Sending you all good wishes Lesley. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Lesley Day" <lesley.day@blueyonder.co.uk> Sender: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:28:39 To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Listers who have sent me emails and had no reply Hi to all If anyone has sent me any messages via the list or direct, please accept my apologies as I am undergoing chemotherapy for Ovarian Cancer and have not been up to responding at the moment. Once I have finished treatment in the New Year I will try to respond. Please could anyone waiting to hear from me send me another email late mid-January so I can get back to you as soon as I can. Many thanks Lesley Researching: ALLCOCK/ALCOCK: Beetley, Tittleshall, Longham, Gressenhall, East Dereham,Docking, Syderstone, Tattersett ATMORE: North Elmham, Beetley, Gressenhall AYERS: Hoe, Swanton Morley, Wending and area BENNINGTON/BENNETT/BENNETTON: Great Fransham, Gressenhall, Wendling, Sporle, BLOY: Tittleshall and surrounding area BOYCE: Gressenhall, East Dereham BRIDGES: Beeston & migratory areas BUNTING: Robert Bunting b 1795 of Beeston - Stanfield BUTTERS: Hoe, Gressenhall and Bintree CASON: Longham; Wendling & surrounding areas CLAXTON: Beeston & migrating areas COE: Bradenham, Beetley, Gressenhall COPLING/COPPEN etc: Gressenhall, Beetley, North Elmham CROWN: Beetley, Gressenhall and areas DAYNES: Garvestone>Surrey DODMAN: Gressenhall, Barney, West Norfolk EKE: E Dereham & surrounding area ELLIOTT: North Tuddenham, Hockering, Mattishall, East Dereham FELLOWES: Scarning, Beetley FREEZER/FRAZER: Beetley, Gressenhall, Syderstone, Holkham, E Barsham, Anmer,Beeston, Mileham & Worldwide HARMAN: Beetley, Gressenhall, Longham HARMER: Salhouse, Norwich HARRIS: East Dereham HEAD: East Dereham HERRING: Sedgeford HOOKE(S): Syderstone and surrounding areas ISBELL/ISBILL: Hoe, Yaxham, Elsing and surrounding areas JARRETT: Gressenhall, Swanton Morley JOHNSON: Houghton near Harpley, West Rudham KILLENGREY and Variants: Stoke Ferry>Longham KIRK: Hoe, Beetley & Gressenhall, East Dereham LACK: Syderstone & surrounding areas LAND: Wells, Beetley and Gressenhall LANGLEY: Syderstone, Docking and surrounding areas LUBBOCK: Kelling, Stanfield MAYES: E Dereham, Swanton Morley, Gressenhall MILLICAN: Gt Yarmouth & E Dereham MURRELL: Scarning, any connection NAILOR/NAYLOR: Bawdeswell, Billingford, Gressenhall, Elsing NEWSTEAD: Blofield, Yaxham, Mattishall Burgh PARSLEY: Blofield, Yaxham PAYNE: Wendling, Gressenhall and surrounds PHILLIPO/FLUPOT: Litcham, Longham PRESTON: Longham PURPLE: Longham, ALL RAMM: Houghton RAPER: Kings Lynn >East Dereham RAYNER: Wendling, Longham SPOONER: Gressenhall, North Elmham SYMONDS: Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall TEBBLE/TIBBLE: All THOMPSON: Longham TROLLOPE: Wiggenhall St Germans, Syderstone, Scarning, Swanton Morley TWAITES/THWAITES: Elsing, East Bradenham, Shipdham, Stanfield, Weasenham TWIGG: Beetley, Gressenhall and Mitford area and migrating of Islington area TYE: Beetley, Gressenhall, Hoe, East Bilney WATKINS: Swanton Morley WEBSDALE/WEBDALE and variants: All WHEALS/WHALES and variants: All WINTER: 1568 of Carbrook, North Elmham, Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall, Norwich, Loddon, Lowestoft, Bungay>Islington, Edmonton, Leyton>Redhill Surrey   Norfolk Travellers:   BRINKLEY GOOCH GRAY HARRIS LAMB LOVERIDGE OSBO(U)RNE POPE RAY WRAY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi to all If anyone has sent me any messages via the list or direct, please accept my apologies as I am undergoing chemotherapy for Ovarian Cancer and have not been up to responding at the moment. Once I have finished treatment in the New Year I will try to respond. Please could anyone waiting to hear from me send me another email late mid-January so I can get back to you as soon as I can. Many thanks Lesley Researching: ALLCOCK/ALCOCK: Beetley, Tittleshall, Longham, Gressenhall, East Dereham,Docking, Syderstone, Tattersett ATMORE: North Elmham, Beetley, Gressenhall AYERS: Hoe, Swanton Morley, Wending and area BENNINGTON/BENNETT/BENNETTON: Great Fransham, Gressenhall, Wendling, Sporle, BLOY: Tittleshall and surrounding area BOYCE: Gressenhall, East Dereham BRIDGES: Beeston & migratory areas BUNTING: Robert Bunting b 1795 of Beeston - Stanfield BUTTERS: Hoe, Gressenhall and Bintree CASON: Longham; Wendling & surrounding areas CLAXTON: Beeston & migrating areas COE: Bradenham, Beetley, Gressenhall COPLING/COPPEN etc: Gressenhall, Beetley, North Elmham CROWN: Beetley, Gressenhall and areas DAYNES: Garvestone>Surrey DODMAN: Gressenhall, Barney, West Norfolk EKE: E Dereham & surrounding area ELLIOTT: North Tuddenham, Hockering, Mattishall, East Dereham FELLOWES: Scarning, Beetley FREEZER/FRAZER: Beetley, Gressenhall, Syderstone, Holkham, E Barsham, Anmer,Beeston, Mileham & Worldwide HARMAN: Beetley, Gressenhall, Longham HARMER: Salhouse, Norwich HARRIS: East Dereham HEAD: East Dereham HERRING: Sedgeford HOOKE(S): Syderstone and surrounding areas ISBELL/ISBILL: Hoe, Yaxham, Elsing and surrounding areas JARRETT: Gressenhall, Swanton Morley JOHNSON: Houghton near Harpley, West Rudham KILLENGREY and Variants: Stoke Ferry>Longham KIRK: Hoe, Beetley & Gressenhall, East Dereham LACK: Syderstone & surrounding areas LAND: Wells, Beetley and Gressenhall LANGLEY: Syderstone, Docking and surrounding areas LUBBOCK: Kelling, Stanfield MAYES: E Dereham, Swanton Morley, Gressenhall MILLICAN: Gt Yarmouth & E Dereham MURRELL: Scarning, any connection NAILOR/NAYLOR: Bawdeswell, Billingford, Gressenhall, Elsing NEWSTEAD: Blofield, Yaxham, Mattishall Burgh PARSLEY: Blofield, Yaxham PAYNE: Wendling, Gressenhall and surrounds PHILLIPO/FLUPOT: Litcham, Longham PRESTON: Longham PURPLE: Longham, ALL RAMM: Houghton RAPER: Kings Lynn >East Dereham RAYNER: Wendling, Longham SPOONER: Gressenhall, North Elmham SYMONDS: Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall TEBBLE/TIBBLE: All THOMPSON: Longham TROLLOPE: Wiggenhall St Germans, Syderstone, Scarning, Swanton Morley TWAITES/THWAITES: Elsing, East Bradenham, Shipdham, Stanfield, Weasenham TWIGG: Beetley, Gressenhall and Mitford area and migrating of Islington area TYE: Beetley, Gressenhall, Hoe, East Bilney WATKINS: Swanton Morley WEBSDALE/WEBDALE and variants: All WHEALS/WHALES and variants: All WINTER: 1568 of Carbrook, North Elmham, Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall, Norwich, Loddon, Lowestoft, Bungay>Islington, Edmonton, Leyton>Redhill Surrey   Norfolk Travellers:   BRINKLEY GOOCH GRAY HARRIS LAMB LOVERIDGE OSBO(U)RNE POPE RAY WRAY

In the course of a clear-out of my late parents’ bric-a-brac I came across a WW1 medal (Great War service) with the following inscription: 18446 PTE W.E. BAINES NORF. R. I suspect he might be William Edward BAINES who was born 1882 in Blakeney. There is no ribbon or clip/clasp by the way and it was probably picked up at a car boot sale several years ago. If anyone on the list can help me to return it to a descendant, I’d be very grateful. All the best to you all ........... Bill Atkins

On 17/11/2011 12:19, richard wrote: > Hi All, > A big thank you for all the help i have received with solving the "Uncle Ernie" problem.He is now sitting in his correct place in the family tree having appeared out of the blue yesterday.Thanks again to all who replied. > Richard. > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Maybe this is Uncle Ernies father (John) the dates fit and so do the parish. (1881 Census family search site) regards Gordon Samuel BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009837_0&frompage=5> Head M Male 36 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Farm Labourer Hannah BATES <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009837_1&frompage=5> Daur U Female 17 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England John BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009837_2&frompage=5> Son U Male 14 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Farm Labourer Maryann BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009837_3&frompage=5> Daur Female 12 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Scholar Samuel J. BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009837_4&frompage=5> Son Male 5 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Scholar ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Source Information: *Dwelling* Cottage *Census Place* Tivetshall St Mary, Norfolk, England *Family History Library Film* 1341474 <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1341474> *Public Records Office Reference* RG11 *Piece / Folio* 1967 / 98 *Page Number* 10

On 17/11/2011 12:19, richard wrote: > Hi All, > A big thank you for all the help i have received with solving the "Uncle Ernie" problem.He is now sitting in his correct place in the family tree having appeared out of the blue yesterday.Thanks again to all who replied. > Richard. > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > found this on the family search site 1881 census, maybe of help as its in Tivetshall Gordon George BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009824_0&frompage=5> Head M Male 50 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Farm Labourer Mary A. BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009824_1&frompage=5> Wife M Female 41 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England George BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009824_2&frompage=5> Son U Male 18 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Farm Labourer William BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009824_3&frompage=5> Son Male 3 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Allace BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009824_4&frompage=5> Daur Female 2 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Maria BATES <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009824_5&frompage=5> Mother In Law W Female 74 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England Nurse Maria BARTRAM <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_2009824_6&frompage=5> Daur In Law M Female 39 Tivetshall, Norfolk, England

Hi All, A big thank you for all the help i have received with solving the "Uncle Ernie" problem.He is now sitting in his correct place in the family tree having appeared out of the blue yesterday.Thanks again to all who replied. Richard. Richard Myhill richardmyhill43@btinternet.com

On 17/11/2011 08:00, norfolk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > [NFK] ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM. > From: > "richard" <richardmyhill43@btinternet.com> > Date: > 16/11/2011 19:46 > > To: > <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > > > Is there any lister who will be going to the NRO that would do a look up for me please,i am not allowed to drive for a month having had a heart attack,and idon't want to have to wait that long for an answer having now found the chap. > I am looking for the baptism and parents of ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM,who was born June Quarter 1904 in Depwade,and i am certain he came from Tivetshall St.Mary.The online film stops at 1901,and so i am hoping that the book is in the record office but unfilmed. > Thanks. > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com Richard I think this is the record you are looking for. Ernest's name is spelt Earnest. 1911 census BARTRAM, John Head Married M 44 1867 Horseman On Farm Tivetshall Norfolk St Marys BARTRAM, Mary Wife Married 18 years F 42 1869 Pulham Market BARTRAM, Emma Daughter F 12 1899 At School Pulham Mary BARTRAM, Elsie Daughter F 10 1901 At School Pulham Mary BARTRAM, Earnest Son M 6 1905 At School Starston BARTRAM, Ruby Daughter F 5 1906 At School Starston BARTRAM, Stanley Son M 3 1908 At Home Starston RG number: RG14 Piece: 11439 Reference: RG14PN11439 RG78PN623 RD230 SD1 ED14 SN93 Registration District: Depwade Sub District: Harleston Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Starston Address: Hardwick Road Starston Harleston County: Norfolk Civil Registration event: Marriage Name: BARTRAM, Ernest J J Registration District: Loddon County: Norfolk Year of Registration: 1928 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Head Volume No: 4B Page No: 469 Name: HEAD, Ida Civil Registration event: Death Name: BARTRAM, Ernest John J Registration District: Colchester County: Essex Year of Registration: 1986 Month of Registration: February Date of Birth: 12 May 1904 Volume No: 9 Page No: 2767 Reg No: 286

Richard.. There is no need to go to the record office,, he should be in the 1911 census, which you can search on Findmypast. MAry ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard" <richardmyhill43@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:46 AM Subject: [NFK] ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM. > Is there any lister who will be going to the NRO that would do a look up > for me please,i am not allowed to drive for a month having had a heart > attack,and idon't want to have to wait that long for an answer having now > found the chap. > I am looking for the baptism and parents of ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM,who was > born June Quarter 1904 in Depwade,and i am certain he came from Tivetshall > St.Mary.The online film stops at 1901,and so i am hoping that the book is > in the record office but unfilmed. > Thanks. > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Richard Sorry to hear that you have been unwell! I have a list of what the records office holds and I can tell you that they only hold the original baptisms records for St Mary up to 1901. For Tivetshall St Margaret they have them up to 1934. I think that you would need to contact St Margaret's church itself to ask them if they could do a lookup on your behalf as this is possibly where St Mary's records now are, the actual church now being in ruins. See http://www.norfolkchurches.co.uk/tivetshallmary/tivetshallmary.htm You could try contacting the following to ask where the missing records are? They can probably put you in contact with the right person? An e-mail link can be found within the following link http://www.achurchnearyou.com/tivetshall-st-margaret/ Regards David -------Original Message------- From: richard Date: 16/11/2011 19:47:14 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM. Is there any lister who will be going to the NRO that would do a look up for me please,i am not allowed to drive for a month having had a heart attack and idon't want to have to wait that long for an answer having now found the chap. I am looking for the baptism and parents of ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM,who was born June Quarter 1904 in Depwade,and i am certain he came from Tivetshall St.Mary.The online film stops at 1901,and so i am hoping that the book is in the record office but unfilmed. Thanks. Richard Myhill richardmyhill43@btinternet.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there any lister who will be going to the NRO that would do a look up for me please,i am not allowed to drive for a month having had a heart attack,and idon't want to have to wait that long for an answer having now found the chap. I am looking for the baptism and parents of ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM,who was born June Quarter 1904 in Depwade,and i am certain he came from Tivetshall St.Mary.The online film stops at 1901,and so i am hoping that the book is in the record office but unfilmed. Thanks. Richard Myhill richardmyhill43@btinternet.com

Many thanks to Bonnie and Rosie and everybody who sent useful info. about the 1836 emigration. Much to explore here - thanks everyone for all the useful links. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "xpn11" <xpn11@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] !836 emigration Around 40 people from Kettlestone emigrated to Canada in 1836 From bits and pieces on the National Archive indexes which mentions records of expenses and elsewhere I got the impression they were actively encouraged to emigrate so they were not a drain on the local tax payers who had to pay for poor law relief On this Holkham page there are details of how £200 had been borrowed from the government and the vicar also borrowed money from the Coke estate which owned land in Kettlestone. The emigrants clothing is described as being in a wretched state. Fulmodeston is also mentioned http://www.holkham.co.uk/downloads/WS_2010.pdf As I understand it ( very shaky here) there was a great depression in the 1830s for a number of reasons, including 60 years of enclosures acts. In 1834 the Poor Laws were amended to cut out relief, so paupers would have been forced into the work house instead of getting a supplement to low wages. Rate payers would have had to fund the relief without getting cheap workers so no doubt they were not tardy in shuffling paupers onto ships bound to Canada Rosie On 13/11/2011 12:40, Jill Bloom wrote: > Bonnie > > Please could you give me a clue where to find info on this 1836 > emigration? > I guess it may have been an early part of the agricultural depression, > plus > the dying silk weaving etc., but have never heard a particular year for > Canada. I would like to read up on Norfolk 18th-19th century emigres. > > Interested because our twig of the Nortons was apparently all that was > left, > at that time, of an earlier 18th century network, thriving and with a > printed genealogy would you believe! Furthermore, the last person on this > tree, Stephen Norton (b.Brooke 1782) appears to be pretty impecunious by > 1841, living in Norwich. So far the reason undiscovered. Very strange to > have relatively good info on our Scott side, a number of whom left England > for the same part of Canada in the 1880s, with others possibly leaving > Scotland at an earlier date, but nothing on any emigrating Nortons from > this > area. > > Many thanks for any clues you can give - there's no hurry . > > Jill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Ostler"<bjrgen@gmail.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:02 AM > > > The big emigration from Norfolk to Canada took place in 1836. when more >> than 3,000 men, women and children left Norfolk, the majority landed in >> Quebec. >> >> Bonnie >

HI Richard I checked findmypast and can't find him in the 1911. I checked the death records for that name and found an Ernest Bartram deceased in Depwade 1906, age listed as 0. If this isn't him let me know and send me his fathers name and I will research under his name in the 1911. Of course you may have done all these steps anyway but ................. Muriel From: "richard" <richardmyhill43@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [NFK] ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM. > Is there any lister who will be going to the NRO that would do a look up > for me please,i am not allowed to drive for a month having had a heart > attack,and idon't want to have to wait that long for an answer having now > found the chap. > I am looking for the baptism and parents of ERNEST JOHN J.BARTRAM,who was > born June Quarter 1904 in Depwade,and i am certain he came from Tivetshall > St.Mary.The online film stops at 1901,and so i am hoping that the book is > in the record office but unfilmed. > Thanks. > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you didn't manage to spot the hidden LDS link (as it appeared as a dead end) then I found the following info Appears to be born in 1740 Marries Susannah Taylor 05 NOV 1776 Attleborough, Norfolk, England Source of DOB unknown apart from "Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter" -------Original Message------- From: Gerry Newnham Date: 15/11/2011 21:17:58 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] Norfolk Marriage Licenses Rosemary, You are very unlikely to be able obtain the Marriage Licence. This would have been handed by the Groom to the Vicar. It is unlikely to have survived as it wouldn't have been needed after the ceremony was over. What you can see is the Affidavit and Bond for the Marriage Licence. Peter Richardson has supplied the link to the Norwich A&Bs. Then go to Norfolk>Archdeaconry of Norfolk Court>1776-1777 and then go to Image 272 and 273. It says (image 273) that George claims to be "of the Age of One and Twenty years and upwards and a Bachelor". It is unlikely that he was telling a lie under oath but you cannot be sure. However, the balance of probability is that he wasn't under age. Good luck. Gerry On 15 Nov 2011, at 20:27, Rosemary Jones wrote: > Does anyone know where I could obtain a license for a marriage that took > place in Attleborough in December 1776? George Baker married Susan Taylor > at St Mary, Attleborough by License and I'm hoping the groom was under age > in which case I may have found his burial. > > Many thanks, > > Rosemary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rosemary, You are very unlikely to be able obtain the Marriage Licence. This would have been handed by the Groom to the Vicar. It is unlikely to have survived as it wouldn't have been needed after the ceremony was over. What you can see is the Affidavit and Bond for the Marriage Licence. Peter Richardson has supplied the link to the Norwich A&Bs. Then go to Norfolk>Archdeaconry of Norfolk Court>1776-1777 and then go to Image 272 and 273. It says (image 273) that George claims to be "of the Age of One and Twenty years and upwards and a Bachelor". It is unlikely that he was telling a lie under oath but you cannot be sure. However, the balance of probability is that he wasn't under age. Good luck. Gerry On 15 Nov 2011, at 20:27, Rosemary Jones wrote: > Does anyone know where I could obtain a license for a marriage that took > place in Attleborough in December 1776? George Baker married Susan Taylor > at St Mary, Attleborough by License and I'm hoping the groom was under age > in which case I may have found his burial. > > Many thanks, > > Rosemary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Rosemary, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Jones" <rjones5622@gmail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: [NFK] Norfolk Marriage Licenses > Does anyone know where I could obtain a license for a marriage that took > place in Attleborough in December 1776? George Baker married Susan Taylor > at St Mary, Attleborough by License and I'm hoping the groom was under age > in which case I may have found his burial. Norfolk Record Office if you live nearby, or <https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1824690> if you don't. Regards Peter

David, I'm looking at the Banns and Marriages images from Attleborough for 1776 (image 31) and George Baker married Susan Taylor on the 5 Dec 1776. When their children are baptised she is known as Susannah. On the 5th Nov 1776 John Page and Ann Stacy were married by Banns. Their entry is at the top of the page with George and Susan following straight after. Th entry previous to this (on image 30) is in October. I haven't followed this forward to the ATs or BT's as these are transcriptions as well. Thanks for taking the time to look. Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:48 PM, David Cullingford < d.cullingford@ntlworld.com> wrote: > If you didn't manage to spot the hidden LDS link (as it appeared as a dead > end) then I found the following info > > Appears to be born in 1740 > Marries Susannah Taylor 05 NOV 1776 Attleborough, Norfolk, England > Source of DOB unknown apart from "Record submitted after 1991 by a member > of > the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may > list the same family and the submitter" > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Gerry Newnham > Date: 15/11/2011 21:17:58 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] Norfolk Marriage Licenses > > Rosemary, > > You are very unlikely to be able obtain the Marriage Licence. This would > have been handed by the Groom to the Vicar. It is unlikely to have survived > as it wouldn't have been needed after the ceremony was over. > > What you can see is the Affidavit and Bond for the Marriage Licence. Peter > Richardson has supplied the link to the Norwich A&Bs. Then go to > Norfolk>Archdeaconry of Norfolk Court>1776-1777 and then go to Image 272 > and > 273. It says (image 273) that George claims to be "of the Age of One and > Twenty years and upwards and a Bachelor". It is unlikely that he was > telling > a lie under oath but you cannot be sure. However, the balance of > probability > is that he wasn't under age. > > Good luck. > > Gerry > > On 15 Nov 2011, at 20:27, Rosemary Jones wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I could obtain a license for a marriage that took > > place in Attleborough in December 1776? George Baker married Susan Taylor > > at St Mary, Attleborough by License and I'm hoping the groom was under > age > > in which case I may have found his burial. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Rosemary > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wonderful Gerry, You must be used to going through these as I was somewhat daunted by the vast array of images. Thank you ... Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Gerry Newnham <gerry@kiltie.net> wrote: > Rosemary, > > You are very unlikely to be able obtain the Marriage Licence. This would > have been handed by the Groom to the Vicar. It is unlikely to have survived > as it wouldn't have been needed after the ceremony was over. > > What you can see is the Affidavit and Bond for the Marriage Licence. Peter > Richardson has supplied the link to the Norwich A&Bs. Then go to > Norfolk>Archdeaconry of Norfolk Court>1776-1777 and then go to Image 272 > and 273. It says (image 273) that George claims to be "of the Age of One > and Twenty years and upwards and a Bachelor". It is unlikely that he was > telling a lie under oath but you cannot be sure. However, the balance of > probability is that he wasn't under age. > > Good luck. > > Gerry > > On 15 Nov 2011, at 20:27, Rosemary Jones wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I could obtain a license for a marriage that took > > place in Attleborough in December 1776? George Baker married Susan Taylor > > at St Mary, Attleborough by License and I'm hoping the groom was under > age > > in which case I may have found his burial. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Rosemary > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Peter, I'm a little far from the record office being in Oklahoma. Since I posted my request I found them on FamilySearch at the link you sent but they haven't been indexed. SOB!! I'm going to have to slowly go through these perhaps for 30-40 minutes at a time. Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Peter J Richardson < pjrich.ntl@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hello Rosemary, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rosemary Jones" <rjones5622@gmail.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:27 PM > Subject: [NFK] Norfolk Marriage Licenses > > > > Does anyone know where I could obtain a license for a marriage that took > > place in Attleborough in December 1776? George Baker married Susan Taylor > > at St Mary, Attleborough by License and I'm hoping the groom was under > age > > in which case I may have found his burial. > > Norfolk Record Office if you live nearby, or > < > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1824690 > > > if you don't. > > Regards > Peter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know where I could obtain a license for a marriage that took place in Attleborough in December 1776? George Baker married Susan Taylor at St Mary, Attleborough by License and I'm hoping the groom was under age in which case I may have found his burial. Many thanks, Rosemary

Dear Rob / Elizabeth I noted with considerable interest your recent inquiry on NorfolkRoots re: Sarah ENGLAND. My ggg-grandparents were William ENGLAND (b1773, Cromer - 1838, Cromer) and Anne BREEZE (1776, Northrepps - 1846, Cromer). They had six children, George (my gg-grandfather), Mary Ann, Esther, Susannah, Henry and Edmund. If either of you have anything on this family, I would be most interested. George married an Elizabeth STIMPSON and had a son, also George, who was my great-grandfather; George Jnr's is a story in itself! Best wishes Steve Cleary