Betty. Thank you so much. I can't remember now if I mentioned the Kidders to you in Ca.; Capt. Nathaniel Kidder for one. Off hand I don't think I saw any Black Kidder's mentioned. Isn't there a site re abolitionists and New Bedford? When I say abolitionists I know that Frederick Douglas gave his famous autobiographical speech in New Bedford MA. His speech followed that of Rev. Jeremiah Burke Sanderson. Although, he was not yet as articulate as he became later, he was really extremely well received. There were a lot of Black mariners too, one could look into the mariner lists.    Bests, marilyn ________________________________ From: Ms Betty Fredericks <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:42 PM Subject: [NORCAL] Web Sites for Discussing Slaves Hello,   Out of curiosity, I just went to see if there are specific Lists for discussing slaves and slave-owners.   As I suspected, there are at least 3:   http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/listsearch   Oh, I changed the search-term from .slave.  to .slaves.  and there are several more, including 2 for specific states, and one for Canada, and one for the Underground Railroad:   http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/listsearch   And, I just wanted to remind researchers that .slaves. were brought to the "New World"  back before 1600 to the "Caribbean."    And they were even in New England in 1700's.      I have the "History of Billerica, MA,"  and I'll see if I can find a reference to the town having some.       And, just an FYI, in reference to the 1500's/1600's,  I believe the entire .North America.  including the Caribbean,  was considered the "New World."   http://old.antislavery.org/breakingthesilence/main/PickandMix/03_TSTTimeline.doc   http://www.dur.ac.uk/4schools/Slavery2/Timeline.htm   (I find  "timelines" to be helpful when learning about a place in the world, or a piece of history.)   Betty               (near Lowell, MA)   (on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.;   now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards)   (surname Lists include GAVIN and CORKILL) ----------------------------------------- NORCAL ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Enter NORCAL.  Browse by month. Or click the "Search all archives" link to search by keyword. ----------------------------------------- To post a message to the NORCAL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message