Hi Nivard, I would have expected that too . An MC is worth shouting about, but nothing on either memorial . The CWGC shows Mrs Vera Frost at 12 Eden Vale , Sunderland but like you I couldn`t find a marriage for them .......and that explains the second address on the medal card. but the first address was Wisbech Road, Norfolk, . And I think the Frosts of Downham West would certainly be considered as on the Wisbech Road. He is an interesting chap and I would like to claim him ........not for nothing were serving soldiers commissioned, and not for nothing were soldiers awarded the MC .....now to find the citation . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] JOHN W FROST > Hi Elizabeth > > I could not find a Vera FROST or marriage to one, different names at > that address in 1911 > > This man has a Military Cross and I would have expected that to be > mentioned on a memorial, is it? > > UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about John William Frost > Name: John William Frost > Death Date: 23 Mar 1919 > Rank: Lieutenant > Regiment: Northamptonshire Regiment > Battalion: 2nd Battalion > Decoration: MC > Type of Casualty: Died > > From the CWGC > > FROST, JOHN WILLIAM > Rank: Lieutenant > Date of Death: 23/03/1919 > Age: 29 > Regiment/Service: Northamptonshire Regiment 2nd Bn. > Awards: M C > Grave Reference I1. 224. > Cemetery OXFORD (BOTLEY) CEMETERY > Additional Information: > Husband of Vera Frost, of 12, Eden Vale, Sunderland. > > Supplement to the London Gazette 17th January 1919 (p)873 > > North'n R - 2nd Lt. J.W. Frost, M.C., to be Lt. 8th Oct. 1918. > Lt. J.W. Frost, M.C., is placed on the h.p. list on account of ill > health caused by wounds. 18th Jan 1919. > > (h.p. = Half Pay) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/03/2014 14:45, elizabeth howard wrote: >> Hi , another puzzle .....going on the basis that most of these >> young men were born between 1885 and 1895 I tried the 1891 and 1901 >> census for John Frost, and came up with a family of John and Eliza >> with children living in Bridge St , Downham. By 1911 the family are >> in Downham west but no sign of John ......however the Medal Cards >> show a John William originally Corp 19th Hussars , who was later >> commissioned into the Northants Regt .....he was commissioned in >> April 1917 . No happy ending here, the Matron of Templeton House , >> Roehampton , forwards the claim of 2nd Lt JW Frost to 1914 star, in >> Dec 1917 , and Mrs J W applies for medals due to her LATE son ,. he >> died in March 1919 . And the address given for Mrs J W Frost is 2/ >> Wisbech Road, Norfolk. but alongside that is 12 Eden Vale , >> Sunderland. in a later hand ...... What does the list make of this >> man ? is he the missing John Frost on our memorial ? His mother >> was Eliza Frost but her husband had been a John Frost so would she >> call herself Mrs J W as widow ? is that even relevant ? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes,thank you,Peter,both of those Jameses are already in my tree. Julie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Hyde Sent: Sunday, 2 March 2014 5:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NFK] Armiger I assume you have rejected the two on FreeReg... Hockwold, bap 13 Jun 1819, and Gt Walsingham, bap 15 Jun 1823 Both of the above places seem to be hotbeds of Armiger activity Cheers Peter Millicent, SA -----Original Message----- From: Julie Armiger Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 5:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NFK] Armiger Hi Listerines, I've been trying to find the parents of James Armiger b c1824 Norwich (according to 1851 UK census) who married Charlotte Sarah Jones b c1825 Marylebone,in 1847 Marylebone. James died 1898 Kingston and Charlotte Sarah died 1876 St G Han Sq. I have James Armiger b c1823 Burnham, and married Martha Stringer in 1855 and then Jane Allen in 1858 in my tree,so I know it's not him or could he have done a runner back to Norfolk and left Charlotte? He seems fairly old to marry for the 1st time at 32 back in those days! Any help that you wonderful people can furnish will be,as always,greatly appreciated. Thank you, Yours sincerely, Julie Armiger in Adelaide,Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7138 - Release Date: 03/01/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7138 - Release Date: 03/01/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth, I already have that James in my tree,he's the 2nd one that I put in my original message and isn't the James born c1824 Norwich that I'm trying to find,but thank you anyway. Julie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard Sent: Sunday, 2 March 2014 10:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NFK] Armiger Hi, there is a family tree on Ancestry which shows this James as being the son of William and Anne Armiger of Gt Walsingham .......bapt freereg in Gt Walsingham in 1823. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Armiger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 6:53 AM Subject: [NFK] Armiger > Hi Listerines, > > > > I've been trying to find the parents of James Armiger b c1824 Norwich > (according to 1851 UK census) who married Charlotte Sarah Jones b c1825 > Marylebone,in 1847 Marylebone. > > James died 1898 Kingston and Charlotte Sarah died 1876 St G Han Sq. > > > > I have James Armiger b c1823 Burnham, and married Martha Stringer in 1855 > and then Jane Allen in 1858 in my tree,so I know it's not him or could he > have done a runner back to Norfolk and left Charlotte? He seems fairly old > to marry for the 1st time at 32 back in those days! > > > > Any help that you wonderful people can furnish will be,as always,greatly > appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Julie Armiger in Adelaide,Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth I could not find a Vera FROST or marriage to one, different names at that address in 1911 This man has a Military Cross and I would have expected that to be mentioned on a memorial, is it? UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about John William Frost Name: John William Frost Death Date: 23 Mar 1919 Rank: Lieutenant Regiment: Northamptonshire Regiment Battalion: 2nd Battalion Decoration: MC Type of Casualty: Died From the CWGC FROST, JOHN WILLIAM Rank: Lieutenant Date of Death: 23/03/1919 Age: 29 Regiment/Service: Northamptonshire Regiment 2nd Bn. Awards: M C Grave Reference I1. 224. Cemetery OXFORD (BOTLEY) CEMETERY Additional Information: Husband of Vera Frost, of 12, Eden Vale, Sunderland. Supplement to the London Gazette 17th January 1919 (p)873 North'n R - 2nd Lt. J.W. Frost, M.C., to be Lt. 8th Oct. 1918. Lt. J.W. Frost, M.C., is placed on the h.p. list on account of ill health caused by wounds. 18th Jan 1919. (h.p. = Half Pay) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/03/2014 14:45, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi , another puzzle .....going on the basis that most of these > young men were born between 1885 and 1895 I tried the 1891 and 1901 > census for John Frost, and came up with a family of John and Eliza > with children living in Bridge St , Downham. By 1911 the family are > in Downham west but no sign of John ......however the Medal Cards > show a John William originally Corp 19th Hussars , who was later > commissioned into the Northants Regt .....he was commissioned in > April 1917 . No happy ending here, the Matron of Templeton House , > Roehampton , forwards the claim of 2nd Lt JW Frost to 1914 star, in > Dec 1917 , and Mrs J W applies for medals due to her LATE son ,. he > died in March 1919 . And the address given for Mrs J W Frost is 2/ > Wisbech Road, Norfolk. but alongside that is 12 Eden Vale , > Sunderland. in a later hand ...... What does the list make of this > man ? is he the missing John Frost on our memorial ? His mother > was Eliza Frost but her husband had been a John Frost so would she > call herself Mrs J W as widow ? is that even relevant ?

I assume you have rejected the two on FreeReg... Hockwold, bap 13 Jun 1819, and Gt Walsingham, bap 15 Jun 1823 Both of the above places seem to be hotbeds of Armiger activity Cheers Peter Millicent, SA -----Original Message----- From: Julie Armiger Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 5:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NFK] Armiger Hi Listerines, I've been trying to find the parents of James Armiger b c1824 Norwich (according to 1851 UK census) who married Charlotte Sarah Jones b c1825 Marylebone,in 1847 Marylebone. James died 1898 Kingston and Charlotte Sarah died 1876 St G Han Sq. I have James Armiger b c1823 Burnham, and married Martha Stringer in 1855 and then Jane Allen in 1858 in my tree,so I know it's not him or could he have done a runner back to Norfolk and left Charlotte? He seems fairly old to marry for the 1st time at 32 back in those days! Any help that you wonderful people can furnish will be,as always,greatly appreciated. Thank you, Yours sincerely, Julie Armiger in Adelaide,Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7138 - Release Date: 03/01/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7138 - Release Date: 03/01/14

Hi all, Re my last email about James Armiger born c1824 Norwich. No he didn't leave Charlotte to go back to Norfolk,he is shown still around London in future censuses. Julie Armiger

Hi Listerines, I've been trying to find the parents of James Armiger b c1824 Norwich (according to 1851 UK census) who married Charlotte Sarah Jones b c1825 Marylebone,in 1847 Marylebone. James died 1898 Kingston and Charlotte Sarah died 1876 St G Han Sq. I have James Armiger b c1823 Burnham, and married Martha Stringer in 1855 and then Jane Allen in 1858 in my tree,so I know it's not him or could he have done a runner back to Norfolk and left Charlotte? He seems fairly old to marry for the 1st time at 32 back in those days! Any help that you wonderful people can furnish will be,as always,greatly appreciated. Thank you, Yours sincerely, Julie Armiger in Adelaide,Australia

Hi , another puzzle .....going on the basis that most of these young men were born between 1885 and 1895 I tried the 1891 and 1901 census for John Frost, and came up with a family of John and Eliza with children living in Bridge St , Downham. By 1911 the family are in Downham west but no sign of John ......however the Medal Cards show a John William originally Corp 19th Hussars , who was later commissioned into the Northants Regt .....he was commissioned in April 1917 . No happy ending here, the Matron of Templeton House , Roehampton , forwards the claim of 2nd Lt JW Frost to 1914 star, in Dec 1917 , and Mrs J W applies for medals due to her LATE son ,. he died in March 1919 . And the address given for Mrs J W Frost is 2/ Wisbech Road, Norfolk. but alongside that is 12 Eden Vale , Sunderland. in a later hand ...... What does the list make of this man ? is he the missing John Frost on our memorial ? His mother was Eliza Frost but her husband had been a John Frost so would she call herself Mrs J W as widow ? is that even relevant ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///

Thanks everyone. I like to ask the list in case I have missed any records on line Karen On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:33 PM, elizabeth howard <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, in the end it was NROCat which listed the parish > records held , NFHS hasn`t the early ones , and genuki/norfolk similarly . > > > << Back 5 < Previous Page 1 of 1 Next > Forward 5 >> Last | > Title Date CatalogueRef > Details Parish Records of Wormegay (Diocese of Ely) 1561-1977 PD 512 > Details Registers 1561-1977 > Details Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1561-1727. 1561-1866 PD 512/1 > Details Baptisms, 1730-1812; Marriages, 1730-1761; and Burials, > 1730-1812. 1730-1911 PD 512/2 > Details Baptisms 1813-1876 PD 512/3 > Details Marriages, 1755-1812; Banns, 1755-1848. 1755-1848 PD 512/4 > Details Marriages 1815-1838 PD 512/5 > Details Marriages 1840 PD 512/6 > Details Banns 1848-1977 PD 512/7 > Details Registration Papers 1833-1854 > Details Note of the banns of Henery Readen and Sarah Parnal 1833 PD > 512/8 > Details Marriage licence of John Sewell and Elizabeth Holman 1854 PD > 512/9 > > > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Hodges" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 5:20 AM > Subject: [NFK] Wormegay parish > > >>I don't have access to early Wormegay parish records. I am interested >> in finding out please if James and Mary Bird married 1702 in Wormegay >> had a daughter Mary and or son James. >> >> Karen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, there is a family tree on Ancestry which shows this James as being the son of William and Anne Armiger of Gt Walsingham .......bapt freereg in Gt Walsingham in 1823. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Armiger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 6:53 AM Subject: [NFK] Armiger > Hi Listerines, > > > > I've been trying to find the parents of James Armiger b c1824 Norwich > (according to 1851 UK census) who married Charlotte Sarah Jones b c1825 > Marylebone,in 1847 Marylebone. > > James died 1898 Kingston and Charlotte Sarah died 1876 St G Han Sq. > > > > I have James Armiger b c1823 Burnham, and married Martha Stringer in 1855 > and then Jane Allen in 1858 in my tree,so I know it's not him or could he > have done a runner back to Norfolk and left Charlotte? He seems fairly old > to marry for the 1st time at 32 back in those days! > > > > Any help that you wonderful people can furnish will be,as always,greatly > appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Julie Armiger in Adelaide,Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't have access to early Wormegay parish records. I am interested in finding out please if James and Mary Bird married 1702 in Wormegay had a daughter Mary and or son James. Karen

Thanks Keith and Pam. I thought there might be some parishes that recorded this extra information before 1754. Karen On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Keith Drage <[email protected]> wrote: > Strangely the Catalogue at the Norfolk Record Office does not list a > separate marriage register from 1754 until 1816, but includes the > marriages for this period still in the same book as the baptisms (in > contravention to Hardwicke's act. > > It may be therefore that the clerk at Bradfield ignored the act and > carried on making the entries in the old style (without witnesses). > > Does anyone have access to confirm this? > > Keith Drage > Swindon UK > > On 01/03/2014 02:12, Keith Drage wrote: >> Space was included for witness names in the printed registers produced >> to support Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753, introduced 25 March 1754. >> Among other things, the act required the signing of the marriage entry >> by the minister, the couple, and two witnesses. >> >> Keith Drage >> Swindon UK >> >> On 01/03/2014 01:45, Karen Hodges wrote: >>> Does anyone know when witness names to marriages were first recorded >>> in parish records in Norfolk? >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Mike Fry <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On 01 Mar 2014 00:10, Dennis Galley wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would like to obtain a copy of a marriage record from the Parish Registers >>>>> for Bradfield, Norfolk. John GALLEY and Elizabeth BULLAMORE (BULLEMURE) were >>>>> married on March 22, 1775. I am particularly interested in knowing whether >>>>> or not either parents were witnesses. >>>> According to the AT version, there were no witnesses. See www.freereg.org.uk >>>> <http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=470089> >>>> >>>> Looks like the PR version (which would have witnesses) isn't available on >>>> FamilySearch. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Mike Fry >>>> Johannesburg >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter I didn't say parents are never recorded, just that normally they are not On occasion you get a father, even rarer a mother if one or other (usually the bride) were a minor but even then it depended upon the clerk recording the relationship, sometimes the witnesses have the same names as the parents but you can't say with any certainly that they were the parents, in my experience siblings, uncle/aunt or cousins are more likely The parent(s) didn't need to be recorded to give permission, or in fact be there in person Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/03/2014 07:59, Peter J Richardson wrote: > Hello Dennis and Nivard, > > I have seen parents as witnesses - in quite a lot of cases of this it is > where one or both of the parties are under-age and the parents have had to > give their consent. > > The LDS images for Norfolk are online, but I do not see Bradfield listed, so > that makes me wonder whether the LDS have the original or a > transcription/member submission. That suggests contacting Norfolk Record > Office as being your best option for a copy. > > Regards > Peter

Does anyone know when witness names to marriages were first recorded in parish records in Norfolk? Karen On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Mike Fry <[email protected]> wrote: > On 01 Mar 2014 00:10, Dennis Galley wrote: > >> I would like to obtain a copy of a marriage record from the Parish Registers >> for Bradfield, Norfolk. John GALLEY and Elizabeth BULLAMORE (BULLEMURE) were >> married on March 22, 1775. I am particularly interested in knowing whether >> or not either parents were witnesses. > > According to the AT version, there were no witnesses. See www.freereg.org.uk > <http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=470089> > > Looks like the PR version (which would have witnesses) isn't available on > FamilySearch. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, in the end it was NROCat which listed the parish records held , NFHS hasn`t the early ones , and genuki/norfolk similarly . << Back 5 < Previous Page 1 of 1 Next > Forward 5 >> Last | Title Date CatalogueRef Details Parish Records of Wormegay (Diocese of Ely) 1561-1977 PD 512 Details Registers 1561-1977 Details Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1561-1727. 1561-1866 PD 512/1 Details Baptisms, 1730-1812; Marriages, 1730-1761; and Burials, 1730-1812. 1730-1911 PD 512/2 Details Baptisms 1813-1876 PD 512/3 Details Marriages, 1755-1812; Banns, 1755-1848. 1755-1848 PD 512/4 Details Marriages 1815-1838 PD 512/5 Details Marriages 1840 PD 512/6 Details Banns 1848-1977 PD 512/7 Details Registration Papers 1833-1854 Details Note of the banns of Henery Readen and Sarah Parnal 1833 PD 512/8 Details Marriage licence of John Sewell and Elizabeth Holman 1854 PD 512/9 life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hodges" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 5:20 AM Subject: [NFK] Wormegay parish >I don't have access to early Wormegay parish records. I am interested > in finding out please if James and Mary Bird married 1702 in Wormegay > had a daughter Mary and or son James. > > Karen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone :-) Been there, done that, misplaced the same T shirt <bg> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/03/2014 11:15, [email protected] wrote: > Thank you Margaret, Pam, Rosemary and Nivard for your various > suggestions and it is obvious that I have incorrectly kept my notes > so, hopefully, all will be satisfactorily sorted; ED.

Apologies to the List that my reply meant for Karen ended up on the list. I didn't notice that this time her message was to the list and not to me direct as previously. Sandie Sent from my iPad > On 1 Mar 2014, at 09:21, Mike Fry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 01 Mar 2014 07:20, Karen Hodges wrote: >> >> I don't have access to early Wormegay parish records. I am interested >> in finding out please if James and Mary Bird married 1702 in Wormegay >> had a daughter Mary and or son James. > > Norfolk is very well-served on FreeREG - www.freereg.org.uk - in fact, in terms > of numbers of records transcribed, it is the best of all the counties :-) > > But no BIRD baptisms in Wormegay have been transcribed :-( > > It is also very well represented with images of the registers on FamilySearch, > but alas, there doesn't appear to be any for Wormegay :-( > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nivard, I don`t know where you come by all these wonderful websites.......and this is spot on to what I need .........amazing. and of course the hoover stands idle because the hooverist is glued to the doings of the 7th Bttn Norfolk regt.........there should be a health warning with genealogical research !!!!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [NFK] CYRIL WALKER > Hi Elizabeth > > This may be a starter > > <http://www.wartimememoriesproject.com/greatwar/allied/norfolkregiment7-gw.php> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 28/02/2014 16:13, elizabeth howard wrote: >> Hi , and thanks for this and yes everyone was most >> helpful so that we can confirm once and for all that Cyril Walker was >> indeed >> the son of Arthur and Emma and born 1895 and KIA in Oct 1915 . He was >> as >> Nivard has said, 7th Bttn Norfolk Regt and I am now moving forward toward >> the end of the back story of each of these men, and will then find their >> dates of enlistment if poss, and their place of death more specific than >> France and Flanders. I`ll try to find the war diaries to see where the >> 7th >> Bttn were in Oct 1915.......it will give us a clearer idea of their >> lives.... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 01 Mar 2014 07:20, Karen Hodges wrote: > I don't have access to early Wormegay parish records. I am interested > in finding out please if James and Mary Bird married 1702 in Wormegay > had a daughter Mary and or son James. Norfolk is very well-served on FreeREG - www.freereg.org.uk - in fact, in terms of numbers of records transcribed, it is the best of all the counties :-) But no BIRD baptisms in Wormegay have been transcribed :-( It is also very well represented with images of the registers on FamilySearch, but alas, there doesn't appear to be any for Wormegay :-( -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Thank you Margaret, Pam, Rosemary and Nivard for your various suggestions and it is obvious that I have incorrectly kept my notes so, hopefully, all will be satisfactorily sorted; ED.