Hi, Rosemary, Thank you for the help....this address makes more sense :-{). Now to have some fun with it..thanks again, Scott B From: Rosemary Jones <rjones5622@gmail.com> >To: mime <mykinmik@yahoo.com>; norfolk@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 9:23:14 PM >Subject: Re: [NFK] Norfolk Registers on Family Search > > >https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1416598 > >Rosemary > >

Did your search look for chapels which no longer exist Richard? Did the NRO result mean that they were the only three chapels in the area at the time or that they are the only ones with records? The Genuki site http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/norfolk/gaz-and-dir/parishes/ misses two chapels that I know of -Dilham and Honing-although they are too late for your purposes. Just wondering if there were earlier buildings that are long gone and records lost so that they only appear in village records as archaeology. Or if the baptism might have fallen at a time when meetings were being held in houses before chapels were built and where the records may have been misplaced . Of course not a lot of use to you if there are no baptism records but might explain the missing baptisms. Rosie On 05/01/2012 17:28, elizabeth howard wrote: > Sherlock Myhill !!! unfortunately I cannot get onto the BMD non > conformist registers to check , but have credits going to waste so will try > again tomorrow. Unless you get there before me . But I admire your > dissection of your problem , if it aint this it must be that !!! > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richard"<richardmyhill43@btinternet.com> > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:36 PM > Subject: [NFK] A "HART" PROBLEM > > >> Hi all, >> I have been trying to find the baptism of ELEANOR HART c.1776 in the North >> Walsham area without success,i have her marriage to JAMES CROWE >> 15.06.1796, (both single of this parish), and also her burial, age 44. in >> North Walsham 24.03.1820, but i cannot find anything else about her in the >> parish register. >> I realise that being 'single of this parish' is only where the individual >> is residing at the time of the marriage and not a guide to their origin,so >> using parish locator i identified all the parishes within a 5 mile radius >> of North Walsham and worked my way through all the parish registers.Other >> than a couple of entries in Smallburgh there were no entries for the name >> Hart at all. I then expanded the search area to a 10 mile radius, in all >> about 100 parishes,but still no Hart families. >> So i changed tactics and recorded all the entries in the North Walsham >> register for the name Hart between 1750-1800,and the results were >> suprising considering our previous lack of success, a total of 30 entries. >> Digging a bit deeper i found that there were 5 families having children >> baptised during this period, 3 of which only had 1 child baptised in North >> Walsham, which is strange for 250 years ago. Also there were 9 marriages >> for members of the Hart family,all shown as 'of this parish' who were not >> baptised in North Walsham,and again 3 burials with no baptism found. >> I then wondered if all these missing Harts belonged to an independent >> church and were just married or buried at North Walsham parish church ,but >> a trip to the Norfolk Record Office showed that there were only three >> independent churches in the area,Worstead, Bradfield and Aylsham,none of >> which had the name Hart in their registers. >> I am now stumped for ideas and have no idea where to look next to find >> these missing people. >> Has any other lister come across a similar problem, >> Many thanks, >> >> Richard Myhill >> >> richardmyhill43@btinternet.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter, Have been looking thru the https://www.familysearch.org/ site and could not find and search facility under the Nofolk Registers.  Am guessing you may be approaching them from a different address. May I ask what address you are using? Thanks for your help. Scott B From: Peter <peter@pwbanham.co.uk> >To: norfolk@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:57:27 AM >Subject: [NFK] Norfolk Registers on Family Search > >Hi All > >I don't know if this has already been posted, but today I found that the >Family Search site of images of the Norfolk Registers now has a search >facility that wasn't there last time I looked. > >The site indicates that it was updated on 28 December 1911. > >Clearly only a very small percentage of the images have been transcribed, >but >if you do find anything of interest a single click will open the register >image. > >Regards > >Peter Banham > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

On 2012/01/05 17:59, David Scott wrote: > I have taken the opportunity of holidays and bad weather to do some > genealogical spring-cleaning. I have discovered a host of old disks, 5.25 > inch and 3.5, which are between ten and thirty years old. Several computers > on, I find I cannot access these pearls of family history, and wonder whether > anyone knows of ways of retrieving them. I think they are probably in > Wordstar (God bless it!) I'd bin the floppies, since you're unlikely to find a diskette drive for them. The stiffies on the other hand, could just about be salvageable. You should still be able to find a diskette drive to read them. After that, assuming the disks can still be read, it's just a small(?) matter of finding software that will read the files. If Wordstar was used, then you might locate some free- or share-ware that will convert them to a more modern format. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

On 2012/01/05 17:20, David Tennant wrote: > ///I have just located the Marriage Bond of my many times GF William > Skitmore on the LDS site and have a question or two, see partial > transcription below most of which is a standard form. > 1) This is an "application" for his marriage by License? He was married > on the day stated No, it's the "Bond". > 2) The payment of 200 pounds is some kind of penalty? Only if the marriage doesn't take place. > 3) The significance of the date 25 March 1754 That's when Lord Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753 ("An Act for the Better Preventing of Clandestine Marriage") came into force. > 4)Who was Wharton Park The agent of the Bishop? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Sherlock Myhill !!! unfortunately I cannot get onto the BMD non conformist registers to check , but have credits going to waste so will try again tomorrow. Unless you get there before me . But I admire your dissection of your problem , if it aint this it must be that !!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard" <richardmyhill43@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: [NFK] A "HART" PROBLEM > Hi all, > I have been trying to find the baptism of ELEANOR HART c.1776 in the North > Walsham area without success,i have her marriage to JAMES CROWE > 15.06.1796, (both single of this parish), and also her burial, age 44. in > North Walsham 24.03.1820, but i cannot find anything else about her in the > parish register. > I realise that being 'single of this parish' is only where the individual > is residing at the time of the marriage and not a guide to their origin,so > using parish locator i identified all the parishes within a 5 mile radius > of North Walsham and worked my way through all the parish registers.Other > than a couple of entries in Smallburgh there were no entries for the name > Hart at all. I then expanded the search area to a 10 mile radius, in all > about 100 parishes,but still no Hart families. > So i changed tactics and recorded all the entries in the North Walsham > register for the name Hart between 1750-1800,and the results were > suprising considering our previous lack of success, a total of 30 entries. > Digging a bit deeper i found that there were 5 families having children > baptised during this period, 3 of which only had 1 child baptised in North > Walsham, which is strange for 250 years ago. Also there were 9 marriages > for members of the Hart family,all shown as 'of this parish' who were not > baptised in North Walsham,and again 3 burials with no baptism found. > I then wondered if all these missing Harts belonged to an independent > church and were just married or buried at North Walsham parish church ,but > a trip to the Norfolk Record Office showed that there were only three > independent churches in the area,Worstead, Bradfield and Aylsham,none of > which had the name Hart in their registers. > I am now stumped for ideas and have no idea where to look next to find > these missing people. > Has any other lister come across a similar problem, > Many thanks, > > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

David, You can purchase both size floppies that connect with a USB drive. I wrote an article for FamilySearch Tech tips about these kind of situations here: https://www.familysearch.org/techtips/2011/10/the-box-of-mixed-media-treasures Hope this helps, Claire Claire V. Brisson-Banks, BS, MLIS, AG(r) Family History Library Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 801-240-1662 801-455-6271 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: David Scott [mailto:david972scott@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:59 AM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Old Computer Disks Hi All, I hope this is not too off topic, but some of the information is on Norfolk. I have taken the opportunity of holidays and bad weather to do some genealogical spring-cleaning. I have discovered a host of old disks, 5.25 inch and 3.5, which are between ten and thirty years old. Several computers on, I find I cannot access these pearls of family history, and wonder whether anyone knows of ways of retrieving them. I think they are probably in Wordstar (God bless it!) Any suggestions much appreciated, even if, sadly, that is to bin the lot~! David Scott. NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

I can agree with this , and have one by me for early Muster rolls for Devon which came on 3.5 disks and it works well . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Acorn Cottage" <orange.wasps@live.co.uk> To: <david972scott@btinternet.com>; <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] Old Computer Disks >I think you can still buy peripheral USB diskette readers - try eBay (but > other online stores are available!). > > Ruth > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Scott >> Sent: 05 January 2012 15:59 >> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NFK] Old Computer Disks >> >> Hi All, >> I hope this is not too off topic, but some of the information >> is on Norfolk. >> >> I have taken the opportunity of holidays and bad weather to >> do some genealogical spring-cleaning. I have discovered a >> host of old disks, 5.25 inch and 3.5, which are between ten >> and thirty years old. Several computers on, I find I cannot >> access these pearls of family history, and wonder whether >> anyone knows of ways of retrieving them. I think they are >> probably in Wordstar (God bless it!) >> Any suggestions much appreciated, even if, sadly, that is to >> bin the lot~! >> David Scott. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You don't say whether your problem is (a) not having a suitable disc drive; (b) having a disc drive but being unable to read the data; or (c) being able to address disc but not having the right software to read the files. If (a), then you have to get hold of a computer with a suitable old-style drive (remember that if you buy or borrow an old drive your present computer may not have the right connections to fit it). If (b), the data is unreadable and you learn the lesson that you need to have a programme of backing up important files. If (c), you should be able to restore the data to a modern file format though it may be more complicated than it's worth restoring all the formatting. There are specialist firms that will do it for you, for a fee. -- Christopher Pipe BA DipLib MCLIP researching and indexing Norfolk history cp@wmk.demon.co.uk (and see www.cromerdictionary.co.uk) -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Scott Sent: 05 January 2012 15:59 To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Old Computer Disks Hi All, I hope this is not too off topic, but some of the information is on Norfolk. I have taken the opportunity of holidays and bad weather to do some genealogical spring-cleaning. I have discovered a host of old disks, 5.25 inch and 3.5, which are between ten and thirty years old. Several computers on, I find I cannot access these pearls of family history, and wonder whether anyone knows of ways of retrieving them. I think they are probably in Wordstar (God bless it!) Any suggestions much appreciated, even if, sadly, that is to bin the lot~! David Scott. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No idea but one thought- I see that North Walsham had its own parish workhouse before the Erpingham union was set up and the date is early enough for your Hart-any chance that a baptism might have been done there and recorded apart from those in church? Is there an indication that they were well off enough to travel to Cromer or Norwich Perhaps they just did not bother-one wonders what the uptake on baptisms was at different times. Rosie On 05/01/2012 14:36, richard wrote: > Hi all, > I have been trying to find the baptism of ELEANOR HART c.1776 in the North Walsham area without success,i have her marriage to JAMES CROWE 15.06.1796, (both single of this parish), and also her burial, age 44. in North Walsham 24.03.1820, but i cannot find anything else about her in the parish register. > I realise that being 'single of this parish' is only where the individual is residing at the time of the marriage and not a guide to their origin,so using parish locator i identified all the parishes within a 5 mile radius of North Walsham and worked my way through all the parish registers.Other than a couple of entries in Smallburgh there were no entries for the name Hart at all. I then expanded the search area to a 10 mile radius, in all about 100 parishes,but still no Hart families. > So i changed tactics and recorded all the entries in the North Walsham register for the name Hart between 1750-1800,and the results were suprising considering our previous lack of success, a total of 30 entries. Digging a bit deeper i found that there were 5 families having children baptised during this period, 3 of which only had 1 child baptised in North Walsham, which is strange for 250 years ago. Also there were 9 marriages for members of the Hart family,all shown as 'of this parish' who were not baptised in North Walsham,and again 3 burials with no baptism found. > I then wondered if all these missing Harts belonged to an independent church and were just married or buried at North Walsham parish church ,but a trip to the Norfolk Record Office showed that there were only three independent churches in the area,Worstead, Bradfield and Aylsham,none of which had the name Hart in their registers. > I am now stumped for ideas and have no idea where to look next to find these missing people. > Has any other lister come across a similar problem, > Many thanks, > > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think you can still buy peripheral USB diskette readers - try eBay (but other online stores are available!). Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Scott > Sent: 05 January 2012 15:59 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Old Computer Disks > > Hi All, > I hope this is not too off topic, but some of the information > is on Norfolk. > > I have taken the opportunity of holidays and bad weather to > do some genealogical spring-cleaning. I have discovered a > host of old disks, 5.25 inch and 3.5, which are between ten > and thirty years old. Several computers on, I find I cannot > access these pearls of family history, and wonder whether > anyone knows of ways of retrieving them. I think they are > probably in Wordstar (God bless it!) > Any suggestions much appreciated, even if, sadly, that is to > bin the lot~! > David Scott. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, I hope this is not too off topic, but some of the information is on Norfolk. I have taken the opportunity of holidays and bad weather to do some genealogical spring-cleaning. I have discovered a host of old disks, 5.25 inch and 3.5, which are between ten and thirty years old. Several computers on, I find I cannot access these pearls of family history, and wonder whether anyone knows of ways of retrieving them. I think they are probably in Wordstar (God bless it!) Any suggestions much appreciated, even if, sadly, that is to bin the lot~! David Scott.

I can answer #3. It's the day the 1753 Marriage Act came into force. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_Act_1753 regards Sheila >________________________________ > From: David Tennant <d_jtennant@sympatico.ca> >To: norfolk@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2012, 15:20 >Subject: [NFK] Marriage Bond Question > >///I have just located the Marriage Bond of my many times GF William >Skitmore on the LDS site and have a question or two, see partial >transcription below most of which is a standard form. >1) This is an "application" for his marriage by License? He was married >on the day stated >2) The payment of 200 pounds is some kind of penalty? >3) The significance of the date 25 March 1754 >4)Who was Wharton Park >Dave >/ > > >//// > >/Know all Men by these Presents, That We/William Skitmore of the City of >Norwich? ? ? ? ? Nov? of ? in the County of Norfolk? /are holden and >firmly bound to/ the worshipful Wharton Park Doctor of Laws >Commissionary throughout the Archdeaconary of Norwicvh lawfully >constituted/in the sum of Two Hundred Pounds of good and lawful Money of >Great Britain, to be paid to the said /Wharton Park (?) /or his certain >Attorney, Successors or Agents To which payment well and truly to be >made, we bind/ /ourselves, and each of us by himself for the whole, our >and each of our Heirs Executors and Administrators, firmly by these >Presents, Sealed with our Seals, Dated the/ EighteenthDay of October/in >the Year of our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and/Sixty Eight** > >/The Condition of this Obligation is such, That if hearafter there fall >not appear any lawful Let or Impediment, by Reason of any Precontract >entered into before the Twenty-Fith of March 1754, / > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Grin and bear it. Remember that many of the items you will be allowed access to have considerable monetary value on the open market as well as being unique, and being able to identify who had access to a missing or damaged document is part of the deterrent against theft. Three additional comments which I hope are helpful: 1) if you'd rather spend the 15 minutes or so this process could take in doing real research, you could look for a member of the CARN network more local to you, and get you card there in advance. There is a PDF document here that lists them. http://www.archives.org.uk/general/county-archive-research-network-carn.html If you are only using fiche or file, rather than original documents, then generally you will not need the CARN card. 2) You can normally order documents up in advance of getting there, so they are waiting for you when you arrive (rather than have to wait for the periodic document retrieval). In any case, it is always worth checking that the documents you want to look at are available (e.g. not withdrawn for conservation), and what format they are in, as this will help with planning your use of time. 3) I'd recommend if you have a few minutes to spare popping into the Norfolk FHS at Kirby House and seeing what they have available. While you need to be a member to use the resources, the annual membership fee is less than your travel costs will be, and I'm sure if they are not too busy, someone would be only too happy to identify what they have that would help you if you did join (assuming you are not already a member). Details of location and times of opening here: http://www.norfolkfhs.org.uk/library/library.htm regards Keith Drage Swindon UK > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Treetopsfarm@aol.com > Sent: 05 January 2012 08:31 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] NRO > > > Their security is tighter than my Dr. surgery! Thanks for the info. > > Richard > > > In a message dated 05/01/2012 03:38:36 GMT Standard Time, > drageke@ntlworld.com writes: > > A passport will help but may not be sufficient. Take something > additionally > that links your name to a valid address (a utility bill or > suchlike). A UK > passport will not do that. > > I found the following text on another record office site but the > requirements should be much the same. > > "CARN tickets can be issued on the day of your visit. You will need to > complete a simple form and produce some proof of identity with your name, > current address and signature such as: > > Driving licence (which contains all three pieces of information > required on > one document) > Bank / credit card > Passport (note that UK passports do not give your address) > Bank statement > Utility bill > Post Office savings book > Disabled person's registration > Pension book > Some of these will need to be used together." > > > regards > > Keith Drage > Swindon UK > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Treetopsfarm@aol.com > > Sent: 04 January 2012 13:34 > > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [NFK] NRO > > > > > > Thanks David - I'll take my passport! > > > > Richard > > > > > > In a message dated 04/01/2012 12:46:04 GMT Standard Time, > > david@rudram.org > > writes: > > > > I agree that NRO is a nice modern RO with helpful staff. > They'll let > > you look at microform records with minimal formalities but you'll need > > to identify your self if you want access to original > documents. NRO is > > a member of CARN (County Archive Research Network) so if you already > > have a card that will be all that you need. If you don't or it's > > expired like mine was this summer you'll need to provide proof of > > identity. I can't recall what they wanted but if you have two pieces > > with a photograph and an address between them is the usually what is > > needed. > > > > David Rudram > > > > On 04/01/2012 11:36, Treetopsfarm@aol.com wrote: > > > Actually, yours was the first! Many thanks for the NROCAT > idea - I'll > > > look at that before I go and have a plan ready! This forum is > > so much > > better > > > than most I've joined - must be the members! > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 04/01/2012 11:30:00 GMT Standard Time, > > > elizgh@btinternet.com writes: > > > > > > Hi, I am sure you will have had many encouraging emails in > > > response . NRO is fine , a good place helpful staff and a fairly > > simple > > > indexing system to both parishes and names . I have > just googled > > NROCAT > > > and in the quick search box put Harbord and there are some > 29 pages > of > > > references to Harbord . It looks as if you could spend a > > month there > > on > > > the Harbords !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From:<Treetopsfarm@aol.com> > > > To:<norfolk@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:47 AM > > > Subject: [NFK] NRO > > > > > > > > >> Hi all > > >> > > >> I have two relatives who are working with me on our > mutual family > of > > >> Harbords. Although Jean (NFK lister) has been extremely > > helpful > > in > > >> overcoming > > >> a "brick wall", more unresolved questions have come to > > light. As the > > UK > > >> representative of the family group, I feel it is down to > > me to make > > the > > > > > >> trip > > >> to study what documents I can find in Norfolk that are not > > online. I > > >> have > > >> read that the Norwich Record Office contains a lot of > > material, but > > can > > >> anyone advise me who has been there - Is it available for public > > >> scrutiny? > > >> Do you have to book? Do you have to pay and if so, how much? Is > > the > > >> information detailed? > > >> > > >> I would be very grateful for any advice, and also if > there are any > > other > > >> recommended places to visit when I am there. I gather > > Gunton Park is > > not > > >> open to visitors, but would not expect to find much historical > > > information > > >> there anyway. > > >> > > >> Richard Harbord, Somerset > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject > > and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I have been trying to find the baptism of ELEANOR HART c.1776 in the North Walsham area without success,i have her marriage to JAMES CROWE 15.06.1796, (both single of this parish), and also her burial, age 44. in North Walsham 24.03.1820, but i cannot find anything else about her in the parish register. I realise that being 'single of this parish' is only where the individual is residing at the time of the marriage and not a guide to their origin,so using parish locator i identified all the parishes within a 5 mile radius of North Walsham and worked my way through all the parish registers.Other than a couple of entries in Smallburgh there were no entries for the name Hart at all. I then expanded the search area to a 10 mile radius, in all about 100 parishes,but still no Hart families. So i changed tactics and recorded all the entries in the North Walsham register for the name Hart between 1750-1800,and the results were suprising considering our previous lack of success, a total of 30 entries. Digging a bit deeper i found that there were 5 families having children baptised during this period, 3 of which only had 1 child baptised in North Walsham, which is strange for 250 years ago. Also there were 9 marriages for members of the Hart family,all shown as 'of this parish' who were not baptised in North Walsham,and again 3 burials with no baptism found. I then wondered if all these missing Harts belonged to an independent church and were just married or buried at North Walsham parish church ,but a trip to the Norfolk Record Office showed that there were only three independent churches in the area,Worstead, Bradfield and Aylsham,none of which had the name Hart in their registers. I am now stumped for ideas and have no idea where to look next to find these missing people. Has any other lister come across a similar problem, Many thanks, Richard Myhill richardmyhill43@btinternet.com

Try contacting the small finds unit at Gressenhall. They have a very interesting open day and from when we have taken bits in ( found in mole hills, always worth a kick to see what they bring up) have been very good about telling us what it is and they seem to have a strong feedback and recording relationship with metal detectorists . Rosie On 05/01/2012 12:34, Mark Kirby wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Although my own family heritage is not from Norfolk or Suffolk I have lived > and worked in the area for some time. I am a keen but amateur local > historian and have collated& contributed a number of documents to local > parish councils in the area. I am glad to say that I have always found the > Suffolk and Norfolk lists very helpful in this respect. > > But my mail is a more general which I would appreciate the lists views on. > A natural extension to my family history interests is a wider interest the > history of the areas where people lived and in recent times I have taken up > the hobby of metal detecting which I have found very useful in > understanding the history of an area. But I am keen to investigate ways in > which I can link the two hobbies of family/local history and metal > detecting and I wondered if listers had any ideas on this or indeed had any > stories or experience of how this may have been done? > > Regards > Mark > > PS. I live in the Beccles/Lowestoft area if anyone knows any farmers or > landowners in North Suffolk/South Norfolk who might be interested in giving > permission for metal detector surveys on their property I would be very > interested to hear from you. Or even if you have a large back garden!! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, Although my own family heritage is not from Norfolk or Suffolk I have lived and worked in the area for some time. I am a keen but amateur local historian and have collated & contributed a number of documents to local parish councils in the area. I am glad to say that I have always found the Suffolk and Norfolk lists very helpful in this respect. But my mail is a more general which I would appreciate the lists views on. A natural extension to my family history interests is a wider interest the history of the areas where people lived and in recent times I have taken up the hobby of metal detecting which I have found very useful in understanding the history of an area. But I am keen to investigate ways in which I can link the two hobbies of family/local history and metal detecting and I wondered if listers had any ideas on this or indeed had any stories or experience of how this may have been done? Regards Mark PS. I live in the Beccles/Lowestoft area if anyone knows any farmers or landowners in North Suffolk/South Norfolk who might be interested in giving permission for metal detector surveys on their property I would be very interested to hear from you. Or even if you have a large back garden!!

Hi Carol, thank you for risking life & limb to look in your binders for me :) I shall keep looking through rootsweb. Regards, Donna. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol J Markillie" <cjmarkillie@gmail.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [NFK] Surnames: KITTERINGHAM / KETTERINGHAM > Hello: > > I did get myself up the stairs - a bit worrisome as they were homemade > and then the remodeling contractor tore out the top part of the stairs > and made a doorway on the side so the bannister is not attached to > anything except one nail goes somewhere in the vicinity of the post > about 2" away - too far for that nail. > > I looked in my 'posting binders' and did not find any KITTERINGHAM / > KETTERINGHAM but know that I did quite a lot on those names for a > woman who looked up all the possible MARKILLIEs/MARKLEYs in the United > States and posted them to me. > > Keep looking through the rootsweb years as it might have been sooner > than 1999 - t hat was when I started reading parish registers. > > Also, in Rootsweb's search box, just put the one surname at a time and > see if any of those postings come up - they will probably be privately > submitted items. > > Good Hunting - > Carol > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

I've just found this https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Marriage_Allegations,_Bonds_and_Licences_in_England_and_Wales Explains all I think. Dave On 05/01/2012 11:18 AM, David Tennant wrote: > Mike and Sheila > Thanks > Ok . Perhaps you can explain the process. A Bond comes first and then > the License? > I'm a bit uncertain as to why a license rather than Banns. In my > experience of transcribing for FreeREG it seemed to me that most > marriages by license occurred when one party was from another Parish. In > this particular instance the Bond and PR marriage entry state of this > Parish , albeit maybe for a short period > This gentleman is my long standing brickwall. I was excited to find > this, for me, new piece of evidence but then disappointed that it just > says "over 21" which puts me no closer to his actual birth date. > Dave (married by Banns!) > > On 05/01/2012 10:38 AM, Mike Fry wrote: >> On 2012/01/05 17:20, David Tennant wrote: >> >>> ///I have just located the Marriage Bond of my many times GF William >>> Skitmore on the LDS site and have a question or two, see partial >>> transcription below most of which is a standard form. >>> 1) This is an "application" for his marriage by License? He was married >>> on the day stated >> No, it's the "Bond". >> >>> 2) The payment of 200 pounds is some kind of penalty? >> Only if the marriage doesn't take place. >> >>> 3) The significance of the date 25 March 1754 >> That's when Lord Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753 ("An Act for the Better >> Preventing of Clandestine Marriage") came into force. >> >>> 4)Who was Wharton Park >> The agent of the Bishop? >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

David Know your problem only too well;Electronic Dinosaurs! Isn't a paper record(even non archival) wonderful! Dave On 05/01/2012 10:59 AM, David Scott wrote: > Hi All, > I hope this is not too off topic, but some of the information is on Norfolk. > > I have taken the opportunity of holidays and bad weather to do some genealogical spring-cleaning. I have discovered a host of old disks, 5.25 inch and 3.5, which are between ten and thirty years old. Several computers on, I find I cannot access these pearls of family history, and wonder whether anyone knows of ways of retrieving them. I think they are probably in Wordstar (God bless it!) > Any suggestions much appreciated, even if, sadly, that is to bin the lot~! > David Scott. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >