Don't use the IGI. Use the newer FamilySearch panels. I put in Ellett in Saham Toney and came up with this: https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Aellett~%20%2Bany_place%3A%22Saham%20TOney%22 Rosemary On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:38 AM, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com>wrote: > Hi, I cannot see that ST is on Freereg or on IGI so I > would think the only way forward or backward is to get a copy of the > transcript from NFHS they have bapts 1694-1853, marr 1694-1837, burials > 1694-1848. > There are Elletts in Saham Toney , Robert , 35, farmer , Y . > Elizabeth, 25, Robert, 4 , James, 2 .Elizabeth, infant . James Ellett > ,25, shoemaker, Y. "Salah" , 24 , Y. is the other couple.. Do you have > their names ........ > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Armstrong" <t.taz13@yahoo.com> > To: <Norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:41 PM > Subject: [NFK] ELLETT family from Saham Toney > > > Hi > > Is anyone researching the Ellett family from Saham Toney? > > I have William ELLETT born in 1815, his father and grandfather but am then > stuck. Would be grateful if anyone could help > > Thanks > > Christine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Elizabeth and David, David, thanks for the map. I had been using Streetmap, but your map gives me the big picture in one. Elizabeth, thanks for your help as well. I really don't have any substantial leads on my Allen family. I have found a convict to Australia who originated from Roxham or Wroxham, by the name of James Allen, and who was in the same area as a James Allen whom other researchers think was a brother to my Benjamin. Accordingly I am trying to locate any James Allens from that area, who may have had a brother Benjamin. The William Allen from Denver could be their father, as there are vacant years for the births of children which would suit Benjamin and James. The family of Christmas Allen (also known as George), from Tunstead, Srpowston and Wroxham, have a son George Luke Allen b 1811. Perhaps he changed his name to Benjamin - if so, that will prove to be a problem for me unless I can tie in other family members. I have now stumbled upon the birth of a Benjamin (surname unknown) b. Sprowston 1800 (on freereg) - used "?" in the surname field. Perhaps he was related to Christmas's family - difficult to prove with scant info. to work with. Thanks again, Cheers, Warren -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:03 Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi, I have a feeling that you probably have all the info I ave sent you already !!! so will desist further . I think you can get a arish map of Norfolk online possibly from the NFHS or the NRO sites . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> ent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:19 PM ubject: Re: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for your efforts. I have found the information on the James Allen bapt Wroxham to Christmas and Sarah. They had a son George Luke Allen 1811, and other children at Tunsted and Sprowston, but I couldn't connect that family in. I actually couldn't find any info. on that family after about 1822, they don't seem to appear in the 1841 census. The James bapt 1818 to William and Hannah is also of interest. I shall have a look at a map to see where Marham is, and try to ind their marriage, and other children. kind regards, Warren -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:43 Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi again , in Freereg for James Allen bapt c 1818 , there s a bapt at Wroxham , St Mary , 1819, of James son of Christmas and Sarah llen , father`s occupation butcher . I had been looking here in W orfolk for Allens but if you think Roxham might be Wroxham this is for you However there is at Marham , some 8 miles down the road from Downham nd therefore Roxham , a bapt of a James son of William and Hannah Allen , f Marham, labourer in June 1818 . ife is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> ent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:13 PM ubject: Re: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi Elizabeth, I think Benjamin was born approx 1813, and James born approx 1818. I don't have any parent's names, but Benjamin had sons Benjamin and William, and James had sons George Benjamin and John. I have a partial? military record for a James Allen (who may or may not be the correct fellow), which indicates he was born 1817 - 1819 and indicates Roxham Norfolk, which I have taken to be either Wroxham (NE of Norwich), or Roxham near Ryston. I am attempting to check out births for both areas. Cheers, Warren -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:20 Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi, when you think Benjamin and James were born ? ife is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> ent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:18 PM ubject: [NFK] : William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for the Census information. It doesn't appear that Benjamin and James belong to the family of William and Sarah. The information on John and his wife agrees with what I have with them coming to Victoria in the mid 1850's, although Elizabeth at Cambridge is a bit of a mystery, as Thomas would be too young to have had children, and Elizabeth still has the Allen surname (aged 10 in 1851). Perhaps I need to do some checking on the family she is living with in Cambridge. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi, I have a feeling that you probably have all the info I have sent you already !!! so will desist further . I think you can get a parish map of Norfolk online possibly from the NFHS or the NRO sites . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > Hi Elizabeth, > > Thanks for your efforts. > > I have found the information on the James Allen bapt Wroxham to Christmas > and Sarah. They had a son George Luke Allen 1811, and other children at > Tunsted and Sprowston, but I couldn't connect that family in. I actually > couldn't find any info. on that family after about 1822, they don't seem > to appear in the 1841 census. > > The James bapt 1818 to William and Hannah is also of interest. I shall > have a look at a map to see where Marham is, and try to ind their > marriage, and other children. > > kind regards, Warren > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> > To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:43 > Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > > Hi again , in Freereg for James Allen bapt c 1818 , > there > s a bapt at Wroxham , St Mary , 1819, of James son of Christmas and Sarah > llen , father`s occupation butcher . I had been looking here in W > orfolk for Allens but if you think Roxham might be Wroxham this is for you > However there is at Marham , some 8 miles down the road from Downham > nd therefore Roxham , a bapt of a James son of William and Hannah Allen , > f Marham, labourer in June 1818 . > > > ife is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> > o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > ent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:13 PM > ubject: Re: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > > Hi Elizabeth, > > I think Benjamin was born approx 1813, and James born approx 1818. I don't > have any parent's names, but Benjamin had sons Benjamin and William, and > James had sons George Benjamin and John. > > I have a partial? military record for a James Allen (who may or may not be > the correct fellow), which indicates he was born 1817 - 1819 and indicates > Roxham Norfolk, which I have taken to be either Wroxham (NE of Norwich), > or Roxham near Ryston. I am attempting to check out births for both areas. > > Cheers, Warren > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> > To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:20 > Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > > Hi, when you think Benjamin and James were born ? > > > ife is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> > o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:18 PM > ubject: [NFK] : William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > > Hi Elizabeth, > > Thanks for the Census information. > > It doesn't appear that Benjamin and James belong to the family of William > and Sarah. The information on John and his wife agrees with what I have > with them coming to Victoria in the mid 1850's, although Elizabeth at > Cambridge is a bit of a mystery, as Thomas would be too young to have had > children, and Elizabeth still has the Allen surname (aged 10 in 1851). > Perhaps I need to do some checking on the family she is living with in > Cambridge. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Anyone researching Armiger?

- Sent from my HTC - ----- Reply message ----- From: "David Tennant" <d_jtennant@sympatico.ca> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NFK] LDS record images versus Norwich records office(NRO)images on microfiche, specifically Gillingham and Loddon Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 4:20 pm Rosie No problem. But having been born in Belton when it was Suffolk, I am now confused(not an unusual state for me!) when , even in Canada I am asked to state my place of birth. Was it Belton , Suffolk or Norfolk? Rest assured this boundary changing is not confined to UK. My present house here in Canada has been in 4 different jurisdictions since it was built in 1972. Gloucester, Nepean, Rideau and now Ottawa! However the word Ottawa does not appear in my postal address ! Dave On 31/12/2011 3:39 AM, xpn11 wrote: > Ah, sorry about that David. County boundaries move in mysterious ways-I > think I can remember writing addresses for Peterborough in > Huntingdonshire, Northamptonshire and Cambridgeshire and the Upwell area > jiggled a bit too. The grand plans of councils brought Gorleston into > Norfolk-some of us think Yarmouth might have been better without it! > If I spot anything more detailed I will post > Rosie. > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for your efforts. I have found the information on the James Allen bapt Wroxham to Christmas and Sarah. They had a son George Luke Allen 1811, and other children at Tunsted and Sprowston, but I couldn't connect that family in. I actually couldn't find any info. on that family after about 1822, they don't seem to appear in the 1841 census. The James bapt 1818 to William and Hannah is also of interest. I shall have a look at a map to see where Marham is, and try to ind their marriage, and other children. kind regards, Warren -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:43 Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi again , in Freereg for James Allen bapt c 1818 , there s a bapt at Wroxham , St Mary , 1819, of James son of Christmas and Sarah llen , father`s occupation butcher . I had been looking here in W orfolk for Allens but if you think Roxham might be Wroxham this is for you However there is at Marham , some 8 miles down the road from Downham nd therefore Roxham , a bapt of a James son of William and Hannah Allen , f Marham, labourer in June 1818 . ife is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> ent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:13 PM ubject: Re: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi Elizabeth, I think Benjamin was born approx 1813, and James born approx 1818. I don't have any parent's names, but Benjamin had sons Benjamin and William, and James had sons George Benjamin and John. I have a partial? military record for a James Allen (who may or may not be the correct fellow), which indicates he was born 1817 - 1819 and indicates Roxham Norfolk, which I have taken to be either Wroxham (NE of Norwich), or Roxham near Ryston. I am attempting to check out births for both areas. Cheers, Warren -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:20 Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi, when you think Benjamin and James were born ? ife is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> ent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:18 PM ubject: [NFK] : William Allen and Phoebe Firman Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for the Census information. It doesn't appear that Benjamin and James belong to the family of William and Sarah. The information on John and his wife agrees with what I have with them coming to Victoria in the mid 1850's, although Elizabeth at Cambridge is a bit of a mystery, as Thomas would be too young to have had children, and Elizabeth still has the Allen surname (aged 10 in 1851). Perhaps I need to do some checking on the family she is living with in Cambridge. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

have you tried genesreunited ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Armiger" <teddy.29@bigpond.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: [NFK] Armiger > Anyone researching Armiger? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Armiger" <teddy.29@bigpond.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: [NFK] Armiger > Anyone researching Armiger? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carol, thank you :) I haven't come across the posts. Shall do my best to remember to remind you! Regards, Donna, Forster, NSW. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol J Markillie" <cjmarkillie@gmail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] Surnames: KITTERINGHAM / KETTERINGHAM > Hello Rosemary, Donna and Bruce: > > Some years ago I found quite a few KETTERINGHAM/KITTERINGHAM people in > one of the > village parish registers I was working on and I copied them out and > posted them on one of the > mailing lists - think it was Norfolk. Have you gone to the archive to > see if any of your names have been posted already? > > As soon as I can get upstairs - the way is barricaded at present - > I'll look in my big binders for > the postings. If I don't get back to you within the next month, please > give me a 'heads up' > > Happy New Year - > Carol > northwestern Washington State > > On 12/29/11, Rosemary Jones <rjones5622@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Donna (and Bruce, of course), >> >> I intersect with both the KETTERINGHAM and BAILEY families, although not >> that recently. >> >> My grand aunt, Elizabeth REEDER, married Frederick KETTERINGHAM in the >> 3rd >> Qtr of 1889, probably in Great Ellingham. He was a house painter, and >> they >> moved around Norfolk spending time in Great Ellingham, Heigham, Norwich, >> Cranworth, Shipdham and by 1911 were at Wramplingham on the Wymondham >> Road >> where he was a Journeyman Miller as well as House Painter. Elizabeth died >> in 1951 in the North Walsham Registration District. >> >> Elizabeth was born in 1871 to James Thompson REEDER and Elizabeth BARNARD >> at Great Ellingham. My nana, Sarah REEDER, was about 2 years younger than >> Elizabeth. In the 1911 census Elizabeth and Frederick had 10 children, 8 >> still living: >> Frederick James b. 1890 >> Maud Elizabeth b. 1892 >> Eva Mildred b. 1894 >> Donald John b. 1895 >> Hilda Mary b. 1898 >> Bessie Violet b. 1900 >> Sidney Frank b. 1903 >> Routh Evelyn b. 1907 >> There are at least 2 other children who were born and died in between the >> census. >> >> I haven't followed up much on this part of the family and only have the >> bare essentials. >> >> Rosemary >> Tulsa, Oklahoma >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Donna Williams >> <glenshae1@dodo.com.au>wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> my surname instests in Norfolk include: >>> >>> BAILEY: Walpole St Andrew & Peter, Terrington St Clements, West Walton & >>> surrounds. >>> >>> KI/ETTERINGHAM: Walpole St Andrew, Terrington, Clenchwarton, West Walton >>> & >>> surrounds. >>> >>> BACON: Walpole St Andrew & surrounds. >>> >>> PRIOR: Tilney St Lawrence, Totten Hill & surrounds. >>> >>> FULLER: Tilney St Lawrence, Tilney All Saints, Walpole St Andrew & >>> surrounds. >>> >>> DANIEL: Walpole St Peter. >>> >>> SNUSHALL: Guyhirne, Wisbech. >>> >>> THOMPSON: Tilney All Saints. >>> >>> BANHAM: Tilney All Saints. >>> >>> GREEN: Walpole & surrounds. >>> >>> TWEEDY/TWEEDIE/TWIDDEE: Terrington St Clements & surrounds. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Donna. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>> believed to be clean. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Rosie No problem. But having been born in Belton when it was Suffolk, I am now confused(not an unusual state for me!) when , even in Canada I am asked to state my place of birth. Was it Belton , Suffolk or Norfolk? Rest assured this boundary changing is not confined to UK. My present house here in Canada has been in 4 different jurisdictions since it was built in 1972. Gloucester, Nepean, Rideau and now Ottawa! However the word Ottawa does not appear in my postal address ! Dave On 31/12/2011 3:39 AM, xpn11 wrote: > Ah, sorry about that David. County boundaries move in mysterious ways-I > think I can remember writing addresses for Peterborough in > Huntingdonshire, Northamptonshire and Cambridgeshire and the Upwell area > jiggled a bit too. The grand plans of councils brought Gorleston into > Norfolk-some of us think Yarmouth might have been better without it! > If I spot anything more detailed I will post > Rosie. > >

Hi again , in Freereg for James Allen bapt c 1818 , there is a bapt at Wroxham , St Mary , 1819, of James son of Christmas and Sarah Allen , father`s occupation butcher . I had been looking here in W Norfolk for Allens but if you think Roxham might be Wroxham this is for you . However there is at Marham , some 8 miles down the road from Downham and therefore Roxham , a bapt of a James son of William and Hannah Allen , of Marham, labourer in June 1818 . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > Hi Elizabeth, > > I think Benjamin was born approx 1813, and James born approx 1818. I don't > have any parent's names, but Benjamin had sons Benjamin and William, and > James had sons George Benjamin and John. > > I have a partial? military record for a James Allen (who may or may not be > the correct fellow), which indicates he was born 1817 - 1819 and indicates > Roxham Norfolk, which I have taken to be either Wroxham (NE of Norwich), > or Roxham near Ryston. I am attempting to check out births for both areas. > > Cheers, Warren > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> > To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:20 > Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > > Hi, when you think Benjamin and James were born ? > > > ife is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> > o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:18 PM > ubject: [NFK] : William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > > Hi Elizabeth, > > Thanks for the Census information. > > It doesn't appear that Benjamin and James belong to the family of William > and Sarah. The information on John and his wife agrees with what I have > with them coming to Victoria in the mid 1850's, although Elizabeth at > Cambridge is a bit of a mystery, as Thomas would be too young to have had > children, and Elizabeth still has the Allen surname (aged 10 in 1851). > Perhaps I need to do some checking on the family she is living with in > Cambridge. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, barricaded is a worrying word , and if you don`t get upstairs within the next month , run to the neighbours for help !!!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol J Markillie" <cjmarkillie@gmail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] Surnames: KITTERINGHAM / KETTERINGHAM > Hello Rosemary, Donna and Bruce: > > Some years ago I found quite a few KETTERINGHAM/KITTERINGHAM people in > one of the > village parish registers I was working on and I copied them out and > posted them on one of the > mailing lists - think it was Norfolk. Have you gone to the archive to > see if any of your names have been posted already? > > As soon as I can get upstairs - the way is barricaded at present - > I'll look in my big binders for > the postings. If I don't get back to you within the next month, please > give me a 'heads up' > > Happy New Year - > Carol > northwestern Washington State > > On 12/29/11, Rosemary Jones <rjones5622@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Donna (and Bruce, of course), >> >> I intersect with both the KETTERINGHAM and BAILEY families, although not >> that recently. >> >> My grand aunt, Elizabeth REEDER, married Frederick KETTERINGHAM in the >> 3rd >> Qtr of 1889, probably in Great Ellingham. He was a house painter, and >> they >> moved around Norfolk spending time in Great Ellingham, Heigham, Norwich, >> Cranworth, Shipdham and by 1911 were at Wramplingham on the Wymondham >> Road >> where he was a Journeyman Miller as well as House Painter. Elizabeth died >> in 1951 in the North Walsham Registration District. >> >> Elizabeth was born in 1871 to James Thompson REEDER and Elizabeth BARNARD >> at Great Ellingham. My nana, Sarah REEDER, was about 2 years younger than >> Elizabeth. In the 1911 census Elizabeth and Frederick had 10 children, 8 >> still living: >> Frederick James b. 1890 >> Maud Elizabeth b. 1892 >> Eva Mildred b. 1894 >> Donald John b. 1895 >> Hilda Mary b. 1898 >> Bessie Violet b. 1900 >> Sidney Frank b. 1903 >> Routh Evelyn b. 1907 >> There are at least 2 other children who were born and died in between the >> census. >> >> I haven't followed up much on this part of the family and only have the >> bare essentials. >> >> Rosemary >> Tulsa, Oklahoma >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Donna Williams >> <glenshae1@dodo.com.au>wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> my surname instests in Norfolk include: >>> >>> BAILEY: Walpole St Andrew & Peter, Terrington St Clements, West Walton & >>> surrounds. >>> >>> KI/ETTERINGHAM: Walpole St Andrew, Terrington, Clenchwarton, West Walton >>> & >>> surrounds. >>> >>> BACON: Walpole St Andrew & surrounds. >>> >>> PRIOR: Tilney St Lawrence, Totten Hill & surrounds. >>> >>> FULLER: Tilney St Lawrence, Tilney All Saints, Walpole St Andrew & >>> surrounds. >>> >>> DANIEL: Walpole St Peter. >>> >>> SNUSHALL: Guyhirne, Wisbech. >>> >>> THOMPSON: Tilney All Saints. >>> >>> BANHAM: Tilney All Saints. >>> >>> GREEN: Walpole & surrounds. >>> >>> TWEEDY/TWEEDIE/TWIDDEE: Terrington St Clements & surrounds. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Donna. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>> believed to be clean. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, these are the Allen , Benjamin bapts from Freereg between 1809 - 1813 in Norfolk . To retrieve the details of a specific record click on the number in the table below: # Record Type Baptism Date Surname Forename County Place Name Found As 1 Baptisms 19 Nov 1815 Benjamin Norfolk Catfield Mother Surname 2 Baptisms 25 Dec 1808 ALLEN Benjamin Norfolk Great Moulton Father Surname 3 Baptisms 21 Nov 1813 ALLEN Benjamin Norfolk Tunstead Father Surname 4 Baptisms * * 1808 ALLEN Jane Norfolk Hevingham Father Surname 5 Baptisms * * 1811 ALLEN Benjamin Norfolk Hevingham Father Surname 6 Baptisms * * 1814 ALLEN Phabe Norfolk Hevingham Father Surname 7 Baptisms 19 Sep 1813 ALLEN Benjamin Norfolk Cromer Father Surname 8 Baptisms 23 Jan 1814 ALLEN Phoebe Norfolk Hevingham Father Surname 9 Baptisms 02 Mar 1817 ALLEN Susannah Norfolk Hevingham Father Surname 10 Baptisms * * 1813 ALLEN Benjamin Norfolk Tunstead Father Surname 11 Baptisms 20 Mar 1808 ALLEN Jane Norfolk Hevingham At Father Surname 12 Baptisms 21 Apr 1811 ALLEN Benjamin Norfolk Hevingham At Father Surname 13 Baptisms 02 Nov 1810 HUMPHREY Benjamin Norfolk Great Yarmouth Mother Surname 14 Baptisms 21 Mar 1809 SAYERS Benjamin Norfolk Norwich Mother Surname life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > Hi Elizabeth, > > I think Benjamin was born approx 1813, and James born approx 1818. I don't > have any parent's names, but Benjamin had sons Benjamin and William, and > James had sons George Benjamin and John. > > I have a partial? military record for a James Allen (who may or may not be > the correct fellow), which indicates he was born 1817 - 1819 and indicates > Roxham Norfolk, which I have taken to be either Wroxham (NE of Norwich), > or Roxham near Ryston. I am attempting to check out births for both areas. > > Cheers, Warren > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> > To: norfolk <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:20 > Subject: [NFK] William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > > Hi, when you think Benjamin and James were born ? > > > ife is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "Warren Diggins" <digginswj@aol.com> > o: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:18 PM > ubject: [NFK] : William Allen and Phoebe Firman > > > Hi Elizabeth, > > Thanks for the Census information. > > It doesn't appear that Benjamin and James belong to the family of William > and Sarah. The information on John and his wife agrees with what I have > with them coming to Victoria in the mid 1850's, although Elizabeth at > Cambridge is a bit of a mystery, as Thomas would be too young to have had > children, and Elizabeth still has the Allen surname (aged 10 in 1851). > Perhaps I need to do some checking on the family she is living with in > Cambridge. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/business-news/homes_to_be_built_on_a_methwold_graveyard_1_3377747 Just seen this and thought I would post it in case there is anyone on the list who has an ancestor interred there and wants to make a last go at looking at headstones or make a last minute objection. A shockingly insensitive bit of work from the planners, on the same line as that at Upwell a while back. Rosie

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There is a baptism on free reg for a John Parker in 1756 at Barton Bendish just across the fields from Oxborough and one at Downham Market a bit later which might be worth a look at the original to see if it has been mis transcribed or mis written for John Parkes in the original. I assume you have seen the entry on free reg for a marriage of a John Warmes to Ann Parkes 1801 at Oxborough Church and a widow Parkes marrying at Swaffham in 1806 which might give some encouragement for the Parkes being in the area if thin on the ground. As Elizabeth pointed out if they were in the Chapel cottage they may well be employees , might be worth having a look to see where the Bedinngfields had interests- other land and houses, a London home for instance in case John was a member of staff relocated. Rosie On 30/12/2011 13:33, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi, although it doesn`t get you to the birth place of > James Parkes, he and Winifred Gill were married at Cockley Cley in Jan 1809 > . The 1841 census is clear and the James and Winifred are clearly N and Y > , so where James came from is going to be difficult to find. I have tried > the BMD registers of Non conformists which includes Catholic records and can > find nothing for a James Parkes b c 1754. I wonder if they were part of > the Bedingfeld estate workers as they have the Chapel cottage which may be > the lodge by the side gate close by the chapel ? I wonder if the NRO has > any papers for the Oxbrough extate ? > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay Wright"<mktadhg@net.bluemoon.net> > To: "Norfolk rootsweb"<NORFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:45 PM > Subject: [NFK] Surnames - BUTTERS, GILL, PARKES > > >> James PARKES& wife Winefrid GILL PARKES were residing in >> Oxborough1809-1859 when Winefrid died. >> Their son, Joseph, married Louisa BUTTER, living in Goldestone. >> >> Winefrid GILL was born in NFK, James was not. >> Brick wall--where was he born??? >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ah, sorry about that David. County boundaries move in mysterious ways-I think I can remember writing addresses for Peterborough in Huntingdonshire, Northamptonshire and Cambridgeshire and the Upwell area jiggled a bit too. The grand plans of councils brought Gorleston into Norfolk-some of us think Yarmouth might have been better without it! If I spot anything more detailed I will post Rosie. On 30/12/2011 14:16, David Tennant wrote: > Rosie > I've done a bit of Googling and have not, as yet, found anything re > country wide movements at the Parish level, Genuki appears to say that > its counties list refer to the pre 1974 arrangements and there are a few > web sites which refer to specific counties. As well Family Search gives > a breakdown of the post and pre 1974 Scottish setup but only in terms of > what is now named what! > What, if any, County(ad hoc?) realignments' eg those that brought > Gorleston and Cobholm into Gt Yarmouth took place prior to 1974? As > Julie suggested , even well before 1974, some parish records may have > been held at Record's Offices out side of their counties. > I note Newmarket remains in Suffolk although before the expansion of > Suffolk territory around the town it self the connection to Suffolk is > little more than the width of the road! The burghers there must wield > considerable influence in high -places! > Dave > > On 28/12/2011 7:54 PM, xpn11 wrote: >> I think Genuki may have a page -I think I have seen one-but not quite >> sure what to google plus Genuki to find it again. >> Rosie >> >> On 28/12/2011 16:38, David Tennant wrote: >>> Julie >>> I think the NE of Suffolk came under the Norwich diocese. I am unaware >>> of the exact division between Norwich, Bury St Edmunds dioceses. On >>> this note I see that FreeREG still has the villages that were "usurped" >>> by Norfolk in the mid 70s in the Suffolk list of Parishes in FreeREG >>> (With the exception of Belton which does not appear in either Norfolk or >>> Suffolk. Of particular interest to me as my pob!) As this change was in >>> the "relatively " recent past it may be general knowledge. As a matter >>> of interest is there a resource that might indicate any other Parishes >>> which have changed counties over the years. As an example I am sure that >>> Gorleston, Southown and Cobholm, now firmly part of Gt Yarmouth and >>> Norfolk, were in Suffolk around the start of the 1900s >>> A Happy New Year to all >>> Dave >>> >>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth - thanks for that. I like the idea of James DUNCAN being transported - his son, Ezra in the 1881 census is an inmate in Pentonville prison - like father like son? And I had missed the "w" in Elizabeth PRIEST's census record. Thanks Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:24 PM Subject: [NFK] PRIEST & DUNCAN, Gimingham & Trunch > Hi, there is by chance perhaps a Jas Duncan , convicted > in > Norwich in 1830 and sentenced to 14 yrs , 7 yrs on each count of theft of > a > cloak and theft of carpenters tools, to Bermuda .......he is aged 24 in > 1830. Of course that may not be him and it does not say where he was > born > ....but it may be and it would explain his absence . > The 1851 census shows Elizabeth Priest , head, W, 82? , > pauper, b Gimingham, with Charlotte Duncan, dau , W , 44 , nurse, b > Gimingham, and Ezra Duncan, grandson, unm, 16, carter, b Trunch, and > Charlotte , granddau, unm, 14 , scholar, b Trunch . > So on the basis of the information on the census , self > provided so not necessarily the gospel truth, she is a widow as is > Charlotte > . In the Gimingham records on IGI are a couple Thomas and > Elizabeth > Press having children around 1799 -- 1808 also Preist and Priest , and > this > could be your Elizabeth Priest or her family . > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Hyde" <phyde67@bigpond.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:55 AM > Subject: [NFK] PRIEST & DUNCAN, Gimingham & Trunch > > >> Hi All: >> >> >> >> Charlotte PRIEST was born in Gimingham around 1806 and baptised there on >> 11 May 1806, to Elizabeth PRIEST. No father is mentioned in the baptism >> record. Charlotte had at least 5 children, William Wells PRIEST (Apr >> 1828), Mary Ann DUNCAN (1830-1897), Emma Duncan (1834), Ezra DUNCAN >> (1834-1902), Charlotte Duncan (1837). She married James DUNCAN in Trunch >> in 1829. >> >> >> >> Elizabeth and her daughter Charlotte appear in the 1841 and 1851 censuses >> in Trunch, and Elizabeth appears to have been born in Gimingham around >> 1770. >> >> >> >> I have hit a brick wall over Elizabeth. Was her maiden name PRIEST, and >> she never married? Was she a widow at the time of Charlotte's birth? >> And >> where/when was she born and to whom? >> >> >> >> The second wall is James DUNCAN - he presumably died before the 1841 >> census. Where/when was he born, and to whom? >> >> >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Elizabeth PRIEST is my 4xgt >> grandmother >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Peter >> >> South Australia, 36 degrees, sunny >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lisa, Here are the children of Robert Nicholas and Elizabeth Doughty (nee Burcham) 1) William Nicholas Doughty - a shoemaker never married born 1849 at Ryburng Norfold, died March Qtr 1913 aged 63 Reg. in Portsmouth. 2) John Doughty 1854 Tottenham. Middlesex. Joined the Navy, was stationed in Portsmouth. Died 1921 Portsmouth. 3) Robert John Doughty born 1851 - Norfolk, died NSW Australia in 1929 4) James Doughty born 1857 Plumstead Kent died 1925, NSW, Australia 5) George Frederick Doughty born 1859 Plumstead, Kent. Died 1921 Reg in Portsmouth. 6) Elizabeth Ann Doughty born 1861 Plumstead, Kent.(married Frederi Nicholas) died Gosport 1947 aged 85. 7) Henry (Harry) Doughty born 1864 Farlington, Hampshire, died died 1955 in Sydney, Australia. 8) Arthur Doughty born 1867 Purbrook, Hampshire, died Nov 1939 in Sydney, Australia. 9) Charles Doughty born 1869 Portsea died of typhoid fever and heat eshaustion June 1895, Goolgardie, Wester Australia. 10) Alfred Doughty born 1872 in Portsea, Hampshire. Died 1942 in 1942 in Portsmouth aged 70. Where Alfred was after the 1881 Census, at the age of 9 with his family at The George Public House in Portsea, until his death in 1942 is another mystery. If we are to believe a daughter of Arthur Doughty's, she was told by her father that there were eleven sons and one daughter and that three boys, her father told her had left for Canada before he ever knew them. A mystery that has not been solved. Happy New Year Everyone. We Down Under are on the count down to 2012 and we will be there before our friends in the Northern Hemisphere. There promises to be a great fireworks display on Sydney Harbour, where we will once again try and blow the Sydney Harbour Bridge to smithereens, each year it gets better. The convicts, our ancestors, if they could come back, would not believe thier eyes. Would be great if we could give you the winning Lotto numbers from the present to the past. Wishful thinking. Cheers Janice Belrose - Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Dayley" <girdlestonesrustoo@gmail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] UPDATING NAMES DOUGHTY > Dear Janice: > I wondered if you had the names of Robert Nicholas Doughtry and Elizabeth > Burcham's children? I have Elizabeth and Robert John. do you know the > names > of the other children. > Thanks > Lisa dayley > Burley Idaho > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Janice Doughty > <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > >> Hello Listers, >> >> Updating names:- >> >> DOUGHTY >> SAILER >> CHILVERS >> GATHERCOLE >> GRIFFIN >> SEEKING >> BURCHAM >>

My thanks go to Honor and Alan for your replies to my querry. I have the information from the marriage of James & Winefrid in 1809, 1841 & 51 census info. James died in 1843 and Winefrid in 1859. Their son, James is my direct ancestor so I have his information and some on Joseph who married Louisa BUTTER and remained in NFK. James' birthplace is the mystery. Supposedly the family came from Ireland. (may or not be true) I need to find more information on the GILL family. Thanks again, Kay