list and tell of my feeling of deja vu. My gggrandmother > Elizabeth HOWARD was baptised in Wendling in 1817. She is the daughter > of Jeremiah & Mary BUSH (nee FLOOD) She married Richard HOWARD in Great > Fransham in 1835 Would love to hear from any descendants. Kind regards, > Mrs Betty Floodfamilyflood@live.com > > From: elizabeth howardelizgh@btinternet.com >> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:02:50 +0100 >> Subject: [NFK] Wendling marriages 1844 >> >> Hi freebmd has a marriage of Zachariah Rocket ( one t ) to >> Ann Beavers ( the only Ann in the list ) in the Dec 1/4 of 1844 reg dist >> Mitford , vol 13 , p 645 . >> >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> >> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:15 PM >> Subject: [NFK] Wendling marriages 1844 >> >> >> >I have recently found that a marriage I have on my tree may be wrong. I >> >have >> > the date and place of this marriage between Zachariah Rockett and Ann >> > Allen >> > taking place in Wendling 9 December 1844. >> > The problem is that I have been advised that the brides surname was >> > Beavers >> > and not Allen. I did not note the source of the information, this was >> > from >> > years ago, and now cannot find it again. I can find the marriage >> > between >> > Rockett and Beavers but not my original. I must have seen it somewhere >> > or >> > I >> > would not have a date! >> > I have looked on Family Search but the Wendling registers aren't there >> > for >> > that date, either in images or in the main search engine, nor on the >> > Norfolk >> > Transcriptions or Freereg. >> > Help. >> > >> > Jan >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi MargThey are on Free reg http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.plMaureen> From: margay@tadaust.org.au > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:03:00 +1000 > Subject: [NFK] John & Charlotte Capps of Watlington > > Hi everyone, > I am looking for the children of JOHN & CHARLOTTE CAPPS (nee Clark) who > were married in 1820. > I accidentally deleted them all while trying to merge a duplicate entry on Paf !! > I know of a daughter Sarah b abt 1825 who married William Docking, but > I lost the other children's names and dob's. > > The IGI didn't give much joy unfortunately ! > Any suggestions or is anyone else researching Docking or Capps???? > > Marg in Oz > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone, I am looking for the children of JOHN & CHARLOTTE CAPPS (nee Clark) who were married in 1820. I accidentally deleted them all while trying to merge a duplicate entry on Paf !! I know of a daughter Sarah b abt 1825 who married William Docking, but I lost the other children's names and dob's. The IGI didn't give much joy unfortunately ! Any suggestions or is anyone else researching Docking or Capps???? Marg in Oz

Hi I can see the children bapt in Watlington , Thomas Sept 1821 , son of John and Charlotte Capps, wheelwright , Sarah , Feb 1824 , and John is described as carpenter . In the 1851 census Charlotte is b Magdalen , so perhaps the marriage was found in one of the Wiggenhall parishes . John is dead between 1841 and 1851 . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg & Neil Andrews" <margay@tadaust.org.au> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: [NFK] John & Charlotte Capps of Watlington > Hi everyone, > I am looking for the children of JOHN & CHARLOTTE CAPPS (nee Clark) who > were married in 1820. > I accidentally deleted them all while trying to merge a duplicate entry on > Paf !! > I know of a daughter Sarah b abt 1825 who married William Docking, but > I lost the other children's names and dob's. > > The IGI didn't give much joy unfortunately ! > Any suggestions or is anyone else researching Docking or Capps???? > > Marg in Oz > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

They should be on Freereg : http://www.freereg.org.uk/parishes/nfk/w.shtml#1 search at http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl Julie On 24 October 2011 13:03, Marg & Neil Andrews <margay@tadaust.org.au> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I am looking for the children of JOHN & CHARLOTTE CAPPS (nee Clark) who > were married in 1820. > I accidentally deleted them all while trying to merge a duplicate entry on > Paf !! > I know of a daughter Sarah b abt 1825 who married William Docking, but > I lost the other children's names and dob's. > > The IGI didn't give much joy unfortunately ! > Any suggestions or is anyone else researching Docking or Capps???? > > Marg in Oz > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Julie Harold FreeREG Norfolk Coordinator freereg.norfolk@gmail.com http://www.freereg.org.uk/parishes/nfk/frontpage.shtml

Many thanks for that!! Also i have finally found it in the Parish Registers, in a separate section for pauper burials, away from the main burials!! Next stop is the baptism from 1780/1. Thank you very much. Jan -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Jones Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:50 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] baptism requirements FreeREG indicates that it came from the Archdeacon's Transcripts for St Mary's Beeston and that's where I found it. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-12987-12322-42?cc=1824688&wc=6894989 Rosemary On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Jan Rockett <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com>wrote: > After a weekend of an 18th birthday party followed by an extremely lazy, > but > well deserved day I think I am being driven around the twist by a baptism > and burial that are invisible!! > I have the following from family search > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MZJC-V34/p2 > It is a burial for Isaac Marham. I have looked through the images of the > Beeston burials as well as the Mileham burials and nothing. Neither can I > find his baptism in either church. > The family started in Mileham and continued in Beeston. Plenty of children > and their subsequent deaths but no Isaac. > > Could someone please take a look for me and put me out of my misery?? > It looks very genuine and informative so doubt they invented it!!! > > Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry wrong title!! Jan -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rockett Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:33 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] baptism requirements After a weekend of an 18th birthday party followed by an extremely lazy, but well deserved day I think I am being driven around the twist by a baptism and burial that are invisible!! I have the following from family search https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MZJC-V34/p2 It is a burial for Isaac Marham. I have looked through the images of the Beeston burials as well as the Mileham burials and nothing. Neither can I find his baptism in either church. The family started in Mileham and continued in Beeston. Plenty of children and their subsequent deaths but no Isaac. Could someone please take a look for me and put me out of my misery?? It looks very genuine and informative so doubt they invented it!!! Jan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

After a weekend of an 18th birthday party followed by an extremely lazy, but well deserved day I think I am being driven around the twist by a baptism and burial that are invisible!! I have the following from family search https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MZJC-V34/p2 It is a burial for Isaac Marham. I have looked through the images of the Beeston burials as well as the Mileham burials and nothing. Neither can I find his baptism in either church. The family started in Mileham and continued in Beeston. Plenty of children and their subsequent deaths but no Isaac. Could someone please take a look for me and put me out of my misery?? It looks very genuine and informative so doubt they invented it!!! Jan

Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Mark Howells <markhow@oz.net> Sender: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:27:09 To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Reply-to: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Norfolk History - Great War armed coastal trains Hi Norfolkies - A history oriented question for which I hope to get some direction from the mailing list. I found a throw away reference to the War Office having commissioned armed trains along the Norfolk coast in 1914. They were always kept under steam apparently to protect from enemy invasion. (Because obviously if Happisburgh was to fall, that would lead directly to the fall of East Ruston and then the rest of the dominoes would tip! Picklehaubes in North Walsham - unthinkable!) Can anyone point me to references regarding what these coastal protection trains were like and how long they were in service? Thanks - Mark ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FreeREG indicates that it came from the Archdeacon's Transcripts for St Mary's Beeston and that's where I found it. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-12987-12322-42?cc=1824688&wc=6894989 Rosemary On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Jan Rockett <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com>wrote: > After a weekend of an 18th birthday party followed by an extremely lazy, > but > well deserved day I think I am being driven around the twist by a baptism > and burial that are invisible!! > I have the following from family search > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MZJC-V34/p2 > It is a burial for Isaac Marham. I have looked through the images of the > Beeston burials as well as the Mileham burials and nothing. Neither can I > find his baptism in either church. > The family started in Mileham and continued in Beeston. Plenty of children > and their subsequent deaths but no Isaac. > > Could someone please take a look for me and put me out of my misery?? > It looks very genuine and informative so doubt they invented it!!! > > Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

G'day Mark ! There is a "Railway Rootsweb List" which you can sign up for ! I have always found its members just as helpful and knowledgeable as the other Lists which I belong to ! Good Hunting ! Roger --------------------- On 23 Oct 2011, at 17:27, Mark Howells wrote: > Hi Norfolkies - > > A history oriented question for which I hope to get some direction > from the mailing list. > > I found a throw away reference to the War Office having > commissioned armed trains along the Norfolk coast in 1914. They > were always kept under steam apparently to protect from enemy > invasion. (Because obviously if Happisburgh was to fall, that would > lead directly to the fall of East Ruston and then the rest of the > dominoes would tip! Picklehaubes in North Walsham - unthinkable!) > > Can anyone point me to references regarding what these coastal > protection trains were like and how long they were in service? > > Thanks - Mark > > >

Hi Mark, You might be able to get an answer from these people http://www.mgncircle.org.uk/html/m_gn_circle.html They are into the history of the M & G N. line,the answer about 'crocodile guns' was misleading as the GWR. stands for Great Western Railway opposite side of the country. Richard Myhill richardmyhill43@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Howells" <markhow@oz.net> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 5:27 PM Subject: [NFK] Norfolk History - Great War armed coastal trains > Hi Norfolkies - > > A history oriented question for which I hope to get some direction > from the mailing list. > > I found a throw away reference to the War Office having > commissioned armed trains along the Norfolk coast in 1914. They > were always kept under steam apparently to protect from enemy > invasion. (Because obviously if Happisburgh was to fall, that would > lead directly to the fall of East Ruston and then the rest of the > dominoes would tip! Picklehaubes in North Walsham - unthinkable!) > > Can anyone point me to references regarding what these coastal > protection trains were like and how long they were in service? > > Thanks - Mark > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mark I live within spitting distance ( when the wind is in the right direction) of the old M&GN (?) line from Yarmouth to North Walsham- one of the stretches where the rail line actually ran close to the beach for a few miles. I can't help you with details- my "olds" who would know are long gone. I suspect they had in mind "He who would old England win, must at Weybourne Hoop ( Hope) begin" because of the deep water close to the beach there. If you do not strike lucky with an enthusiast perhaps the people in the office at the Sheringham steam railway- North Norfolk Railway http://www.nnrailway.co.uk might be kind and put you in touch with one. They have some interesting displays about the old M&GN and other lines. Another mine of information and a helpful chap who has written a stack of books about the history of Yarmouth and the Rows and district is Colin Tooke. http://www.gtyarmouth.co.uk/Tooke-Books/ He has very kindly answered a query I had once so you might strike lucky with him- there is a contact email address on the site. Rosie On 23/10/2011 17:27, Mark Howells wrote: > Hi Norfolkies - > > A history oriented question for which I hope to get some direction > from the mailing list. > > I found a throw away reference to the War Office having > commissioned armed trains along the Norfolk coast in 1914. They > were always kept under steam apparently to protect from enemy > invasion. (Because obviously if Happisburgh was to fall, that would > lead directly to the fall of East Ruston and then the rest of the > dominoes would tip! Picklehaubes in North Walsham - unthinkable!) > > Can anyone point me to references regarding what these coastal > protection trains were like and how long they were in service? > > Thanks - Mark > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think this is the right woman but am trying to see where I went wrong , especially as I have a date. Jan -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:02 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Wendling marriages 1844 Hi freebmd has a marriage of Zachariah Rocket ( one t ) to Ann Beavers ( the only Ann in the list ) in the Dec 1/4 of 1844 reg dist Mitford , vol 13 , p 645 . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: [NFK] Wendling marriages 1844 >I have recently found that a marriage I have on my tree may be wrong. I >have > the date and place of this marriage between Zachariah Rockett and Ann > Allen > taking place in Wendling 9 December 1844. > The problem is that I have been advised that the brides surname was > Beavers > and not Allen. I did not note the source of the information, this was from > years ago, and now cannot find it again. I can find the marriage between > Rockett and Beavers but not my original. I must have seen it somewhere or > I > would not have a date! > I have looked on Family Search but the Wendling registers aren't there for > that date, either in images or in the main search engine, nor on the > Norfolk > Transcriptions or Freereg. > Help. > > Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi freebmd has a marriage of Zachariah Rocket ( one t ) to Ann Beavers ( the only Ann in the list ) in the Dec 1/4 of 1844 reg dist Mitford , vol 13 , p 645 . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Rockett" <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: [NFK] Wendling marriages 1844 >I have recently found that a marriage I have on my tree may be wrong. I >have > the date and place of this marriage between Zachariah Rockett and Ann > Allen > taking place in Wendling 9 December 1844. > The problem is that I have been advised that the brides surname was > Beavers > and not Allen. I did not note the source of the information, this was from > years ago, and now cannot find it again. I can find the marriage between > Rockett and Beavers but not my original. I must have seen it somewhere or > I > would not have a date! > I have looked on Family Search but the Wendling registers aren't there for > that date, either in images or in the main search engine, nor on the > Norfolk > Transcriptions or Freereg. > Help. > > Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jan , is it possible that you found the the Rockett Allen marriage in another parish- on the 1841 the only Ann Allens ( with spelling variations) and Allens in general living close to Wendling that I could spot were in Dereham and Swaffham . I realise three years is long enough to move- just a thought. Rosie On 23/10/2011 14:15, Jan Rockett wrote: > I have recently found that a marriage I have on my tree may be wrong. I have > the date and place of this marriage between Zachariah Rockett and Ann Allen > taking place in Wendling 9 December 1844. > The problem is that I have been advised that the brides surname was Beavers > and not Allen. I did not note the source of the information, this was from > years ago, and now cannot find it again. I can find the marriage between > Rockett and Beavers but not my original. I must have seen it somewhere or I > would not have a date! > I have looked on Family Search but the Wendling registers aren't there for > that date, either in images or in the main search engine, nor on the Norfolk > Transcriptions or Freereg. > Help. > > Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have recently found that a marriage I have on my tree may be wrong. I have the date and place of this marriage between Zachariah Rockett and Ann Allen taking place in Wendling 9 December 1844. The problem is that I have been advised that the brides surname was Beavers and not Allen. I did not note the source of the information, this was from years ago, and now cannot find it again. I can find the marriage between Rockett and Beavers but not my original. I must have seen it somewhere or I would not have a date! I have looked on Family Search but the Wendling registers aren't there for that date, either in images or in the main search engine, nor on the Norfolk Transcriptions or Freereg. Help. Jan