Hi, it would appear that both records in the NA catalogue are for the same man , one is 42 in 1816 , the other 37 in 1810 , so b c 1773/4 , one record says b Norwich , the other this Bartentrent , you would need to get a copy of both and the second place of birth might become clearer in the original .....these entries are simply quick transcriptions for the index . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Greenwood" <jeangreenwood@virginmedia.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] Norfolk place name > Found the following in National Archives andf would appreciate any ideas > as to what the correct name for Bartentrent might be! > > JAMES DYBELL alias JAMES DYBLE > Born BARTENTRENT, Norfolk > Served in 3rd Foot Regiment; 4th Garrison Battalion; 47th Foot Regiment > Discharged aged 37 after 8 years of service > Covering year 1810 > > Thanks > Jean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A good source for the Norfolk Parish registers that are extant is the National Index to Parish Registers, published by the Society of Genalogists in London.It covers the counties of Cambs, Norfolk and Suffolk. I am sure this can be accessed somewhere. Most libraries have it. My copy was printed in 1983 and some registers have been recovered since then, but it still gives you a good indication of what is available. The NRO has a listing of their holdings on their site. Honor Vanc,.Island.

I only know Barton Bendish abd Barton Turf. Sorry. ________________________________ From: Jean Greenwood <jeangreenwood@virginmedia.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 20 November, 2011 13:03:27 Subject: Re: [NFK] Norfolk place name Found the following in National Archives andf would appreciate any ideas as to what the correct name for Bartentrent might be! JAMES DYBELL alias JAMES DYBLE Born BARTENTRENT, Norfolk Served in 3rd Foot Regiment; 4th Garrison Battalion; 47th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 37 after 8 years of service Covering year 1810 Thanks Jean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barton Turf, perhaps? On 20/11/2011 13:03, Jean Greenwood wrote: > Found the following in National Archives andf would appreciate any ideas > as to what the correct name for Bartentrent might be! > > JAMES DYBELL alias JAMES DYBLE > Born BARTENTRENT, Norfolk > Served in 3rd Foot Regiment; 4th Garrison Battalion; 47th Foot Regiment > Discharged aged 37 after 8 years of service > Covering year 1810 > > Thanks > Jean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi,   how about   BARTON BENDISH   Andrew ________________________________ From: Jean Greenwood <jeangreenwood@virginmedia.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011, 13:03 Subject: Re: [NFK] Norfolk place name Found the following in National Archives andf would appreciate any ideas as to what the correct name for Bartentrent might be! JAMES DYBELL alias JAMES DYBLE Born BARTENTRENT, Norfolk Served in 3rd Foot Regiment; 4th Garrison Battalion; 47th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 37 after 8 years of service Covering year 1810 Thanks Jean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Found the following in National Archives andf would appreciate any ideas as to what the correct name for Bartentrent might be! JAMES DYBELL alias JAMES DYBLE Born BARTENTRENT, Norfolk Served in 3rd Foot Regiment; 4th Garrison Battalion; 47th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 37 after 8 years of service Covering year 1810 Thanks Jean

Thank you for the info, and the speedy replies! If you check out my GOONS page, you can read in detail about my immigrant ancestor Joseph COBB (c. 1599 - 1653), as well as many other famous (and infamous) people bearing the name: http://www.one-name.org/profiles/cobb.html Best regards, Stephanie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Elizabeth Lee Pugh <elp@northwestel.net> Date: Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] State of Norfolk PRs To: netnuevo@gmail.com Hello Stephanie You didn't give us a name to try to help you, but have you tried FreeReg? Deducing from your One Name Study list I assume the name you are looking for is COBB(E).  There are 164 COBB (and variations) born in Norfolk listed on Free Reg (one I immediately saw was from K Lynn) between 1590 and 1610. Just remember that Free Reg is a site being compiled by volunteers, and not all parishes in Norfolk have been 'done' yet. www.freereg.org.uk/ If you find who you are looking for on Free Reg you can then go to the LDS site that someone else told you about and trawl through the PRs on line - if they are there! Good luck Elizabeth Pugh Whitehorse Yukon Canada

Hi, everybody: I'm trying to track an ancestor that left England in the early 17th century (probably a dissenter). I haven't been able to find him in the IGI, FMP, or ancestry. The odds are good that he was born Norfolk*, however (circa 1599), and was wondering if anyone had any comments in general about the availability of Norfolk parish registers... has there been any bombing, fires, neglect, etc. that would substantially affect it? Thank you, Stephanie Guild of One Name Studies #5587 Cobb, Cobbe, etc. * He went to Jamestown, Virginia, along with Henry Spelman of Congham, John Rolfe of Heacham, and Edward Waters of King's Lynn.

Have you checked your unusual names against those entered in the register of one name studies www.one-name.org Should your contacts prove to be negative perhaps you could consider helping those one name studies by providing whatever information you have in case it allows links to be established with other interested parties ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <chris.aston@gmx.co.uk> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: [NFK] John Flack > Hi > Can anyone help? I have found a birth of John Flack on Family Search > Born at Hilgay 1797 to Simon Flack and Hannah, but I can't find a > marriage date for Simon and Hannah. I would be grateful if anyone could > help me. > > Chris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, there is a bapt record of 11 Oct 1795 in Lakenheath , Suffolk, of a Sarah , dau of Simon and Hannah Flack , mother`s surname May . This seems to be the first sign of the family in Lakenheath .. There is an Ancestry family tree which suggests that Simon is b S Lopham in 1772 son of Nathaniel and Sarah , married Hannah Mays , died Lakenheath 1814 aged 42 . In the 1851 census for Lakenheath there is a Nathaniel Flack , 77, pauper late Ag labourer, b Lopham , Norfolk , with his wife Sarah, maybe a second wife, aged 53, b Lakenheath , and son Peter aged 16, b Lakenheath , and a George Flack , described as lodger, marr , 26, ag lab, b Lakenheath, with wife Eliza, 25, and then three siblings the Batson children Susan , 12, pauper, Frances, 9 , pauper and Walter , 7 , pauper all three born in Ely , Cambs, and a further John Flack , lodger, unm, 18 , b Ely . In the 1841 census for Hitcham , Suffolk, there is a Hanah ( as spelled ) Flack , 70, F.S. , Y living with Rhoda Hales , 75, Y , and a Maria Flack , aged 30 , Y. This might be Simon Flack`s widow . In the 1841 census for Lakenheath , in Clay pits, there is Nathaniel Flack , 69, ag lab, N , Sarah , 43, Y, and their family Sarah, 15, Y, George , 14, Y, Henry , 12, Y, Joseph , 7, Y, Peter , 5 , Y, and next door Nathl Flack, junr, 35, Y, Susan , 35, N , Willm , 11, Y, Charles, 10, Y, Betsey, 8, Y , Richard, 6, Y, Mary , 3, Y , and further a Nath Flack , 20, Y, Ann, 20, Y, Sarah , 9 months, Y . The next entry says N or U K 24 gipsies . Hope this gives you some clues . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <chris.aston@gmx.co.uk> To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: [NFK] John Flack > Hi > Can anyone help? I have found a birth of John Flack on Family Search > Born at Hilgay 1797 to Simon Flack and Hannah, but I can't find a > marriage date for Simon and Hannah. I would be grateful if anyone could > help me. > > Chris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Can anyone help? I have found a birth of John Flack on Family Search Born at Hilgay 1797 to Simon Flack and Hannah, but I can't find a marriage date for Simon and Hannah. I would be grateful if anyone could help me. Chris

On 19/11/2011 08:00, norfolk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > In the course of a clear-out of my late parents' bric-a-brac I came > across > a WW1 medal (Great War service) with the following inscription: > > 18446 PTE W.E. BAINES NORF. R. > > I suspect he might be William Edward BAINES who was born 1882 in > Blakeney. > There is no ribbon or clip/clasp by the way and it was probably > picked up > at a car boot sale several years ago. > > If anyone on the list can help me to return it to a descendant, I'd be > very grateful. > > All the best to you all ........... Bill Atkins Bill There is a British Army WW1 Medal Rolls Index Card which reads Baines William E. NORF R. 18446 LAB. CORPS 207760 Awarded the three usual campaign medals. Theater of War - France. His transfer to the Labour Corps is interesting. There is more information here http://www.1914-1918.net/labour.htm. Unfortunately, none of his enlistment or service record papers seem to have survived the Blitz. Richard Spink

Did FreeREG.org.uk come up with anything? On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:59 AM, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com>wrote: > Hi, there is a bapt record of 11 Oct 1795 in Lakenheath , > Suffolk, of a Sarah , dau of Simon and Hannah Flack , mother`s surname May > . > This seems to be the first sign of the family in Lakenheath .. > There is an Ancestry family tree which suggests that Simon is b > S Lopham in 1772 son of Nathaniel and Sarah , married Hannah Mays , died > Lakenheath 1814 aged 42 . In the 1851 census for Lakenheath there is a > Nathaniel Flack , 77, pauper late Ag labourer, b Lopham , Norfolk , with > his > wife Sarah, maybe a second wife, aged 53, b Lakenheath , and son Peter aged > 16, b Lakenheath , and a George Flack , described as lodger, marr , 26, ag > lab, b Lakenheath, with wife Eliza, 25, and then three siblings the Batson > children Susan , 12, pauper, Frances, 9 , pauper and Walter , 7 , pauper > all > three born in Ely , Cambs, and a further John Flack , lodger, unm, 18 , b > Ely . > In the 1841 census for Hitcham , Suffolk, there is a Hanah ( as > spelled ) Flack , 70, F.S. , Y living with Rhoda Hales , 75, Y , and a > Maria > Flack , aged 30 , Y. This might be Simon Flack`s widow . > In the 1841 census for Lakenheath , in Clay pits, there is Nathaniel > Flack , 69, ag lab, N , Sarah , 43, Y, and their family Sarah, 15, Y, > George > , 14, Y, Henry , 12, Y, Joseph , 7, Y, Peter , 5 , Y, and next door Nathl > Flack, junr, 35, Y, Susan , 35, N , Willm , 11, Y, Charles, 10, Y, Betsey, > 8, Y , Richard, 6, Y, Mary , 3, Y , and further a Nath Flack , 20, Y, Ann, > 20, Y, Sarah , 9 months, Y . The next entry says N or U K 24 gipsies . > Hope this gives you some clues . > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine" <chris.aston@gmx.co.uk> > To: <NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:57 PM > Subject: [NFK] John Flack > > > > Hi > > Can anyone help? I have found a birth of John Flack on Family Search > > Born at Hilgay 1797 to Simon Flack and Hannah, but I can't find a > > marriage date for Simon and Hannah. I would be grateful if anyone could > > help me. > > > > Chris > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Audrey, I am determined to beat this! -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Audrey Baker Sent: 19 November 2011 03:19 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] Listers who have sent me emails and had no reply Researching Moore, Bishop, Jacobs, Grummit, Sarsby Walsingham, Beetley, Gressenhall, King's Lynn, Great Snoring etc. Dear Lesley, Thank you for all the help you gave me over the years. I am most grateful. I hope your treatments are successful. Hang in there. With thoughts & prayers for a full recovery. Audrey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Researching Moore, Bishop, Jacobs, Grummit, Sarsby Walsingham, Beetley, Gressenhall, King's Lynn, Great Snoring etc. Dear Lesley, Thank you for all the help you gave me over the years. I am most grateful. I hope your treatments are successful. Hang in there. With thoughts & prayers for a full recovery. Audrey

Many thanks to Carolynn, David and John for the feedback - much appreciated. Armed with those details I'll try and dig deeper over the weekend and will report back :-) Have a good one all ............... Bill Original e-mail: >> In the course of a clear-out of my late parents’ bric-a-brac I came >> across >> a WW1 medal (Great War service) with the following inscription: >> >> 18446 PTE W.E. BAINES NORF. R. >> >> I suspect he might be William Edward BAINES who was born 1882 in >> Blakeney. >> There is no ribbon or clip/clasp by the way and it was probably >> picked up >> at a car boot sale several years ago. >> >> If anyone on the list can help me to return it to a descendant, I’d be >> very grateful. >> >> All the best to you all ........... Bill Atkins >>

David, in 1911 census:- William 28 Fisherman b Blakeney Nfk Daisy 28 b Bacton Nfk Charlotte 9 b Blakeney Nfk Edward 3 b Blakeney Nfk Married 9 years. Had had no other children. John On 17/11/2011 22:05, David Booty wrote: > William Edward (Willie) BAINES was my 4th cousin x1 removed. He was born in 1882 in Blakeney and died in 1957 in Fakenham District. I think he may have had children, but I am afraid I have no details of them. He married Daisy > Victoria V. OLLEY in 1901, and she died in 1960. > > David > > > ________________________________ > From: Carolynn Langley<norfolktwelve@gmail.com> > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011, 17:44 > Subject: Re: [NFK] W.E. BAINES of Blakeney - WW1 medal > > He is not mentioned on the War memorial..in Blakeney > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Bill Atkins<bill.atkins@ntlworld.com>wrote: > >> In the course of a clear-out of my late parents’ bric-a-brac I came across >> a WW1 medal (Great War service) with the following inscription: >> >> 18446 PTE W.E. BAINES NORF. R. >> >> I suspect he might be William Edward BAINES who was born 1882 in Blakeney. >> There is no ribbon or clip/clasp by the way and it was probably picked up >> at a car boot sale several years ago. >> >> If anyone on the list can help me to return it to a descendant, I’d be >> very grateful. >> >> All the best to you all ........... Bill Atkins >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

William Edward (Willie) BAINES was my 4th cousin x1 removed. He was born in 1882 in Blakeney and died in 1957 in Fakenham District. I think he may have had children, but I am afraid I have no details of them. He married Daisy Victoria V. OLLEY in 1901, and she died in 1960. David ________________________________ From: Carolynn Langley <norfolktwelve@gmail.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011, 17:44 Subject: Re: [NFK] W.E. BAINES of Blakeney - WW1 medal He is not mentioned on the War memorial..in Blakeney On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Bill Atkins <bill.atkins@ntlworld.com>wrote: > In the course of a clear-out of my late parents’ bric-a-brac I came across > a WW1 medal (Great War service) with the following inscription: > > 18446 PTE W.E. BAINES NORF. R. > > I suspect he might be William Edward BAINES who was born 1882 in Blakeney. >  There is no ribbon or clip/clasp by the way and it was probably picked up > at a car boot sale several years ago. > > If anyone on the list can help me to return it to a descendant, I’d be > very grateful. > > All the best to you all  ...........  Bill Atkins > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wishing you all the best take care - carolynn langley On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:42 PM, <margaretusmar@gmail.com> wrote: > Sending you all good wishes Lesley. > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Lesley Day" <lesley.day@blueyonder.co.uk> > Sender: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:28:39 > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Listers who have sent me emails and had no reply > > Hi to all > > If anyone has sent me any messages via the list or direct, please accept my > apologies as I am undergoing chemotherapy for Ovarian Cancer and have not > been up to responding at the moment. > > Once I have finished treatment in the New Year I will try to respond. > Please could anyone waiting to hear from me send me another email late > mid-January so I can get back to you as soon as I can. > > Many thanks > > Lesley > Researching: > > ALLCOCK/ALCOCK: Beetley, Tittleshall, Longham, Gressenhall, East > Dereham,Docking, Syderstone, Tattersett > ATMORE: North Elmham, Beetley, Gressenhall > AYERS: Hoe, Swanton Morley, Wending and area > BENNINGTON/BENNETT/BENNETTON: Great Fransham, Gressenhall, Wendling, > Sporle, > > BLOY: Tittleshall and surrounding area > BOYCE: Gressenhall, East Dereham > BRIDGES: Beeston & migratory areas > BUNTING: Robert Bunting b 1795 of Beeston - Stanfield > BUTTERS: Hoe, Gressenhall and Bintree > CASON: Longham; Wendling & surrounding areas > CLAXTON: Beeston & migrating areas > COE: Bradenham, Beetley, Gressenhall > COPLING/COPPEN etc: Gressenhall, Beetley, North Elmham > CROWN: Beetley, Gressenhall and areas > DAYNES: Garvestone>Surrey > DODMAN: Gressenhall, Barney, West Norfolk > EKE: E Dereham & surrounding area > ELLIOTT: North Tuddenham, Hockering, Mattishall, East Dereham > FELLOWES: Scarning, Beetley > FREEZER/FRAZER: Beetley, Gressenhall, Syderstone, Holkham, E Barsham, > Anmer,Beeston, Mileham & Worldwide > HARMAN: Beetley, Gressenhall, Longham > HARMER: Salhouse, Norwich > HARRIS: East Dereham > HEAD: East Dereham > HERRING: Sedgeford > HOOKE(S): Syderstone and surrounding areas > ISBELL/ISBILL: Hoe, Yaxham, Elsing and surrounding areas > JARRETT: Gressenhall, Swanton Morley > JOHNSON: Houghton near Harpley, West Rudham > KILLENGREY and Variants: Stoke Ferry>Longham > KIRK: Hoe, Beetley & Gressenhall, East Dereham > LACK: Syderstone & surrounding areas > LAND: Wells, Beetley and Gressenhall > LANGLEY: Syderstone, Docking and surrounding areas > LUBBOCK: Kelling, Stanfield > MAYES: E Dereham, Swanton Morley, Gressenhall > MILLICAN: Gt Yarmouth & E Dereham > MURRELL: Scarning, any connection > NAILOR/NAYLOR: Bawdeswell, Billingford, Gressenhall, Elsing > NEWSTEAD: Blofield, Yaxham, Mattishall Burgh > PARSLEY: Blofield, Yaxham > PAYNE: Wendling, Gressenhall and surrounds > PHILLIPO/FLUPOT: Litcham, Longham > PRESTON: Longham > PURPLE: Longham, ALL > RAMM: Houghton > RAPER: Kings Lynn >East Dereham > RAYNER: Wendling, Longham > SPOONER: Gressenhall, North Elmham > SYMONDS: Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall > TEBBLE/TIBBLE: All > THOMPSON: Longham > TROLLOPE: Wiggenhall St Germans, Syderstone, Scarning, Swanton Morley > TWAITES/THWAITES: Elsing, East Bradenham, Shipdham, Stanfield, Weasenham > TWIGG: Beetley, Gressenhall and Mitford area and migrating of Islington > area > TYE: Beetley, Gressenhall, Hoe, East Bilney > WATKINS: Swanton Morley > WEBSDALE/WEBDALE and variants: All > WHEALS/WHALES and variants: All > WINTER: 1568 of Carbrook, North Elmham, Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall, > Norwich, Loddon, Lowestoft, Bungay>Islington, Edmonton, Leyton>Redhill > Surrey > > Norfolk Travellers: > > BRINKLEY > GOOCH > GRAY > HARRIS > LAMB > LOVERIDGE > OSBO(U)RNE > POPE > RAY > WRAY > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

He is not mentioned on the War memorial..in Blakeney On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Bill Atkins <bill.atkins@ntlworld.com>wrote: > In the course of a clear-out of my late parents’ bric-a-brac I came across > a WW1 medal (Great War service) with the following inscription: > > 18446 PTE W.E. BAINES NORF. R. > > I suspect he might be William Edward BAINES who was born 1882 in Blakeney. > There is no ribbon or clip/clasp by the way and it was probably picked up > at a car boot sale several years ago. > > If anyone on the list can help me to return it to a descendant, I’d be > very grateful. > > All the best to you all ........... Bill Atkins > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message