Do you have a subscription to ancestry? - they may be there - let me know the names you are seeking and I will have a look on a few sites. Paul ________________________________ From: Betty <familyflood@live.com> To: 'Paul Eggleton' <tenniseggpaul@sbcglobal.net>; norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 8:38 PM Subject: RE: [NFK] MARRIAGE LICENSES Thank you so much Paul for answering my email  I was actually hoping that the marriage licences covered all counties as my ggg grandparents married in St Marys Calne Wiltshire in 1804 Kind regards, Betty -----Original Message----- From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Eggleton Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2012 12:12 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFK] MARRIAGE LICENSES You don't actually say which time period and I presume you mean Norfolk, in which case the new LDS site has a load of Norfolk parish records on line including a browsing facility so you can actually see and print off the images. Norfolk so far is the only county with substantial records in a browsable form. Paul ________________________________ From: Betty <familyflood@live.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 4:55 PM Subject: [NFK] MARRIAGE LICENSES G'Day Would some kind person please  tell me where on the internet I can search for marriage licences Kind regards Betty Flood Looking for BUSH HOWARD FLOOD BLACKLING BLACKCLOTH ORTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You don't actually say which time period and I presume you mean Norfolk, in which case the new LDS site has a load of Norfolk parish records on line including a browsing facility so you can actually see and print off the images. Norfolk so far is the only county with substantial records in a browsable form. Paul ________________________________ From: Betty <familyflood@live.com> To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 4:55 PM Subject: [NFK] MARRIAGE LICENSES G'Day Would some kind person please  tell me where on the internet I can search for marriage licences Kind regards Betty Flood Looking for BUSH HOWARD FLOOD BLACKLING BLACKCLOTH ORTON ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2012/01/09 16:35, David Tennant wrote: > Looking at the Marriage Bond images on the LDS site, I note that all of > them (at least those at which I have looked) have another person and his > occupation listed in addition to the person who is to be married. > What is the reason for this? I think the answer will be found in the fine detail of Hardwicke's 1753 Marriage Act, and take the form of some kind of sworn witness. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

This person acted as "guarantor" so if a problem arose, and the person to be married couldn't/wouldn't pay the fine, then the guarantor had to. Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Tennant > Sent: 09 January 2012 14:36 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Marriage Bonds, another question > > Looking at the Marriage Bond images on the LDS site, I note > that all of them (at least those at which I have looked) have > another person and his occupation listed in addition to the > person who is to be married. > What is the reason for this? > Dave > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike and Ruth. Thanks for your inputs. I've taken Mike's suggestion and done a bit of looking around and have come up with this: "The bond, sworn "by two sufficient witnesses", one of whom was usually the groom, his father or a friend, pledged to forfeit a large sum of money (ranging from £40 to £200), if there was any consanguinity (a relationship within the prohibited degrees) between the parties or any pre-contract to another person. The large sum of money to be forfeit was intended to underline the serious nature of the oath, and it should not be thought that the couple had these funds at their disposal. The second bondsman soon became a formality, any convenient person acting. Later the second bondsman was often completely fictitious, names like John Doe and Richard Row being used" So the 2nd person might or might not have connections to the potential groom. I was hoping that , in my instance, researching the 2nd person could possible shed some light on my ancestor but maybe not. He may have been just a "convenient person" In this case, if indeed he came from Poringland, as stated on the Bond, then he may well have connections to the Bride's family, Gillingwater, who had connections to that village. Dave On 09/01/2012 9:57 AM, Mike Fry wrote: > On 2012/01/09 16:35, David Tennant wrote: > >> Looking at the Marriage Bond images on the LDS site, I note that all of >> them (at least those at which I have looked) have another person and his >> occupation listed in addition to the person who is to be married. >> What is the reason for this? > I think the answer will be found in the fine detail of Hardwicke's 1753 Marriage > Act, and take the form of some kind of sworn witness. >

Looking at the Marriage Bond images on the LDS site, I note that all of them (at least those at which I have looked) have another person and his occupation listed in addition to the person who is to be married. What is the reason for this? Dave

Thankyou very much Jean.

Hi Donna: I wish I could find those pages as there were quite a few names or same names under different categories - births, christenings, marriages, childrens' births etc., deaths, burials. I'll keep looking in my other paper piles - maybe they got misplaced. Carol On 1/4/12, Donna Williams <glenshae1@dodo.com.au> wrote: > Hi Carol, > > thank you for risking life & limb to look in your binders for me :) I shall > keep looking through rootsweb. > > Regards, > Donna. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol J Markillie" <cjmarkillie@gmail.com> > To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:44 AM > Subject: Re: [NFK] Surnames: KITTERINGHAM / KETTERINGHAM > > >> Hello: >> >> I did get myself up the stairs - a bit worrisome as they were homemade >> and then the remodeling contractor tore out the top part of the stairs >> and made a doorway on the side so the bannister is not attached to >> anything except one nail goes somewhere in the vicinity of the post >> about 2" away - too far for that nail. >> >> I looked in my 'posting binders' and did not find any KITTERINGHAM / >> KETTERINGHAM but know that I did quite a lot on those names for a >> woman who looked up all the possible MARKILLIEs/MARKLEYs in the United >> States and posted them to me. >> >> Keep looking through the rootsweb years as it might have been sooner >> than 1999 - t hat was when I started reading parish registers. >> >> Also, in Rootsweb's search box, just put the one surname at a time and >> see if any of those postings come up - they will probably be privately >> submitted items. >> >> Good Hunting - >> Carol >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Pam Yes it says twins. Jean On 8 January 2012 17:41, pamela chlopas <pam.chlopas@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have found an entry on Family Search- England Norfolk Bishop's > Transcripts 1685-1941. It's under Archdedeaconry of Norwich 1834 image 148 > of 444. > It states Samuel & Noah sons of Thomas & Elizabeth Nurse. Under their > first names is a word in brackets, which I think is twins. I wonder if > anyone can clarify this for me. > Many thanks > Pam C > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry I should have added a subject. I have found an entry on Family Search- England Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts 1685-1941. It's under Archdedeaconry of Norwich 1834 image 148 of 444. It states Samuel & Noah sons of Thomas & Elizabeth Nurse. Under their first names is a word in brackets, which I think is twins. I wonder if anyone can clarify this for me. Many thanks Pam C

I have found an entry on Family Search- England Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts 1685-1941. It's under Archdedeaconry of Norwich 1834 image 148 of 444. It states Samuel & Noah sons of Thomas & Elizabeth Nurse. Under their first names is a word in brackets, which I think is twins. I wonder if anyone can clarify this for me. Many thanks Pam C

Jan Don't forget that FreeREG has transcribed over 4 million of the records contained in those images. For example it contains 58 baptisms of the surname Rocket. Kirk On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Jan Rockett <jan.rockett@ntlworld.com>wrote: > Whilst these are very good, they are not all the records from the Parish > records. I have searched for my Rocket(t) surname and have only 8 records > thrown up whereas if you browse through the registers here online, there > are > many more. > Can someone tell me which registers are included in this search as it is > different to the main Family Search search and nowhere near complete to the > actual registers on the site? > > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 4:57 PM > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFK] Norfolk Registers on Family Search > > Hi All > > I don't know if this has already been posted, but today I found that the > Family Search site of images of the Norfolk Registers now has a search > facility that wasn't there last time I looked. > > The site indicates that it was updated on 28 December 1911. > > Clearly only a very small percentage of the images have been transcribed, > but > if you do find anything of interest a single click will open the register > image. > > Regards > > Peter Banham > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 2012/01/06 13:08, Jane Kelly wrote: > One question someone may be able to help with: I have a death certificate dated > 1846 from Loddon but there is no mention of a burial in the Parish record > book that year online. Is this usual? Your certificate only states where the death happened (address) and the Registration District in which it took place. It has nothing to say about where the burial took place, or when. If you look the death up on FreeBMD, and follow the link for Loddon, you will discover that Loddon encompasses some 42 parishes, of which hales is just one. I think you'll need to investigate what's available on the FreeREG site, which, in time, will include your Hales parish and be the means of identifying dates of death. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Whilst these are very good, they are not all the records from the Parish records. I have searched for my Rocket(t) surname and have only 8 records thrown up whereas if you browse through the registers here online, there are many more. Can someone tell me which registers are included in this search as it is different to the main Family Search search and nowhere near complete to the actual registers on the site? Jan -----Original Message----- From: Peter Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 4:57 PM To: norfolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFK] Norfolk Registers on Family Search Hi All I don't know if this has already been posted, but today I found that the Family Search site of images of the Norfolk Registers now has a search facility that wasn't there last time I looked. The site indicates that it was updated on 28 December 1911. Clearly only a very small percentage of the images have been transcribed, but if you do find anything of interest a single click will open the register image. Regards Peter Banham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, BMD registers now working , and sadly no Hart , Eleanor in Norfolk , the closest is Essex . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard" <richardmyhill43@btinternet.com> To: <norfolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: [NFK] A "HART" PROBLEM > Hi all, > I have been trying to find the baptism of ELEANOR HART c.1776 in the North > Walsham area without success,i have her marriage to JAMES CROWE > 15.06.1796, (both single of this parish), and also her burial, age 44. in > North Walsham 24.03.1820, but i cannot find anything else about her in the > parish register. > I realise that being 'single of this parish' is only where the individual > is residing at the time of the marriage and not a guide to their origin,so > using parish locator i identified all the parishes within a 5 mile radius > of North Walsham and worked my way through all the parish registers.Other > than a couple of entries in Smallburgh there were no entries for the name > Hart at all. I then expanded the search area to a 10 mile radius, in all > about 100 parishes,but still no Hart families. > So i changed tactics and recorded all the entries in the North Walsham > register for the name Hart between 1750-1800,and the results were > suprising considering our previous lack of success, a total of 30 entries. > Digging a bit deeper i found that there were 5 families having children > baptised during this period, 3 of which only had 1 child baptised in North > Walsham, which is strange for 250 years ago. Also there were 9 marriages > for members of the Hart family,all shown as 'of this parish' who were not > baptised in North Walsham,and again 3 burials with no baptism found. > I then wondered if all these missing Harts belonged to an independent > church and were just married or buried at North Walsham parish church ,but > a trip to the Norfolk Record Office showed that there were only three > independent churches in the area,Worstead, Bradfield and Aylsham,none of > which had the name Hart in their registers. > I am now stumped for ideas and have no idea where to look next to find > these missing people. > Has any other lister come across a similar problem, > Many thanks, > > Richard Myhill > > richardmyhill43@btinternet.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The death certificate applies to the place of death - they may have been buried elsewhere. Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:norfolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Kelly > Sent: 06 January 2012 11:09 > To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NFK] Norfolk Registers on Family Search > > Thanks for sharing this link. I have been enjoying it > immensely! although my particular interest, the parish of > Hales has not yet been transcribed. One question someone may > be able to help with: I have a death certificate dated > 1846 from Loddon but there is no mention of a burial in the > Parish record book that year online. Is this usual? > > Best wishes, > > Jane > https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http:/ > /www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1416598 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for sharing this link. I have been enjoying it immensely! although my particular interest, the parish of Hales has not yet been transcribed. One question someone may be able to help with: I have a death certificate dated 1846 from Loddon but there is no mention of a burial in the Parish record book that year online. Is this usual? Best wishes, Jane https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1416598

Hi David, To access the files on the disks you will need to buy or borrow a disk drive compatible with the disks. The 3 1/2 " disks should be easy, a USB connection external drive should be readily and cheaply available, the older 5 1/4 " drive may be difficult to locate unless someone has an old working PC with one in it. If you are able to access suitable drives, there are programs available that will read many older program file formats and enable you to copy the text from them even though you will probably lose the formatting. I use Quick View Plus from Avantstar which is a paid version, but there are probably other free or shareware programs available. http://www.avantstar.com/metro/visit I helped a work colleague that had a book written in chapters using Desk Writer Pro on an old portable computer, the 3 1/12 " disk drive was only formatted to the old 720 K type disk, so we had to format a 1.44 M disk to 720 K, copy the files to the disk, then view them using Quick View Plus, and copy the text to Word documents. His case was tricky because you had to use the DOS command DWP.exe to start the program, and the W key no longer worked on the old portable PC. Fortunately it had an external keyboard socket, and we had an old "DIN" type round plug connection keyboard in the cupboard. Good luck. Ray On 6/01/2012 2:59 AM, David Scott wrote: > Hi All, > I hope this is not too off topic, but some of the information is on Norfolk. > > I have taken the opportunity of holidays and bad weather to do some genealogical spring-cleaning. I have discovered a host of old disks, 5.25 inch and 3.5, which are between ten and thirty years old. Several computers on, I find I cannot access these pearls of family history, and wonder whether anyone knows of ways of retrieving them. I think they are probably in Wordstar (God bless it!) > Any suggestions much appreciated, even if, sadly, that is to bin the lot~! > David Scott. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to all of you who responded so helpfully to my query. It just makes me realise how vulnerable our records are when we rely on technology, which always seems to be two steps ahead of us. When our systems give up the ghost, it is always without warning, and, unless we have planned ahead, many must be in the same boat as me! However, I am sure, with all your suggestions, I can cope. David Scott.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1416598 Rosemary On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM, mime <mykinmik@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Peter, > Have been looking thru the https://www.familysearch.org/ site and could > not find and search facility under the Nofolk Registers. Am guessing you > may be approaching them from a different address. May I ask > what address you are using? > Thanks for your help. > Scott B > From: Peter <peter@pwbanham.co.uk> > >To: norfolk@rootsweb.com > >Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:57:27 AM > >Subject: [NFK] Norfolk Registers on Family Search > > > >Hi All > > > >I don't know if this has already been posted, but today I found that the > >Family Search site of images of the Norfolk Registers now has a search > >facility that wasn't there last time I looked. > > > >The site indicates that it was updated on 28 December 1911. > > > >Clearly only a very small percentage of the images have been transcribed, > >but > >if you do find anything of interest a single click will open the register > >image. > > > >Regards > > > >Peter Banham > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >